Manila

[QUOTE=Danibbler;1293635]They're doing their job. Of course, they will become suspicious if someone keeps flying in and out of their country which they may well be aware has little of value to offer a tourist. I've seen this in Singapore and elsewhere.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Danibbler; 1296955]That's fine but you were talking about the Philippines, not Thailand. I'd like to see you visit Singapore every other month before they start getting suspicious there too.

There's an Aussie series called "Border Security", have a look at that show.[/QUOTE]Well, Just yesterday, they did infact ease Visa on Arrival facilities for Indians.

[url]http://gulfnews.com/news/world/philippines/philippines-allows-visa-free-entry-for-indians-1.1039355[/url]

However, only when an Indian also holds US, UK, Canada, Australia, Singapore visa as well, so its not that they don't want us at all or visit frequently, they want quality Indian tourists which I doubt will take a detour to PH with a visa of other countries and stay only for 21 days without any extension.

OMG. Are you for real FreebieFan. I'm jealous! Where / how do you meet these women?

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1295867]7 weeks since last visit, but arriving Manila at 3. 30am.

Schedule is.

Day one.

Miss Ex Virgin 18, with her 6 inch high red high heels. Her legs go round my back nicely and looks realy good on video. Got her a new vibrator recently in HK. She says she will let me video her with that. FREE.

Next up is a cute DIA girl. 21. Needs tuition money. Smoking body on cam and lives near me. She's ready for her 3 hour pictorial LOL. SEmi FREE.

Finally will be my cute model like 22 year. 40kg, slim, hot and always in high heels even when naked. FREE.

Maybe will be with her to watch England game somewhere in PB.

Day two.

Cute girl from Alabang. Been chatting for a few weeks. Asked her what her best feature was, first she said "my smile", then she said " well maybe my tits". FREE.

Not sure who's next, will be whoever answers the phone.

Evening will be a real sweetie with fabulous tits who I see often.

Maybe get out with her to see France game. 2.45 am tho. Phew. Hard going.

Day 3.

Girl from Cavite coming in the morning. 30. Hasn't had sex for 7 months. Slim body, maybe 42 kgs. Taxi fare.

Girl from Batangas coming. Will meet in Manila. Long long hair. 42 kgs. Slim slim body, really nice girl. No sex for 2 years. FREE.

Day 4.

Work.

Cute girl from Cubao. Coming for a "pictorial" LOL. Bikini will be on, snap snap snap, then off to bed. FREE.

Second girl from DAy one coming with her two friends. We see what happens with some Tanduay or tequila in them. Maybe a foursome LOL. Probably not free. Kick them out then late night flight back.

That's it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Escort Fan; 1296965]Actually I remember going to Arena on my frist visit to the Phils a few years ago.

There were indeed so nice looking girls, but I ended up with one that gave me a shitty service.

I remember she gave me a CBJ which is a sacrilege in the Philippines, no other girls ever tried to propose me a CBJ eversince and I've had tons of girls.

I might give it a try again, but I'll be sure to discuss services before booking to avoid such problems.

Even though I don't see myself asking her "hey are you on the pill, I want a creampie tonight!".[/QUOTE]Arena girls IMGO can be very fussy as prefer the Japs and Koreans. Frenzy knows an ex Arena girl (or more) as do I. My one is very spoilt by the Japs etc, confirms that they don't do much but some are seriously kinky however, they don't last long and pay a lot. So when we want long time shagging and BBBJ etc and it means they have to work. We get shitty service at times.

Now this ex Arena is super cute and very sexy but still sees her Jap customer when he is back in Cebu as he pays seriously good cash for less than 1 shag a day on average (and less then 5 mins as well each shag)

For Manila some friends would suggest Classmates and Pegasus. I know some ex UAE girls working in the former who are very cute and very nice (also sisters as well who are terribly bisexual with each other)

Just my views. But as you said EF get the menu agreed first

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1296959]You can also try Cebu, we have a place called Arena, it the most expensive and it hires the best.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1297200]Arena girls IMGO can be very fussy as prefer the Japs and Koreans.[/QUOTE]I barfined an Arena girl. She was very pretty although I would not rate her as an Arena superstar. The initial cost of meeting her, having a few drinks and auditioning her, then taking her out of the bar for LT multiple shags was huge. Over 8000p I reckon, but its only money so who cares, right. She turned out to be a GFE. I met her and a GF of hers the next day for ice coffee at Starbucks. Then we walked around the mall. I met some other guys on similar missions. LOL. I bought her some skanky jeans that she wanted at the department store for 800p. Then we said goodbye to the friend and we went back to the Marriott for some fun. I gave her 1500p tip plus the jeans for the afternoon shag. I told her I was going next to Palawan and she wanted to come with. She was a very pretty little spinner, but I wasn't sure about taking her on a beach holiday. I have her number and if she is still around, I would not mind hooking up again when I get back to town.

