Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2464948]The real question, is the monger's spending decision based on fluctuations in net worth or is it based on net income changes?

People with a family could have completely different calculations (desire to leave most of networth to children, secure their long term future etc), but the guy also may have a paycheck from spouse he can count on even if loses his job.

I would think most of the Americans who fly out regularly to monger in Europe (I. E. Not those who use a tute once or twice if they happen to be in Europe, but those who regularly fly to Europe mainly for the purpose of having paid sex) are generally well off. I. E. Networth exceeding at least half a mil.If someone has no savings cushion whatsoever, and still travels to Europe regularly for sex, he is spending mainly out of monthly paycheck, which seems crazy to me. He runs the risk of not having any fallback cushion if his job / comp takes a dive. Unless the man is making high six figures salary; but that begs the question why he has no savings / networth to start with?[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with what you said, but some mongers just have more of a "live for today" mindset, so they do not seem to be too concerned with having a savings cushion or a retirement egg. Let's take two mongers, both single with no kids, both with net worth of $500 K and annual salary of $100 K. One monger is 35 yo and the other is 55 yo. Going off just these descriptors, I believe the 55 yo is going to splurge more on mongering. There are a variety or reasons why someone might not be overly focused on their long term financial horizon. Compared to the 35 yo monger, the following is more likely to be true for the 55 yo monger: (1) suffering from depression or loneliness (2) poor health or belief that they might not be alive (or sexually virile) much longer, (3) soon receive an inheritance from a dying parent, (4) lower chance of getting a moderately attractive 30 yo GF in real life. This is why some WGs will prey on certain mongers who they believe to be more vulnerable. If your window of hope is rapidly diminishing, burning through cash at an accelerated rate on a vice is one way to make yourself feel better.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2464742]US dollar generally becomes stronger during times of global economic distress.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mursenary;2464695]I suspect the answer to this depends on your industry and your investment positions as I don't think that there will be an equal crash across the board like in 2000 or 2008.[/QUOTE]I believe both of the above assertions are true given current conditions, but my fears are more dire. If mass political or civil unrest ensues, it could challenge or upend both statements.

[QUOTE]"Is the US headed for another civil war? In a word, yes."

Professor Goldstone is a leading authority on the study of revolutions and long-term social change at George Mason University. The model developed by him and Peter Turchin tracks such data as the ratio of median workers' wages to GDP per capita, life expectancy, average heights, and the number of new millionaires. It also measures political polarisation or the degree of overlap between the parties.

Ten years ago, Professor Turchin pointed his model towards the future, and made an uncannily accurate prediction. Just like in the 1850s, crisis indicators were rising, he wrote in the journal Nature. They could be a reliable indicator of looming instability and "look set to peak in the years around 2020," he wrote.

It came down to population changes, Professor Goldstone argued. The American population surged after World War II the Boomer generation born in a time of relative peace and plenty. As this massive cohort aged and accrued wealth, they could make the country vulnerable to political crisis. But this would only happen, he wrote, if the elites did three things: tighten up the path to mobility to favour themselves and their children (like increasing the cost of university); dampen wage growth and claim a greater share of economic gains for themselves; and resist taxation so that government is starved of needed revenues.

Professor Goldstone predicts the real problems will begin after July 31, when Americans' $600 a week COVID-19 unemployment welfare expires.

"Social tensions likely continue to grow as we move to November," he said..[/QUOTE]I am by no means an expert on revolutions and social and civil unrest, but I believe two necessary ingredients are (1) economic hardship / inequality and (2) "bulge" in young population. I believe in 2020 we definitely have the former.

Original 2010 paper: [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2464679]Statement about CO2 retention and cloth masks and HIV lifestyle recommendation.

I'm not sure where you got the information that young people being sick is an anomaly but that is hardly the case anymore. I suppose that may depend on your definition of young but for the purpose of this board, I don't think discussing young 20-39 year olds has much relevance. The average age in my completely full 24 bed ICU unit just dropped to under 55. The regular medical wards have seen a spike in 40 something year olds requiring less invasive respiratory therapies.

We are getting better at treating this thing so in combination with the average younger age of those infected, death rates will decline but pulmonary alveolar damage in your 30's and 40's and myocardial cell death is irreversible. Survivors will live with compromised heart function in addition to lung damage. Quality of life and life expectancy will decline. Your young people thesis does a public health disservice.[/QUOTE]First of all, Stanford University has proven there is anywhere from a 5-20% reduction in Oxygen while wearing a mask depending on how hard you are breathing. While most CO2 will pass through the mask there is a suction caused by the mask that happens right before you stop exhaling and start inhaling that sucks back in a lot more CO2 than if you are not wearing a mask.

