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[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1555288]More information is required.
First, what type of girl do you target? Age, body type, etc.
Second, how many drinks do you buy them?[/QUOTE]I'm into natural looking 20ish, petite, slim. More into performance than supermodel looking
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1555285]Not to beat a dead horse, but go see for yourself. There is no substitute for personal experience.
However, I will say that there is a reason you won't find much information about those places here. They are designed to separate as much money as possible from you in as little time as possible. Yes, even faster that in the zona. Prices tend to be higher, too.
Girl quality is too subjective to bother with. But P&B is a Tijuana institution and you should go once.
I think you'll find your experience at Amnesia is not atypical.[/QUOTE]Phordphan,
I totally understand we should experience places for ourselves but this is a forum for people to share information to give us a better understanding of whats out there, and that's what I'm looking for, I am asking if anyone had any experiences with some of these places, I'm interested in hearing them. I understand my experience may be different but at least it gives me a little more to go by. Then just go check it out for yourself. If everyone went by your theory there wouldn't really be a need for 80% of the posts here.
But I was wondering about peanuts & beer, a little more info would be nice. But that's one on my agenda. And I'll make sure to share my experiences here.
Sorry to say but 90% of the time that is what you are going to get in Tijuana. Rushed and just another session attitude. This is because there is not need to change. There are another 100 dudes behind you if you do not like what is being served. Now natural looks in 20's
Petite. That is the 98-99% failure category. You want a great time. Look for 25+ make up girl. Bit of chub or baby weight. Now you will 60/40 get a bit of service with a smile. Because she needs to value your return business. It's all bottom line behavior in Tijuana. Don't.
Be fooled by the BS on this site
[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;1555325]I'm into natural looking 20ish, petite, slim. More into performance than supermodel looking[/QUOTE]That's most of your problem right there. You, and about 90% of the guys there want exactly the same thing. That body type appeals to most gringos, but is in short supply in Mexico. There is no need for great service because if you don't like it, the next guy in line won't complain.
If you're determined to stick with that type, buy her a couple of drinks and gauge her attitude. If she rushes the drinks she'll rush upstairs.
Older chicas, like early 30s and up will offer better service due to lower demand. Also, the more local looking ladies, I. E. Darker and chubbier, often offer better service.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Quick Love; 1555368]Phordphan,
I totally understand we should experience places for ourselves but this is a forum for people to share information to give us a better understanding of whats out there, and that's what I'm looking for, I am asking if anyone had any experiences with some of these places, I'm interested in hearing them. I understand my experience may be different but at least it gives me a little more to go by. Then just go check it out for yourself. If everyone went by your theory there wouldn't really be a need for 80% of the posts here.
But I was wondering about peanuts & beer, a little more info would be nice. But that's one on my agenda. And I'll make sure to share my experiences here.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I re-read your original post and I had misinterpreted it.
My point still stands about the relative scarcity of information concerning these places. They are clip joints for the most part and, IMHO, best avoided after the first curiosity-satisfying look-see.
I'll be in Tijuana, this Thursday 04/17. Sunday 04/20. If your going to be down around that same time PM me, so we can hang out and drink a few beers. I usually go solo but would like to meet some cool people into the same fun.
[QUOTE=Quick Love;1555704]I'll be in Tijuana, this Thursday 04/17. Sunday 04/20. If your going to be down around that same time PM me, so we can hang out and drink a few beers. I usually go solo but would like to meet some cool people into the same fun.[/QUOTE]I am going to try and be there tomorrow as well. Taken the day off. Will PM yea if I go for sure
Has historically been one of the worst Friday's of the year for chica availability. Curious as to how it was today if anyone went.
Mexican girls are devout Catholic. Of course they abstain from sex, stay home and go to church on Good Friday.
Mexican putas always make the sign of the cross when they take money from mongers after the fuck session, like they were thanking God for the sex income. Hehehe.
I think girls from Romantic culture, Mexicans, Spanish, Portuguese, Brazilians, Argentinians, Philippinas etc. Just know how to deal with this kind of dichotomy better than Protestant girls, eg. They go to church regularly, but they are also sluts who would fuck any guys at the drop of a hat.
I found girls from those countries just love sex and they are not bashful about it. I had great sex in those countries most of the time, except Brazil. Brazilians are very tough people, at least around Rio. There are a lot of crimes in Rio.
My Brazilian friends were telling me girls in Northern Brazil tend to be darker and rougher. Further South, in colder regions, you are more likely to find lighter skin and the girls are actually sweeter. The guys were telling me to go to smaller town in South Brazil for the best-looking and sweetest girl.
