FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Myrmidon;1715352]
Also the famous / infamous blonde Saskia, looking like she had just stepped out of a fashion model shoot! Incredible beauty who divides her time between the VLTs and the Smoking lounge. [/QUOTE]Wow, and I thought I should be careful about exaggeration. Never understood why Saskia could be so popular. Can't see where the beauty is. Rather big and mature build. I guess okay In the MILF category. Had a session with her once out of curiosity but wasn't worth a repeat, to me. Did not enjoy the BJ. Maybe she was just grumpy that day. Nicholetta was a better session for me. At least Saskia was far better than fattie Stella, who was champion of the restrictive and bad.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1716125]Wow, and I thought I should be careful about exaggeration. Never understood why Saskia could be so popular. Can't see where the beauty is. Rather big and mature build. I guess okay In the MILF category. Had a session with her once out of curiosity but wasn't worth a repeat, to me. Did not enjoy the BJ. Maybe she was just grumpy that day. Nicholetta was a better session for me. At least Saskia was far better than fattie Stella, who was champion of the restrictive and bad.[/QUOTE]Each one his taste, you mean Stella. De is fat? If she was OK for kissing, I ran in room for her 1 year ago, so pretty face and smile when she came to me, before her "beurk!"

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1716125]Wow, and I thought I should be careful about exaggeration. Never understood why Saskia could be so popular. Can't see where the beauty is. Rather big and mature build. I guess okay In the MILF category. Had a session with her once out of curiosity but wasn't worth a repeat, to me. Did not enjoy the BJ. Maybe she was just grumpy that day. Nicholetta was a better session for me. At least Saskia was far better than fattie Stella, who was champion of the restrictive and bad.[/QUOTE]OK, maybe I do exaggerate a tad. (you try coming from this sterile environment to a FKK once a year and not be blown away, even just a bit).

And don't forget, there are those of us who prefer MILFs over young spinners! Just because you prefer one, does not automatically make the other, and those that prefer them, bad. I did several youthful spinners and enjoyed them. But I still prefer the other.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1715916]As bad rep the Palace has in many forum.

In Japanese blogs and forums, Palace indeed have reputation of upsell and some report of ripped off charge (I read that one guy got charged 100 euro for 30 min / one shot) etc. , but as for looks of the girl, at least in Japanese forums, Palace has the best review. I mean it comes down to taste of course, but both girls I met in Artemis from palace (Juli / Joy and Kimmi from Berlin) were smoking beauty blondes, so maybe that makes sense, and yes they both upsell.[/QUOTE]Funny that you use Japanese forum to read about the girls in Palace and Artemis, I assume you are Asian yourself.

Well the Japanese goes for fake blond girls and care less about the service, like kissing and GFE stuff.

The Asians are too shy to negotiate with girls so the they just pay the price even like 100€/30 mins.

This trick would never happen with us / me.

At Oase I sometimes saw a tourist bus full of Japanese, they stick together in groups like shy kids and when the group leader told them to pick a girls they do that with out any chit chat. After 1-2 hours the group left again, so apparently FKK is just another tourist attraction for tour bus. LOL.

The girls know this and take advantage of these easy tourists.

The same issue with Palace why should the girls provide good service to tourists they would never see again? I would do the same if I worked as a WG at Palace, LOL.

[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716239]Funny that you use Japanese forum to read about the girls in Palace and Artemis, I assume you are Asian yourself.

Well the Japanese goes for fake blond girls and care less about the service, like kissing and GFE stuff.

The Asians are too shy to negotiate with girls so the they just pay the price even like 100/30 mins.

This trick would never happen with us / me.

At Oase I sometimes saw a tourist bus full of Japanese, they stick together in groups like shy kids and when the group leader told them to pick a girls they do that with out any chit chat. After 1-2 hours the group left again, so apparently FKK is just another tourist attraction for tour bus. LOL.

The girls know this and take advantage of these easy tourists.

The same issue with Palace why should the girls provide good service to tourists they would never see again? I would do the same if I worked as a WG at Palace, LOL.[/QUOTE]Lots of the Asian tourists that shows up are likely infrequent visitors. And likely, there are high percentage of them is the reason why such a preconceived notions exists. I'd have to agree, Oase would be the club that Asian would be into, the looks of the girls probably hits the spot (blond, white skin, some petite, short, GND). I have met some frequent visitors, and of course since they have some experience under their belt, they become familiarized with what goes on in the clubs. Some have been around for years, and know all the ins and outs (pun intended. LOL.) of things. At GT, you don't see as much tourist Asians, and I believe is like that for NRW in general. I've met Japanese at the NRW, and they know what's up. Matter a fact, one introduced me to ACA way back. Hessen, is more draw for tourists than some remote NRW clubs, so you'd see more of those types.

