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Nice lineup with 20+ women working. Many familiar faces from Venus, Ara & Grim. Not an outstanding lineup, but solid. Both front desk ladies seem to be on the rag.
Since this is the only AO place in the Frankfurt area, the place was packed all day. The club & women must be making a killing. No real food. Apples, bananas, cake & some crappy sausages that came out of Medusa's ass. I ran into a interesting gentleman from New Jersey who works in Frankfurt.
Lucky guy.
He, don't forget that the crappy food here is quite a step above what you get in the other RTC's (which is pretty much nothing at all). I was there Tuesday and after the happpy hour rush died down, it was fairly quiet. I spent almost an hour being molested by Michaela (helas not the teenie Michaela that used to be in Venus) , because she was bored and there were hardly any men (I had already been with her, so no way that she was looking for a session) ; as soon as new clients arrived, I was asked to take a hike.
But I agree that the line up is ok, but not particularly great. Villa Venus is usually better. Also felt that way more 15 minute sessions happened than in the other clubs.
I visited last Monday afternoon. As soon as I entered I was told I had to choose option 1, 2 or 3. I was allowed to give a quick look to pics and went for the 3 sessions for 90 + 35 entrance option.
The pics portrayed 16 girls, which I don't know if were really present, I didn't bother to check in my few hours of stay. Eventually I found out 10 were AO providers and 6 were not.
The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.
I was surprised to find out that I couldn't spot not 3, but even 1 that I would consider easy overwhelming best choice. I mean that nearly all the girls were at level, I could have chosen any without being visually satisfied, but I couldn't have regretted the choice because I couldn't see a better one. Blindfolding or lucky draws could be applied. No monsters, no outstanding ones either, all solid 5s in one way or another.
After some 30 mins of indecision, I saw coming down the stairs Denisa, a short slim brunette with a pretty face, she was wrapped in a towel and we didn't have any language in common. I approached her before somebody else could take her, there must have been some other 15 punters.
Unfortunately without towel I could see the devastating effects of 2 pregnancies on her belly, bum, etc. After one minute of no good BBBJ I just switched to fuck, some 2-3 mechanic positions, we were out well before the 30 mins.
The second one was Dana, if not the best looking not far from that. She could speak english, I told her I would have taken her for last, but since I couldn't spot a second prey I decided to go with her, I thought I could even repeat her.
Later on, I befriended a guy. He came out to be one of the bloody lurkers who take advantage of our beloved ISG without contributing, I revealed my identity and he didn't feel honoured to meet me, LOL! I told him off for that! How are you mate? I promised I would greet you from these pages, Zac, now you are world famous too, LOL! Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?
Back to Dana, things went more or less like with Denisa, with the difference that we could talk and her body was better, I did touch her a bit.
Final, nearly "forced", session was with Mirela. My time was to finish, I had to go back to Oase to pick up a friend and then go to airport. When I had decided to go with her somebody else took her away and I couldn't find a better candidate. I waited for her to come back but when she did I didn't like her that much. Since we could speak a common language I took her anyway. Action equal to the other 2 sessions, with the difference I was really in a hurry, rushed to finish and literally run away.
Considerations: all girls were somehow doable, the ones I was with were gentle, positive, did genuinely what they could (unfortunately very little) to please me without complaints or refusals, but their blowing skills were very low and the sex was really plain. I'm sorry to say I didn't like any of them, apart a bit Dana, so I didn't ask nor encourage any effusions, I didn't put any symphathy or passion in what I was doing, I just carried out the task, never stayed 1 minute more for a word (actually nor they seemed to want to, also because the rooms were in high demand). I don't know if they could perceive that I was there "forcedly", I hope not. I felt I was really just using their pussies as an apart piece of their body, a sensation that I don't experience often, or not to the extent of this time, which made me feel somehow bad. I always express some sincere satisfaction and appreciation to a girl making me have a troubleless orgasm, wether with a smile, words or caresses, this time I don't think I did it, or not particularly evidently at least, and they would anyway had deserved some gratification.
About the food, there was something, not better identified, and could even be edible, but I just got a banana, my first meal in an AO club so far.
Greetings,
EG
[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469292]The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.
I was surprised to find out that I couldn't spot not 3, but even 1 that I would consider easy overwhelming best choice. No monsters, no outstanding ones either, all solid 5s in one way or another.
