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SA is definitely better for the hookers as they can charge 15,000 pesos, get dinner and drinks for another 5,000 pesos at TGIF or similar, and taxi money roundtrip. That is in addition to the 4,000 pesos monthly membership fee.

Hence, all in, the monger is looking at paying about 26,000 pesos for a fuck without being able to examine the girl for stretch marks and saggy tits as possible in a bikini bar for much cheaper. In the bikini bar, mongers get to poke and prod the meat, look in the mouth for missing teeth, sniff for dog breath, gauge willingness to fuck, ask direct questions about fuck like finger in her asshole during doggy-style, etc. The girl knows her job is to fuck and expectations are clear before leaving the bar. All this for much less than 26,000 pesos.

I just do not see value in SA for mongers flying in from Europe or North America to fuck in the Philippines for $520 USD per fuck. Especially taking into account the expense and aggravation of a long flight and the risk of the girl being a lame fuck or having a stretch-marked body, see-section scar, droopy tits, or dog breath.

A monger with $520 USD to pay for a fuck from SA would be better off using that money to fuck college girls in Europe or North America and forego the long flight. It appears that the Filipinas just looked at whatever the American girls were charging for a fuck and decided that would be the appropriate price to charge knuckleheads in the Philippines. LOL!

As for shopping, I can think of better things to do for 10,000 pesos than carrying around shopping bags for a paid tart, as she does her damn best to charge jewelry, luxury handbags and Jimmy Choo shoes on my credit card. There is no need to pay for that kind of annoyance. Just get a real girlfriend. At least you will get unlimited fucks without time limits that come from the SA hooker girlfriend who needs to get to her next trick on schedule.

SA just seems like an expensive way to share an overpriced Flip hooker with hundreds of other mongers, instead of going to AC and sharing her with a trike driver for 3,000 pesos.

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I used SA a lot back home. I found out that the expectation asked for was usually open to discussion. Lots of girls there asked for the moon and the stars but accepted an offer of considerably less.

It was a good way for an old fart like me to get girls 30 to 40 years younger. And yes I had 18 year olds in Canada who actually wanted to be with an older guy. Found a lot of the same issues as any other site, some fakes and scammers everywhere so do your due diligence.

I reactivated my membership, updated my profile and yes the girls appear to be a lot higher quality than PL, Tinder et al, I found over a thousand girls who had been on line in the last 2 weeks meaning that there was lots to pick from. (non-smoking and within 400 kms of Manila).

While home, with a membership I did browse the Manila ladies and actually chatted with a couple from here. They had wanted substantial amounts, When asked they were asking in p not $ so they thought that 10,000 a month was 10 k p not $US10,000.

Ignore their stated expectations, offer what you want to provide and let them accept or reject. If they reject then say good bye and if they accept then the fun is on. (Good advice for any girl anywhere.) Better yet have them make their offer first, often they will ask less than you were prepared to provide.

As always ignore their stated body size and stats and look at the pictures. Average to them can mean average for a western woman, average for a pina or they have no idea what to put down so picked one at random. While looking at the pictures also look at the background, you can often learn a lot about her from where the picture was taken. Use tineye or other image search to get some assurance that the pictures are real.

Also you should be aware that when your membership expires you cannot read ANY past messages sent to you. If you want to keep any message history download or make a copy before your membership runs out.

I love that line the scammers put in. Reminds me of the kindly fox asking the chickens to invite him in. I am amazed at SA but I guess the main benefit of such sites is sociological study. I am chatting with a few obvious working girls on PL now and some of them work very hard.

I have jacked off into Live Jasmine performers previously and they tell me fascinating stories. Many of the WG no longer stomp the streets as they make more money on LJ, which is the best of those sites for them. The software tells them such things as your tipping history so they know if you are worth engaging with or not.

Those I fed with my leche tell me they have bought all kinds of goods, enhanced boobs included, form their work which can net them over $2000 US a month if they are any good. Two of those I fucked lived at home with their beloved families and contributes nothing, not even food money. For the curious, I met them on PL and similar sites and have never paid for Live Jasmine or similar. I don; t get why folk are into some tart performing online but other mileages obviously differ.

I've got some messages on FilCu that I want to keep so that I don't get members mixed up next time I visit. However, the site shows that they delete messages after 2 months.

Does anyone know how to export messages out of FC or stop the deletion process? There has to be a better way than repeated copy / paste??

When FC do delete old messages do they delete the whole conversation or just the old chats?

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2134215]I've got some messages on FilCu that I want to keep so that I don't get members mixed up next time I visit. However, the site shows that they delete messages after 2 months.

Does anyone know how to export messages out of FC or stop the deletion process? There has to be a better way than repeated copy / paste??
.[/QUOTE]Just cut / paste the key pieces of info, name, handle, cp#, viber etc Keep in yor own documents folder.

