Vientiane

The centre of the Cty is essentially p4 p dead. No FLs hawking their wares round the Fountain, now the victim of 'progress. ' The well worn routes of the past are barrenaand bereft of talent. BPY was deserted apart from two aged hookers. And a tourist free zone.

I will investigate the less obvious MPs this evening.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1799202]The centre of the Cty is essentially p4 p dead. [/QUOTE]I am not a night owl but (I) one scrawny FL in the centre at 8,00 pm was all I saw and (ii) Samlo dead until 10.0 pm (she said) sums it up.

I had a massage off a side street. Be prepared for complicated negotations on the numbers on a 'phone. As best I understand it Kip100,000 (after "2. 5" on the 'phone mesning Kip 25,000) gets you a HL and fondle up a push-up bra and fondle. No topless. In case there is a raid-.

Since my last visit the nice ladies who used to offer to take me for a ride on their scooters from around the Fountain have gone; the many MPs where at least a discrete HJ was available are generally legit to the point of being asexual; BPY, apart from one lady, probably high on yaba, who openly flirted with me in front of her custome, is dead; other bars of the past are equally moribund.

Back to Bangkok me thinks.

The many MPs are hit and miss as far as extras are concerned and I suspect what you get offered also depends on the lady. At one the towel was pushed so tightly into my tackle it almost hurt so the lady avoided any sight or skin contact; at another a HJ was obviously available when the lady didn't even bother with the towel and massaged the tackle from the start. However she refused to go topless and I decided to save on the HJ.

But which to chose? Certainly not those with uniforms. But a T-shirt might help accessability!

Around the Night Market there are a number of FLs. Approach discretely and maybe you get a "where you go?

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1801131]The many MPs are hit and miss as far as extras are concerned and I suspect what you get offered also depends on the lady. At one the towel was pushed so tightly into my tackle it almost hurt so the lady avoided any sight or skin contact; at another a HJ was obviously available when the lady didn't even bother with the towel and massaged the tackle from the start. However she refused to go topless and I decided to save on the HJ. [/QUOTE]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. Massage prices are displayed on a board at reception. At busy times there is a "fishbowl" but other times the girls are sitting around in the lobby / reception area doing cross stitch or checking their phones.

Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.[/QUOTE]Could advise the going rate for quality FS at the health club? Visa run this week and wanting to sample the local talent.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. [/QUOTE]Definitely is not a hit or miss place, although your girl might be. Had one earlier who was a full miss, as in there wasn't even a shot to hit her with. On the bright side, she was hot, friendly (in everything but the sex), and she really worked hard at trying to make me cum with HJ, even gave me about 10 extra minutes, but not to much point. 400 thousand kip for "boom boom" that went on for about 10 minutes before she started complaining about being hurt, and slipped off the condom before I could protest, and started in with HJ. She really tried, I'll give her that, but lack of technique and a less than pleasant attitude about it just didn't do a thing for me, so I told her to stop and just ended the session a little over time, after she went on for a lot longer than it should have taken. The problem wasn't performance--she kept calling me "superman" for how long I was lasting--but just a total absence of chemistry with all of her "no" this and "no" that. No DATY, no fingering, no nipple-sucking, bla bla. Maybe MPs aren't my thing, hope they're yours. Just pay at the end like the girls in Thailand let you do, in case there's any problem.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1801326]The Vientiane Plaza Hotel "health club" (in a separate building near the main hotel entrance) is not a "hit or miss" place. Massage prices are displayed on a board at reception. At busy times there is a "fishbowl" but other times the girls are sitting around in the lobby / reception area doing cross stitch or checking their phones.

Your chosen masseuse will take you to a room and you will get your ordered service, with all other options from HJ to FS literally "on the table" (pun intended) - price negotiable.[/QUOTE]Didn't have time to try th V Plaza Hotel.

Next to the Scandanavian Bakery is an MP where everything is viable from cetain girls. In fact on looking over my notes in most MPs some extras are available (except where the girls wear uniforms) but much depends on the whims of each lady. I made a point of going for T-shirts as accesss is easier. Nothing is certain!

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1802505]
Next to the Scandanavian Bakery is an MP where everything is viable from certain girls. In fact on looking over my notes in most MPs some extras are available (except where the girls wear uniforms) but much depends on the whims of each lady. I made a point of going for T-shirts as accesss is easier. Nothing is certain![/QUOTE]I know the MP that you mean next to Scandinavian Bakery and it looks a bit seedy from the outside.

I tried it once after a tip from a PM received here and unfortunately it was busy and there was nobody available when I called. Not sure how big it is or how many girls they have "on call". The receptionist was most anxious that I either waited or returned but I did neither. I will put it on my list for my forthcoming visit.

My experience with MPs in most streets around Vientiane (including those along Pankham Rd leading up to Nam Phu (the fountain) is that they all have the mattresses on the floor in a large "common room" with the bays separated by flimsy curtains, so you know immediately that it's going to be a standard massage with zero extras. Nevertheless, I have had some outstanding massages from some of the girls in these places even if the "ending" was not what we sometimes would prefer. Sometimes I just want a good massage.

I finally return to Vientiane after my first trip 3 years ago. How things have changed! You see a lot more Koreans, Singaporean and Chinese punters in town. And that usually signal the bump in price. Note: We prefer to pay for comfort (but not overpay for WG) so this trip is on a nicer side.