Here is what the Asians do at Arena: they ask the mama for a private ShowTime. Then 30 or more girls are rounded up and the boys see who they like. Me, dummy gringo, I sit on my sofa for an hour watching one girl at a time strut her stuff on the giant stage and looking to the sidelines at the multitude of sexy girls in the shadows. I picked my girl, she was one of the sexy ones in the shadows because every time I looked her way she gave me a nice big smile. But my point is that those Asian guys are not dummies. They know what they want and make the system work for them. And yeah, there were a hell of a lot of stunners of all shapes and styles in Arena.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1297200]I know some ex UAE girls working in the former who are very cute and very nice (also sisters as well who are terribly bisexual with each other)[/QUOTE]Very cute, bisexual sisters has to be #1 on my bucket list. You are a very fortunate social deviate WR.

[QUOTE=Mitch1384;1297027]OMG. Are you for real FreebieFan. I'm jealous! Where / how do you meet these women?[/QUOTE]As a newbie on here you need to do some reading of past posts.

You will learn how it is possible to do as FF does if you plan it right.

Having a car and living smack bang in the center of things (like FF when he visits) is also an advantage.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1297200]For Manila some friends would suggest Classmates and Pegasus.[/QUOTE]Has anyone BFed from the high end QC KTVs recently? It's hard to gauge current pricing. The QC thread hasn't had any updates in a while and the prices mentioned there vary quite a bit. Perhaps YMMV? From what I gather, the girls working at these high end KTVs are not obligated to go with you either, so you may walk away empty handed but still have to commit to spending just to get in the door.

Also, on my last visit a number of taxi drivers kept trying to push me to head to some KTVs on Roxas Blvd. I can't remember all the names, I believe Area 51 was one of the places mentioned. I'm guessing these may also fit the bill for more premium talent, but was not able to confirm. Anyone tried these?

[QUOTE=Mitch1384;1297027]OMG. Are you for real FreebieFan. I'm jealous! Where / how do you meet these women?[/QUOTE]The information I am going to provide is based on my experience only. There are many ways to obtain free sex in the Phili, I only offer my method. Many guys have their own way of going about it and they can offer their suggestions if they like. I say all of this ahead of time and provide this disclamier so I can avoid replies from other guys wanting to debate my methods. What works for me, may not work for someone else. Likewise, their methods may not work for me. Sometimes, you just have to try different methods and find what works best for you.

Simply stated, I find the best way to free sex is via DIA, which stands for Date In Asia (a dating website). I have tried several, but the best return on the dollar for me has been Cherry Blossoms website and Filipino Cupid website. Take a nice pic, post it, join for a month or two, put together a nice intro (e. G, you are sincere, looking for a nice girl, true love, long term relathionship, all that type of BS). Tell the girls what they want to hear. Most Filipinas on these websites are looking for love or the hopes of finding it. They are looking for a nice guy, harding working, etc. Bare in mind, you do not have to be this, just act like it.

Sit back, and watch who sends you emails. Then respond and be a nice sincere guy. Never talk about sex, unless they do first. And then, do not go overboard, talk about sex as being romantic. Filipinas love that BS. After emails, set up a time to go on Skype and check them out. Now this is how the free sex comes in. After you chat for a while, if she likes you, one thing will lead to another. Then, when you come to visit in Phili, you have a girl waiting for you.

As for me, I will not meet a girl in person, unless, we have talked about her stayiing in my room, in my bed, being romantic, making love, etc. One girl told me she will stay with me in my room, but no sex. Hum, I would not waste my time to visit her. Why do that, when I can go to AC and buy it on the cheap.

Based on my experience, the easy target are older women with kids. These women get no attention from guys in the Philippines. Thus, they are horny and lonely. Women in the 30s. 40s, and 50s. Every women in her 40s I met online, I had sex with them the first night they came to meet me. Again, the key is to develop a relathionship with them online. Filipinas are in to having boyfriends online, and never have met the guy before, and she will call him her boyfriend.

