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[QUOTE=Country John]Yes, yes and yes.[/QUOTE]Do all the girls in tj have pimps? Just the SW's or bar girls too? Are these pimps like the ones in the you. S that will try to rob you while your on your date? Are the pimps the guys in front of the hotel just standing there? I v seen pics of the hotels that people post and I see lots of hoes and guys out there just standing outside of the hotels. Are they the pimp to be worried about?
I've never mongered without a buddy. The way I see it is, its an adventure to share with a friend or friends. We've had our little group we go with since the beginning. Not really a big group but at most 2-4 people in a groupe per trip. Sharing stories and driving to TJ is half the fun. We've even theme nights we've made up.
Some days will be petite night, or if we're really not sure what we're wanting, we'd make it a plump ass night or blondie night or whatever. Another one is non-hottie central night. Its when you cant get a chick that is sitting in the main floor. You have to get one thats more on the side or in the back part of the bar. Its just to change up the selection. Sometimes you find some chica that you may not have picked in the first place but actually turns out really good.
Its also a good idea to be in a small group for safety. We really dont wanted any more to the other areas of Zona, since there is no point for us. We've seen the other parts and its not our thing. If you're new and not really familiar with the area, go with buddy and stick together. Try to lay low and dont attract attention if you dont need to. No need to bring fancy watches, jewelry or flash money around in this area. The girls arent going to be impressed by it. In a way, it'll even make you even more of a target by the husters.
Lay low, keep it simple and have fun.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]Do all the girls in tj have pimps?[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]Just the SW's or bar girls too? [/quote]
Some or most but not all. Bar girls tend not to have pimps per se but never rule it out. Always assume they do.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]
Are these pimps like the ones in the you. S that will try to rob you while your on your date? Are the pimps the guys in front of the hotel just standing there? [/quote]
See above. When you pay a girl that you don't know for intimate sex, assume that she might try to take advantage of you in some way and assume that she is being watched. That way you can work to keep the "odds" in your favor.
[QUOTE=Loco Smith]
I v seen pics of the hotels that people post and I see lots of hoes and guys out there just standing outside of the hotels. Are they the pimp to be worried about?[/QUOTE]
Worry about pimps when you don't pay, or hurt the girl. Other than that, negotiate your deal, get to the room, doo your deed and move on (while being happy and nice of course).
Having a buddy is a good idea and travelling in groups is cool as long as you behave. The cops notice groups easily.
Country John
I have heard that a lot of the SG's have pimps, but don't see them watching the girls. I have also noticed that some of the hotels provide lockers for the girls so there is some sort of business arrangement. Some of SG's will only go to a certain hotel. So there I think there is some connection.
18 february 2007 (sorry for the delay). downtown san diego is full of information offices so i had no trouble getting full directions to where to catch the blue line trolley to the mexican border. i got a round trip ticket for $5. during peak there is a trolley every 15 minutes and it seems to take about 45 minutes to get to the last stop at the border town of san ysidro, california.
i wasn't quite sure where to go so i asked a transit policeman who was standing right by the trolley. he pointed and said to just follow all the people. as soon as i rounded the building by the trolley i saw the entrance to the bridge. it was very solid, more like a tunnel than a bridge, except it was elevated. it was a fair walk. at the end were 2 sets of full height turnstiles. i didn't notice anyone getting any attention from the police.
an information office just before the second turnstile had closed at 3 pm. a cluster of men not far outside on the left turned out to be taxi libre drivers. i had a $2 coupon off taxi fare to the campamento massage parlor. the driver said it was closed because they employed ****d girls although the website is still up. i thought of asking to go to mermaids or adelitas instead but he said he knew another very good massage parlor.
he took me to luxor and even walked right inside with me. they obviously knew him. i opted for the $55 massage with the masseuse naked rather than the $40 with her in a bikini. this was paid to the house. anything else was to be negotiated with the girl in the room.