[URL]https://news.stanford.edu/2020/04/14/stanford-researchers-reengineer-covid-19-face-masks/[/URL]

You are a doctor so you probably think you are more intelligent than the people at Stanford. You probably went to Harvard. You seem intelligent to me with all those big fancy words you like to use, although I haven't ever met an intelligent doctor in my life in person, so far that is.

I have been to 56 different countries, and have 7,000 Facebook friends, 4500 WeChat Friends, 2000 Line friends, and about 1000 WhatsApp friends, and also a few hundred LinkedIn friends but I have never met an intelligent doctor. I even sold doctors the Medical Version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking back in the late 90's early 2000's. I must have met at least 30,000 doctors over the course of 8 years. I sold them that software for $499, that cost me $80 OEM. Just to be fair, I never met a Harvard doctor, probably because they are too intelligent to pay $499 for single use software.

As far as HIV, what is the latest medical theory? Oh yes, I remember, it can lay dormant in your system for 10 to 20 years before it ever affects you (that isn't HIV, it is old age). Oh my, the medical industry and condom companies really think "we the people" are so very, very stupid. Although, if it is real and you do get it, there is bone marrow transplant cures and new drug cured a guy in São Paulo. Then there is the medication that can be bought for as little as $5 a day in certain countries that can give you 30 years of normal livin'.

I will agree with your number of 55 as being old. I will admit to being stupid myself if you can prove that more than 5% of the severely sick and dead COVID-19 patients are below the age of 55 and were in good health before they contracted COVID-19. Good luck with that, I am not worried. I am assuming that 5% is a low enough percentage to be considered an anomaly.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm[/URL]#AgeAndSex.

Treatment, are you serious? The massive increase of UV radiation from the sun that doesn't need direct contact during the summer solstice is the biggest treatment. That combined with the humidity and warm temperatures of summer are the only thing treating the COVID-19 patients. The respirator might keep them alive but if you need a respirator your future, even if you do survive, will be bleak.

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/leaked-government-report-shows-sunlight-destroys-coronavirus/ar-BB12Qql7[/URL]

Lastly, as far as the survivors of COVID-19, please tell me the name of just one patient that you spoke the words to: "You will have long term compromised heart function and lung damage solely due to COVID-19. I then, will represent them in a lawsuit against you and your hospital, because there is no way you can prove that statement about "severe" cases of COVID-19 much less the other 99% of the mild cases.

These are not my opinions or my "thesis", these are facts!

The dark ages of relying on doctors for good medical advice are over after years of doctors changing their minds about what is good for you just so they can line their own pockets!

For a few trillion dollars, what do you think your government would be willing to lie to you about?

160,000 People die every day and if we stop living just because of 530,000 elderly and unhealthy deaths caused by COVID-19 then we might as well join them.

Educate yourself and then educate others with facts not opinions! Stop reading the headlines and find the truth in the stories. Look to the Universities for the truth, they are not controlled like the media. Almost every ground breaking discovery comes from universities where the students are not afraid to challenge the norm.

As a reward for reading this far let me share some life changing facts with you!

Seawater Electrolysis where the chlorine is safely and cheaply filtered is real and has been proven for over 2 years. This means, almost free, completely sustainable electric power and fuel from seawater harvested hydrogen, will be available forever! This process will also cause more rain and fill the rivers and lakes with pure fresh water.

[URL]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360319918304993[/URL]

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New Oxygen and Ozone discoveries about healing and their relationship to space and time are being made every day.

CRISPR modifications can eliminate viruses with as little as $100 cost. They say it is a moral issue but for $100, it beats dying. Many people have already had their pain signals CRISPRed off, so they will never experience pain again.

[URL]https://www.wired.com/story/could-crispr-be-the-next-virus-killer/[/URL]

Scarcity of anything important is a myth! Overpopulation is a myth for at least 10,000 years, ever heard of skyscraper farms!

The only thing that isn't a myth is government corruption that is paid for by the 1000 people who control everything on the planet. 1000 people against 7. 8 billion and we are afraid? That is also a brainwashed response we have to all the stories we have heard and movies we have watched.

You think this is about Covid-19, but it is not. This is a test to see how easily we are manipulated. Limiting international travel hasn't been done in years and there is not enough evidence to support this action now!

I don't want anyone to die, boosting your immune system is your best bet against fighting viruses. If you are 55 or older or if you have underlying health issues then you need to understand COVID-19 might be dangerous for you. Especially if you are an enemy of the state, haha.