I found the sweetest, also some of the prettiest, girls in Argentina and the Philippines, both devout Catholic countries. Is there a correlation here?
[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;1555325]I'm into natural looking 20ish, petite, slim. More into performance than supermodel looking[/QUOTE]You have received some good advice here. I would suggest you check out some bars other than Adelita Bar or HK. Sure, the girls are plentiful and often very pretty. If you are wanting performance, my experience is that you will only find it at these 2 places by luck, unless you go there a lot!
Try Tropical Bar, Las Chavelas, Malquerida, or Bar Golden Palace. There will be fewer stunners for sure. But your odds of getting a higher performance, GFE are astronomically higher at these places. Speaking a little Spanish and buying a ficha or 3 go a real long way in these places.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Ninguno Especial;1556555]Has historically been one of the worst Friday's of the year for chica availability. Curious as to how it was today if anyone went.[/QUOTE]Just got back. It was a tad slower, but plenty of chicas were available.
[QUOTE=Quick Love;1555368]But I was wondering about peanuts & beer, a little more info would be nice. But that's one on my agenda. And I'll make sure to share my experiences here.[/QUOTE]I wish I could give you more info as far as the girls go. I did walk in there not to long ago early in the afternoon and there was not a single customer in there. There were a couple girls who popped up from napping in the booth. But since I didn't want the pressure of being the only customer I left.
Now as far as the barkers and meseros this place employees, use extreme caution this place has been hiring shady characters for years. Every time I walk by, once they realize that I'm not interested in going in they will try to sell me every drug under the sun. The other night one of the barkers walked with me the whole block trying to sell me shit.
The masero's there also were some of the best magicians in all of Tijuana. If you were to pay with a 10 or 20 dollar bill they would change it into a 1 dollar bill right in front of your eyes. Judging by the barkers I doubt much has changed at this place.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Been traveling to Tijuana and back many many times over the past few years, and I've noticed a few common mistakes rookies like myself and seasoned pros tend to do every now and then. So I've decided to post some of the things I've learned in my years both on and off the track.
1. Don't bring anything you're not willing to lose. A cell phone? No problem. Most of the girls probably have better phones than yours, and stealing amongst girls is rampant. Your family heirloom necklace your mom gave you on your christening? That should stay home. Most meseros are."honest", but all it takes is one crooked one to ruin your trip. Keep your wits about you, and don't flash anything that would tempt someone to do something stupid.
2. Take care of yourself. When the season get warm, you get sweaty. If you get offended by a girl who's crotch smells like dirty pennies (or worse, like the outhouse door of a tuna boat) , don't be a double standard because she's not as enthusiastic giving you a BJ with your sweaty, vinegary balls. Bring some moist towelettes for Christ's sake. I'm not even going to start on dingleberries.
3. Don't get drunk. Everyone loves to drink. But when you're in a foreign country called Mexico, you have to be aware. A good buzz should be about as far as you go. Lay off, drink some water, and recover before the next round. This goes double if you're flying solo.
4. Nothing in Mexico is free. On the flip side, everything has a price. If you're willing to pay enough for it, you can get it. Just don't moan that it's too expensive. Negotiate. That's your responsibility. There may be an oil cartel, but there ain't no pussy cartel, especially with the number of ladies lined up on the average Saturday night. You have the money, you make the offers. She don't want it? Move on.
5. Speaking of moving on, don't get trapped by the same pussy. Strip club hounds have a term called an "ATF"- or "all-time-favorite." Forget it. You didn't travel across the border into Mexico to get guilt-tripped by a girl since you promised her last time after your last "mind-blowing" session when she came twice and no one had ever done that before and age doesn't matter because you're different and she can see past your outside to your good heart and that's why she's the only person you should be buying drinks for, not the 18-year old new hottie from Monterrey with the gravity-defying natural-C cups who you just offered to take upstairs out of frustration after waiting an hour for your supposed ATF to finish up with another client who means nothing to her like you do so she's really sorry so buy her a VIP, because she's your ATF, and also so she can shoot daggers and seethe at who just tried to take you, her moneymaker (I mean, her novio) away from her.
6. Find her, feel her, fuck her, and forget her. And don't forget to pay her somewhere in that sequence. Exceptions can be made for good sessions, although past success may not always be an indicator of future performances. Just ask any divorced man.
