Massages

Box,

Thanks for the kind words. I'm really glad I found the WSG.

I had another great (and unusual) AMP experience this past weekend. Unlike my normal practice of phoning ahead, I went to an AMP to see a girl I hadn't seen for months. I've had 3 previous sessions with her before. Both girls who were working there knew me and after buzzing the doorbell, I could hear them talking in Korean, probably debating which girl would take me. They were just in the process of opening.

The girl I really liked greeted me at the door and told me that my usual provider is still on vacation. I told her I know that, but I wanted to see her. She seemed really happy to hear that. Received a warm welcome like she was greeting a dear friend she hadn't seen in a while and after the TS, she sent me to the sauna to dry off a bit.

At this AMP, the girls usually go to their own private shower to prepare for customers, but this time she showered in the TS room and left the curtain open so I could watch her through the window in the sauna door. Feeling like a voyeur and really getting turned on, I opened the door and waved at her.

When she finished and dried off, she came and got me from the sauna, took me back to the massage room, and skipped the massage and went right into the main event. Like most AMP girls I know, she didn't offer DFK, but she did offer BBBJ, 69, kissing and sucking her nice, large (natural) rack, and I climbed aboard for mish.

She doesn't seem to like other positions but she really gets into mish and if she's acting, it's almost impossible to tell. Since I went on a weekend morning, there were no other customers there so there was no rush, just taking my time enjoying the mish to a very happy ending. Would have been a full GFE with more positions, but she has a really great attitude.

Afterwards, she cleaned me up and gave me a great massage and I mentioned a few trivial details about her that I remembered that she had told me, like her real Korean first name and where she lived in our area. She really seemed happy that I'd remember so much about her.

After helping me get dressed, here's the unusual part. Due to a recent LE crackdown in our area, the girls have always asked me to dispose of my used cover off-premises. This time, she put it in the garbage and as I was leaving, she walked out with me to the parking lot. After tossing the trash bag in the dumpster, she came back and gently nibbled on my ear in the parking lot before I left. A truly remarkable end to a great visit.

Fluffy, when you get to 80 and you still want to go to AMPs you definitely need to come back to this forum and share your secret!!! lol. I agree with you though, those girls could care less if you are married or not. In fact, I think they prefer to deal with married men, because they know that married men will not want to attract any attention to themselves. They are usually more quiet and reserved and won't usually cause any problems for the girls.

And, if you are married, the girls realize that you are there for a reason, you aren't getting enough at home. So, they figure for a minimal amount of effort they can get you to come back to them time and time again. They get rich off of us old married guys!!!

Spy Guy, I gotta come up there and visit you. I would love to visit the AMPs in your area and get that good a service!!! Damn, you are a lucky man. Although, I would make the girl get into doggie style, that is the box-man's preferred method of ejaculation!

There is nothing like holding a slim-little asian ass while you fuck the shit out of them!!!!

need help with the amp scene.

hey all, i am still new to this whole amp scene, i've been several times only to leave wishing that i spent my money at on a real therapist. i have also tried several different locations.

are there any special steps i need to take when i get there?

do i need to pay more up front?

do i need to shower first if they ask?

should i just grab something during the session?

etc?

any tips will be greatly appreciated.

pm if you like.

CBR Boy,

First of all, calm down! I think you might be pressing too hard. By that I mean you may be too nervous or nervous acting when you first go in. They may think you are a cop if you act too nervous or if you act as if you have never been there before.

That, I think, is the key. You have to act as if you have been there before, even if you haven't been. You have to remain calm, cool and collected.

They usually want eveyone to take a table shower (TS) prior to receiving any services. They do this for a couple of reasons. First, to make sure that you are clean. Hygiene is very important to these girls. They don't want to work on anyone that stinks. Second, they want to check out your body for any signs of STDs or other unpleasant things. So, when they offer you a shower, you must take it. Otherwise, you risk not getting the service that you desire.

Also, I find that the friendlier you are to them the friendlier they are to you. So, be nice. Be playful. If they rub something nice, moan a little tell them you like that. They want you to enjoy yourself, so don't be afraid to show that you are enjoying yourself. If you just so happen to rub her ass or other part of her body, it does tend to show them that you are looking for more. Now, don't go up her skirt right away. Just rub her ass through her clothes. And, do it in a soft, gentle way.

Then when it is time to turn over she'll start rubbing your cock and balls trying to get them to full attention. (If they aren't there already.) At this point, they may ask if you are interested in more, or they may not. That will depend on how comfortable they are with you. Get up, dip into your pants pocket, pull out $100 and see where that gets you. She will take it. You probably can get FS for that, but she may ask for more. It is okay to bargain, but again, be nice. If you are a dick to her, don't expect her to absolutely rock your world when she decides to give you FS.

I hope this helped. If you didn't get anything else out of these tips, get this one important thing. Always take the TS when it is offered. If you don't, nothing else will be offered later.