BD.

Early this month I reported on my experience using SeekingArrangement (SA) in Manila. After leaving Manila I spent 4 days in Bohol with one of my girls then Cebu for about 12 days. I used SA to fill my dance card in Cebu and the results where pretty damn good.

Meet a 28 yo slim and beautiful girl who is a professional chef. Beautiful face, slim + full figure. Solid 8 body and 8 face. Never married, no kids. Chatted online a bit and she tells me she has done arrangements 2-3 times. She didn't want to negotiate price, but left it up to me to figure out. We meet at Blue Elephant rooftop bar and really hit it off. Great chemistry. Back to my airbnb condo and we start making out. Move to bedroom and before I can get her on the bed she drops to her knees and gives me an amazing BJ. Hit the bed and we go at it for hours. She is super horny. Stays the night. Slip her some fancy choc and 3000. Repeated with her 3 other nights including a Sat-Sun overnight to Crimson resort. She never mentions the money and I just slip her 3000 each time when she lives. Also gave her a nice bottle of wine I brought from CA on the last day.

Meet a 22 yo super slim lingerie model. She sends me her selfie pics and also her lingerie pics. Wow! I'm normally skeptical about such great pics but I have a good vibe and decide to roll the dice with her. She turns out to be a super super hottie. Probably top 5 hottest girls I've had. A solid 9/9. Pre-negotiate 3000 over chat. She comes over direct to condo (doesn't want to meet for dinner). She is exactly like her pictures! Within 5 minutes we are pulling our clothes off. Super horny and incredible in bed. After we both cum and relax for 5 minutes she starts getting dressed and wants to leave. WTF? I try to talk her out of it as I could go a few more rounds with her hotness, but she calmly declines. I gave her the 3 k as agreed but no extra for taxi.

Also met 2 different call center girls from Tinder and those where not quite as pretty but super horny and were happy with dinner and taxi money.

Last night in Cebu spent with 2 girl threesome recommended by WR (thank you! Had a really great time with both girls. Great way to end a long trip!

All in all there was only 1 girl on SA who asked for more than 3000 in Cebu. In Manila all the super hotties where at 5 k - 20 k.

What is PL, DIA and other sites. I have used SA for Medellin and found one really good connection.

Looking at making the long haul to PI and want to do some more research.

I found the post with the websites. I read the friendly forum RTFF.

[QUOTE=MangoKing;2135251]Early this month I reported on my experience using SeekingArrangement (SA) in Manila. After leaving Manila I spent 4 days in Bohol with one of my girls then Cebu for about 12 days. I used SA to fill my dance card in Cebu and the results where pretty damn good.

Meet a 28 yo slim and beautiful girl who is a professional chef. Beautiful face, slim + full figure. Solid 8 body and 8 face. Never married, no kids. Chatted online a bit and she tells me she has done arrangements 2-3 times. She didn't want to negotiate price, but left it up to me to figure out. We meet at Blue Elephant rooftop bar and really hit it off. Great chemistry. Back to my airbnb condo and we start making out. Move to bedroom and before I can get her on the bed she drops to her knees and gives me an amazing BJ. Hit the bed and we go at it for hours. She is super horny. Stays the night. Slip her some fancy choc and 3000. Repeated with her 3 other nights including a Sat-Sun overnight to Crimson resort. She never mentions the money and I just slip her 3000 each time when she lives. Also gave her a nice bottle of wine I brought from CA on the last day..[/QUOTE]Good report! Good nice to hear some new ways to meet girls.

[QUOTE=MangoKing;2135251]Early this month I reported on my experience using SeekingArrangement (SA) in Manila. After leaving Manila I spent 4 days in Bohol with one of my girls then Cebu for about 12 days. I used SA to fill my dance card in Cebu and the results where pretty damn good.

Meet a 28 yo slim and beautiful girl who is a professional chef. Beautiful face, slim + full figure. Solid 8 body and 8 face. Never married, no kids. Chatted online a bit and she tells me she has done arrangements 2-3 times. She didn't want to negotiate price, but left it up to me to figure out. We meet at Blue Elephant rooftop bar and really hit it off. Great chemistry. Back to my airbnb condo and we start making out. Move to bedroom and before I can get her on the bed she drops to her knees and gives me an amazing BJ. Hit the bed and we go at it for hours. She is super horny. Stays the night. Slip her some fancy choc and 3000. Repeated with her 3 other nights including a Sat-Sun overnight to Crimson resort. She never mentions the money and I just slip her 3000 each time when she lives. Also gave her a nice bottle of wine I brought from CA on the last day..[/QUOTE]At 20,000 PHP or $400 USD for a fuck in Manila, the monger must be fucking well-known celebrity actresses from the popular telenovelas. Otherwise, he is the victim of an unbelievable fleecing! Even English landlords charging tenants for rent get a better deal.

