Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

you can first barter,talk down the prices in most any store there.go to china town in manila and get some ideas there but do not pay the price they want i hammer them down on every trip.

you can get a traditional band there for 2-4 thousand p.you can spend as much as you want.you can save the big stuff for your own country when and if you bring her.the gold thing is a dog show so to speek.you can dress her in gold and jewels and also be simple and elegant.any gal i ever met there would like to be like mr.t if she could hold the stuff up.

play safe. b.b...

I speak Tagalog and Cebuano and have lived in the PI for the last 14 years.But I will never marry a Filipina.Not because they are not sweet or loving,But they have no concept of Savings or long term planning.Long term planning is what party to go to on Saturday??Savings???An alien concept to most of them.Girl friend or Mistress matieral defenitely,Wife matieral Pass.If you guys could only hear them talking Girls talk and understand Tagalog,Most of you would cringe.Most favorite topic Milking the old goat for cash.

[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]After calling and talking to my GF on the phone who is in the province she still wants to leave.I had a straight up conversation with her about the high cost of living in my country.And told her that I would not send thousands of peso's to her family because we needed it to have a good comfortable life here.She said it was ok with her if we send a small amount to help the "relathieves".Thats the problem everyone of us will face when we are serious about getting a gal to your country.Remember they have know way of knowing what things cost because they have never left the P.I. for mor than a vacation in another asian country.Those are the lucky one's.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
If she's willing and content to live and grow old with you in the Philippines (and yes that means with you providing for her family *here*), then you *may* have a winner. If her only desire is to use you to get to the "west", well, what would that tell you?

[QUOTE=J Boy]What do the girls expect for wedding rings? I do not want to spend thousands on a ring again. Would they like a traditional type ring set but with a lesser stone than a diamond or maybe even a synthetic diamond? What did some of you guys do?[/QUOTE]

Probably in exess of 95% would be much happier with a huge wad of money or an fancy expensive new cellfone, unless your wedding ring comes with an Immigration visa to a western country.

The other (likely realistically less than 5%) will be happy with a twist-tie on their ring-finger as long as you really love them *AND* can somehow manage to keep them in love with YOU for a lifetime. Yes Pinays fall in love easily, but just easily they can and mostly *will* fall "out-of-love", especially if your money dries up or you don't keep them ecstatically happy, which in both cases isn't all that easy once you're well into a relationship.

Someday I'll buy aking asawa a real wedding ring. For now investing in our next new business seems to be a LOT more important to her. Then again, I have that small fraction of less than 1% that often thinks beyond how to spend money on tommorrow's family party (though she wants to do that too if we can afford it).

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I speak Tagalog and Cebuano and have lived in the PI for the last 14 years.But I will never marry a Filipina.Not because they are not sweet or loving,But they have no concept of Savings or long term planning.Long term planning is what party to go to on Saturday??Savings???An alien concept to most of them.Girl friend or Mistress matieral defenitely,Wife matieral Pass.If you guys could only hear them talking Girls talk and understand Tagalog,Most of you would cringe.Most favorite topic Milking the old goat for cash.[/QUOTE]
There are a very few who (mostly) think beyond "bukas na lang", and even they are human as we all are and want the occasional "blow-out" just to relieve daily stress from working hard towards the future. I'm sure someday you'll be lucky to find one of those very few. unless of course you're as content as you seem to be as things are for you - with good reaason. Of course if you can't avoid the "right one" then you'll have the same tough time getting out to have fun that I do. :-)

[QUOTE=CanContrib]There are a very few who (mostly) think beyond "bukas na lang", and even they are human as we all are and want the occasional "blow-out" just to relieve daily stress from working hard towards the future. I'm sure someday you'll be lucky to find one of those very few. unless of course you're as content as you seem to be as things are for you - with good reaason. Of course if you can't avoid the "right one" then you'll have the same tough time getting out to have fun that I do. :-)[/QUOTE]If you look in the China boards,Especially the Shanghai section,You will find out I have gone with a Chinese and they are planning a Bachelor party later this year.She s a Shanghainese Chinese who is a manager in a large business.She lived 5 years in Canada studying at the University of British Columbia and the Dad is a Middle level Party Official.Age is 28 and I am 38.So as you can see there are points of compatibility and being Chinese She saves and is very business minded even though Filipinas are more fun.But each guy to his own tastes.I wanted somebody I could trust to help run my business and somehow letting a Filipina help run a fairly medium sized business kinda is like letting a 5 year old drive

[QUOTE=Cebu Local] ... So as you can see there are points of compatibility and being Chinese She saves and is very business minded even though Filipinas are more fun.But each guy to his own tastes.I wanted somebody I could trust to help run my business and somehow letting a Filipina help run a fairly medium sized business kinda is like letting a 5 year old drive[/QUOTE]

Again, that all depends on your Pinay. She and I don't always agree but while she likes to plan for a party as much as anyone, she's as likely to defer the expense towards instead enhancing our business needs, usually suggesting that we don't spend on food and drink so that we can instead invest those dollars and pesos for our future instead of just burning then over the weekend.

Yes, Chinese have a reputation of being "koriput". So do I, but I temper that with proper local "correctness" which so far seems to be appropriate.

Females everywhere I've ever been long enough to be intimate have this burning desire to use the same finite set of money multiple times, though the bank has a problem with that. That's not a Pinay situation, that's a *FEMALE* thing. Of course, it's a no-win situation, if we don't invest in the party *and* don't invest in the biz at the same time, I lose. She admits math isn't her strong point, which combined with FEMALE anywhere emotionalism does cause some friction though still certainly better than with any NorthAmerican female. At least aking Pinay asawa sees both sides and has the capacity and ingrained motivation to to be rational when it really counts. She's the one who built our businesses here for us, not me, and her management capacity for such isn't discountable. She knows what she's doing here and I know to trust to that. I just help and quietly advise and do my part to make it all work for us.

