Paris

[QUOTE=Xavier Yves]bonjour a tous

I have an impression that the escort girls from EE are charging more and more when they do city tour in Paris. One year ago, the average price is 200 euros/one hour for full service (excluded A-level, CIM/CIF depends). Now I found all agency go to up 250-300 euros for one hour..............it sucks..........[/QUOTE]

Yes, I agree. Let's just use only the agencies that keep a reasonable price ... and boycott the others. I recently had a very nice session with beautiful Carolline of Club111. 2 hours for 170€/hour.

As a perfectly neutral expert (well...), I offer to make an absolutely objective comparison between Denis' favorites (the Chinese ladies) and Algeria for Ever's choice (the North African women). I have tried the former, but Algeria has opened a new path.

(Tax-deductible) contributions welcome to support this daring intent to learn a bit more about the "mystères de l'Orient".

[QUOTE=Routard]For my report number 400, here the story of my very first mongering experience. It happened in Paris more than 10 years ago. I didn’t know anything about mongering, was not aware about discussions forums on Internet and too ashamed to ask anyone about info or advice. Paris was the city of love and Rue Saint Denis was the most famous place to go in Paris. So it looked obvious for me that it was the best place to start.

It was winter, and as I was ashamed to walk around in Rue Saint Denis, I had a hat on and walked quickly on the darkest side of the street. I was too nervous to have a good look, made a quick survey and wondered if I could manage to get an erection with any of those horrible old fat dogs. I spotted a dark haired girl that looked younger than the others. I asked quickly for the price, agreed and followed her to upstairs, too happy to leave the street. In the corridor, there was a bit more light, I noticed how ugly she really was. She started some small talks and I didn’t like her voice at all. The missing teeth confirmed me I wouldn’t make it with her. I lied to her that I needed to get some cash at the ATM before. She started to yell at me, I exited the corridor while the other girls also started to yell: ”Puceau, va!”. Yes, I was definitely a virgin in the mongering world. My first steps into this world were not very glorious.

I dared not to come back in that area anymore, and went on the opposite side. Again, I spotted a blonde girl that seemed younger than the others. I approached her, took care about her voice, agreed quickly for the price, 200FF (30€) and we went upstairs. I was still anxious about being able to get an erection, so I tried to get horny by focusing on her ass while getting upstairs. She had a short skirt and seemed to have a nice body from what I could see. Her small size made her look young. In fact, there was at least 10 years difference between her and me…but to the reverse side than what I’m used nowadays!

We entered a dirty small room without window or water supply, one bed, a few porn posters on the wall, a small table and chair in front of a mirror. She introduced herself, Martine from Bretagne. She asked for the money, took off her skirt and asked to undress myself too. I took of my coat, but when I started to open my shirt, she said I just needed to take off my pants, we had no time to take off the top. What a turn-off! I feared again for my erection. Then she offered me to take off the top and take some more time if I agreed to pay 200FF more. I agreed, as I realized I wouldn’t make it else.

But when she undressed, I had another turn-off! Yes, she just had her breast enhanced and it was still covered by bandage. I noticed also that she definitely had not the body I expected. The only good thing was that I felt more comfortable undressed, as it was very hot in the room. It looked that I was not the first one that found the temperature too high, as there was a strong odour of sweat in the room. She asked me to come closer, but when she opened her legs, I smelled an odour I will never forget. Disgusting! The smell was closer to an animal than a human being.

Little Routard was smaller than ever, he was not proud too. She tried to put a condom and blow, but no way, little Routard became even smaller. The condom was not helping, so I asked her to remove it and try it with her hand. No way, little Routard was not ready to be fooled in any way. And that horrible smell just kept turning me off. I knew it just would not happen. So I asked her if I could just try to jerk me off. I always managed to do that, even without a female, so why would it not work now?

She agreed, tried to take a sexy position leaning on the table, flashing her ass. At least the distance between her and me made the smell being less strong. But all the scene just was so weird and I was so turned off that for the first time of my life I could not even jerk off.