CBR Boy,

What Boxcc offers is good advice but there are regional differences. Table showers are one thing. They seem common on the east coast but rare in So. Calif. Between the two areas that I frequent, there are probably over thirty AMPs and I've have only heard mention of one that has a TS. The others are just DIY shower stalls. It is still recommended that you take the shower for two reasons. One, they prefer you to be fresh and clean but also they may be less likely to suspect you of being LE if you are willing to leave your belongings in the massage room. The worst thing about a DIY shower is that you may have to ask where it is. It makes it harder to convince them that you've been there before. I suppose you could ask like this, "I didn't have a shower last time, could you please show me where it is?"

Another regional difference is how requests for services and money is handled. Where I'm at, you rarely even have to discuss the tip in advance. You can subtly imply what you are after by brushing your hand against her leg and then massaging her calf. As long as there are no negative reactions, just slowly move your hand up her leg. At some point she may ask what you want or you might just naturally progress all the way to FS with no discussion. Around here the standard tip is about $40 - $60. Sometimes a girl gets agressive about price or money up front. I will not put up with it anymore. One time I told the girl she was wasting my time and to go get the mamasan. The girl came back a couple of minutes later with a much more agreeable attitude. I gave her my standard tip which was probably $40 below what she had at first demanded and she smiled, took it and repeated here name a couple of times so I would be sure to remember to ask for her. I've also just put on my clothes and left before. The mamasan met me in the hall and gave me my money back. Now I wouldn't recommend trying this the first time in a place or until you have a little more experience under your belt but remember that the customer is king.

In some other regions, you may not talk about money directly but you are expected to have you're tip money sitting out where the girl can see it. Then in other areas it is strictly cash in advance or at the very least, you may have to agree to an amount. Remember that before the fact, the girl has all the bargaining power. These are usually the places where the tips are $100 - $200. After the fact, you have the power. Don't abuse it but don't let yourself get ripped off.

One tip that applies anywhere is to learn in advance the names of girls that work or that have worked in the past year or two at the place you are going. You can say that you saw so-and-so a few of months ago or you can request a specific girl by name. You can also use it as a bargaining chip, "So-and-so only charged me $xx" or "So-and-so would do that with me." Don't get too outlandish though, these girls do talk to each other. Also, when you are in the room, get naked and stay that way. Don't cover yourself with a towel and object if the girl tries to cover you. Say that you are "hot" or something. That reminds me of a time a girl covered me with a towel and I threw across the room a couple of times. She finally made it clear that it was only while she left to get a condom.

Do your research here on WSG. Read all the past posts from your region. Become familiar with the places, girls, local customs and rates. There are some places that just offer massage with no extras are on the plate. So make sure you go to the right places. Sometimes you have have to go in cold though and you need to be a little more careful. Be confident, comfortable and friendly. You don't have to talk much, they probably wouldn't understand you anyway. Treat the girls well. I have had almost 100 AMP visits and I have only been turned down once for FS. I had to settle for a BJ/HJ. Good luck and have fun.

Pussy Luvr

Ok experienced AMP patrons, I've got another question for you. As a semi-regular AMP person myself, I'm very comfortable getting what I want, I have a few favorite girls I see, and feel comfortable in one or two AMPs that I go to most often.

However, I've got a hankering to try something a little different. I'm interested in a two-girl massage with extras. Has anybody else tried that in an AMP before? I don't want to offend anybody or upset that apple cart in my normal haunts, but I think it could be a very fun experience.

What do you think?

Dinger

Pussy Luvr, you make a good point about regional differences. I have been to AMPs mainly on the East Coast, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North and South Carolina and even one in Florida.

To me, they were all set up pretty much the same. They have the little entry lobby to pre-screen you even before they talk to you, then you pay the house fee up front. I have never negotiated price up front. It has been my experience that the girls want to size you up first to make sure that you are not a cop before they will discuss anything with you. I have found that, in most cases, money was never discussed openly until after I handed her my tip. In a lot of cases, they don't even ask if you want anything 'extra' because that could be contrued as an offer of prostitution.

Now, as far as a DIY shower versus a Table Shower: I have only been to places where they give you the shower as part of the massage. Like I said in an earlier post, they are making sure that you are clean and disease free, or at least you appear that way. I never thought about what you suggested about wanting to see if you are willing to leave your belongings in the massage room while you are off to get a shower. But, I have to agree with you on that assessment.

After that is all said and done, you get to the point where you are going to tip her for 'extra' services. Personally, I don't like to discuss money out in the open. I would rather just get up, get the tip and hand it to her. I don't like leaving it lying around. I want to hand it directly to her. Doing it this way does 2 things: 1. It say very plainly to the girl that you want more than just a massages, and 2. It leaves you an out if you have to take it. What I mean is, if you hand her the cash, she will know what it is for, and usually she will provide it. Notice, there was absolutely no conversation about sex whatsoever, so you were not giving her money for sex. If it is a sting, and you hand her money without ever talking about sex, you can say that you were just giving the girl a tip for the 'great' massage you just received. You would at least have a leg to stand on if you got a lawyer to fight it out in court.