After some 30 mins of indecision, I saw coming down the stairs Denisa, a short slim brunette with a pretty face, she was wrapped in a towel and we didn't have any language in common. I approached her before somebody else could take her, there must have been some other 15 punters.
Unfortunately without towel I could see the devastating effects of 2 pregnancies on her belly, bum, etc.
The second one was Dana, if not the best looking not far from that. She could speak english, I told her I would have taken her for last, but since I couldn't spot a second prey I decided to go with her, I thought I could even repeat her.
Later on, I befriended a guy. He came out to be one of the bloody lurkers who take advantage of our beloved ISG without contributing, I revealed my identity and he didn't feel honoured to meet me, LOL! Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?
I didn't put any symphathy or passion in what I was doing, I just carried out the task, never stayed 1 minute more for a word (actually nor they seemed to want to, also because the rooms were in high demand).[/QUOTE]It's like getting 20 different people to describe an incident and they all give different accounts yet all manage to miss one crucial bit of detail.
There is no shortage of reports about this place but it's the first time that anyone has mentioned the lighting. Crucial that, because unless you can see properly what you are buying then you are most likely coming away with an unwelcome surprise. Also no one has mentioned before the possible restriction on repeating with a girl.
Which is why in my reports I describe absolutely everything down to how much loo paper there is in the toilet just in case that detail is of importance to someone. I wish others would do the same.
But still, even though I have never been to Dietz, I must question EastyG's opinion of the lighting. EastyG is a devout Arabella dweller and this place is like a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth. Is EastyG saying that Dietz is a lot worse than that? Both EastG and I have been to Villa V and there the lighting is a noticeably better than Arabs but EastG has never complained about the lighting in Arabs.
EastyG mentioned he went with Dana. Now there was a girl called Dana who I went with at Villa V, a small, short girl with a skinny body and a little bit of a cute face. I know that some of the girls are shuttled back and forth between these red carpet clubs so I wonder if it is the same girl. Unfortunately EastG did not go in for physical descriptions so it is difficult to say.
If anything EastG's account just serves to confirm to me that this place is no more of a stand out than any of the other RCC's. At other places I have been to there was never problems about getting or keeping a room so what seems to be confirmed here is that you get more punters here than at other clubs but with not necessarily any better girls. Also if there is a restriction on repeating with a girl then this probably reflects the fact that there are lots of guys but few above average girls and they want to prevent guys from hogging the do'able girls. So is it worth the detour especially when there are no similar clubs in Frankfurt to combine with on a trip (probably an issue in itself)?
It seems to me that the only reason that this place gets much more forum space than it's sibling clubs is clearly because Frankfurt is a much more popular destination than Dusseldorf. Also these Frankfurt visitors are likely to be business men who at least own a laptop and are eloquent enough to string two words together unlike the lurkers who are attracted to the NRW bargain basement bareback clubs and have no qualms about just relying on feeding off the scraps of information that fall from the table.
[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1469311]It's like getting 20 different people to describe an incident and they all give different accounts yet all manage to miss one crucial bit of detail.
There is no shortage of reports about this place but it's the first time that anyone has mentioned the lighting. Crucial that, because unless you can see properly what you are buying then you are most likely coming away with an unwelcome surprise. Also no one has mentioned before the possible restriction on repeating with a girl.
Which is why in my reports I describe absolutely everything down to how much loo paper there is in the toilet just in case that detail is of importance to someone. I wish others would do the same.
But still, even though I have never been to Dietz, I must question EastyG's opinion of the lighting. EastyG is a devout Arabella dweller and this place is like a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth. Is EastyG saying that Dietz is a lot worse than that? Both EastG and I have been to Villa V and there the lighting is a noticeably better than Arabs but EastG has never complained about the lighting in Arabs.
EastyG mentioned he went with Dana. Now there was a girl called Dana who I went with at Villa V, a small, short girl with a skinny body and a little bit of a cute face. I know that some of the girls are shuttled back and forth between these red carpet clubs so I wonder if it is the same girl. Unfortunately EastG did not go in for physical descriptions so it is difficult to say.