Now, for the downside. Lots of BS online. Lots of girls will ask for money and other BS stuff. When you come across these grils, do not waste your time and move on to the next one. If you meet 10 online. 6 will be BS. 3 will not work out for whatever reasons, and 1 will be the free sex. Another downside is all the time you have to invest in this online dating stuff. Also, lots of these girls are looking for LT relathionships. If you are not looking for that, getting the free sex is not worth it becasue these girls will bug you.

From online dating Asian websites, I have had about 10 Filipinas and the free sex, over the past 3 years. However, now, I only have 2 regular Filipinas I see when I go back to Manila several times a year. Both consider me their LT boyfriend and they both want a future with me. I like being with them becasue they are regular girls, working at good jobs, so they do not need my money, they are sweet and horny, and good bareback sex and BBBJ. However, I did not meet these girls online, I met them when I was in Manila. One at a bank, and the other at the mall. This is another option to getting free sex, just meet them when you are out on the town during the day or night. The options are endless when it comes to meeting girls in the Philippines.

Getting free sex is not really free all the time. Most girls want to go out to dinner, movies, mall, you may want to buy them jeans etc. For them, giving you sex is apart of the dating process. This is where the cost comes in. However, in return, you will most likely have a real GFE. Of course, their will be times when u meet a girl, never spend a dime, and have sex with her.

When I was in the service many many years ago, my buddies and I called the Philippines "The Land of Ladies." This is even more true today, with 100 million people in the Philippines. Tons of girls are looking for boyfriends and husbands. Bare in mind that most middle class local guys and rich guys in the Philippines spends their time buying sex at KTVs/bars, banging his wife, and having a few girlfriends. One actor, who is in his 70s now, was in the news paper recently for having more than 30 children by different women. Most Filipinas find it hard to find a good man in the Philippines, that is why so many of them are online looking for you! The bottom line is, pussy is everywhere in the Philippines. For sale and for free! Have fun!

[quote=undercoverh;1297338]now, for the downside. lots of bs online. lots of girls will ask for money and other bs stuff. when you come across these grils, do not waste your time and move on to the next one. if you meet 10 online. 6 will be bs. 3 will not work out for whatever reasons, and 1 will be the free sex. another downside is all the time you have to invest in this online dating stuff. also, lots of these girls are looking for lt relathionships. if you are not looking for that, getting the free sex is not worth it becasue these girls will bug you.[/quote]true. also, one way to avoid scams are to not entertain out of city girls from where you are staying. most of these girls are based in mindanao where tourist numbers are low or out skirts of manila. the girls from those region would be more hotter, more open to nude cam request, sex talk etc than city girls in manila or cebu.

thats the trap they set us all in. these girls are masters of how our sex deprived mind works and they would exploit it fully. they will agree with all your request but say they don't have fare to travel to your place, so send them money for plane / ferry ride. once you send it. you never going to see the money again. but will see the girl again. thats how smart they are and will apologize that her mom got sick and that money went to her medicine and could you please send the money again and considering the level of horniness we have. if we send. we will never see the money again but will see the girl again. this time. her little sister tuition fee was late and then again you send. this time she was hungry and so on and on. untill you give up.

but she won't. she will apologize. and will make a final attempt to milk you over. some of the girls are more cunning than nigerian scammers atleast nigerians don't scam a same victim twice but filipina will scam you thrice or for ever untill you have nothing left. which is what happens to many farang expats who loose their savings, pension and the house.

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also, the other scam is mobile load scam. she will say she has arrived in your city but out of load please send some load. you send it happily never to see the girl again.

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majority of the cases that a monger will encounter in ph is not **** scam or a set up. but scams like above. which many fall into but don't see it coming.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh; 1297338]. SNIP.

Simply stated, I find the best way to free sex is via DIA, which stands for Date In Asia (a dating website). I have tried several, but the best return on the dollar for me has been Cherry Blossoms website and Filipino Cupid website. Take a nice pic, post. It, join for a month or two, put together a nice intro (e. G, [B]you are sincere, looking for a nice girl, true love, long term relathionship, all that type of BS[/B]). Tell the girls what they want to hear. Most Filipinas on these websites are looking for love or the hopes of finding it. They are looking for a nice guy, harding working, etc. Bare in mind, you do not have to be this, just act like it.[/QUOTE]Nice post Undercover and your method is tried and true. I note your disclaimer and how you don't want debate etc but I just wanted to ask about the statement in your post that says "you are sincere, looking for a nice girl, true love, long term relathionship, all that type of BS".