I apologized, dressed myself and left as quickly as possible. Once back at the hotel, I took several showers and changed all my clothes. I was ashamed, felt guilty and was so turned off I was afraid I would not be able to get again an erection once back at home. I couldn’t forget her horrible smell for weeks. It took me several years before I dared to try again a second mongering experience. I was convinced that hookers could only be old, dirty, ugly and give poor service. What was I wrong…

Since I discovered ISG, I have experienced the most incredible sex with more than 300 young gorgeous girls from around world. ISG simply changed my life. Thanks Jackson and thanks all of you ISG members to make this happen.[/QUOTE]

Incredible, but (sadly) true experience Routard...

Please, can you copy your message and post it every time someone askes infos on Rue St Denis? :-)

This is so true to life.........possibly THE most cringeworthy experience, sexually in my entire life was a punt on Rue St Denis.

France/Paris ( as I have mentioned before) is a desert of all things sexual....pass right on by...don't stop, don't ask a price, just get to the next country....ANY bloody country( apart from Italy...nearly as bad) !!!

It has turned into a complete SH!THOLE as regards paid sex, a survey done at one of the Olympics showed that the French used most condoms during their stay......BUT it turns out, they only had sex amongst themselves!!!

Such sexual arrogance...is breathtaking............as for their echangiste venues, unless your a good looking guy with a good looking gal, then you may as well have a wank in a cabine!!!

Well, Routard, if you start off like that, EVERYTHING after it is better. And as you have discovered around the world, especially in the FKKs of late, there are great experiences to be had.

What I like about classier brothels is that you do not get the feeling of sordidness that you can get on the street and in grotty apartments. Not so much adventure perhaps, but it's a shaming experience for me when it goes so wrong. The rip-off, the attitude, the bad smells, the cheapness. Often cynicism is not far away.

The UK is another country where you can have awfully sordid experiences. There, as in Paris, it is worth, IMHO, spending more money on a good incall or escort. And you can get them in both London and Paris of course. And in London, usually at any rate, with superb service.

On the other hand I really do admire the guys who manage to work the street to their advantage.

On to the next 400!

Awfully sordid?.......in the UK?....not on the street, as street work has died out in most areas, but the parlour, independent scene is not only alive and well but in places like Manchester, positively thriving and offering very good value for money..........IMHO........so give me examples of these experiences Toscana!

[QUOTE=Toscana]On the other hand I really do admire the guys who manage to work the street to their advantage.
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There are a few guys on this thread that make an excellent job to try to find out descent action in what is left from the Parisian street action. I respect this, as it is more difficult than making enthusiastic reports about the German FKK scene. So my report was not intended to be negative about the Parisian street scene. I wanted to highlight simply how ISG had helped me in my mongering career.

When my mongering experience improved around the world, I came back sometimes to Paris and tried again the street action. I had learned and was improving the Art of Mongering. I took the time to drive around along the Boulevards, making a general survey before, spotting a few preys, parking the car nearby and making a walking approach. I learned to make fast and reliable evaluation, and avoid disappointments, daring to say no too, as my quality standards had increased. I took care also about the logistic: a renting car, a nearby hotelroom with easy parking access...And best of it, I learned to take control over the process and to get the service I was expecting. I learned to see the women behind the hooker. I showed her empathy and respect. I was the perfect gentleman and also the self confident experienced mongerer that just couldn't be fooled by bad service. Small talks, humor, a compliment, taking care of here, warming her up if it had been cold outside, taking a shower first and asking her to do the same, not paying upfront, refusing to put the condom upfront, not let her give a a quick erection with a vigorous handjob, take the time, make her feel comfortable with me, get her to kiss, get her to have pleasure too...plenty of details that I improved. And yes, even in Paris I had some excellent sessions with girls I found on the street. My best reward was when I came back several monthes later the girl still remembered me from the last time and was happy to see me again even if I had been only once with her. I had spent exciting nights in Paris hunting on the Boulevards, bringing back the preys to my hotel, doing the deed and returning again for the next round. It was during the glory days of street action a few years ago. But as I managed to get in the skin of the girls, it became too obvious for me that they were victims of human traffics. My last street girl was an Eastern European teenager that I still can't forget. She was so young, I'm not even sure if she was 18, and her life was already like shit. Since then I promised myself to stop with street action.