If anything EastG's account just serves to confirm to me that this place is no more of a stand out than any of the other RCC's. At other places I have been to there was never problems about getting or keeping a room so what seems to be confirmed here is that you get more punters here than at other clubs but with not necessarily any better girls. Also if there is a restriction on repeating with a girl then this probably reflects the fact that there are lots of guys but few above average girls and they want to prevent guys from hogging the do'able girls. So is it worth the detour especially when there are no similar clubs in Frankfurt to combine on a trip (probably the heart of the issue in itself)?
It seems to me that the only reason that this place gets much more forum space than it's sibling clubs is clearly because Frankfurt is a much more popular destination than Dusseldorf. Also these Frankfurt visitors are likely to be business men who at least own a laptop and are eloquent enough to string two words together unlike the lurkers who are attracted to the NRW bargain basement bareback clubs and have no qualms about just relying on feeding off the scraps of information that fall from the table.[/QUOTE]I was Dietzenbach this Tuesday. Not so many punters on that day, so getting a room was never a problem (I was there from 9pm to about 11. 30). I have been to this club a few times, mostly before it went AO. I have never felt that lighting was an issue here. Certainly there is no natural light, I. E. No windows, so that clearly affects peoples perception of the quality or level of lighting, but it probably varies from person to person. I was able to see the girls just fine, including from a distance.
Regarding the line up, Tuesday was not the best I have seen, maybe only two 8's, but the rest no better than 6. Too many overweight. I have certainly seen better here, so I figured I just picked a bad night. Sessioned with Mirelle (a bit more weight than I would normally go for) , but she performed solidly, good blow job. When it came to sex she just licked her pussy and was about to climb straight onto me, so it does seem kind of weird having to stop the girl and ask her to put on a condom (which she had no problem doing) , not that I wasn't tempted to just let her jump straight on, put AO is still not something I do all that often. 2nd session was with Vicki (Bulgarian / Turkish) , who is one of the non-AO girls (and one of the best looking that night). I first sessioned with her two years ago, so she was there long before AO became to norm. She did however perform a very good CIM to finish, which at no extra cost, is one of the biggest benefits of coming to this club.
All in all, I still like this place. Pricing is clear and simple, so there are no worries about what a visit is going to cost you, and with extras included, it can make it much cheaper than the big FKK's. I just would have liked to have seen a better line up, particularly regarding looks, but then I tend to like slim and younger ones, which I have seen many times here, but just not that night.
[QUOTE=EastGoing;1469292]Anyway he said you were not allowed to go twice with the same girl, does anyone know about that?[/QUOTE]It is true. Not the same girl twice on your card. But if you buy 2 (3) sessions you can have a third (fourth) session with one the girls you've been with and pay 40€ cash to the reception.
HB
Myrrh,
You are becoming my guardian angel, LOL! I'm glad you appreciate my reports and opinions from wherever I go. I've read about your A* in english and english literature, are you a publisher and follow me to offer me to write a book for you? Ahahahahah.
Ok, regarding your questions:
If you find the club I've visited as many as 3 times "a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth", then, should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.
Dana is tall, slim, has a beautiful face, but little saggy tits, some stretchmarks, she's a mother too, not too firm body, she is not too bad but not too good, anyway the best session I had in this club and probably the best choice possible also in looks. She said she worked in Mondial before.
I've seen the Vicky mentioned by QW123, I'd say she had the best body, proportionate and firm looking, but I couldn't see her well from behind. Also, she had a non inviting expression printed all the time on her face. She was the first one I tried to approach and I found out that we had no common languages, that she couldn't get rid of that bad expression and that she wouldn't do AO. That's how I found out that not all girls perform it. Eventually Dana explained to me that the girls on the upper line (6) didn't, she said it was also written, but in a german I couldn't understand. I went there for AO, and I couldn't have been able to do anything if that hadn't been available, the same concept that worked for my VVenus visit, with the difference that up there blowing was quite good.
As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, this club should invite him! :-)
[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469632]If you find the club I've visited as many as 3 times "a world war I bunker when it comes to murkiness. So dim you can hardly see the end of your nose. It is only on second, third or tenth glances at a girl when I was there that I began to detect defects like scars and bad teeth", then, should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.
That's how I found out that not all girls perform it. Eventually Dana explained to me that the girls on the upper line (6) didn't, she said it was also written, but in a german I couldn't understand. Eventually I found out 10 were AO providers and 6 were not.