Anyway, if you hand the girl the tip and it is acceptable, she will go about her business. If the tip is not acceptable, then she will argue with you a little bit, but I have only had that happen twice. In both cases, it was younger providers at an AMP in Greenville and they thought that their shit was worth a premium. It was good, but not worth the extra money that they were asking for. I did what you talked about in your post, I asked for the mamasan and told her that I wanted a different girl, the mamasan said something in Korean to the girl and she immediately obeyed and took care of business. From then on, when I went back, I would ask for a different girl. The mamasan always remembered me from then on too, and she would say something to the high priced girl every time she was there too! It was great.

Anyway, CBR, I hoped that this helped. I would be interested to hear what Spy Guy had to say about this too.

Boxcc,

Sorry, I guess that I wasn't clear on the "up front" part. The first part is about like you say. They pre-screen you at the lobby before you get past the locked inner door, you pay for a message session only, etc. You don't talk about extras. What I meant by "up front" was that once you are alone with the girl and perhaps had gone through a few of the preliminaries. Then she would ask for however much she wanted before any action would take place. At the very least she would want a verbal agreement from you on the amount.

What I mean by "after the fact" is when there is never _any_ discussion about money, either expessed or implied by either party before you receive your "services." Then, as you are on the way out of the room, you politely tip her for the "nice massage." On rare occasions, she might complain but usually she just smiles and thanks you. With a new girl, I generally watch her face out of the corner of my eye as I slowly pull one twenty at a time out of my wallet. You can usually see by the change in their expression when they are at least satisfied, if not exactly happy. Around here, that usually seems to come at the third twenty. When a girl has been especially good, I have sometimes even asked her, "Is that all right?" Surprisingly, the ones that I have asked have never requested more. Now I do tend to treat the girls very well and show them respect, so that may help.

It doesn't always go smoothly though. One time I convinced an "up front" type girl to wait, that I would take care of her as well as she took care of me later. She had been insisting on $100. She said that wass what everybody paid her that. Right, maybe if they were drunk, blind and with an IQ somewhere below Forrest Gump. She looked much better before she took her clothes off. At first she wouldn't do DATY, then she changed her mind. Then I think she offered only one position. After it was over, I very generously gave her my typical $60 tip. She was furious. She even said that I should pay her extra because I made _her_ cum during DATY. Well excuse me but I condsider that a bonus for her. Then she kept going on and on for close to five minutes about how she was only doing this to feed her four kids and how I could afford it, etc. Was I ever sorry that I'd given her that much! I thought I was never going to escape this b*tch. The mamasan usually gives me an "exit interview." Unfortunately, she wasn't around when I left. I had a few choice words about this girl for her. It was after her that I decided no more "up front" girls without at least sending them back to the mamasan for a recalibration.

The point that people make about leaving money visible is that it sends a message to the girl that there may be more in it for her. She is not supposed to just take it without your permission. If she asks about it or tries to take, say that you only have it out in case you want to leave a tip later. If she then offers services to you, you might let her go ahead and take it. I don't like this approach either. I disagree that either this or giving her giving her a tip in advance, as you suggest, gives much of an "out." I try to avoid anything to do with money unless she explicitly offers services and even then I will try to avoid it.

From a legal standpoint, it would seem to me that you have the stongest argument if you just go in and the two of you spontaneously decide to have sex, with no discussion of "services" or money changing hands. You're just a man and woman acting on a mutual attraction for one another. If you happen to tip her for that "nice massage" as you leave, that has nothing to do with the sex. The girls and the mamasan are safer that way too. Unfortunately, that doesn't work everywhere. Mainly because the girls get a little too greedy.

Pussy Luvr

Dinger,

I've never tried it myself but I have heard of several instances. There is even one place around here with a name like "Fours Hands Massage" or something. You are still going to have to tip both girls seperately. No quantity discount. Don't expect any girl-on-girl action. Basically, you'll probably just get to do them one then the other, with a a change in raincoats and possibly a washdown. I don't know if this is what you were wanting to hear but I've heard this several times.

Pussy Luver

Dinger, I agree with Pussy Luvr, I think you can find that, you will just have to pay for two instead of one. And, I also agree that you probably would have to change raincoats.

I don't know about you, but when I'm in the middle of strokin' that thing, I definitely don't want to have to stop to re-wrap it!

I know that there is a place here in South Carolina that you can get the girls to do a duet then you can take your pick, but it isn't an AMP.