It's language barrier for some (as I've witness this when there as an uproar as the girl probably charged every extra and non-extra possible), just lack of visits, and not being familiarized with what is standard pricing, and probably like any other first time tourist, a kid in a candy store. LOL.

Here is one of many:

[URL]http://pinsalo.info/papers/yya_fzk.htm[/URL]

I agree with most of you guys about Asians, but there are some experienced punters as well. However, it is always between girl and you, so it is better to talk things through before the room and always offer some incentive like if first thirty minute is delivered as promised I will extend it to one hour.

Yeah girls should provide good service for 30 minuted for 50 euro, but it is what it is, so if one hour can do the trick to get me what I want and also give me two shots, then what a heck. They are there for money and I don't allow rip off, but I am willing to corporate to what girls want only IF she provide me what I want in exchange for my money based on set price by house rule.

I do not expect girls to do all for 50 euro also though. Plus once you get to know them, they will give you good full service for 50 euro, some just always give, but these girls are becoming rare and rare and I go for looks, so it is hard to find ones that give all for 50 euro plus I ask a lot from girls.

I never take girls for hours and hours though, max is 1.5 hours for 2 or 3 shots, I cannot stay with one girl for longer than 1.5 hours.

Yeah these Asian tourist getting ripped off affect me as they see me and they think I am easy prey, well I ain't, though I am willing to go for one hour as long as they give me service and I repeat girls if she is good, so it is hard all the time to convey this to girls as I say this few times a day, every day from late afternoon till midnight when I am in FKK LOL I feel like I am being sales man to convey what I offer LOL.

I conclude best stunners I found was both are girls from palace, but I found them in Artemis during summer, as for looks they were the best as they were real life barbie doll you got my taste right guys but I like real blonde not colored ones.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1716709]Here is one of many:

[URL]http://pinsalo.info/papers/yya_fzk.htm[/URL]


Yeah these Asian tourist getting ripped off [/QUOTE]Ah yes, exactly my opinion. LOL.

[QUOTE]　空港からSharksのあるダムルムシュタットまで空港バスで22分、7.75Eです。バスは30分に1本出ています。今回は、Sharksから徒歩5分のところにホテルを取りましたので、ダルムシュタット駅からホテルまでが、タクシーでチップを入れて10Eでした。バスは朝の4時から動いているので、ホテルを予約しなくても、Sharksの閉店（金土が朝5時まで、平日は4時まで）まで粘って、タクシーで駅まで連れて行ってもらい、そこから空港バスでフランクフルト空港まで行けば、片道20Eで、ホテル宿泊不要です。体力のある方は頑張ってください。但し、タクシーの運ちゃんはなんらかの理由（バスはもう無いとか）をつけて、フランクの中央駅や空港まで連れて行きたがるので、注意が必要です。
　ホテルでシャワーを浴び、装備を確認（現金、バイ、ガム、今回は傘も）して、いざ出陣です。2、3分も歩けば、Sharksの看板が見えてきました[/QUOTE]In all the clubs first time visitors are informed about the basic pricing and told to talk to the girl about everything else in advance. A lot of Asians don't. That may be the language, may be the culture, whatever. Many Asians are good customers for the girls as they are not too demanding and usually not hung like a horse (LOL, another stereotype here).

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1716811]Ah yes, exactly my opinion. LOL.

In all the clubs first time visitors are informed about the basic pricing and told to talk to the girl about everything else in advance. A lot of Asians don't. That may be the language, may be the culture, whatever. Many Asians are good customers for the girls as they are not too demanding and usually not hung like a horse (LOL, another stereotype here).

HB[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right, we are more shy race, especially us Japanese are. And also most of us have language barrier. It is not my case though, but I do get stereo typed and I have to convey to girls that I am worth giving goo service for this and that reasons etc. Few times a day to different girls I go with, same story day after LOL, so me too get suffered by my fellow Asians willingness or tendency to get ripped off in FKK.

However, good service girls always give good service and non provider. You can always deal with increasing sessions or taking CIM or ANAL offer, but I never give tips upon their request. I do give however when I very rarely meet some girls who just gives exceptional service without me asking her to do so, it has been only few times though as mostly they do not gives exceptional service unless you demand.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1716811]Ah yes, exactly my opinion. LOL.

In all the clubs first time visitors are informed about the basic pricing and told to talk to the girl about everything else in advance. A lot of Asians don't. That may be the language, may be the culture, whatever. Many Asians are good customers for the girls as they are not too demanding and usually not hung like a horse (LOL, another stereotype here).