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I hit the SA jackpot. She is 21, cute as a button with the tight spinner body I lust after. She loves to fuck and suck. Made a live in arrangement with her for 10 k a month, she was actually reluctant to take that but I'the rather she had her own pocket money and not be always hitting me up for load, and sundry items. She is educated and looking for work so not a gold digger or scammer. (Yes I have checked out her background as much as I can and believe what she has been telling me, it is fits together and she would have to be a world class actress to end up being a scammer after our time together so far.).

They are out there. Just have to keep hunting.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2135688]I hit the SA jackpot. She is 21, cute as a button with the tight spinner body I lust after. She loves to fuck and suck. Made a live in arrangement with her for 10 k a month, she was actually reluctant to take that but I'the rather she had her own pocket money and not be always hitting me up for load, and sundry items. She is educated and looking for work so not a gold digger or scammer. (Yes I have checked out her background as much as I can and believe what she has been telling me, it is fits together and she would have to be a world class actress to end up being a scammer after our time together so far.).

They are out there. Just have to keep hunting.[/QUOTE]KG, congrats on your new arrangement. It is none of my business or anyone else's what you pay or provide for your arrangement. Of course I would want her to be treated decent.

Sounds like you checked her out but even if she doesn't work out you have your loss prevention well under control.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2135688]I hit the SA jackpot. She is 21, cute as a button with the tight spinner body I lust after. She loves to fuck and suck. Made a live in arrangement with her for 10 k a month, [/QUOTE]Why not just get a normal girlfriend that you don't have to pay rather than paying some chick to live with you? Seems weird. Usually people pay for food and shelter, but in this case someone is getting paid to have a roof over their head and food to eat. What are the stipulations of this agreement? Does she have to clean the house, cook, and do your laundry?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2135767]Why not just get a normal girlfriend that you don't have to pay rather than paying some chick to live with you? Seems weird. Usually people pay for food and shelter, but in this case someone is getting paid to have a roof over their head and food to eat. What are the stipulations of this agreement? Does she have to clean the house, cook, and do your laundry?[/QUOTE]It depends how often KG visits. KG is Canadian, but the equivalent of $200 US per month is not a lot of money, even in the Philippine economy. I guarantee nobody on this forum could live for that amount of money much of anywhere in the Philippines, absent a bamboo and nipa hut and a productive grove of fruit trees nearby.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2135767]Why not just get a normal girlfriend that you don't have to pay rather than paying some chick to live with you? Seems weird. Usually people pay for food and shelter, but in this case someone is getting paid to have a roof over their head and food to eat. What are the stipulations of this agreement? Does she have to clean the house, cook, and do your laundry?[/QUOTE]Great points. Things can get weird. After all, he is paying a sex worker to live with him as though she is his girlfriend. There is huge potential for blurred lines and lots of drama. She is living at work providing around the clock GFE as a live-in fuck doll for her john. At some point, she is going to want to go fuck and suck the real Flip boyfriend. The monger needs to realize that his live-in sex provider is going to have her own sex life outside of servicing him.

She may bring the Flip boyfriend over to fuck her and sleep in the monger's bed when he is away because many Filipinas are unaccustomed to sleeping alone in a bed, much less an entire condo or house. They quickly succumb to loneliness and horniness. Their preferred means of alleviating boredom is a hard fuck from the fit young trike driver boyfriend or some random dating-site monger with a largish cock and a blister pack of Kamagra Gold 100's.

Then there is the issue of "tampo" and jealousy. The monger will need to accept it as part of the live-in GFE package. Even if the agreement stipulates that the monger will fuck other girls, the live-in sex worker may chafe at not having a monopoly on his business. A disgruntled Pinay live-in slapper with full access to his residence can make life very exciting for a monger.

The girl will need more money as soon as her family and friends hear about her arrangement and experience misfortunes that require her financial assistance. Pinays are notoriously terrible at managing money and 10,000 pesos will evaporate within a week in Manila; they think in terms of their wants first and their needs last. The neighbors will question the girl during the monger's absence and tell her to demand more money from the rich foreigner as they will consider her his mistress. Unless the monger is always present to rebuff these wannabe handlers, they will quickly poison the arrangement by pressuring the girl to make unreasonable demands with claims that some other girl gets 100,000 pesos monthly or more from her foreigner.

What started out as a bargain deal for live-in P4P could quickly mushroom into an expensive arrangement where the girl's sole interest is money. This can easily end up costing much more than a real girlfriend who may keep growing greed and bad influences at bay due to genuine affection and concern for the monger. Live-in P4P is mixing business with pleasure, something that rarely ends well for mongers.