Manila

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1297480]Again, #1 on my bucket list: a ménage with 2 pretty, bisexual, Asian sisters.[/QUOTE]2 Sisters? Sounds Hot! On my first two days in Phil next week I have arranged a sexual encounter with a pretty 23yr old and her older sister who is 27yrs old. Unfortanately they are not bisexual with eachother but thats ok with me. I've seen their photos and seen them on cam together and they are really sisters. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. They said taking photos is ok so I may post them and then again I might not. I will give an updats later.

Arrived saurday am at about 4am. Thanks CEbu Pacific for never being on time.

At about 9am was meeting up with my 18 year sweet student. She had bought fire engine red 6inch high heels, I provided the red stockings and we had 3 hours of superb fun. Girl has come a long way since being a shy virgin 5 months ago. We were laying in bath having had a marathon sex session some of which we recorded, when I said " what about next time we get someone to record us making love ". She didn't say yes or no.

Later I gave her a present of a small vibrator. She ran into the bedroom and shut the door. I chatted on YM to some future prospects. A little while later she comes out. I thought she was making a " Hi 5 sign " to me. No, she was showing she had had 5 orgasms. Later we recorded her playing with her toy too.

Dropped her off at Market Market (this is a theme in my reports) and waited 20 minutes for the days next plaything, a new girl.

21 year old girl from Taguig with smoking hot body which she had shown me on cam. Head to my place where we had arranged in advance she would be doing some dressing up and picture taking. She wasnt shy showing her body but maybe wondered why I wasnt grabbing it. I was in recovery mode.

AnywayS after many pics I took the pleasure of her nice body, really nice hard tits and ass. She gave me a nice long 10 minute blow that was recorded too. Then dropped her off at Market Market.

Headed to Rogues for a beer or two then to Market Market for number 3. Sweet slim 22 year old that I see every trip. Is only 40kgs and has long slim legs.

We had drinks in Fort area (so hard to get parking now on a Saturday night!) , then had sex on my balcony. Then I left her in bed and headed to Heckle Jeckle for the France Spain game with some friends. Saw most of game but having been up for nearly 24 hours, and having had multiple rounds, I was flagging in energy.

If a city is defined by the people in the city, then Manila is a bad bad bad city. The locals walking around P burgos at 4. 30 am on Saturday / Sunday am were the seediest Filipinos I've ever seen in 25 plus years. Headed to my car and my warm slim friend. We slept, bonked then headed for breakfast then dropped her at Market 2.

Headed to Festival Mall in Alabang to meet another new girl. She had told me her tits were her best asset. Yes they were. She was quite shy but once she was in a bikini and posing I knew all would be fine. Off came the bikini, out came the tits, nice big soft and spongy. 3 hours of play with her and took her back to Festival mall.

Went to Rogues before a scheduled meeting with another repeat girl Sadly the girl tells me she wil be 90 minutes late. Told her I don't do late, so no date.

I wasnt crying about that as a rest was well needed. Had a few beers and headed home and then the sexy student sends me a text, sayingshe wants to be videoed making love with me, and I can I find someone. Spent a long time trying unsuccessfully to find someone even offereing money.

Next day, the student arrives at Market Market, and on arrival in my place, gets into her college uniform. Ah the joys of being a perverted old man LOL. We had a happy 3 hours before she has to head off for college. I wait at Market Market, as a new girl was waiting for me. 23, had sent me bra and pantie pic and had nice looking body. She was shorter than I thought she would be. She looked about average in bikini but somehow looked great when bikini off. We bonked, then slept, then I woke up and she's holding my dick so off we go for another round. 3 hours with her and she gets dropped off.

Had dinner with friends and slept alone and peacefully.

Next day, was working in morning and at lunchtime met another newbie, a girl who had travelled from Tarlac (3 hour trip ). We met, she was nice and slim and a nice girl. We had 2 nice rounds but quite instantly forgettable somehow. Dropped her off and considered what would be my last adventure.

The Saturday afternon girl wanted to come by with her 2 friends and assured me we would all get naked, but she wanted some big money to help with her family situation. Or there was another girl who had been sending me many messages and had the most beautiful smile on cam. Opted for her.

Met her, and she gets in car giving me a big kiss. As we are driving she takes my hand and sticks it on her nipple. Nice one good choice I thought!

Get to my place and she basically takes her top off immediately. Camera comes out and lo and behold, she even has a little lactation going on. Very long hair that later she wrapped around my balls. ! She had a very hairy pussy that she said had NEVER been shaved and it looked like it too. Spent 30 minutes to uncover a very sweet pair of pussy lips underneath. Spent 3 hours with her, that she and I really enjoyed. Dropped her off, well you know where, and headed home.

Packed up, cleaned up, did exhaustive hair and pube check in my place then headed for the joys of Cebu pacific.

So there we are, its 1230 am, and on comes Mr Captain, and he talks for 15 minutes about flying and where we are, where we are heading etc. Amazing and unreal. 15 minutes of inane chatter. Give a Filipino a mike and its hard to get them to shut up LOL. Flight of course was late.

