Havana

[QUOTE=SuperChuck;3064294]Congratulations, paying 100 euros for a girl in Cuba ha ha but you also offer her dinner?[/QUOTE]You may have slightly missed the nuance. "They want $100 USD". Want as the operative word. Imagine an attractive blanquita that is offering GFE and starting the gift negotiation at $100 USD. Now imagine you make 50 times that in take home income on a monthly basis. My guy, no matter how you slice it. That is some damn good value.

[QUOTE=SwashBuckler77;3065006]You may have slightly missed the nuance. "They want $100 USD". Want as the operative word. Imagine an attractive blanquita that is offering GFE and starting the gift negotiation at $100 USD. Now imagine you make 50 times that in take home income on a monthly basis. My guy, no matter how you slice it. That is some damn good value.[/QUOTE]People with your thinking are what ruins it for everyone else. You start at $100, then it turns into $150 and so on.

Next thing you know your Costa Rica and every girl wants $250-300 dollars for short term.

BTW overpaying almost never results in good things happening and especially in Cuba. It will only lead you down a road to more requests and more problems. Next thing you know you're buying a Chica a house or a moto for her dad. LOL.

Use your brain fellas and know the prices. If you pay more than 20 or 30 dollars tops you're getting taken. Thats the Cuban price if you know what you're doing.

Could not agree more with you.

Paying 100-150 USD in Cuba is just pure insanity. I just got home from a nice trip, and I never paid those prices. And yes chicas always wants more. Never ask how much they want and don't be afraid to say NO! Met several girls only "paid" with some gifts. Utilities etc not of huge value never cash.

Begging lies in their blood here.

Normal pay her is 5000-1000 k pesos you do the math.

[QUOTE=JimmyStreets;3065009]People with your thinking are what ruins it for everyone else. You start at $100, then it turns into $150 and so on.

Next thing you know your Costa Rica and every girl wants $250-300 dollars for short term.

BTW overpaying almost never results in good things happening and especially in Cuba. It will only lead you down a road to more requests and more problems. Next thing you know you're buying a Chica a house or a moto for her dad. LOL.

Use your brain fellas and know the prices. If you pay more than 20 or 30 dollars tops you're getting taken. Thats the Cuban price if you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]

Girls will ask for recargas, money for their sick aunt or abuela, money for transport, medicines.

Even had one asking me for a phone!! Like what the hell, had never met her. And never ended up meeting her.

One thing I've seen, often, is that some guys for whatever reason who have been starved of female attention or intimacy in their home country mistake the heavy female attention they receive in Cuba (or Colombia, or the DR, or Costa Rica or wherever) with actual affection. What they don't realize is that many, perhaps not all, but MANY of these girls are literally trying to get as much money from you as possible in as short a time as possible.

This is what leads men to mistake the attention they're receiving as "love" and they fall into the trap of approving every money / other request the girls make. This is understandable given their situation. No matter how many times I have counseled guys to NOT FALL FOR THIS TRAP, they still do. Honestly, nothing anyone can do about that.

I think with more experience they will start to recognize the signs (like all the recent Facebook girls messaging me who immediately ask for money for their kid, grandma, mom, whoever that is suffering some terrible fate) and just turn them down, especially if you've never gotten anything from them.

That said, guys will be guys and it is what it is.

Bottom line, know the market price: In Havana, lately, it's $20 USD for short time, I. E. 1 hour or so. $30 USD for 2-3 hours, which is more than enough for me. And honestly, you can probably pull an all nighter for $30-40 USD tops, especially if there's good chemistry with the chica.

As Jiniterinator notes, it's about the experience and not the money, for me anyway. If a girl is a true knockout, or gives me incredible passionate service and not just a "go through the motions" girl and she stays the whole night, I will give her more because I want to reward that extra effort.

Yes you can pay less. For example last summer I paid $5 k to a girl from the streets to fuck me raw on the couch of my apartment, it was fine for the 30 minutes we went at it and for the money a crazy value, but it wasn't one of the best experiences I've ever had, so in that sense I got what I paid for. Would I do it again, for sure! But is it something that I would seek out, no.

To each their own and best of luck!

Cheers, Nomars.

[QUOTE=JimmyStreets;3065009]People with your thinking are what ruins it for everyone else. You start at $100, then it turns into $150 and so on.

Next thing you know your Costa Rica and every girl wants $250-300 dollars for short term.

BTW overpaying almost never results in good things happening and especially in Cuba. It will only lead you down a road to more requests and more problems. Next thing you know you're buying a Chica a house or a moto for her dad. LOL.

Use your brain fellas and know the prices. If you pay more than 20 or 30 dollars tops you're getting taken. Thats the Cuban price if you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. The few that visited me that only wanted to make out and no further fun.