Good advice in these posts. I've been frequenting MPs (A and a few non-A) for several years. They're the coolest establishments around IMO. Where else can you go, get treated like an emperor for an hour or so, and then have a great release at the end.

I've lived in several states and have been to MPs in a dozen states or so. I started off naive like a couple of earlier posters, and the first couple of times didn't know what to expect or how to act. I had a bad experience in one in Biloxi, Mississippi where the girl managed to part me from $300 or so and I only got a HJ. Most of the time, I have had a very good time. I usually really like the massage in addition to what follows. The only place I received FS is New Orleans, though I have heard they had a major crackdown and all the good establishments there (on Chef Hwy) are history. I usually am happy with a BJ or HJ, done properly, at the end. One of my only complaints with AMPs in general is that some of the masseuses grip way too hard.

To me, the table shower, the actual massage and the finish are all critical parts of the MP experience. The ultimate MP experience for me would be as follows: It would start off with a table shower with special attention to the butt and boys. After she dried me off, a relaxing massage, on the soft side, would follow. Gradually, she would tease the boys and butt. Just before the flip, extra attention would be paid to these areas. Then, after the flip she'd continue the massage, teasing the chest and around John Thomas. She'd finish up with either a BJ or HJ. She's clean me at the end. Insert her getting naked and me playing with her somewhere in there, and possibly a prostate massage.

I think my favorite AMP of all time would have to be in Pascagoula, Mississippi of all places. The ladies there knew how to please a guy. The "erotic massage" focused both on the "erotic" and the "massage". It also was reasonably priced.

I now live in Las Vegas and have been disappointed overall with the AMPs here, though many have opened up since I moved here. At the first one I went to here, the lady had bad body odor. It took several visits to various ones to find one that offered a table shower. One I've been to sometimes offers extras and sometimes doesn't. Most of the masseuses at Las Vegas AMPs dress down. I have found a couple of good newer ones, though. There is also a non-Asian MP which has very attractive girls. It's kind of expensive, but offers FS. The thrill is in the hunt, I guess.

Long live MPs!

Wow, has everyone forgot this board? There was good information here but nothing posted in a couple months. I'll add my two cents, maybe that will get things going again.

I have tried several AMP's in Las Vegas. Most of the AMP's on Sahara are mediocare and I have never been successful negotiating FS. My favorite, if you can call it that, is Hon Yung. I believe that is the name. It's in a small strip mall layed out in a semi-circle. It's very close to a Dodge dealership.

Jade Garden on Cheyenne is fairly new and in the evening some very attractive asian ladies begin working. Don't bother with daytime. Has anyone had any success at FS with AMP's in Las Vegas? I have read something about VIP, but I don't know exactly where that's located.
Maybe this will get things going.

Scrodie reports:

"The only place I received FS is New Orleans, though I have heard they had a major crackdown and all the good establishments there (on Chef Hwy) are history."

There are three places currently twitching on CM. I have gotten FS at the first (just past the bowling alley), have looked into the one in the strip mall and the one way out past the interstate bypass to Chalmette. They didn't tempt me. And the FS in the first, while cheap (total $80), was not any fun.

Chef

cbr boy

i can’t add much to the previous recommendations. i’m fairly new to the hobby myself. i have never visited an establishment that didn’t have favorable reviews on this board. this board is a tremendous resource in determining what services might be available. (thanks again jackson!)

check out what the lady is wearing. i’m not looking for fs, but i do appreciate the beauty of the female body. if she’s wearing heavy levi’s, a blouse that has a dozen buttons and shoes that need to be untied, i figure i’m probably not getting much more than a massage and maybe a hj. however, if she’s wearing a loose dress and sandals my hands go exploring.

while i’m in my 50’s, i’ve been told i have a le look. to counter this, i try to be standing or sitting on the edge of the table, completely nude with my dick semi-hard, when the lady comes in. most cops won’t go this far. the fact i’m exposed seems to put some girls at ease that i’m not a cop.

on a first visit i usually leave a few 20s in sight next to my wallet but i never mention payment for additional services. in the end, no extra service, no tip. but when the service is good i like to slightly over tip. most girls have good memories.

treat the ladies with respect. while most make good money, it can be a dangerous profession. one provider i know was beaten and raped last year. the amp owners didn’t feel they could call the police.

let us know how you’re doing. have the tips helped?

Thanks for the post, JJ and Scrodie. I have a couple questions, though. Are both of your experiences with AMP's in the Big Easy? Have either of you tried Las Vegas AMP's? If so, what has been your experience?

If you PM me, I'll give you digits for a private provider in Las Vegas. Again, no FS. But she'll give you a great nude, sensual massage with "release" for buck and a half.

I too want to add my thanks to Jackson. Great board, good info and great price! We need the equivilant in a provider! Of course I'm from a place where they cover GQ in the 7-11 to reduce the corruption of our young. So any kind of provider would be good!