Anyways another great manila trip, similar to all others. Too much sex, not enough sleep.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1297498]2 Sisters? Sounds Hot! On my first two days in Phil next week I have arranged a sexual encounter with a pretty 23yr old and her older sister who is 27yrs old. Unfortanately they are not bisexual with eachother but thats ok with me. I've seen their photos and seen them on cam together and they are really sisters. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. They said taking photos is ok so I may post them and then again I might not. I will give an updats later.[/QUOTE]Maybe cousins at best

[quote=python75; 1297458]i agree totally rk. there really is no need to bullshit about a 'serious relationship' if it is only your intention to fuck them for a few hours in the afternoon or for one night. promises of a serious relationship when the reality is only afternoon delight leaves a bitter taste.

being open and up front that you are only after fun will still pay dividends. sure you will get some knock backs in dia but also considerable success, including referrals. on more than one occasion a contact has replied that sorry, she does not do fun and wants serious relationship only but she knows a neighbour, cousin, etc who will meet for fun. i have met lots of girls through referrals.[/quote]

most men would find the claim that some guys have made here, that it is easy to be honest with filipinas online to get free sex. and that, lots of girls will jump at the chance. you are basically making the following statement to the filipina online:

"i just want to get to know you better so i can come to the philippines and have free sex with you. i also intend to meet other girls in the philippines for free sex. i have no need for you other than to have fun with you and use your body for my sexual enjoyment. after that, i will go back to my country and continue to meet other filipinas online so i can also have free sex with them. i just wanted to be honest with you about all of this."

upon reading or hearing your honest statement, the filipina reponse is:

"oh, thanks so much for being honest with me! i would be happy to provide you with free sex. in fact, "f" me as much as you like and then post my nude pictures on that sex website you go to. i am really happy with the idea that you will be coming to my country to "f" as many filipinas for free as you can. i am truly happy to be a part of your sex vacation and i want you to have fun while you visit my country. i am lucky to meet you, because i have been looking for guys who want to have sex with me and i get zero in return. i may not have much education, but i know a good deal when i see it! i also have friends who would love to meet a guy like you, i will also introduce you to them. thanks so much for being honest with me. you are truly a good and moral man. "

a jury of your peers would find it hard to believe that you are actually being honest with these filipinas and that these girls are happy to have their body used for free sex.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1297690]Maybe cousins at best[/QUOTE]Well when I have them nude I'm going to be thinking sisters.

[quote=undercoverh;1297694]a jury of your peers would find it hard to believe that you are actually being honest with these filipinas and that these girls are happy to have their body used for free sex.[/quote]i think you are taking this to extremes uc.

btw, i never said anything about free sex. everything costs something.

there is a large difference between not telling a filipina the whole truth and telling her a load of lies (deliberately).

if a woman knows you are visiting for a few weeks (or that you live here) and that you are not looking for a serious relationship and she still wants to meet for fun, then that's the end of it.

the best thing is that you can both walk away without any dramas.

I understood the tone of your original post Natty. And I have enough Brit, Irish, Welsh, Scot, Ozzie, and kiwi friends, acquaitances, colleagues to understand their interesting form of sarcastic humor. Nevertheless, thanks for the clarification. X.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1297480]I am sorry X Man that you misunderstood me. My comment was meant to be a sarcastic compliment. I am glad WR got it.

Urban Dictionary: "sarcastic, an adjective, describing a type of humor. People who are sarcastic usually annoy the hell out of everyone who can't get their jokes."

My comment was intended as praise to WR for accomplishing something laudable that very few of us on the forum have been fortunate enough to have experienced. By the standards of western Judeo-Christian puritanical mores and culture, all ISG mongers are sexual deviants or sinners if you prefer. The target of my sarcasm or scorn was the uptight puritanical culture most of us come from not WR.

Again, #1 on my bucket list: a ménage with 2 pretty, bisexual, Asian sisters.[/QUOTE]

that's really over the top under. i meet a gal on "date in asia" and i ask her for a date. i use my "charm" to get her into bed. if i like her, i might take her to the beach. where is the lie? some guys are more upfront than i am, but then you tend to get more of p4p type of gal. i like dating regular women. why would they go with me? well, it's a nice meal and night out that they wouldn't have had otherwise (some are quite poor). maybe they think that there is the chance of something more serious. most women have to kiss a few frogs before they find the "prince".

i'm in regular contact with four women, and in intermittent contact with several others that i've bonked using this "devious?" technique. all of them would probably be ready for another go. there is one, who has performed wonderfully twice, but has put on the pressure that she is not my vacation toy. okay, i'll give her a pass. of course at 29, with a kid, i think she's getting desperate.

when these ladies ask me if i have another girl, i answer,"it's a secret". and let's be honest here, do these gals every lie to us? x.