My greatest problem is in trying to get a few hours "out" given her obsession with her "responsibility" to protect her greatest asset, her foreigner asawa. Yeah, she doesn't really need me, she was doing quite fine before she met me. But life *could* otherwise be worse than it is now. Ok so we *do* make a good team, foreigner & Pinay, but I really do need to get out more for fun there's no time for anymore at home.

[QUOTE=CanContrib]Again, that all depends on your Pinay. She and I don't always agree but while she likes to plan for a party as much as anyone, she's as likely to defer the expense towards instead enhancing our business needs, usually suggesting that we don't spend on food and drink so that we can instead invest those dollars and pesos for our future instead of just burning then over the weekend.

Yes, Chinese have a reputation of being "koriput". So do I, but I temper that with proper local "correctness" which so far seems to be appropriate.

Females everywhere I've ever been long enough to be intimate have this burning desire to use the same finite set of money multiple times, though the bank has a problem with that. That's not a Pinay situation, that's a *FEMALE* thing. Of course, it's a no-win situation, if we don't invest in the party *and* don't invest in the biz at the same time, I lose. She admits math isn't her strong point, which combined with FEMALE anywhere emotionalism does cause some friction though still certainly better than with any NorthAmerican female. At least aking Pinay asawa sees both sides and has the capacity and ingrained motivation to to be rational when it really counts. She's the one who built our businesses here for us, not me, and her management capacity for such isn't discountable. She knows what she's doing here and I know to trust to that. I just help and quietly advise and do my part to make it all work for us.

My greatest problem is in trying to get a few hours "out" given her obsession with her "responsibility" to protect her greatest asset, her foreigner asawa. Yeah, she doesn't really need me, she was doing quite fine before she met me. But life *could* otherwise be worse than it is now. Ok so we *do* make a good team, foreigner & Pinay, but I really do need to get out more for fun there's no time for anymore at home.[/QUOTE]


Have to agree with Cebu Local et al who state that chinese are the best when it comes to business, I kinda have to say this as my filipina is 3/4 chinese but they have a head for business like nothing else, Yes they are Koriput in many ways, however, they know how to get the best bargain and they will. As far as doing business with the Chinese, I'd take them any day over a Filipino, no offense to the pinoy, but if you do business with a Chinese expect a HARD bargain ...BUT he/she will keep the bargain once made as a matter of face. Have her run the business, you'll be in the money in no time, just be prepared to put uop with a lot of superstitious nonsense like feng shui and making sure your entrance faces east or whatever.

Hello,

Does anyone else find it hard to chat to filipinas?

Even when she initiates contact it soon feels like I am doing an interview. I ask questions and she will reply with just yes, no, lol or a smiley. After I run out of the standard questions I hit a wall. I try to introduce all sorts of topics, but they never seem to pick up on them. Language has never seemed to be a problem, they seem to have good english skills. Sometimes the Aussie sense of humour doesnt go down to well, but too late to change that.

Anyway is it just me or what?

Steve

This is the general thing I also ran into most of the time they say yes and no at times when it should be the oposit one.I think it's best to ask them if they understand what you said if they give you a yes when the should be saying no.

B.B...

I chatted a few times to them. I sort of descovered when they give short answers, they are more likely chating to many other guys besides me. For example I use Mirc to chat. And I can click on a girls name and see that most of the time she is in 6 or 7 chat rooms and god knows how many privet chats.

So I see what you are saying, but I think more than likely, she is chatting to so many other guys at the same time, she does not have time to give you long answers cause she has to respond to the other guys.

Most have little cash to pay for the pc and will chat with many partners at a time more bang for the buck...VG was right...

Hello,

Yeah the multipule chat thing. I think you get a feel for when thats going on. They usually take ages to come back with the short answer. Even when they are on webcam and I am pretty sure that they are only chatting to me or possibly just a couple of guys, I still get this lack of interest feeling. If they're not interested thats cool, but why continue to contact me?

There is one gal who has had me on her list for like 18 months. She is very attractive so I would think that she has interest from plenty of guys. She will drop in every now an then ask to see my cam or chit chat about the weather then basically go to the yes, no, oic, lol routine.

I thought that it might be a social cultural thing. You know the old "the man should take the lead" type thing.

Steve

What get's them focused is when you give a date as to when you will be meeting them. Then if they get excited and seem eager you know you have a shot for good times. Some you can touch more easily then others before you meet them, others require in the flesh to warm them to you. And some are just a complete waste of time. It's a crap shoot but the more you play the better you get at it.

In addition, you can if you have at least 1 week in PI, meet girls at the chat cafes in whatever city your in. This is very immediate and the girls like the fact that your there and can meet them soon. I always use Mirc in the city I am in -- mainly Cebu and Dumaguete. So don't let the multiple chatters discourage you....these girls are taking a shotgun approach when your far but when your on their turf there going to focus on you -- at least while your banging them. These girls love to fuck so don't listen to any goody two shoes stories from them.

Poppyseed, Visions guy, and others,

Some really interesting points. You guys don't have many posts, but you obviously have a lot of potential.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but I'll add more to this at the thread "internte escorts". As for "internet escorts", I recently sent this post to ISG mgmt.

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In the Philippines section, could we please rename "internet escorts" to something else. For a lot of people, "escort" means calling up an escort service, but what was intended was a thread for those of us trying to pick up women through "online pen pal sites".

Some suggested titles

Online pen pal sites
Internet gals
Internet women
Online seduction
pen pals and chat rooms