Did not receive my gift bag either. Did not give them more than transportation cost. Don't give them too much too early.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3065018]One thing I've seen, often, is that some guys for whatever reason who have been starved of female attention or intimacy in their home country mistake the heavy female attention they receive in Cuba (or Colombia, or the DR, or Costa Rica or wherever) with actual affection. What they don't realize is that many, perhaps not all, but MANY of these girls are literally trying to get as much money from you as possible in as short a time as possible.

This is what leads men to mistake the attention they're receiving as "love" and they fall into the trap of approving every money / other request the girls make. This is understandable given their situation. No matter how many times I have counseled guys to NOT FALL FOR THIS TRAP, they still do. Honestly, nothing anyone can do about that..[/QUOTE]

I like this attitude / approach. Give them equal to what they give you. More effort, more enthusiasm, more passion = more cash / goodies.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3065020]Agreed. The few that visited me that only wanted to make out and no further fun.

Did not receive my gift bag either. Did not give them more than transportation cost. Don't give them too much too early.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyStreets;3065009]People with your thinking are what ruins it for everyone else. You start at $100, then it turns into $150 and so on.

Next thing you know your Costa Rica and every girl wants $250-300 dollars for short term.

BTW overpaying almost never results in good things happening and especially in Cuba. It will only lead you down a road to more requests and more problems. Next thing you know you're buying a Chica a house or a moto for her dad. LOL.

Use your brain fellas and know the prices. If you pay more than 20 or 30 dollars tops you're getting taken. Thats the Cuban price if you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I think you too have missed the nuance of this discussion. The chica just so happens to start the negotiation at $100. This is over 3 x market price. If blanquitas with great service are indeed scarce, that is smart business on her part. Offering a premium price point in a scarce environment is just good business. In no way did I elude to sealing the deal at $100. She can start the negotiation at whatever price she wants. My point was that she starts the negotiation at $100, you have the knowledge and resources to negotiate down from $100. Globally, punting in Cuba is a great value proposition. That is probably the single reason men even visit Cuba. Ladies are extremely undervalued due to economic distress.

I will concede your point that if every single visitor starts paying $100 then the market price will surely start to creep up to normal value but I have to push back a tad on "Ruining it for everyone else" moniker. This moniker is often exaggerated and emotional. This would probably only be true if overpayment happened. At scale! The Cuban market is severely distressed so it currently doesn't represent "true value". The current market is just a reflection Cuba's economic collapse.

At scale. Rest assured, the $30 market price is safe for now. Most mongers with means will not travel to a place with daily power outages, spotty internet, food shortages, lack of hot water, lack of sanitary supplies etc. It really is a catch 22. If one has true love for the Cuban people and their rich culture, he has to be hoping that their overall economy and access to fundamental human needs is resolved immediately. If that wish is granted, the market will assuredly correct itself.

What are the best nights tp go?

Obviously Friday and Saturday -- but are there are particular weeknights to avoid. Do any weeknights draw a crowd of chicas?

Also, what are peak hours? I like to meet a chica on the earlier side, so we are not out until 2 am before I know who I'm getting into.

I just end up going home if that's the vase.

So, peak hours and days for V&S and 212?

Thank you in advance, mates! Will report back after my next trip.

Thank you! I missed this on my first read through the forum, so apologies if you see my question about V%S /212 posted again. You answered it well right here. My fault for the miss and thank you for this info! Cheers mate.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3064991]Well, not all the hot ones have left, there are quite a few in the streets, especially in Havana.

As for V&S / 212, it really is hit or miss lately. In February when I went, I met Cinthya, my tiny 5 foot flat flaquita negra, with absolutely perfect tits on her (big see cups with big nipples) on her small frame and she's pretty too. Been really enjoying my sessions with her. $20-40 USD depending on how she performs and how generous I'm feeling. Last time she let me video us for as long as I wanted. I timed out at 2 minutes, as it was hard (pun intended) to keep the phone steady while stroking her beautiful pussy.

Either way, V&S was also good last month, almost too good on a Sunday night around midnight, as with fewer tourists / guys, and a WHOLE LOT of girls, it would've been easy pickings. But since Cinthya was there, I didn't go trolling for others since I knew she was a sure thing.[/QUOTE]

Best areas to walk?

Everybody says San Rafael / Bit what time is best for that?

And what other streets are the best?

I like to meet chicas near the university!

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3064991]Well, not all the hot ones have left, there are quite a few in the streets, especially in Havana.