Well, the Paris thread is hardly the place to go into my more unpleasant UK experiences. :-) :-) But I have reported on both this and several other forums, going back quite a while in fact.

Note that I said "CAN have awfully sordid experiences", and believe me, you can, and I have. Mainly among cheaper independents. I didn't say you WILL! Of course Manchester, Edinburgh etc are flourishing mongering destinations. Agree whole-heartedly. Not to mention the parties scene, which I must try some time. I just find that - for what I want - I have to accept delving a bit deeper into the pocket than I normally would, especially in London or Paris.

[QUOTE=Toscana]Well, the Paris thread is hardly the place to go into my more unpleasant UK experiences. :-) :-) But I have reported on both this and several other forums, going back quite a while in fact.

Note that I said "CAN have awfully sordid experiences", and believe me, you can, and I have. Mainly among cheaper independents. I didn't say you WILL! Of course Manchester, Edinburgh etc are flourishing mongering destinations. Agree whole-heartedly. Not to mention the parties scene, which I must try some time. I just find that - for what I want - I have to accept delving a bit deeper into the pocket than I normally would, especially in London or Paris.[/QUOTE]
the party scene in london is awesome and the best VFM you can get in Western Europe, let alone the US. If you are up to it, you can fuck 4 girls, including BBBj and CIM in 2 hours for £ 120, in an nice clean environement. See reports on the London Thread. So no comparison with the dead scene in Paris.
In Paris I still manage occasionally some action in swinger clubs, but that's the only option left.

Are there any Thai or other Massage Parlors still open in central Paris?

Thanks

I just found your posts whilst browsing around and very pleased I am too as I don’t normally read the French section.

You wrote two excellent posts which I have just emailed to a friend of mine (you met him last December in fkk World). I particularly liked the second post about how you control the situation, you know what you are looking for and you will take time to both give and receive pleasure.

About four years ago I went to a conference in Paris and decided to try and monger a little one evening by driving out to the woods on the western side of the city. I had read up a little about where not to go, the main advice being to avoid La Pigalle, so I was a little unsure what I was doing.

In the end it was quite easy, there were many working girls lining the roads running through the woodlands. It was just a matter of stopping at one I fancied and talking to her. Having a right hand drive car made this more comfortable. I found a girl who pretty much looked perfect to me, a tall blond with big tits. She was from somewhere like Fiji and was fun. I think the price we agreed was €50 and she directed me to somewhere secluded where she gave me a good blowjob in the car.

All in all, it was a positive experience. In fact I even went back the following night and found her again and had an even more positive experience the second time. And you are right, having the isg forum provides us with the tools we need to monger in a positive way.

Kingwenslas

Kingweslas,

Thanks for your reaction. Yes, most newbies start with street action, which is a mistake, as it requires much more experience to enjoy it. But on the other hand, once you have been to FKK, you never look back again. And the wood in the western side of the city you have been for mongering is the Bois de Boulogne.

More on the Chinese in Porte de St Mandé
Business must be low for the Chinese as today I found one willing to do BBBJ with CIM for 20€
I found her in the usual place along the peripheque.
Denis

Hello,

Where to go for finding ladies for sex in La Defense in Paris?

Thanks in advance

Raketost

I will be passing through Paris on a Friday night in Mid-November. I will stay at the Sheraton in De Gaulle.

I have RTFF'd back about12 pages and see absolutely nothing except street Asians, expensive escorts or swing clubs.

Is there any chance of any action at all in De Gaulle?

'bare