For those of us who aren't 55 or older and are still healthy enough to bang 3 girls day, we ask you kindly please open the frickin' borders so we can die between the legs of a beautiful young lady exactly the way GOD intended!

If you are still not on board with educating yourself about the truth of Covid-19, then do it save some people from committing suicide because of the COVID-19 lockdowns. Lost jobs, stress from isolation, no money for bills and food have all resulted in hundreds of thousands of people worldwide giving up by taking their own lives. Many people are on the brink right now with the CDC reporting they get more suicide calls everyday than COVID-19 calls.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2464994]I believe both of the above assertions are true given current conditions, but my fears are more dire. If mass political or civil unrest ensues, it could challenge or upend both statements.

I am by no means an expert on revolutions and social and civil unrest, but I believe two necessary ingredients are (1) economic hardship / inequality and (2) "bulge" in young population. I believe in 2020 we definitely have the former.

Original 2010 paper: [URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/463608a[/URL].[/QUOTE]I thought I answered your question. No, social unrest is not necessarily a guaranteed outcome in US. In fact, I would be surprised if it came to that near term. At least not directly due to pandemic. The point is, US government can keep borrowing from the market and keep spending vast sums of money to support its citizens through these tough times, until the virus subsides and economy stabilizes. That is not something every government in every country can, because (a) some countries do not have their own currencies and cannot borrow unlimited amounts of money as the US does (b) those that do have their own currencies, say India or Brazil or Russia, cannot borrow endless amounts of money to subsidize their citizens because their currencies will crash. In that sense, US is in a unique situation.

There could potentially be unrest in US because we seem to be a polarized society to some extent. But I think the media hypes up the degree of this polarization. So, I am not expecting a French Revolution in US anytime soon. But then again, a revolution by definition is a very fast rate of change and very very few people have the ability to foresee it, especially the timing of it with any accuracy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2464986]I don't disagree with what you said, but some mongers just have more of a "live for today" mindset, so they do not seem to be too concerned with having a savings cushion or a retirement egg. Let's take two mongers, both single with no kids, both with net worth of $500 K and annual salary of $100 K. One monger is 35 yo and the other is 55 yo. Going off just these descriptors, I believe the 55 yo is going to splurge more on mongering. There are a variety or reasons why someone might not be overly focused on their long term financial horizon. Compared to the 35 yo monger, the following is more likely to be true for the 55 yo monger: (1) suffering from depression or loneliness (2) poor health or belief that they might not be alive (or sexually virile) much longer, (3) soon receive an inheritance from a dying parent, (4) lower chance of getting a moderately attractive 30 yo GF in real life. This is why some WGs will prey on certain mongers who they believe to be more vulnerable. If your window of hope is rapidly diminishing, burning through cash at an accelerated rate on a vice is one way to make yourself feel better.[/QUOTE]You may well be right, I simply have no feel for them. Fact of the matter is, I am not single and my mindset is very different, and I am in the accumulation mode. At some point in life, perhaps in retirement, I will be living off savings and my mindset will be different then perhaps. But for now, I can't even understand how to think like either person in the above scenarios.

TLDR. Too Long, did not read in entirety.

Key point worth clarifying, study quoted was regarding N95 masks, a special mask used specifically for aerosol particles, not common everyday surgical or face coverings recommended to the public. To put in perspective, proper use of those N95 masks require annual fit-testing and requires the user to be clean shaven for them to be effective.

30,000 doctors over 8 years amounts to 10 doctors per day. I don't think I meet 10 new people per day. That is quite the feat.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2464997]First of all, Stanford University has proven there is anywhere from a 5-20% reduction in Oxygen while wearing a mask depending on how hard you are breathing. While most CO2 will pass through the mask there is a suction caused by the mask that happens right before you stop exhaling and start inhaling that sucks back in a lot more CO2 than if you are not wearing a mask.

[URL]https://news.stanford.edu/2020/04/14/stanford-researchers-reengineer-covid-19-face-masks/[/URL]

You are a doctor so you probably think you are more intelligent than the people at Stanford. You probably went to Harvard. You seem intelligent to me with all those big fancy words you like to use, although I haven't ever met an intelligent doctor in my life in person, so far that is.

I have been to 56 different countries, and have 7,000 Facebook friends, 4500 WeChat Friends, 2000 Line friends, and about 1000 WhatsApp friends, and also a few hundred LinkedIn friends but I have never met an intelligent doctor. I even sold doctors the Medical Version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking back in the late 90's early 2000's. I must have met at least 30,000 doctors over the course of 8 years. I sold them that software for $499, that cost me $80 OEM. Just to be fair, I never met a Harvard doctor, probably because they are too intelligent to pay $499 for single use software.[/QUOTE]

I was in Germany yesterday for business and I'm happy to report that things are SLOWLY returning back to normal.

