German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115460]In FKK's some girls makes a lot of money while other girls don't make much at all. So a few rules of thumb I have while in Germany is to share the wealth to some degree. For a long time I always had one holy rule I had to stick to. I had to try out one new girl every single day at an FKK. Lately I have started staying in Germany / aut / NL for longer periods. Average trips for me now is 5 days compared to previous 3-4 day average. So now I have lessened that to at least trying 3 new girls per trip of 5 days, or 5 new girls on a 1 week trip. The rest I can make repeats at.

The biggest mistake one can make at an FKK is to have a girl feel she owns you. Then service falls, and she may sometimes feel eligible to upsell you to longer rooms.[/QUOTE]You know me and I don't agree with you, better for me to have only 1 girl in 1 club to get the best from her, then no jealousy, no do you behave the same with her? WGs and many guys are jealous, reason why I don't name anymore some of my top girls, but I get what I want from my girls, with my strategy and my manners, I get the prettiest for my tastes, so it's just OK for me since 5 years. When it doesn't work anymore, next one to play again, married only for the good.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2115432]... In the West, things are already not so stark and current trends are that more women are enrolling in colleges, so in 20 years from now it is quite possible that women in the West feel they don't need to marry because why do they need to support men? [/QUOTE]Quite the reverse if things develop like in the US where women make up 2/3rd of the students' loan debt while not being able to repay the loans because they major in useless subjects. Men either avoid college or major in STEMs so are better able to repay the loans and earn money.

Another reason for men to avoid college is of course the kangaroo courts expelling men for alleged sexual assault at the slightest accusation. Women will more and more find themselves in the company of other women wasting their time taking mickey mouse degrees and running up huge debts that will eventually be paid off by Father State (men's tax money).

Women are often only in the workforce because employers are required by law to employ them. No employer in his right mind would ever employ a woman if he could help it. Women are very expensive what with maternity leave, long term sickness, faked invalidity and sexual assault shenanigans.

I don't see men's and women's roles reversing. I see creeping islamization ending in strict sex segregation of the sexes in the distant future. This endpoint will be welcome because it will come after P4P has been criminalized the world over to such an extent that men will not even try any more. Sexbots might alter this vision of the future but the future of sexbots is still murky.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2115432]In many Western societies, women are already a substantial part of workforce. While they are not yet making as much as the men on a society-wide basis, fact is that many women are already making more than men. I personally know several families in which the man is making less than his wife, or even a few where the man had to abandon his career to run the household and raise the kids because wife was making more $$ and they needed one spouse to take care of kids.

So, the members commenting from Asia and third word (where women are generally relegated to lower level roles) may feel it is better not to marry because in their experience man provides for the woman. In the West, things are already not so stark and current trends are that more women are enrolling in colleges, so in 20 years from now it is quite possible that women in the West feel they don't need to marry because why do they need to support men?

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/[/QUOTE]Not to mention that many HR recruitment personnel hire women ahead of men based on looks. And looks only. In more and more jobs seeing most jobs in society is simple as hell. That goes for among other things lawyer jobs. Like this lawyer HR guy I know told me about. He didn't care shot about grades. Everything could be done by a retard these days.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2115706]For me it's very, very simple. I fuck who I want to in the club when I want to. And that's it! I don't like a bunch of unnecessary complications in my life. That would make going to the FKKs less fun![/QUOTE]Well said, we go to FKK to avoid drams and related complication of relationships and most importantly to have sex, so right on.

[QUOTE=XXL;2115789]Quite the reverse if things develop like in the US where women make up 2/3rd of the students' loan debt while not being able to repay the loans because they major in useless subjects. Men either avoid college or major in STEMs so are better able to repay the loans and earn money.
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Let's say 52% of students are female. So if they carry 66% of the student debt, doesn't seem that disproportionate.

Males vs Females pay gap in USA is 17.9 percent. In other words, male might make $100K whereas female makes $82K. So middle class to upper-middle class men shouldn't be getting raped in a divorce settlement, especially in some OECD nations, where the gap is as low as 6% [url]https://www.statista.com/chart/4279/the-gender-pay-gap-in-developed-nations-visualised/[/url].