As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, this club should invite him! .[/QUOTE]Well at least two good things have come out of your report. The lighting thing and the no repetition (subject of course to the 'Hessen Bub' rule). The fact that 6 girls there out of the 16 did not do AO suggests that this place is not quite there yet alongside the fully fledged AO red carpet clubs.
Also I thought you were a multi-linguist? How comes you didn't understand a sign saying 'Kein alles ohne' or whatever it is in German that they write on those photos. Even a ' I think the rest of the world must speak English' English guy like myself can understand that!
But I still cannot work out the logistics of this place.
[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1447816]Just had another very enjoyable afternoon at the club, some improvement to the line up, outdoor area open to relax in, and one hut / shack to enjoy the AO fun.[/QUOTE]So they have doors to an outside area, which suggests this place is on the ground floor, but no windows?
Also,
[QUOTE=Mister Dante; 1429256]Shower, another soda, and back to the couches where I just sat and took in the sights. As an American where sex is taboo and mongering horrible, seeing it put out on display as normal blew my mind! One lucky dude was getting his dick sucked on the back couch, while another was getting wacked off across from me. I thought I had died and gone to heaven.
Based on previous posts, I wanted to give Milena a try, but she had been in high demand the whole time I was there. Finally, I tracked her down and we chatted a bit. Her English was pretty good and I was really digging the dirty vibe she was laying down. Her hands started wandering and then she pulled back the towel and started paying homage to the ol' flag pole with a very skilled mouth. Suddenly, I realized something. I was sitting right across from the front desk where thekenfrau and three or four girls were chatting amongst themselves. Out in the open, getting my dick sucked by a hot blonde. I watched people pass by, some stopping to smile and I can only imagine the grin on my face. She led me to a room where she continued her oral minstrations. Now, the real reason I went for Milena is that I read she rims which is right up my back alley (so to speak). So she's still going to town on my shaft and balls when I exclaim,"Shit, lick my ass!" She suddenly stops, backs up and says,"What?" I suddenly feared that either (1) this is the wrong Milena who licks ass (2) its the same Milena and the report was wrong [I didn't read the offerings at the bar which was my fault] or (3) me asking her to freaked her out. Thankfully, she just grinned after a few seconds and said she would, but only if I gave her a creamy reward. Which I did. Which she received gratefully.[/QUOTE]So Dante seemed to have got off on the fact that others from at least a few feet away were watching the public show of affection that the girl was giving him. Which suggests that the lighting in this place is of some adequacy. EastyG is the only one to complain about it so far. Maybe Easty forgot his contact lenses that day or suffered from a temporary bout of night blindness whilst he was in the club.
Anyway Dante's description of Milena's skills I found interesting. Although some clubs have signs saying specializes in anal or schluken, I have never seen a sign saying that a girl specialises in 'tossing the salad' not that I would know what that meant in German. Yes, there are some girls who say that they 'do everything' but they react badly when they find their mouths full of your protein shake and can't wait to spit it out, so it turns out that they don't really do everything. Also so far no girl in any of these clubs have allowed their tongues to drift south of that 'de-militarized zone' between my balls and anus. If many of these girls don't like the taste of the tadpoles that come out of your pole then how are they going to enjoy eating the shit right out of your ass?
A girl thoroughly tossing your salad and then swallowing every ml of your man juice is about as good as it gets. If most of the girls offered this then I probably wouldn't bother with bareback sex and all of the risks that it involves in order to get that extra thrill that I am looking for, which I find that vanilla (covered) sex fails to provide.
Apart from hyperbolic exaggerations, meant to be for a laughter, I would insist on my initial version: lights are low, it's not dark, you won't stumble on an obstacle, you will see if there is someone, but it's a sort of cavern badly cheaply enlightened. The place is relatively big, I'd say the lounge room is a little bigger than VV's, without columns, all open "sight". There is a simple door to enter, food is half a meter inside on your left on a little table, centimeters after you have access to toilet, showers area (with a sauna I think) , and lockers, I don't remember who is on the right and who is on the left, both have small windows. Attached to the entrance of one of them you have the bar counter, in front of it stairs to rooms. Then there is this wide area with the sofas and some rooms on the left side. The lights are few and weak, small, coming from some sort of abatjours placed in corners and between sofas by walls, I don't remember about the ceiling and if there are lights around sofas in the center of the hall. On the opposite side of entrance there is a door, it was open, with sort of blinds (!) , going to a small garden. The lounge has no windows at all.