When I was here 3 years ago, it was a lot more difficult to find hotel that accept WG 'guest'. Now more hotels do. I use similar rule-of-thumb as that in Vietnam. 3 stars and below. 5 stars especially if they're part of int'l chains, a no-no.

Tips: For general local transaction like food, KIP is best currency to use. For hobby transaction, THB is ironically the best currency to use from exchange rate standpoint.

Tried to book the best 3 stars possible. Bro in another forum suggested Season Hotel as it's one of the newer 3 stars property. Booked for about $50 USD / night. Good location but lousy service. Luckily I hedged by booking another property (part of Day 2 report). Through same bro, I made arrangement with private driver with specific request, we prefer night activity so they can start the day later but need to stick around till around midnight. It cost us 2,000 THB all-in (incl gas, car, driver, 8-12 hours of driver's time each day). When I was here, those tuk-tuk and other transport charge us 3-4 times over local and we really have no choice. Don't want to waste time and mood going through that exercise every time we need to go somewhere.

Driver picked our party up at airport. He even provide me local phone / SIM although we prefer buying our own local SIM because we need to use our personal smartphone. Chose $7 USD package from Unitel that gives us 10 min call time and 450 mb data over 3 G.

Checked-in to hotel which was around 15 min from airport. Grab quick meal at restaurant (Makphet) next door, highly rated on Tripadvisor. Made calls to local WG but no reply (her LINE profile said she already had BF so this could explain no response). Called local talent agent and gave our spec. Received photos via LINE with profile: 18 yo just finished high school. Look-wise didn't jump out to us. But definitely seemed fresh. However, quoted price of 5000 THB is a no-no.

Drivers of course know the scene. So had him take us to first place. A hotel with room of about 10 WG. 1500 THB one-shot on premise or 3000 THB overnight (used to be 2000 THB my last trip. Damn those aforementioned punters for raising to price). A lot of fresh young thing. But decided to move on and see more. The papasan spoke to us. Said he has higher quality for higher price he can call. Gave him driver's number and told him to call.

We made our way to second hotel. I believe this one is called Chokchai. Similar setup with about 15 WGs. Nicer quality. Saw couple which we think we can go for. Got call from papasan that he has 2 and for us to come-see. Meanwhile, 5-6 other punters rolled in. Decided to take what we thought was the best one there with us. 3000 THB overnight which we had to pay upfront.

To be continued.

We paid 3000 THB to the house (we asked how much in KIP and we lost 15-20% on exchange if we use that currency) for one and went to meet previous papasan. When we met him, the two WG he brought recognized me. They came from the same place we were at! Of course we had to pay 2000 THB premium going through this papasan. We quickly realized that this place is the source of upper middle range WG distribution.

TIP: Go to Chokchai, the source and save yourself money.

We went to dinner with the one WG we chose in tow. As was my experience before, she has very good attitude. It helps if you speak Thai because Laotian can understand Thai and visa vis. English and other language will vary by mileage. The whole experience felt pretty GFE. Since I'd been to Laos before I gave the girl to my buddy while I go to sleep alone as I'm too lazy / tired to follow-up on other leads. Preferring to do this next day.

How was the experience when it comes to sex? From technical standpoint, the girl was more of a receiver type since she doesn't really know how to please the man. So don't expect any advance foreplay from this one (or most likely her peers I would imagine). However, if you're a DYI type she's responsive. Clean pussy that gets wet very quickly with the right stimulation. Responded well overall.

Continue Day 2 report (coming soon).

Thanks for the posts Ecci.

I take it there was no problem with taking a WG into your hotel?

Was she Lao? My understanding is that it's illegal for a Lao girl to be with a foreigner.

I've googled Chokchai, but cannot find anything on it? Whereabouts in town is it?

(I'm currently in Vientiane and would be very interested in visiting the place).

[QUOTE=Ecchi;1811664]
TIP: Go to Chokchai, the source and save yourself money.
[/QUOTE]Can you provide more details re Chokchai. Didn't find anything when I google searched. Or pm me if you don't want to post.

[QUOTE=OldMonga;1812033]

I take it there was no problem with taking a WG into your hotel?

Was she Lao? My understanding is that it's illegal for a Lao girl to be with a foreigner.
[/QUOTE]It's flexible. Some hotels display a sign at the check in counter saying that guests are not allowed in rooms unless married. It always makes me laugh because of the ambiguity (married to whom?)

The sign is to cover their tails. Many (most) nowadays turn a blind eye to it, but sometimes it depends on the security guy or the clerk on duty.

There have been reports of scams too where the clerk calls up the local police and they knock on your door and expect some payment to go away (and the clerk gets a cut), but it's all vague reports, and I have never met any victim of such a scam. I can't imagine hotels wanting to alienate guests in this way.

Read back through 2 or 3 pages on this forum and you will see various comments about gf hotels

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1812159]Can you provide more details re Chokchai. Didn't find anything when I google searched. Or pm me if you don't want to post.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing it's fairly famous among local drivers so I would try asking them? It's Chokchai Hotel ground I believe. Otherwise, I can't give you much direction beyond that since I was lead to the courtyard area where these rooms are located.