There is a significant pay gap when you only look at highest earners. In the UK, there were 10,200 who earn more than a million pounds a year, but only 920 are women. These men would get raped by the divorce settlement. [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11414131/Female-millionaires-are-on-the-rise-but-men-still-way-ahead.html[/url]

This chart lists the ten most popular degrees amongst millionaires. While engineering is the second most popular at 10 percent, the only other STEM degree in the list is computer science at 2 percent, so 88 percent of millionaires have mickey mouse degrees [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/21/want-to-be-fabulously-wealthy-heres-the-degree-youll-need/[/url] .

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2115676]Or the opposite may happen. Over a certain period. Better service. Free extras. Longer rooms for standard rates. YMMV.[/QUOTE]True but eventually it goes back down. Free extras sometimes have other attachments like exclusivity. I think mathematically, it's a bell curve where why is the quality of service and X is time. The tail ends show the extremes, time spent with the girl too long or too short, in the middle is where the best quality is optimal with some investment of time. That's where I try to get with the few girls I really enjoy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115460]In FKK's some girls makes a lot of money while other girls don't make much at all. So a few rules of thumb I have while in Germany is to share the wealth to some degree. For a long time I always had one holy rule I had to stick to. I had to try out one new girl every single day at an FKK. Lately I have started staying in Germany / aut / NL for longer periods. Average trips for me now is 5 days compared to previous 3-4 day average. So now I have lessened that to at least trying 3 new girls per trip of 5 days, or 5 new girls on a 1 week trip. The rest I can make repeats at.

The biggest mistake one can make at an FKK is to have a girl feel she owns you. Then service falls, and she may sometimes feel eligible to upsell you to longer rooms.

Sometimes I skip one of my favourites for a visit or two also. It doesn't mean I dislike her or are tired of her pussy, but it means that I am a free soul. If the options are not around for reserve girls, or if I have already depleted the current lineup, its time to move on and visit another club. Can even leave at 9 or 10 pm to go to another club. Preferably I feelt it can be best to rotate a minimum of 5 favourite girls for repeat levels in one club. If you do 3 of them per visit.

The saying is if you want to marry a girl, you should be committed and show faithfullness first. Then her ring finger will come later. You cannot demand the ring finger before you first show your commitment. But this is FKK land, and in my opinion the rules change when we pay. So even if I skip a favourite for 1 or 2 visits, I can still love her / them. I just share the love and wealth as a free person with no ring attached.

So, any other inputs on this? What is your strategy?[/QUOTE]New girls are great, but I cannot find new girls recently as I do not see many stunners added to line up like it used to few years ago LOL.

I still got Hamburg as I never been there, so all girls there should be more or less new for me and as long as there are one or two stunners in LU in each FKK there, it is all good trip for me, so in this sense, I am looking forward to 2018 trip to Hamburg!

XXL. I am far from sure if your vision is correct, but it is one of those posts which sets out something with such clarity that it becomes to appear very credible.

It seems to me that there will be an increase in an almost apartheid division as some areas of work become more and more exclusively female. Men will continue to retain a separate culture but this will not necessarily be work based. Gone are the days when I thought the two sexes would be working together in equally. Mixed sex working seems to be becoming increasingly bitter.

Of course as The Cane said this doesn't mean the end of relationships.

Optimists adjust to reality :)

To add to McA's excellent points, I would add that pay gap is closing all the time. Average pay is computed for all workers in the population, which by definition includes a lot of middle aged and older workers. In those age brackets women were educated less relative to men. Today, the gender gap has closed in universities. That gets reflected in pay gap closing in the future.

And women today are almost in the majority in law schools in the US, and in medical schools the gender balance is almost neutral. It is only in engineering and CS that men hold a distinct advantage. But over there, it is all the immigrants that dominate. Go to any company in Silicon Valley and row upon row in the aisles have Asian names.

As for Islamists, they hold equally disdainful view of women. In truly Islamic societies women are not even allowed to study, and required to service their men from birth to death. A couple of times I fucked Turkish girls just so that I could claim I fucked a Moslem. LOL.

About half a year ago I read an article regarding the increasing gap between men and women in a few British universities. They were not 52-48%, but 75-25%. 75% female that is. So it is cumming. Question is just how many jobs there will be in the future. How innovative will women in the future become, and will there be a backlash? Like I mentioned regarding the lawyer recruitment, people at least in Europe don't look at grades at all. In the USA they look more at which university you have gone to. More because of networking than due to actual grades I assume as well.

