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Hi All,
I'm new to this forum and new to FKKs but I'm planning a trip to Berlin this spring and can't help but to visit Artemis. Reading all your reports really make it sound like close to heaven.
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.
[QUOTE=Skumma]Hi All,
I'm new to this forum and new to FKKs but I'm planning a trip to Berlin this spring and can't help but to visit Artemis. Reading all your reports really make it sound like close to heaven.
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]Short answer: Yes you have to pay for it. But your choice to try and talk your way out of it, but would not recommend it.
Many German FKK senior writers would say a highly satisfactory strategy is to intentionally go for the CIM your first shot, then back to standard sessions for 2nd and beyond. In fact if the girl knows up front you want extra options and/or a longer session, they get motivated to serve you better. If you say you just want a 30 min standard sesion, they will kiss and touch for a minute or so and then go for your cock and suite you up and bam your are done 12 min into the session and its over.
And yes it is heaven and worth the money.
[QUOTE=Skumma]A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]
My guess would be yes, almost certainly. If you feel like you're going to CIM and don't want to pay, pull out.
[QUOTE=Skumma]
A quick first question: what happens if you accidentally CIM during foreplay before going to a room? Do you have to pay for the service?
I imagine it could easily happen the first time you visit.[/QUOTE]
If you come in the girl's mouth during pre session fore play you will most definitely be expected to pay not just a full half hour session but also the cim extra charge. That would be 60 + 50 =110.
Now getting a bj as free fore play at Artemis-that is quite the achievement. I has happened to me once.
Generally as soon as the sex starts so does the clock and so it would be considered by most girls as part of the half hour session even if you then moved to the room.
This can be flexible though and depends upon the relationship that you manage to have with the girl and other factors.
But do be careful if she starts to blow you. Don't let the girl take charge. It is your dime.
Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.
[QUOTE=Skumma]Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.[/QUOTE]
Thats easy, just decide on the right girl for your first session and let her know that you want her to take it slowly as you will come quickly. Most girls understand the issue, and many will ask how many times you have been in the room that day so they know how hard to stimulate.
Once you have had your first session you'll relax into the swing of things a little more.
On the "free foreplay" idea, I have to say there no such thing as a free lunch or even a BJ.
Most free foreplay is implicitly part of a contract with the girl, or is a blatant attempt to seduce back a known repeat customer.
Like Angus I have benefited from this enjoyable experience, but only with girls that were confident that I understood the unspoken pact between us. I never have any doubt that the service is payable, like a routine session, or over the longer term.
If you, or anyone else, fancies the idea of more foreplay before going to the room, then I recommend you try arranging to meet later a girls that approaches you whilst you are in recovery mode. Most girls will treat you well if they know you are committed.
My best example of this happened to me at Palace. I had arranged to session with a couple of girls, who later happened to find me in the old Hamam. Without a word they went to work on me, to the astonishment of the weary guys sitting around. And boy, did they both put on a show. I could hardly walk afterwards. My recollection is that we did eventually all go to a room, for a further normal half hour session. The girls didn't push for a tip, or payment for the extra time. For them, like a kino session, it was good advertising, and good use of time as they were confident they would get the session from me.
[QUOTE=Skumma]Thanks a lot for all the answers. I guess the thing is to be careful and maybe not extremely horny (how that's going to happen.[/QUOTE]If you want to extra safe you should maybe get covered blowjob and you won't have to worry about forking out 50 euro like I had to do at the weekend LOL.
But it was worth it have a good.
I was in Berlin for the 20th anniversary of the fall of the wall and decided to go back to Artemis in the evening before, 08/11, a sunday. I had been to Artemis more than a few times before (7? 8? Can't remember) but never in the last year and was very curious about to see the changes they have made. First the 80€ entrance: despite all the features a club like Artemis can boast I don't think that is worth paying 80€ just to enter. But I'm not the kind of guy that goes to a fkk to have a sauna or a massage so others may disagree.
Anyway, the biggest change in the layout of the club was around the showers, now with more space to get in and out thanks to a small part of the locker room transformed in an area where to hang bathrobes and use washcloths. Nice add.
The second big change since my last visit was a marked switch from a club based on russian and polish girls to one with romanian girls as the majority. While there are still a good amount of polish girls, they were on the same order of amount of the romanian ones, something that wasn't so a year ago, and I couldn't find any russian one. Having a preference for blondes this meant less fair-headed girl and more black-haired with fair skin ones. Not necessarily a bad thing, just something worth reporting.
When I entered the bar, around 20:40, there were probably 30-35 men and 25 girls with half of them not much appealing in my opinion and the other half pretty hot but with no 10s or 9,5s , only plenty of 8 and 9. Given that the bar at that hour is full of smoke and dark as a cavern, I place myself on the stairwell and wait for somebody that can catch my tastes.