With all due respect, these sort of "promises" to women when you have no intention of seeking true love, long term relationship etc are really cruel to these women who are romantic and desperately seeking this sort of thing after having had cheating BS pinoy partners for years.

When you "drop" them or just disappear they become bitter and hardened and very suspicious about foreigners and their BS promises. If you really ARE seeking LT, true love etc, then I apologise and will change my opinion.

The alternative approach, which works for both me and several of my mates including FF, is to be absolutely upfront about what you want.

Tell them that you are NOT looking for a wife or a serious relationship but merely seeking a fun-loving friendly woman who likes to go to movies, nice restaurants and hang out with you and have fun while you are visiting. That way nobody gets hurt; we both have fun (for free apart from the dinner and the movie tickets) and you don't leave her bitter and twisted when you disappear.

The amazing thing is that there are 100s of women on DIA who actually LIKE that approach because they know exactly where they stand.

My diary is always full using this approach, and I don't have to feel guilty about spinning them BS and having them fall in love with me when I am not really interested in them beyond the next date. It is also amazing how many "back-up" for the next time too.

Will be arriving in Manila for just one night, to travel next day to the Visayas. It will be my first time in manila and scrolling back some 10 pages I don't find the answer to my questions. For some p4p, is EDSA near the airport or is Ermita a better location? Any advice on distance for both locations from airport is appreciated and some ideas on accommodation.

[QUOTE=Mitch1384;1297027]OMG. Are you for real FreebieFan. I'm jealous! Where / how do you meet these women?[/QUOTE]Yes I'm for real and the sequence was.

Day 1. Repeater, new girl, repeater.

Day 2 New girl.

Day 3 Repeater, New Girl.

Day 4 (half day) New Girl, New Girl.

Too tired to post the report today. Will be there in a day or say. And yes, totally for real.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1297249]Very cute, bisexual sisters has to be #1 on my bucket list. You are a very fortunate social deviate WR.[/QUOTE]That is one of the nicest things anyone has said recently about me (not that they say nasty of course!). Thanks NB

(In Fact enjoyed them multiple times and soon I will enjoy a different set of sisters. Life can be very demanding at times LOL)

Just more sexual play on ISG, since when does anyone become a "sex deviant" on ISG? THanks for the post Mr. Bumpo.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1297249]I barfined an Arena girl. SNIP SNIP SNIP.

Very cute, bisexual sisters has to be #1 on my bucket list. You are a very fortunate social deviate WR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1297359]Nice post Undercover and your method is tried and true. I note your disclaimer and how you don't want debate etc but I just wanted to ask about the statement in your post that says "you are sincere, looking for a nice girl, true love, long term relathionship, all that type of BS".

With all due respect, these sort of "promises" to women when you have no intention of seeking true love, long term relationship etc are really cruel to these women who are romantic and desperately seeking this sort of thing after having had cheating BS pinoy partners for years.

When you "drop" them or just disappear they become bitter and hardened and very suspicious about foreigners and their BS promises.[/QUOTE]I agree totally RK. There really is no need to bullshit about a 'serious relationship' if it is only your intention to fuck them for a few hours in the afternoon or for one night. Promises of a serious relationship when the reality is only afternoon delight leaves a bitter taste.

Being open and up front that you are only after fun will still pay dividends. Sure you will get some knock backs in DIA but also considerable success, including referrals. On more than one occasion a contact has replied that sorry, she does not do fun and wants serious relationship only but she knows a neighbour, cousin, etc who will meet for fun. I have met lots of girls through referrals.

[QUOTE=X Man;1297457]Just more sexual play on ISG, since when does anyone become a "sex deviant" on ISG?[/QUOTE]I am sorry X Man that you misunderstood me. My comment was meant to be a sarcastic compliment. I am glad WR got it.

Urban Dictionary: "sarcastic, an adjective, describing a type of humor. People who are sarcastic usually annoy the hell out of everyone who can't get their jokes."

My comment was intended as praise to WR for accomplishing something laudable that very few of us on the forum have been fortunate enough to have experienced. By the standards of western Judeo-Christian puritanical mores and culture, all ISG mongers are sexual deviants or sinners if you prefer. The target of my sarcasm or scorn was the uptight puritanical culture most of us come from not WR.

Again, #1 on my bucket list: a ménage with 2 pretty, bisexual, Asian sisters.