Guadalajara

For those who can read Spanish this article in Milenio newspaper is an excellent remark of the pseudo puritanism, double moral and hypocrisy that exists in Guadalajara (and Jalisco state) toward sex, high government officials (both male and female) were caught in shameless sex parties and some even were accused (with evidence) of having sex with girls at bars who were minors; using both traffic of influence and abuse of power.

Original article:

[url]http://impreso.milenio.com/node/9008475[/url]

Translated English Google version :

[url]http://translate.google.com.mx/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fimpreso. Milenio. Com%2Fnode%2F9008475[/url]

Those are the very same government officials that condemns prostitution among consenting adults and promote conservative "family values" such sex after marriage only and no use of condoms in sexual relations due religious fanaticism.

Bunch of Hypocrites !!!!

I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?

I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.

Thanks.

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Rains not constant should not affect your trip at all. Bus travel no problem. Try GDL hotel I recommended to you in June.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1192068]I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?

I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.

Thanks. Been there all September, GDL, Mexico city, Acapulco, sure some heavy rains but not consatant should be a problem at all with bus travel. Enjoy your trip go GDL hotel I recommended to you!

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With the demise of Mexicana, last year I wound up spending lots of nights at the hotel at the GDL airport, because the late flights I used to catch were gone and the next possible option left early the next morning. Generally I sit in the hotel and watch TV, and get work done, but if there was a convenient and relatively safe option nearby, I might be up for other entertainment options. Anybody got any nearby favorites that don't entail a trip into the city?

I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.

Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.

Lady at the sex shop suggested.

Portillos Bar.

Chicas Bar.

Juniors.

I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?

Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.

Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.

Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.

Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.

[QUOTE=TheGuyOverThere; 1194327]I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.

Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.

Lady at the sex shop suggested.

Portillos Bar.

Chicas Bar.

Juniors.

I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?[/QUOTE]Any idea where Portillos or Chicas are?

Definitely going to be stuck at the airport hotel before my flight out this next trip, so would be up for exploring. Also, are there any options that would involve getting a girl to come to the hotel there? My limited Mexico experiences have basically been strip-club centric to date.

[QUOTE=TheGuyOverThere; 1195201]Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.

Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.

Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.

Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.[/QUOTE]Approx 1/2 mile south, same side of the highway is "Cadillac Bar". Try it.

Going next week. Probably going to be stuck to the area around the airport. Anyone want to give me a ballpark idea on prices so I don't get screwed over?

[QUOTE=Gonzo; 1183829]I'm heading off to Puerto Vallarta after spending 4 days in Guadalajara. A non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.

Since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (IMO) that GUA is not a great mongering destination. It is not even two notches below the great places in Latino America that I've been to in the recent past. But, as they say, money is the best aphrodisiac, and if you have money, legs will magically pry themselves open for the right price. And GUA is no exception, with some bargain basement prices I found.

Let me say a few words about GUA as a vacation destination. If you want to do some nice sightseeing and get a flavor the history and culture of Mexico, book a 3-4 day vacation in downtown GUA in the historic centro area. You could fill your days with architectural and museum viewing, interesting shopping (in the largest open air market in Latin America, with great food). If you are familiar with Diego Rivera, the great mural painter of Mexico (and husband of Frida Kahlo. Salmita!) , the murals of Juan Orozco in two buildings downtown are even more amazing (and larger). And you should also check out Tlaquepaque, a satellite city in the eastern district that is truly a cool artist colony, a kind of Sante Fe, NM, but with roving Mariachi bands. Two thumbs up to the restaurant Chai, kitty corner from the Holiday Inn on Avenida Juarez. Cool, hip place to hangout, have a coffee, chai, snack or full meal at ridiculously low prices. Also heard of another nice artisan colony Tonala', but didn't make it there.

If you walked around the neighborhood where Calzada Independencia and Hidalgo / Republic meet, there are several short time hotels on Independencia and on one or two sidestreets. The ladies are in the doorways or in the lobbies waiting and I could see them as I slowly walked by in the late afternoon. Nothing that I would pay for and to be honest, not many for whom I do for free if I had the chance. But of course there's always diamonds in the rough, just didn't see any for those moments I passed by.[/QUOTE]Great report. I was in Guadalajara several years ago. I was in a serious relationship and was not mongering, but taking in all the tourist sites was awesome. I loved that open air market.

I think my then girlfriend and I definitely walked by the Calzada Independencia and Hidalgo / Republic area. I hardly spoke any Spanish then, my ex was totally fluent so that made travel easy. Anyway, we were once approached by several aggressive, overly friendly ladies in skimpy dress who grabbed at me. I grew up in a third world country, and immediately knew that they were providers. I explained this to my ex, who is a gringa, laughing as we walked away. She was not amused as the realization hit her.

[QUOTE=Gonzo; 1183829]I'm heading off to Puerto Vallarta after spending 4 days in Guadalajara. A non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.

Since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (IMO) that GUA is not a great mongering destination.[/QUOTE]I completely disagree. Gladly.

I can safely say I'm a world traveler and often have used the opportunities when had them to explore beauty around me. As far as GDL is concerned, enough to say that miss universe 2010 was actually from GDL! I've really laid eyes on the most beautiful, prettiest, funniest-to-be-with, women ever in GDL.

I was there one year ago, I was on business and had very little time to hook up, but even for me it wasn't by any means difficult. If you don't have much time around, head for the massage parlors. I had a private car and my driver drove me to couple of places. Petty I don't recall addresses. But it's established. 99% of massage parlors there would offer you a FS.

The two places I've been to, the girls were gorgeous, so friendly (despite my lack of Spanish) , and willing to make a guest happy.