7. Always assume that she's lying to you. Always.
8. If you just thought to yourself,"but not my girl, she's the exception," Read #7 Again.
9. The way she treats her drink is the way she'll treat your cock. Pounds her drink and waves for another before you even have a chance to feel her up? Kick her to the curb, because I guarantee it's going to be like fucking a dead corpse, or worse, fucking a dead corpse that won't shut up about how much it hurts and that you should hurry up. On the other hand, takes her time and makes good eye contact and laughs? You've got all the makings of a good session. Don't be surprised if she looks like she really enjoys it- these girls are academy award level actresses. The easier it is for them to slip into their part, the better the performance for you.
10. Lap dances in a private room? Fuck that. Have her sit on your lap and watch her go to town. They know what to do. If you're gunshy about having a girl grind on you in the middle of a strip club, look around. All the other girls are wearing way less and you don't see many of them embarrassed riding some guy's crotch like it was the last cock on earth. Enjoy it.
11. The hottest girls will do the absolute minimum to get by. Why? Because they're fucking hot and they know it. If you're not willing to put up with their unreasonable shit, then there's a bunch of other guys out there who are willing to take it in the ass to buy her fichas. Ask yourself- are you looking for the hottest chick in the club to fuck, or just fuck around with? Sorry to say, like real life, these girls still have golden pussy syndrome. Because they know they are hot, they'll perform poorly in the bedroom. The second stringers? Expect them to make up in enthusiasm what they lack in looks. Wouldn't you get jealous if your male co-worker made double or triple your pay simply because he still had all his hair, or a six-pack? How would you treat someone who took a chance on you vs. Them?
12. If you're an occasional visitor, dollars are fine. If you get sweats and shakes if you've been away from the Zona for more than 2 weeks in a row, consider getting pesos. You'll save more money in the long run, especially with street girls. This doesn't apply to the bigger clubs like HK, and to a certain extent, Adelitas. Apparently most of those girls in those two places have calculus degrees, or they just demand dollars because if you're a gringo dealing in pesos, you're someone with experience who should be avoided. That's good, because those girls would have given you shitty sessions anyways.
13. Asians are the goddamned wet dream of every single bar girl in the Zona. The overtipping, the lack of grabbiness, and the stereotype of smaller. Weaponry makes them a first choice for most bar girls. Which is funny, because from what I've heard from girls, some Asian guys like to pretend they didn't understand the girl and pay less than what was agreed upon. White guys are next simply because the old ones don't cause too much trouble upstairs due to their age. Black guys, I feel sorry for, because I've seen some guys get shut down by street and bar girls because of their supposed size. Most of the ones I've shared a beer with in the Zona are straight shooters, so it's a shame that so many get dismissed out of hand. Indians, especially turban-sporting Sikhs, are just sideshow oddities for most of the girls who have never seen one on real life. I've seen them there, but never seen one take a girl upstairs. Apparently they are shitty lowball negotiators, according to my sources. Are these generalizations? Yes. Are there anecdotes to the contrary? Of course. I'm just letting it be known to those who have never been there.
I've got more, but this ended up being way too long. Hope a rookie learns something, and veterans don't find too much about.
-MT
[QUOTE=MaskedTurbator; 1557371]Long time lurker, first time poster. Been traveling to Tijuana and back many many times over the past few years, and I've noticed a few common mistakes rookies like myself and seasoned pros tend to do every now and then. So I've decided to post some of the things I've learned in my years both on and off the track.
1. Don't bring anything you're not willing to lose. A cell phone? No problem. Most of the girls probably have better phones than yours, and stealing amongst girls is rampant. Your family heirloom necklace your mom gave you on your christening? That should stay home. Most meseros are."honest", but all it takes is one crooked one to ruin your trip. Keep your wits about you, and don't flash anything that would tempt someone to do something stupid.
2. Take care of yourself. When the season get warm, you get sweaty. If you get offended by a girl who's crotch smells like dirty pennies (or worse, like the outhouse door of a tuna boat) , don't be a double standard because she's not as enthusiastic giving you a BJ with your sweaty, vinegary balls. Bring some moist towelettes for Christ's sake. I'm not even going to start on dingleberries.
3. Don't get drunk. Everyone loves to drink. But when you're in a foreign country called Mexico, you have to be aware. A good buzz should be about as far as you go. Lay off, drink some water, and recover before the next round. This goes double if you're flying solo.