Instead of visiting Sharks after my meetings, I went to have a small bite to eat in a nearby town and restaurants and shops are quite full again and many people are sitting outside on terrases.

It's a true pity that clubs with a big outside area (Sharks, GT, Oase) are not allowed to open, because it seems that outside in the fresh air there is a very small chance of catching CV19. What concerns me is when the weather cools down again in September-October, the spread of CV19 will increase again because people are forced inside. Unlike the US, not many houses and businesses in Europe have air conditioning, and I wonder if HVAC systems are spreading CV19.

I remember my last visit to Sharks in January, and the air inside was really bad as always. Furthermore, the hygiene has been going downhill at Sharks for many years; dirty toilets with faces stains on the dividing walls, no soap in the dispensers, no paper towels to dry hands, dirty floors, and dirty / hot rooms. Just imagine how much dirt and how many bacteria are living inside the carpet in the main area, because this has not been replaced or cleaned in years.

Although line up was not fantastic at end of January, I really miss many beauties from Sharks and I hope it will reopen soon!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2465052]I thought I answered your question. No, social unrest is not necessarily a guaranteed outcome in US. In fact, I would be surprised if it came to that near term. At least not directly due to pandemic. The point is, US government can keep borrowing from the market and keep spending vast sums of money to support its citizens through these tough times, until the virus subsides and economy stabilizes. That is not something every government in every country can, because (a) some countries do not have their own currencies and cannot borrow unlimited amounts of money as the US does (b) those that do have their own currencies, say India or Brazil or Russia, cannot borrow endless amounts of money to subsidize their citizens because their currencies will crash. In that sense, US is in a unique situation.

There could potentially be unrest in US because we seem to be a polarized society to some extent. But I think the media hypes up the degree of this polarization. So, I am not expecting a French Revolution in US anytime soon. But then again, a revolution by definition is a very fast rate of change and very very few people have the ability to foresee it, especially the timing of it with any accuracy.[/QUOTE]Remember the 1920's Weimar Republic, Germany when one had to walk with a wheel barrow full of cash to buy a loaf of bread or recently in Zimbabwe when a can of beans cost a million Zimbabwe dollars. That's what happens when a country tries to print money to save its flagging economy and such increase in cash is not related to the production of goods. Well the US has shipped production to other countries, mostly China, but has been printing trillions of dollars not related to production, multiples what was done in the Weimar Republic and Zimbabwe. However, the economy has not crashed. Why is that? Because the US dollar is the world reserve currency which is backed up by its military. Let any country try to opt out of doing its trade in US dollars and it would face its wrath. That is why the US attacked Iraq and Afghanistan and is taking action against Iran and Venezuela. China and Russia have been making noise about not using the US dollar and the US is taking appropriate action against them. The US economy is propped up by its military prowess.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2464551]So you will wait until you take jab from the State before you jab girls.[/QUOTE]That is the idea, LOL.

Keep in mind these girls have seen many people in a days. The chance that she will get infected from other people are very high. You will not have fun to "jab" the girl if you still worry to get infected.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2464628]That's not the correct information to estimate death rate because of Covid19. In Belgium, for example, they include as Covid19 deaths even those that are simply suspected to have been caused bby Covid19. The only way to verify the death rate due to Covid is to look at excess deaths for each country compared to the previous two years. Based on the correct data, UK has the highest death rate in the world at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind there are various method to calculate the death rate due to COVID-19. The UK seems high becuase it includes people in care home. Keep in mind thousand death in care home on daily basis already exist far beyond the COVID-19 pandemic.

[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2464997]First of all, Stanford University has proven there is anywhere from a 5-20% reduction in Oxygen while wearing a mask depending on how hard you are breathing. While most CO2 will pass through the mask there is a suction caused by the mask that happens right before you stop exhaling and start inhaling that sucks back in a lot more CO2 than if you are not wearing a mask.

[URL]https://news.stanford.edu/2020/04/14/stanford-researchers-reengineer-covid-19-face-masks/[/URL]

You are a doctor so you probably think you are more intelligent than the people at Stanford. You probably went to Harvard. You seem intelligent to me with all those big fancy words you like to use, although I haven't ever met an intelligent doctor in my life in person, so far that is.

I have been to 56 different countries, and have 7,000 Facebook friends, 4500 WeChat Friends, 2000 Line friends, and about 1000 WhatsApp friends, and also a few hundred LinkedIn friends but I have never met an intelligent doctor. I even sold doctors the Medical Version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking back in the late 90's early 2000's. I must have met at least 30,000 doctors over the course of 8 years. I sold them that software for $499, that cost me $80 OEM. Just to be fair, I never met a Harvard doctor, probably because they are too intelligent to pay $499 for single use software.