6 girls were in the line-up. it was a difficult choice. i liked the honey blonde babe who had been doing the talking. but i went with this big boobed raven haired ivory skinned amazon who must have been 5' 8" or 5' 9". her name was karen.
she didn't look particularly hispanic, but she must have been because her english was very skimpy. when we got to the room with the professional massage table i was given my choice of beer or wine but opted for bottled water. i undressed quickly. she stripped off her tightwhite pants, bra, red sweater, and beige panties. she seemed to get a kick out of watching me watch her do this. she looked very good stripped down - a tad soft, but great natural tits, round ass, and a proportionate waist.
she asked me something. i finally figured out it was what extras i wanted. for everything she wanted $100. ok. up front. ok. i started to lie on my stomach so she could massage my back. no. lie other way up. ok. she immediately starts putting a condom on me. she slides her mouth up and down my shaft like shes pumping for oil. we do a fair amount of this and then she climbs on cowgirl style. up and down. back and forth. my hands roam. her body feels good all over. she stops. "all finished?"i was pretty sure i hadn't come so i say, "i usually have to finish by hand [because of a retarded ejaculation condition]." she starts out with condom on. i get her to take it off. i finish myself off exploding while thinking how great tit fucking her would be. she has me clean myself off with paper towels and a cloth towel. while i am getting dressed i swear she is emptying half a can of air freshener in the room.
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[QUOTE=Hizark21]I have heard that a lot of the SG's have pimps, but don't see them watching the girls. I have also noticed that some of the hotels provide lockers for the girls so there is some sort of business arrangement. Some of SG's will only go to a certain hotel. So there I think there is some connection.[/QUOTE]
That's because not all pimps are guys. Many girls have a madrote(sic) watching them. They count how many times a girl goes up, how long she's in etc. Some girls will not touch you or let you touch them because they do not want thier handler to think they have an outside deal going, so they'll seem cold.
SG's go to the hotel that they post in front of because the hotel guy lets them post there. If they wen't to the hotel next door with the business, the place they post in front of would get pissed and make them move.
Storage for a change of clothes is not uncommon. The girls don't leave the Zona in their work clothes. I wonder how many of them you would recognize in their "off duty" wear?
Double Nickle, you didn't go in far enough, to La Zona. Do some research here. You could have doubled your fun time for $140. No door charge at the clubs in La Zona. Next time.
[quote=double nickle]18 february 2007 (sorry for the delay). downtown san diego is full of information offices so i had no trouble getting full directions to where to catch the blue line trolley to the mexican border. i got a round trip ticket for $5. during peak there is a trolley every 15 minutes and it seems to take about 45 minutes to get to the last stop at the border town of san ysidro, california.
i wasn't quite sure where to go so i asked a transit policeman who was standing right by the trolley. he pointed and said to just follow all the people. as soon as i rounded the building by the trolley i saw the entrance to the bridge. it was very solid, more like a tunnel than a bridge, except it was elevated. it was a fair walk. at the end were 2 sets of full height turnstiles. i didn't notice anyone getting any attention from the police.
an information office just before the second turnstile had closed at 3 pm. a cluster of men not far outside on the left turned out to be taxi libre drivers. i had a $2 coupon off taxi fare to the campamento massage parlor. the driver said it was closed because they employed ****d girls although the website is still up. i thought of asking to go to mermaids or adelitas instead but he said he knew another very good massage parlor.
he took me to luxor and even walked right inside with me. they obviously knew him. i opted for the $55 massage with the masseuse naked rather than the $40 with her in a bikini. this was paid to the house. anything else was to be negotiated with the girl in the room.
6 girls were in the line-up. it was a difficult choice. i liked the honey blonde babe who had been doing the talking. but i went with this big boobed raven haired ivory skinned amazon who must have been 5' 8" or 5' 9". her name was karen.
she didn't look particularly hispanic, but she must have been because her english was very skimpy. when we got to the room with the professional massage table i was given my choice of beer or wine but opted for bottled water. i undressed quickly. she stripped off her tightwhite pants, bra, red sweater, and beige panties. she seemed to get a kick out of watching me watch her do this. she looked very good stripped down - a tad soft, but great natural tits, round ass, and a proportionate waist.