4. Nothing in Mexico is free. On the flip side, everything has a price. If you're willing to pay enough for it, you can get it. Just don't moan that it's too expensive. Negotiate. That's your responsibility. There may be an oil cartel, but there ain't no pussy cartel, especially with the number of ladies lined up on the average Saturday night. You have the money, you make the offers. She don't want it? Move on.
5. Speaking of moving on, don't get trapped by the same pussy. Strip club hounds have a term called an "ATF"- or "all-time-favorite." Forget it. You didn't travel across the border into Mexico to get guilt-tripped by a girl since you promised her last time after your last "mind-blowing" session when she came twice and no one had ever done that before and age doesn't matter because you're different and she can see past your outside to your good heart and that's why she's the only person you should be buying drinks for, not the 18-year old new hottie from Monterrey with the gravity-defying natural-C cups who you just offered to take upstairs out of frustration after waiting an hour for your supposed ATF to finish up with another client who means nothing to her like you do so she's really sorry so buy her a VIP, because she's your ATF, and also so she can shoot daggers and seethe at who just tried to take you, her moneymaker (I mean, her novio) away from her.
6. Find her, feel her, fuck her, and forget her. And don't forget to pay her somewhere in that sequence. Exceptions can be made for good sessions, although past success may not always be an indicator of future performances. Just ask any divorced man.
7. Always assume that she's lying to you. Always.
8. If you just thought to yourself,"but not my girl, she's the exception," Read #7 Again.
9. The way she treats her drink is the way she'll treat your cock. Pounds her drink and waves for another before you even have a chance to feel her up? Kick her to the curb, because I guarantee it's going to be like fucking a dead corpse, or worse, fucking a dead corpse that won't shut up about how much it hurts and that you should hurry up. On the other hand, takes her time and makes good eye contact and laughs? You've got all the makings of a good session. Don't be surprised if she looks like she really enjoys it- these girls are academy award level actresses. The easier it is for them to slip into their part, the better the performance for you.
10. Lap dances in a private room? Fuck that. Have her sit on your lap and watch her go to town. They know what to do. If you're gunshy about having a girl grind on you in the middle of a strip club, look around. All the other girls are wearing way less and you don't see many of them embarrassed riding some guy's crotch like it was the last cock on earth. Enjoy it.
11. The hottest girls will do the absolute minimum to get by. Why? Because they're fucking hot and they know it. If you're not willing to put up with their unreasonable shit, then there's a bunch of other guys out there who are willing to take it in the ass to buy her fichas. Ask yourself- are you looking for the hottest chick in the club to fuck, or just fuck around with? Sorry to say, like real life, these girls still have golden pussy syndrome. Because they know they are hot, they'll perform poorly in the bedroom. The second stringers? Expect them to make up in enthusiasm what they lack in looks. Wouldn't you get jealous if your male co-worker made double or triple your pay simply because he still had all his hair, or a six-pack? How would you treat someone who took a chance on you vs. Them?
12. If you're an occasional visitor, dollars are fine. If you get sweats and shakes if you've been away from the Zona for more than 2 weeks in a row, consider getting pesos. You'll save more money in the long run, especially with street girls. This doesn't apply to the bigger clubs like HK, and to a certain extent, Adelitas. Apparently most of those girls in those two places have calculus degrees, or they just demand dollars because if you're a gringo dealing in pesos, you're someone with experience who should be avoided. That's good, because those girls would have given you shitty sessions anyways.
13. Asians are the goddamned wet dream of every single bar girl in the Zona. The overtipping, the lack of grabbiness, and the stereotype of smaller. Weaponry makes them a first choice for most bar girls. Which is funny, because from what I've heard from girls, some Asian guys like to pretend they didn't understand the girl and pay less than what was agreed upon. White guys are next simply because the old ones don't cause too much trouble upstairs due to their age. Black guys, I feel sorry for, because I've seen some guys get shut down by street and bar girls because of their supposed size. Most of the ones I've shared a beer with in the Zona are straight shooters, so it's a shame that so many get dismissed out of hand. Indians, especially turban-sporting Sikhs, are just sideshow oddities for most of the girls who have never seen one on real life. I've seen them there, but never seen one take a girl upstairs. Apparently they are shitty lowball negotiators, according to my sources. Are these generalizations? Yes. Are there anecdotes to the contrary? Of course. I'm just letting it be known to those who have never been there.
I've got more, but this ended up being way too long. Hope a rookie learns something, and veterans don't find too much about.
-MT[/QUOTE]Great observations! That is the Zona we all LOVE / Especially #7!
I love #9.