The first I see is Kristal (or Cristal) a 20yo romanian, black hair, green-blue eyes, a triangular face, tall, perky small tits and without an inch of fat whatsoever. She speaks a bit of italian, learned from other mongers, and smiles a lot, always a good sign for me. I don't want to spend all the night at the club and so up we go.
In the room she goes straight towards my cock, with a undoubtedly well done bbbj, slow and wet. She seems to enjoy it so much that doesn't want to separate from my cock. I stop her before coming too soon and lay on her back to suck her tits and daty her to the point where she stops me because "she is getting too wet". I don't understand what could be so bad in being too wet but I don't complain, being ready for the fuck part of the session. I come inside her after roughly 25 minutes. 60€ well spent even if I can't really insert the experience with Kristal among the "to be remembered" ones in my life. Something about not "clicking" with the girl.
Showering and then back to the bar. I sit on one of the sofa that are in an elevated position just directly overseeing the bar's stools. From there I manage to see better all the girls coming and going. I remember 3 or 4 old faces, a very short-haired girl with glasses that seem very popular, a 30+ yo italian girl with whom I sessioned an year before but that doesn't remember me and a couple of others that I've seen but never had the chance to talk with. The only black girl present this evening is hanging all alone by herself by the bar entrance. Given my preference for dark skinned girls (other that for blondes and redheads) I stare at her for a couple of seconds, the time needed for her to notice me and to understand I want her to sit beside me.
She is brazilian, from Maracanà - Rio, she calls herself "real Viagra" and seems very happy that she can speak in portuguese with somebody. My portuguese is terrible, I managed to understand her and ask her some questions but no more than that. She has been working at Artemis only for 4 days, before she was in Stuttgart. She doesn't want to tell me her real name and I didn't want to be took for the inquisitive guy so I didn't ask her any more question. While we went upstairs I could finally see her more clearly: long dark curly hair, a face that resemble that of Beyoncè but not as attractive, fake tits ("a month old") but not exaggeratedly oversized, great bunda and big legs enveloped in blue laces (that she removed as soon as we went in the room because of the pain she gets from them).
I've been with brazilian girls before but she was definetly the best of the bunch: she does everything, including anal which I'm not interested in, and wanted me to penetrate her vagina and asshole at the same time while she did bbbj on me. She asked me to come over her tits but first I fucked her doggy, then put her on cowgirl while I spanked her ass. Everytime I spanked her she screams a bit louder and kept asking me for more. I think people from adjacent rooms have definitely heard her screams. I came over her tits has she wanted and after it we spoke for some minutes without noticing that we were far over the 30 minutes (not something I'd complain :-) ). She is the chatty type and very, very horny in bed, if I ever had been with a pornstar I'd say she is PSE but in a nice way, like a very uninhibited girlfriend.
After her, I decide to go out, as it's 23:45 and I don't want to feel too sleepy the next day for the anniversary.
P.S.= is there a new rule at Artemis for girls to not give change to clients? Both the girls with whom I sessioned with I asked for change and they readily sent my to the reception, in fact so quickly that it gave me the idea that they are instructed to say so every time.
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Time to summarize a week. Haven't had time to write earlier, and I now notice how quickly details are forgotten.
On Sunday evening I arrived pretty early, I like that as a strategy, also it goes well with a will to be awake on daytime.
First girl I ran into (well....) was Marcella from Poland, she was nice and the session was good, but no sparkles.
After some hours of looking around, sauna and some coffe, Nicoleta (Bulgaria) joined we in the sofa under the staircase and cuddled up. This girl is a real sweetie and I got a "demo" of her new tits. :-) That ehancement wasn't really necessary, but sure, they were nice and it was a nice job done. Very nice was also the session with her!
This was the end of that evening, which means you look around for another 1.5 hours before you manage to get you out of the place.
Next visit was a short one (if you compare...) on Tuesday and I did one session with the lovely Ella (from Russia). That is what a man need before a good nights sleep! Lovely girl! Of course she "persuaded" me into a CIM.
Thursday was next visit, a bit longer then Tuesday, but still a shorter one. After a period of problems to decide, I talked a bit to Shenya, she has a lovely smile, which can melt you down totally! She told me she is from Romania, I think she is still the girl "R the man" and Kimino reports about.
This girl is highly recommended and a keeper! Highlight of the week without doubt!
Friday, the last visit this time and more time to spend. I left after 01.00 whish is late by my standards.
First encounder was with the Moldavian Denisa, a really nasty looking girl. She wears a VERY short white shirt, just covering the shoulders, the rest looks lite it has been torn off. This girl looks often a bit bored, but she lighted up very much and performed very well.