she asked me something. i finally figured out it was what extras i wanted. for everything she wanted $100. ok. up front. ok. i started to lie on my stomach so she could massage my back. no. lie other way up. ok. she immediately starts putting a condom on me. she slides her mouth up and down my shaft like shes pumping for oil. we do a fair amount of this and then she climbs on cowgirl style. up and down. back and forth. my hands roam. her body feels good all over. she stops. "all finished?"i was pretty sure i hadn't come so i say, "i usually have to finish by hand [because of a retarded ejaculation condition]." she starts out with condom on. i get her to take it off. i finish myself off exploding while thinking how great tit fucking her would be. she has me clean myself off with paper towels and a cloth towel. while i am getting dressed i swear she is emptying half a can of air freshener in the room.[/quote]
i did like the report. however i think the prices were too high.
no negotiations??? you paid $155 for some sex (and no massage). you should have at least gotten a 30 min massage for your $55, then the rest could follow. get your $55 worth first, then after the massage you could negotiate for extras $50-60 should get it done. but let her earn her pay. come on now.
since you were south of the border, i'm thinking you should have known you can get a girl at a club. you mentioned adelitas in your post. the girls at adelitas can be had for $60 plus a $12 room fee. thats only $72 (no $55 house fee for a massage). in fact, you could have had 2 girls for $144 and walked out with $11 left.
gentlemen, please, never accept the 1st price a girl tells you. even in the states, you can find massage parlors that charge $55-75 for an hour massage. then negotiate for the extras.
just my .02 cents. no offense intended at all.
i hope this information helps others on future trips. dd
Donnie D. I must agree here seems a bit to much, Double nickle the thing that would have pissed me of is that she made me clean my self, I hope you did not give her a tip or anything seems to me you got ripped off. But next time negotiate she probably was an American and playing dumb, but you never know.
Happy hunting to all
Double Nickle:
The taxi driver took you to Luxor because he gets paid to do this. I'm pretty sure that El Campamento is open.
Also....you paid too much.
ya those are those Taxi Driver "tricks" I've had those comments told to us many times. Our preference is Adelitas or that area, so when we have a Taxi driver tell us that the area is closed or has alot of cops, and the next line is a comment about another place such as the Luxor or Purple Rain, we either jus tell them, we've been here many times and know that line he's pulling on us. If the Taxi Driver is being a pain about it, just ask him to take you back to the Taxi place or La Linea and you're going back home. Cut your losses and pay the $3-5. Hop on another Taxi and I'm sure the next driver wont tell you the same thing.
I've had eager friends that even beg me to not go back to the border, not thinking that we are actually still trying to get to AB. My first rule in going to TJ is keep as safe as possible. Try not to get into any trouble. Do not make a big deal of something that you can fix, such as the taxi driver deal. Its only a few dollars, its not worth it to argue with the guy and get into trouble. You never know, the guy can get pissed off and drop you off in the middle of no where or lead you to Federales.
every time i read that a guy get's in a cab and the driver says he "knows of a good place," i cringe.
mongers have to read the board a bit more closely. double nickle was obviously taken for a major ride, he got a girl that couldn't get him off, paid full price, and to rub himself out, then clean himself up.
it's not hard to be easy on a noobie, but that's just me. the girls, the cab drivers and the clubs spot noobies a mile away and they wring their hands with delight.
here's something you can cut out and put in your wallet:
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1. approach first taxi driver.
2. do not get in car yet.
3. say "adelitas for three dollars plus two dollar tip, ok?"
4. wait for taxi driver to answer.
5. taxi driver says "yes," or "si," then get in and go.
6. taxi driver says anything other than what is in 5, above, approach next taxi driver and go back to #2 above.
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if the taxi driver (after geting you in the cab) says something like "ju know seenior, adelitas was closed because they use **** girls?"
you say: "really???" "wow." "well i always wanted to go there when it was closed." he won't get it, but don't worry because it doesn't matter. just make him take you to adelitas.
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sounds like it's time to open a monger college, if i charged you what you would have otherwise lost, i'd make a fortune!!!!
be safe and be nice.
country john
When I used to take the taxis, I would say, 'I'm meeting my friend in front of Adelitas at 4pm'. They cannot argue with that.
I learned my lesson at Purple Rain. $40 bar fine then negotiate upstairs. What a ripp off. Taxi drivers get a tank of gas for every so many people they hustle in.
Same thing here, if the taxi driver asks or suggests anything, I politely decline and tell him I'm meeting my friends at the Arch or Adelita Bar.
Never, never engage in any discussion of mongering or talk of looking for women or anything of the sort. Just "I'm meeting my friends."