"In a german I couldn't understand" means literally what I wrote, LOL! For once that I'm precise, correct and really writing what I mean and meaning what I write, in a simple english without excuses or google translation! LOL! Of course I'd understand "Ich mache alle" "alles ohne" and the other expressions you've read in the clubs you visited in NRW. Simply, they used different words and expressions, I didn't bother to ask or check because I took for granted all girls were AO. I assumed those were specifications about anal, swallowing, etc. Those words were added up by pencil, nearly attached to the ones written by pen ink, with words not written straight but going up and down, and in cursive letters, not capital ones, I think not even a german could read them! And light didn't help!
Have I been more clear now, in describing a place we all know you'll never visit? ;-)
[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469674]I would insist on my initial version: lights are low, it's not dark, you won't stumble on an obstacle, you will see if there is someone, but it's a sort of cavern badly cheaply enlightened. The lights are few and weak, small, coming from some sort of abatjours placed in corners and between sofas by walls, I don't remember about the ceiling and if there are lights around sofas in the center of the hall.
Have I been more clear now, in describing a place we all know you'll never visit? .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EastGoing; 1469632]should you go to Dietzenbach, don't forget miner's helmet and a good supply of flashlights and torches, possibly also a gun of those shooting for SOS, simple lighters won't be of help. Bring along sunglasses to avoid being blinded if you plan to come out before dark.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EastGoing;1469292]The lights were very low, it's the first time I can't clearly see what is around, I didn't like that, I was wondering if that was to "hide" some defects.[/QUOTE]I guess it is not a good idea to ask questions about a place that could possibly be answered by visiting the website yourself. Attached is a picture from their website which shows the inside of Dietz. What is on offer there does seem to be easily distinguishable in that photo. But maybe when EastyG visited they had a bad lighting day or maybe that cameraman was using his 'night vision' lenses, ha, ha, LOL.
Anyway you are right that I currently have no intention to visit based on evidences so far. The one good thing about this place is that you do get lots of (mostly) coherently written reports about the place on this forum. Unlike Villa Venus or FKK Verena where the chronic lack of information meant that I had little alternative but to go and see for myself what it was really like, and ended up disappointed.
There is no need to make that mistake with this place.
It has been mentioned before that everything that this club provides can be obtained at a few other clubs in the NRW probably for cheaper. Most of the other RCC clubs charge 30 euros for the entry and for each girl session whereas this place charges 40 euros.
If you go to one of the clubs in NRW and there aren't any good girls that day then you can always skit across to another club. Not so with this club as it is the only one of its type in the region. Your only choice would probably to go to one of the FKK's where 40 euros wouldn't even get you a half finished hand job.
Also this place is 20km train ride out of Frankfurt and then another 1km on foot.
Nothing that I have read so far suggests to me that it is worth the detour or the trek, not even if it was guaranteed that the salad tossing, sperm schluckening Milena would be there and readily on call.
[QUOTE=EastGoing;1469632]As to repetitions, let's thank HB for his punctual elucidation, he always lightens up our darknesses, [b]this club should invite him![/b] :-)[/QUOTE]
Strongly agree. Other clubs also should. But they don't. :(
HB
[QUOTE=Myrrh; 1469699]. Most of the other RCC clubs charge 30 euros for the entry and for each girl session whereas this place charges 40 euros.[/QUOTE]
Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.
[QUOTE=Qw123;1470031]Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.[/QUOTE]Before 12 entrance also is only 15€.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1470078]Before 12 entrance also is only 15€.
HB[/QUOTE]Quite a lot of reports on German boards. One frequent poster responded to question of best time to visit. His response was early afternoon as the 15 euro entry brought in too many punters.
[QUOTE=Qw123;1470031]Actually the entrance fee to Dietzenbach is €30, except if you arrive after 9pm, when the entrance price drops to €15.[/QUOTE]The website mentions the €30 entrance on one page but €35 on another.
It also mentions the 1x40, 2x70 and 3x90.
So I am assuming that you pay the entrance and then buy one of these tickets.
If so then it is more expensive than other similar NRW clubs which charge €30 entry and then €30 per girl unless you enter with the €15 door charge.
Some of these NRW clubs have been known to use a 1x60, 2x90 and 3x110 ticket arrangement in the past but then the entrance fee is included in the price of the ticket you buy.