The day (and week) was closed by a repeat with Ella, who performed well, but the environment was a bit disturbing, all rooms were occupied so we went to the upstairs kino, and had the pole dance music next door.
All in all a nice week!
Visited Artemis a few months ago.
Having been in Palace within the past month, for me, this is still the best fkk in germany.
Had a nice encounter with a Portugese gal. I want to say her name is Priscilla. She told me she also works alot in I think Hamburg. Not sure though.
I had entered the main bar area and walked around, wearing a towel around my waist. Surveying the crowd. I sat down, and she came over to me within two minutes. She seemed really cool and friendly. I thought she was hot. Great, smoking body. And great eyes. Cool attitude. Said okay and away we went.
She deep french kissed me on and off for an hour. Aside from other things, she was simply fantastic. I came in her with our mouths interlocked on each other. She was a real champion and wonderful lady. She wanted to meet for breakfast the next am and screw some more. I almost changed my flight for her. Spent 1. 5 hours with her. Great time.
Next was my 2nd, er 3rd pop for the night. Met a hot brazilian. Girl next door type with a smokin hot body, thin, but curvy, my type. Dark skin. Black eyes. Laeticia was her name and she was a real doll. came inside her while kissing and holding her. She kissed me longly afterwards on the lips and held me close to her. Nice. Artemis is the best in my book. Can't wait to return to this top notch establishment.
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It is in German but here is a short video of Ecki (aka Rod Stewart) the manager at Artemis in which he gives us some tips.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvcGiCTewo[/url]
No girls or anything, just Ecki on the patio telling us how he expects us to behave.
AM
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]It is in German but here is a short video of Ecki (aka Rod Stewart) the manager at Artemis in which he gives us some tips.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgvcGiCTewo[/url]
No girls or anything, just Ecki on the patio telling us how he expects us to behave.
AM[/QUOTE]Is there anything important to know?
I'm planning another trip to Berlin for the 8 and 9th of december, with a couple of friends. That's going to be my first "lingerie night" at Artems :-)
One thing I forgot to mention in earlier reports... girls started asking for a "tip". Did anyone else notice this?
@Angus If you are there in these days, and you feel like it, i'd love to say "Ciao" to you, vis a vis!
Bye
[QUOTE=Kimino]Is there anything important to know?[/Quote]
Certainly nothing earthshaking. He says don't be drunk, be clean (and very diplomatically says that different nationalities have different standards of clean), don't show off (I think that is what prahle nicht means), be nice to the girls and the last is, I think, don't fall in love.
The last one can be difficult for an old dog like me;-))
[QUOTE=Kimino]I'm planning another trip to Berlin for the 8 and 9th of december, with a couple of friends. That's going to be my first "lingerie night" at Artems :-)
One thing I forgot to mention in earlier reports... girls started asking for a "tip". Did anyone else notice this?
@Angus If you are there in these days, and you feel like it, i'd love to say "Ciao" to you, vis a vis!
Bye[/QUOTE]
Possible that I will make a visit at that time. But it is a bit to far off to tell.My pooning budget is a bit compromised at the moment as my job is in flux.
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...the last is, I think, don't fall in love.[/QUOTE]
Spoken like a true killjoy, AM. I have a rule, which has worked well for me, except for the times that it didn't work at all. (And if I had a loonie for each of these exceptions, I could likely fund my next flight across the pond.)
The rule is: I must fall out of love in no more than three times the amount of time that it took me to fall in love. If I fall in love in 15 minutes, then I am required to fall out of love within 45 minutes of the young lady's departure.
[QUOTE=Regnad]Spoken like a true killjoy, AM. I have a rule, which has worked well for me, except for the times that it didn't work at all. (And if I had a loonie for each of these exceptions, I could likely fund my next flight across the pond.)
The rule is: I must fall out of love in no more than three times the amount of time that it took me to fall in love. If I fall in love in 15 minutes, then I am required to fall out of love within 45 minutes of the young lady's departure.[/QUOTE]
Sounds a good rule of thumb. I might just use it;-)
Myself I just let it happen as it does from time to time. It is after all one of the pleasures of the game. Over the years I have found that I fall just as hard as ever but I do not take it quite so seriously. Like you, had I a Euro for every time I thought to myself "I can never live without her..." I would be a rich man indeed. Yet here I am, still standing & alive. Ready for the next go round I suppose.
IMO there is so much harshness in this world that love, in what ever form it cares to take-great romantic love, the steadiness of a 60 year marriage or simple infatuation with an sp, is like a breath of fresh air where ever it happens. Old Angus is an incurable romantic.
So despite Ecki's warning-bring it on oh Venus.