East China - Shanghai

went to my dive place near wuding road and found the door open but a sheet draped over the door. opened it and found a pretty cute girl available. fs, including bbbj, for 200. 150 for straight up s.

good technique and hot sex even though she didnt strip naked. allowed me to unhook her bra and lick to my hearts content. pretty good sex and finished with me lying on top of her. when we were cleaning up she told me things are tight as i guess all the brothers can tell so that is why they have a sheet in front.

she also told me that after 12 midnight i could take her back to my place for 400 rmb with unlimited shots. am sorely tempted to next time i am in town. if i do her 3 times then i get my moneys worth ;-)

Things are getting serious by the week. A couple of months back, I recommended going to local places in suburban SH as a way to avoid a LE-ending to your massage.

Well, the situation is that even remote local massage places are being raided and shut down. I'm friends w a lady that has worked in a couple of shops far from downtown, in a 300% non-laowai neighbourhood and same thing.

Last month LE came in and took away a lady friend of hers + Customer that were caught naked going at each other. 10 days in jail each and shop closed down for good. My friend been back to her hometown for the last 6 weeks, and has no intention to be back in business anytime soon.

She also told me of another laowai caught in a raid: 10 days jail, loss of work permit + expelled from country for good.

Guys, this is getting as serious as it can get. I've never seen this before. Don't risk going at it in the usual open-to-the-public places.

Only full-service option I can think of for visitors and locals alike is takeaway from TRL or similar places, as everything else is a minefield these days. Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Drainaps]Things are getting serious by the week. A couple of months back, I recommended going to local places in suburban SH as a way to avoid a LE-ending to your massage.

Well, the situation is that even remote local massage places are being raided and shut down. I'm friends w a lady that has worked in a couple of shops far from downtown, in a 300% non-laowai neighbourhood and same thing.

Last month LE came in and took away a lady friend of hers + Customer that were caught naked going at each other. 10 days in jail each and shop closed down for good. My friend been back to her hometown for the last 6 weeks, and has no intention to be back in business anytime soon.

She also told me of another laowai caught in a raid: 10 days jail, loss of work permit + expelled from country for good.

Guys, this is getting as serious as it can get. I've never seen this before. Don't risk going at it in the usual open-to-the-public places.

Only full-service option I can think of for visitors and locals alike is takeaway from TRL or similar places, as everything else is a minefield these days. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]

I was a private dinner party in a private home last week with about 10 other foreign businesspeople. Without warning, almost 10 LE (some in uniform, some not) came to the house and asked to check our ID. Most of us did not have our passports but they took down our names/DOB etc. The whole mess took maybe 45 minutes. They called it a ROUTINE CHECK.

Yeah right.

I guess any gathering or group of (white) foreigners together is a risk in China these days. What's going on in this country?

Initially I came with the intention to visit most of well frequented sauna’s posted on this board. I did visit Sacrosa and 999 in my first weekend, but the stories about the raids have really scared me. The thought of having to spend a week in jail, never be able to come back to China and possible layoff/divorce have made me decide to look for other options.

I made contact with two girls through the AFF site and chatted with them on occasion. Last week I made appointments with them to go out on the town. With the first one there was no chemistry so I went back to the hotel early. But with the second one it was a different story. We had a nice dinner and as we were thinking about where to go next I proposed her place and she agreed without hesitation. She went to change and returned wearing nothing more than a silk negligee and cuddled up against me on the couch. It didn’t take before we were in the bedroom and had a great time. She wanted me to stay overnight but as she lives in Puxi and I am staying in a hotel in Pudong I decided to get back and not wait for the morning rush hour. We agreed to meet again soon.

During my last trip I met a girl in an Irish pub who gave me a card of a bar on Changyi Lu, north of Pudong Avenue, between Fushan Lu and Dongfang Lu. There is a strip of 7 bars there with Chinese and Philippino girls. I went there a view times for a few drinks and games. I soon had picked my favorite and asked her to come back to the hotel with me on a Saturday. I expected no for an answer as I had read that in these type of bars it is not possible to go for take out. But she named her price and I agreed. She stayed all night and most of Sunday. We really had a nice GFE experience. It might be a little more expensive than the sauna, 1000 RMB, but it doesn’t give you the stress of who might be knocking on your door and is a relaxing experience. The deal in the bar I frequented is that the girls are not allowed to leave with you until you have bought them 6 drinks of 45 RMB minimum each. After that they are free to decide. What is also nice is that the girls are not pushing you at all to take them home with you. You more or less have to convince them. And although that might be part of the game, isn’t that what we really want.

Happy hunting!

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[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Merrylin -- 3rd floor -- depends on who you choose.[/QUOTE]Thanks Waldeck.

Any suggest can you maybe give us a number or name at Merrylin and any other place like Thompsons, 999, or anywhere else? I will be at the Hilton in SH anything around there.

Thanks for all your help.

Are things really that bad in Shanghai? I heard similar stories down south in SZ and CP and that's because there is a change in political leader. Does that apply to SH too? I am flying to SH tomorrow so it won't be much fun if all the establishments are closed. Can somebody give a more recent update on the situation? Will it be better/safer to do a takeout with one of the BBS gals?
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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I was a private dinner party in a private home last week with about 10 other foreign businesspeople. Without warning, almost 10 LE (some in uniform, some not) came to the house and asked to check our ID. Most of us did not have our passports but they took down our names/DOB etc. The whole mess took maybe 45 minutes. They called it a ROUTINE CHECK.