As far as HIV, what is the latest medical theory? Oh yes, I remember, it can lay dormant in your system for 10 to 20 years before it ever affects you (that isn't HIV, it is old age).[/QUOTE]You have 15000 friends on face de bouc or other sm? Did you ever see them? Are you sure they are what they claim to be? For me, same like in brothels where all guys are businessman, but when Germany will stay closed, they don t go to more expensive Switzerland.

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2464947]Seriously, what do you know.[/QUOTE]My comment was mainly based on two assessments:

1. There are clear indications that even though the production of antibodies an individual produces after having received the virus is negliable for most, the production of T-cells seem far more promising. And some smaller sampling show that this is in fact creating some sort of protection against future corona viruses.

2. Historically there has been far deadlier corona viruses around than covid-19. The problem with covid-19 however is the Ace2 receptor and the FURIN cleavage. At least the last of which is added in a lab. And so it spreads far quicker than any former corona viruses among the human populace.

Here is a well written blog post written on it:

[URL]https://www.virology.ws/2020/05/14/sars-cov-2-furin-cleavage-site-revisited/[/URL]

Seems MERS did have a cleavage site, but not an RRAR, like the covid-19 has, which is the most effective one.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2465186]You have 15000 friends on face de bouc or other sm? Did you ever see them? Are you sure they are what they claim to be? For me, same like in brothels where all guys are businessman, but when Germany will stay closed, they don t go to more expensive Switzerland.[/QUOTE]Why do you feel to be provocative? This period is difficult and some need to work with very little free time!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2465146]Remember the 1920's Weimar Republic, Germany when one had to walk with a wheel barrow full of cash to buy a loaf of bread or recently in Zimbabwe when a can of beans cost a million Zimbabwe dollars. That's what happens when a country tries to print money to save its flagging economy and such increase in cash is not related to the production of goods. Well the US has shipped production to other countries, mostly China, but has been printing trillions of dollars not related to production, multiples what was done in the Weimar Republic and Zimbabwe. However, the economy has not crashed. Why is that? Because the US dollar is the world reserve currency which is backed up by its military. Let any country try to opt out of doing its trade in US dollars and it would face its wrath. That is why the US attacked Iraq and Afghanistan and is taking action against Iran and Venezuela. China and Russia have been making noise about not using the US dollar and the US is taking appropriate action against them. The US economy is propped up by its military prowess.[/QUOTE]Weimar is pre Bretton Woods. After Bretton Woods, US de-pegged from gold and from 1960's all the other major currencies began using dollar as the reserve and more or less pegged to US -- not necessarily in terms of a direct exchange peg like HKD or RMB but through dollar as a reserve. Yes, I agree that the US enjoys massive advantage due to its reserve which is what I was saying, but don't agree it is because of our military prowess. It is because the reserve system itself is explicitly built into Bretton Woods. US itself pulled out of Bretton Woods when Nixon was in office, but the reserve system persisted. Remember, after WW2 to 1970's, US was accounting for nearly half of global GDP. So, effectively it was easier for all the other nations in the world to accept US currency as the de facto currency for the world. US is no longer that big but we still account for 25% of global GDP, and much more importantly, there is no alternative. Euro is the main challenger, but it is an amalgam, not of a single country, and there are always questions on how long Euro might last. In 2012-15, during the Greece crisis, some people thought Euro might fall apart, and many Germans would have loved a return to Deutsche mark. China is logically the #2 given it is the second largest economy but RMB is not convertible and no one has much confidence in their economic stats and no one wants to hold vast sums of their currency as reserve. Yen is now too small, given Japan's size.

As for ZImwabwe, yes, precisely. That's what I mean by a country losing discipline and its currency quickly becoming worthless. When a country goes into a death spiral as Zimbabwe did, it is almost impossible to get out of it quickly. So, however painful the economy is, and however tempting, central banks in Brazil / Russia / India / South Africa have to be very careful not to print like crazy. Turkey is one country which seems to be never having any discipline. Hence this year, it lost nearly 20% versus US dollar.

Military prowess is not that huge in this equation. In the cold war period, no one cared about Russian Ruble eventhough RUssia was a huge military power then. Still is. Now, China is a domianting regional military power but again no one wants to hold RMB as a reserve. To the extent RMB is considered for reserve, it is because China is a much bigger economy and more important global economic player, as compared to Russia in the cold war.