[URL]https://www.thecut.com/2017/05/testosterone-men-dumber.html[/URL]

So in order for men to get on level with women in regards to grades and performance, we need to lower our testosterone levels. How we do that is simple: sex!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2115821]...Everything could be done by a retard these days...[/QUOTE]This is quite offensive, especially because it insults people much less able to defend themselves.

[QUOTE=XXL;2115789]Quite the reverse if things develop like in the US where women make up 2/3rd of the students' loan debt while not being able to repay the loans because they major in useless subjects. Men either avoid college or major in STEMs so are better able to repay the loans and earn money.

Women take out loans at only a few percentage points more than men. It's because they get paid less that they take longer to pay back, and thus make up 2/3 of those with outstanding debt. [/QUOTE]If "useless" means "pays less" then perhaps you are partially right. But what they are studying is not useless at all if you recognize the social contribution they make. Plus note the following because the numbers aren't as one-sided as you imply:

75% of degrees awarded in Health, Education, And Social Work go to women. These jobs pay less than other college grad jobs. But calling that work "useless" is foolishness.

60% of degrees awarded in Art, Communications, And Languages go to women. This is not a huge margin over men, and again, imagine life with competence in the population in these areas slashed by more than half.

The number of women graduating in math and science is about half. But women skew more towards life sciences, and men towards physical sciences.

The number of women graduating with business degrees is about half.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/28/359419934/who-studies-what-men-women-and-college-majors[/URL]

[QUOTE=XXL;2115789] Another reason for men to avoid college is of course the kangaroo courts expelling men for alleged sexual assault at the slightest accusation. Women will more and more find themselves in the company of other women wasting their time taking mickey mouse degrees and running up huge debts that will eventually be paid off by Father State (men's tax money). [/QUOTE]This is a total myth propagated by the likes of Rush Limbaugh. If anything men are *protected* by universities when they commit sexual assault. The tendency is to cover up and deal with it internally. Meanwhile off campus men accused with sexual abuse are handed over to the criminal justice system for much harsher treatment.

[QUOTE=XXL;2115789] Women are often only in the workforce because employers are required by law to employ them. No employer in his right mind would ever employ a woman if he could help it. Women are very expensive what with maternity leave, long term sickness, faked invalidity and sexual assault shenanigans.

I don't see men's and women's roles reversing. I see creeping islamization ending in strict sex segregation of the sexes in the distant future. [/QUOTE]You are on the wrong side of history. It bends towards justice. Men and women will be fine together, although throwbacks like you *will* increasingly be left isolated.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2116055][URL]https://www.thecut.com/2017/05/testosterone-men-dumber.html[/URL]

So in order for men to get on level with women in regards to grades and performance, we need to lower our testosterone levels. How we do that is simple: sex![/QUOTE]Man, find stunner, and just take ciaris or Viagra, and be sure your dick do not get cut like I once did last year, then no need for complication to increase male hormone.

The most hard part is to find new stunner, I have been fucking same stunner now for almost one year. 80% of my sessions are with same girl.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2115722]Men and women are always going to need each other as partners of some sort. For women, it isn't so much about taking care of a man as it is about taking care of her kids. It's easy to be a deadbeat dad and walk away, but no so easy for a woman to do that. She birthed those kids, and they are with her. If she isn't working and staying at home, then she needs somebody out there being the breadwinner and providing for her and those kids. And if she is working, well the need for childcare doesn't go away, and the cost of that is so expensive that it can easily suck up virtually all of her income. So again, often times there needs to be that other breadwinner who can provide. Unless, maybe it's a Mr. Mom who stays home and takes care of the kids. There are guys out there doing that, but at least in the United States, that's the exception rather than the rule. Either the man goes to work and the woman stays home, or they both work and one's salary goes to pay for high daycare costs. But any way you cut it, men need women and women need men. At some level one way or the other.[/QUOTE]Well said, and observed. It pretty much explain the economical side of why birthrates are going down in many developed countries including mine.

However, as for me, it is more being rational and practical about lifestyle, I mean there is no other place I found my place than when I am in Germany putting my face between ass crack of some young beautiful stunner FKK girl, I found my place there, so being true to what I really want, I decided to be professional monger who cannot get enough of beautiful girls.