HB[/QUOTE]I understood, they mention Euros and Sharks in Japanese, LOL.

Italians and Turks are famous for coming very quick, (all girls would say so, another stereotype) LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1716709]. However, it is always between girl and you, so it is better to talk things through before the room and always offer some incentive like if first thirty minute is delivered as promised I will extend it to one hour.[/QUOTE]Funny my style is now less and less negotiation about the service, I tell the girls about what I like and I ask her what she likes, I never discussed the time and price either, I say I like longer sessions if it good.

So sometime we end up with 2 hour even with new girls. I'm a quite relaxed person that can make the girls laugh, I have a style that shows I'm easygoing but absolutely not newbie, I've been with 1000+ women.

So I guess the girls can sense my experience level.

[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1716914]Funny my style is now less and less negotiation about the service, I tell the girls about what I like and I ask her what she likes, I never discussed the time and price either, I say I like longer sessions if it good.

So sometime we end up with 2 hour even with new girls. I'm a quite relaxed person that can make the girls laugh, I have a style that shows I'm easygoing but absolutely not newbie, I've been with 1000+ women.

So I guess the girls can sense my experience level.[/QUOTE]Yes, being friendly is good things and I do negotiate with sense of humor that does not sound negotiation, but in the end, I am Asian LOL, so I got to make sure convey I ain't other Asian LOL Other wise I got to pay 100 euro for 30 min or something along that line of service.

Plus when bad service happen in the room it is too late to fix and kill the momentum on both parties. , so I got to make sure before I go to the room, though sometimes if it is just 30 min session I don't bother I do hit and run like 20 min sex and done.

But palace girls I met in Artemis were always hot stunner, but they all up sell, however, kimmin from Berlin gave me best service ever in FKK and she was palace girl.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1716278]Lots of the Asian tourists that shows up are likely infrequent visitors. And likely, there are high percentage of them is the reason why such a preconceived notions exists. I'd have to agree, Oase would be the club that Asian would be into, the looks of the girls probably hits the spot (blond, white skin, some petite, short, GND). I have met some frequent visitors, and of course since they have some experience under their belt, they become familiarized with what goes on in the clubs. Some have been around for years, and know all the ins and outs (pun intended. LOL.) of things. At GT, you don't see as much tourist Asians, and I believe is like that for NRW in general. I've met Japanese at the NRW, and they know what's up. Matter a fact, one introduced me to ACA way back. Hessen, is more draw for tourists than some remote NRW clubs, so you'd see more of those types.

It's language barrier for some (as I've witness this when there as an uproar as the girl probably charged every extra and non-extra possible), just lack of visits, and not being familiarized with what is standard pricing, and probably like any other first time tourist, a kid in a candy store. LOL.[/QUOTE]The way Japanese monger has effected other parts of the world, for example Thailand, for several years now, the top gogo's in Nana plaza and Cowboy are for Japanese customers, also true of several clubs in Pattaya, the reason the girls like them is 4-4-4 which is 4 inches, 4 minutes and 4,000 baht, they pay whatever the girl wants, as it's cheaper than Tokyo, this spoils it for the rest as now the girls want big money for quick ST with Asian customer.

[QUOTE=Myrmidon;1715375] Others, including Annabell, the slim 24 year old Romanian GND with long kinky blonde hair, remembered me and were impressed when I greeted them by name.

But in the end, young Annabell, who I had only fancied the first time, was able to persuade me to try one more time. Again I figured that even if I didn't finish, the ride would be worth it. It started well but I began to falter. Annabell noticed this and shifted gears. Before I knew it, I had my first 3 shot day in a long time.

Palace. Annabelle.[/QUOTE]Myrmidon, is the attached pictures of your Annabelle? If so, then she is hot and very good in the room and you wise to select her for the room even though you were flagging.

[QUOTE=Dufey;1718377]Myrmidon, is the attached pictures of your Annabelle? If so, then she is hot and very good in the room and you wise to select her for the room even though you were flagging.[/QUOTE]I can not comment on the photo's resemblance to the lady I was with.

But yes, the lady that I knew as Annabelle:

[QUOTE]is hot and very good....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jerboa;1717799]The way Japanese monger has effected other parts of the world, for example Thailand, for several years now, the top gogo's in Nana plaza and Cowboy are for Japanese customers, also true of several clubs in Pattaya, the reason the girls like them is 4-4-4 which is 4 inches, 4 minutes and 4,000 baht, they pay whatever the girl wants, as it's cheaper than Tokyo, this spoils it for the rest as now the girls want big money for quick ST with Asian customer.[/QUOTE]4 inches? Don't they use metric system? LOL.