[quote=undercoverh; 1297694]most men would find the claim that some guys have made here, that it is easy to be honest with filipinas online to get free sex. and that, lots of girls will jump at the chance. you are basically making the following statement to the filipina online:

snip.

a jury of your peers would find it hard to believe that you are actually being honest with these filipinas and that these girls are happy to have their body used for free sex.[/quote]

[QUOTE=X Man; 1297737]nice meal and night out that

When these ladies ask me if I have another girl, I answer,"it's a secret". /QUOTE]You give them a night out? Its Jollibee and straight to the hotel with my girls.

I tell them "I have no one special" and thats for real.

Just ask them if they have a boyfriend.

[QUOTE=Poolmover; 1297687]Crowne Plaza. Not for the budget weary. Has direct entrance from floor 3 from / to Robinsons mall, with Megamall and a few other malls close. Edsa and Ortigas. Discreet and accomodating staff and awesome buffet breakfast included. Rooms from $100 to $200 USD. I never hit the bars because easy is just to pick up lookers at the malls or entice the dia etc girls there. Easy. Ill post more of it in the next day or two, of course as background to what you're really interested in.

Good Luck.

PM[/QUOTE]How on earth did all this discussion about a hotel end up on the PG thread?

I live just 5 mins from Crowne Plaza in Ortigas, and regularly meet friends at Bar 8 which is a bar in the Holiday Inn Galleria (used to be Robinsons Galleria Hotel).

You can get from Crowne Plaza to Robinson's Mall by passing through Holiday Inn into the 3rd or 4th floor of Robinsons Galleria without going outside the building. Holiday Inn is a good option for a place to stay if your budget is a bit stretched. Crowne Plaza is top price and aimed at the ADB /business traveller on an expense account. Seven Corners buffet on the 2nd floor of CP is superb, but not cheap.

Staying at Holiday Inn gives you a very discreet way to bring women into the hotel but you still need to ride the elevator to the room and if you have work mates around then they might still be lurking in either the mall or the elevator when you enter. Gangles has stayed there so maybe he can comment about the current state of the rooms. It is a great mall to meet DIA or other web hookups because most women know Robinsons Galleria as it is opposite the POEA building where all OFWs have to go to get their licenses etc to work abroad and most women have accompanied a family member or friend there at some stage in their lives.

The mall closes at 10pm so the access to the hotel also closes then.

[quote=undercoverh; 1297694]most men would find the claim that some guys have made here, that it is easy to be honest with filipinas online to get free sex. and that, lots of girls will jump at the chance.

a jury of your peers would find it hard to believe that you are actually being honest with these filipinas and that these girls are happy to have their body used for free sex.[/quote]i think you have adopted too much of a literal interpretation of my post, and although i can understand what you are saying it is off the mark.

when discussing 'fun' there is always an underlying implication of a monetary value transaction. when girls agree to meet me for fun they will usually say one of two things:

1) how much will you pay me? or

2) what is your gift to me?

a lot of girls know the score but do not want to portray themselves as prostitutes, and will thus shy away from directly asking for money, but there is a strong expectation on their part that they will receive 'something' whether it is money, clothes, or whatever.

one could of course be an absolute shit and fuck them and then kick them out without giving them anything. but that certainly is not my style.

the other approach which was suggested was to deviously imply that you are after a serious relationship in order to get into the girl's knickers, when in reality you have no such intention. but even that approach would involve money being spent. my own take on that tactic is that it messes with the girl's emotions and leaves them very bitter, and as such it is something that i cannot do. others may not have a problem with it.

and then i guess that leads us to the age old rhetorical question: 'is any sex free?'

Sex is not totally free with exceptions. In the west if you want sex wining and dining is necessary atleast first few times. Cost is definitely more than you pay a hooker.

In poor countries they always expect money. Be nice and give money. Do not just send her away with just taxi money. Do not take advantage of their moral dilemma and naivety!

Only exceptions are if you meet a older woman in any country who has her own money and just needs sex. At her age it is hard for her to get sex.

There is a big difference between not telling the whole truth and telling a lie. Sounds like a little politican is slipping into the retoric with the girls.

Just be honest and don't press for it right away. They all understand what you want as they want it too. Some are just a little bashful to say it out right. As they say you can lead from behind by asking and talking about things that interst them.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1297719]The best thing is that you can both walk away without any dramas.[/QUOTE]There is always drama irrespective of what was discussed before. Last visit me and my contact who is 19 year old agreed on chat that I am free to do whatever I want when she is staying with me. Well, I am not low enough to bring another girl to the room and have sex in front of her.

However when we went for breakfast there were two girls sitting at the next table. Both are obviously P4P girls brought in by some other punter. Probably he gave these girls the two breakfast toickets you get per day.

Anyway while my girl was getting food they started asking me if she is my gf and I said no. They wanted to know my room number and I told them. I told them not to come to my room because I do not want problems with my current live in.

This was noticed by the girl and when she came back she started asking me why I talked to the girls. They have left by this time. I told her that they wanted to know if she is my gf and my room number.

In the room there was a big jealous fit. I reminded her what we discussed before. She flatly said now she is in love with me and do not want me to talk to other girls.

I assured her that I will never have sex with anybody else when she is with me.

At least you were honest with her when she asked and you did not take them up on their advances from the other two.

IF people talk to me I reply. Case closed