As for V&S / 212, it really is hit or miss lately. In February when I went, I met Cinthya, my tiny 5 foot flat flaquita negra, with absolutely perfect tits on her (big see cups with big nipples) on her small frame and she's pretty too. Been really enjoying my sessions with her. $20-40 USD depending on how she performs and how generous I'm feeling. Last time she let me video us for as long as I wanted. I timed out at 2 minutes, as it was hard (pun intended) to keep the phone steady while stroking her beautiful pussy.

Either way, V&S was also good last month, almost too good on a Sunday night around midnight, as with fewer tourists / guys, and a WHOLE LOT of girls, it would've been easy pickings. But since Cinthya was there, I didn't go trolling for others since I knew she was a sure thing. But on that Sunday, April 12th, there were seriously over 100 girls in V&S and I'm not kidding when I say maybe 10 or 15 dudes. Maybe. There were ZERO guys in comparison to the number of girls in there, definitely worth going.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3064991]Well, not all the hot ones have left, there are quite a few in the streets, especially in Havana.

As for V&S / 212, it really is hit or miss lately. In February when I went, I met Cinthya, my tiny 5 foot flat flaquita negra, with absolutely perfect tits on her (big see cups with big nipples) on her small frame and she's pretty too. Been really enjoying my sessions with her. $20-40 USD depending on how she performs and how generous I'm feeling. Last time she let me video us for as long as I wanted. I timed out at 2 minutes, as it was hard (pun intended) to keep the phone steady while stroking her beautiful pussy.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I wrote a long reply but I don't think it saved so hopefully I don't end up double posting, but you can get some smart sunglasses these days for 200-400. You can use it to inconspicuously take videos and pictures and take phone calls or listen to music while on vacation without having to take your phone out. You can also use for bedroom recording, but just know the cameras for these arent centered, they're on the side, so if you think you're recording something centered in frame, you're actually potentially completely missing the target if they're very close to you. Also the glass lenses are very dark and hard to see, but you can switch the lenses out to transparent or even prescription.

The last issue is if you have it set up as such you can have the media auto upload onto your phone or even facebook or instagram so you have to be careful to make sure you don't accidentally upload private stuff to the general public, and I believe meta glasses in particular some uploads get reviewed by a human being for ai training so there are some privacy concerns if you have your glasses linked to your personal info.

Per the reports of a few people, the Cuban immigration authorities are taking Meta Glasses from people arriving at HAV. They are returning to them when you depart the country from HAV.

But you cannot enter the country with them and use them there. They do not allow this.

Similar with Starlink terminals, although I think those will just be confiscated and not returned.

So, be careful if you try to enter Cuba with these things, you may lose them and not get them back, or you may get them back on the day you return home.

Otherwise, yes, the glasses would be a sweet option for recording videos with the chicas and good tip on trying to get the video centered on the action, based on the location of the camera in the glasses.

[QUOTE=RubberDuckyBos;3065165]I wrote a long reply but I don't think it saved so hopefully I don't end up double posting, but you can get some smart sunglasses these days for 200-400. You can use it to inconspicuously take videos and pictures and take phone calls or listen to music while on vacation without having to take your phone out. You can also use for bedroom recording, but just know the cameras for these arent centered, they're on the side, so if you think you're recording something centered in frame, you're actually potentially completely missing the target if they're very close to you. Also the glass lenses are very dark and hard to see, but you can switch the lenses out to transparent or even prescription.

The last issue is if you have it set up as such you can have the media auto upload onto your phone or even facebook or instagram so you have to be careful to make sure you don't accidentally upload private stuff to the general public, and I believe meta glasses in particular some uploads get reviewed by a human being for ai training so there are some privacy concerns if you have your glasses linked to your personal info.[/QUOTE]

Headed back to Cuba soon and will report back now that I am a member.

If any of you can share a contact -- Facebook, whatsapp, Instagram etc -- please help a brother out!

I was overly dependent on badoo after years of working the ground in Old Havana and Vedado, and after that was lost, it's been tougher sledding.

I plan to visit V&S /212 for the first time.

I will work whichever streets you all suggest. San Rafael and which pat of it? What times? Where else? Paseo del prado?

I stay in Vedado and La Rampa is nothing since a longtime ago. Anywhere to go inn Vedado?

And if you are a member and can PM me, please send over any reliably sexy contacts you have. Your help will be paid back however I can and pure gold karma!

Thanks everybody!

Which one if this? Did you give me her info I think and she never wrote me? What's her name, if you don't mind, mate?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Nomars777;3063709]Hi all,

If anyone wants, I have a chica in Havana who has multiple friends all of whom are available for fun visits.

FYI. The ones she can refer now are "blanquitas', I. E. Lighter skinned ones, still dark / black hair, but more european looking vs. Afrocubana, if that's your thing. They want $100 USD each, but you could try to negotiate that down.

If you want her contact, send me a PM and I'll respond to you directly with her number.[/QUOTE]