GDL, definitely a place I wish to visit again

[QUOTE=CaiFkr; 1204468]I completely disagree. Gladly.

I can safely say I'm a world traveler and often have used the opportunities when had them to explore beauty around me. As far as GDL is concerned, enough to say that miss universe 2010 was actually from GDL! I've really laid eyes on the most beautiful, prettiest, funniest-to-be-with, women ever in GDL.

I was there one year ago, I was on business and had very little time to hook up, but even for me it wasn't by any means difficult. If you don't have much time around, head for the massage parlors. I had a private car and my driver drove me to couple of places. Petty I don't recall addresses. But it's established. 99% of massage parlors there would offer you a FS.

The two places I've been to, the girls were gorgeous, so friendly (despite my lack of Spanish) , and willing to make a guest happy.

GDL, definitely a place I wish to visit again[/QUOTE]Just got back from State of Jalisco. Went with a friend from there we not only had a good time in Guadalajara but the smaller towns north of there.

hello, i felt like this thread needed something like a "resume", or more like giving quick facts about guadalajara, from my experience, hope it helps.

first of all, i'm a local, if you wonder.

* avoid table dances, they are a rip off, i had been to several of them and the times i decided to have a girl sit in my table, the bill just went up to the sky.

* avoid "plaza del sol" and javier mina avenue, pretty much you'll find transgender there (generally after midnight and more in number at weekends) , the "pretty ones" are at plaza del sol if it's what you looking for.

* there's also transgender at plaza del mariachi.

* there are hookers in the infamous hidalgo hotel which been mention on this thread a lot. i would avoid them.

* there are street hookers at revolucion ave, but i would avoid them, low quality and high chance of getting a disease.

* if you still want to visit a table dance, i would recommend candys bar, pretty much any taxi driver will take you there. my best table dance experience was at titanic blue, but some people on this forum, didn't like it at all.

* i don't recommend going to the table dances that you find on the road between the airport and the city, not very safe.

* there's several table dances nearby ibm plant on the outskirts of the city (it's nearby el verde town, to the road that takes you to 'el castillo') , i don't recommend those, quite unsafe.

* there's nothing for you on the east side of the city, that's after libertad market (aka san juan de dios market) , there's 'action' but usually on shady places and low quality.

* for a good pop, visit a barber shop (estetica masculina) , one that nobody mention here and i highly recommend is 'select', it's on 2546 paz avenue (av. de la paz) and francisco de quevedo, pretty close to centro magno plaza, it's $1, 200p, last time i was there. another one is 'luigi's', it's on lopez cotilla 1882, one block from centro magno, last time i was there, price was $500p, there's single mom's pretty much, but service is good and every time i went there i left with a smile.

* people on this forum recommend '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]', i hadn't visit it.

* there's other esteticas that i hadn't seen mention here, the ones i found but never tried: alex (it's on av. arcos, in front of a oxxo, a few blocks away from mariano otero) , lions (2167 niños heros ave, corner with simon bolivar) i should mention that there's plenty of esteticas nearby niños heroes statue, that's nearby chapultepec ave.

* to pick "local girls" try the bars at downdown.

* action is spread in guadalajara, we don't have a designated area.

* yes, women here are after money, not all of them, just the easy ones.

* if you like to pick women after their 40's try 'la copa de champagne' piano bar, it's by "glorieta colon", also many taxi drivers know where's located and zone is relative safe.

* avoid internet ads, on my experience, you don't get the girl from the picture, sometimes the phones are bogus.

* after the new law implemented by our goverment, ads are someone restricted metro, esto newspapers have few ads.

* avoid calling galilea models, at all cost.

* there's ads on the adult section on the yellow pages, but i don't recommend those.

* yes there's hookers at libertad market, so far i had only seen "one jewel", and no, i don't recommend going there for a pop.

* if you like transgenders, there's a local website (travestis mexico) , who have good looking models, i don't know how much they charge.

* if you rent a car, and drive around the city, at some point you might get "business cards" with girl phones (the hooker type) , so far, the phone on those cards are bogus, dunno if someone had luck getting actually a girl from those.

* many taxi drivers know a lot about mongering, ask them if you feel comfortable doing so.

* if by any reason you have to go santa anita town (tlaquepaque area) , avoid white / yellow cabs, they ask a lot of cash.

* yes, there's awesome food at tlaquepaque, but also good food at guadalajara and zapopan areas, i recommend "el rincon gaucho","los inmortales", if you need a fix for mexican food, go to "el tequila", those restaurants are easy to find and any taxi driver should know about them. avoid street food vendors if you are somewhat have a weak stomach.

* spanish is not a must, but it does help, many locals do speak english.

* this thread has way more information than all the "local" websites combined.

* the cheapest drinks in all town are usually from gay bars.

if i remember more information, i'll give it to ya, gl

I get into Guadalajara often but usually only during the afternoons and on Lopez Mateos between the Plaza del Sol and points south. (Back towards Jocotepec) Anyone know of places where one might find some daytime fun. Street, Table Dance, Bar, whatever.

Thanks in advance.

I will be there for business in several weeks time. I want to start corresponding with non-pros through a dating website in the hopes of meeting several like we do in the Philippines. I know this is probably not recommended, but what are the options other than amigos. Com? Are there "marriage agencies" like in Cali which help foreigners hook up with non-pro or semi-pro girls? I am not looking for marriage but would like to meet several I could stay in touch with and invite to my home country in the Caribbean. The girl does not have to be rich to get a tourist visa but she cannot be a professional puta. I know some Spanish.