Yeah right.

I guess any gathering or group of (white) foreigners together is a risk in China these days. What's going on in this country?[/QUOTE]

I was so tempted today to head out to a sauna today, but maybe good i did not. Still any clue on safe times?

Also what is the reasoning for heavy activity? Just expo? I mean, saunas are natural even to chinese men and normally in china no one gets busted without reason ( and as long as he pays)

Trl always ended in disappointment for me.

The whole crackdown thing has me a little worried. Is it because of Expo or upcoming Oct 1 National Day? What happened in prior years around this time? And is it just SH or are raids pretty common in the entire country around National Day?

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]I was so tempted today to head out to a sauna today, but maybe good i did not. Still any clue on safe times?

Also what is the reasoning for heavy activity? Just expo? I mean, saunas are natural even to chinese men and normally in china no one gets busted without reason ( and as long as he pays)

Trl always ended in disappointment for me.[/QUOTE]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.

The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.

I perconally know several people that were caught and, unfortunately, that are no more in China.

Hadn't been to SH for a while so was pretty excited heading into this trip. Got into town, tried Shanghai Hotel. Closed. Made my way over to Tomson. Closed too. Hadn't checked this board beforehand and now I know why they're closed.

Shanghai Hotel closure seems temporary. Entryway still there just closed. There were two other dudes in the elevator lobby who looked just as confused as I was. Tried the doors even though the place was obviously closed (hehe, thought of the same thing but they beat me to it) Tomson seemed permanently closed (I could be remembering the location incorrectly. Had only been once or twice in the past and the entry is somewhat convoluted). Asked the workers hanging around the building and they mentioned that it closed 6mo ago?

Hopped a taxi to TRL and was chatting with the driver about the closures. He mentioned one place on Beijing Lu and Dating Lu. Didn't say anything about crackdowns though. Didn't try the place since after TRL I wandered over to a place on the other side of Yan An Lu which I had forgotten about earlier (across from Shanghai Hotel on Wulumuqi Lu). And yes, closed also.

So damn. What now? Think I will try that Yi Sheng Tang place mentioned in another post. But anyone know of a good, "safe" (is that possible these days? ) sauna still in operation? PM me if you're worried it'll make the local authority's hit list.

[QUOTE=Cold Fire]The whole crackdown thing has me a little worried. Is it because of Expo or upcoming Oct 1 National Day? What happened in prior years around this time? And is it just SH or are raids pretty common in the entire country around National Day?[/QUOTE]

Cold Fire,

It is normal and applies, albeit to varying extents, nationwide. Every year during this period the crackdown starts and runs until after National Day. I reckon that this year may be tougher because of Expo 2010 and that it is an important political anniversary year.

Best to use your phone contacts and be discrete.

Just my POV.

OAH

In my opinion, Step 1 of the whole thing targeted the more obvious and less well connected places popular with Laowai, and this is where, for instance, B2 went down.

LE has definitely gone a few layers down, now shooting pretty much at everything that moves, even in 200% Chinese parts of the city, certainly prompted by Neighbourhood Committees that disapprove of "vulgar and obscene" behaviours that might pervert the young and hamper the way towards an "harmonious society".

Guys, do not risk it. As OAH says, use your agenda and get Service Providers to go to your place, or go for take away in places like TRL (that in my opinion will be targeted sooner or later, given the high concentration of laowai and working girls).

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.

The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.
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[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]What I was told is that there is no time, however it is more likely to happen shen there are laowai in the sauna... lot of people just calling them when foreign customers go.

The logic is that they want to close all place that could be known by future international visitors, during the expo the places that will stay open will refuse to let foreigners get in.

I perconally know several people that were caught and, unfortunately, that are no more in China.[/QUOTE]

Since you know several people who were caught, what happened to them ? Can you elaborate more.

You should have several stories for us. My biggest fear is being deported, black ball and no way back in. Explain this to your boss or wife.

[QUOTE=Weelock]Since you know several people who were caught, what happened to them ? Can you elaborate more.

You should have several stories for us. My biggest fear is being deported, black ball and no way back in. Explain this to your boss or wife.[/QUOTE]You don't need to explain to your boss, they do it for you.

What happen to the foreign customer:

1. jail (max 15 days)
2. fine (people I know did pay arounf 30Krmb... not he worse)
3. they contact embassy + employer
4. no more work permit/ visa... and 30 days to leave China

Among people caught, one is a very good friend of mine who had to leave China after.... more than 10 years being there!!!

Most dangerous are saunas, even more than BBS

Usually LE get in as regular customers, before they raid with many other LE join them

Anyone else with friend experiencing the same?

Well another option is to keep cp numbers from prior time together, I have started doing this now and just call when I am back in town, and a text message every few weeks to ask how they are going and stuff helps them remember you.

On my last trip I did notice WG in hotel bars that I have never seen them in before even the local guys were making comments along the lines of "you never see a working girl here" which i my case makes for an interesting observations in terms of interactions between the WG and first time mongers......

If you like Pinays like I do then Tongren Lu or Zapatas is a great place to get cp# especially if you are staying in town for longer then 1 night, go there between 10 and midnight have a chat to a few get their numbers and even when they do ask for a large amount of money, I just say text me later if you have no other options for tonight? Dosent always work but if you are there for a week or so the texts do roll in early in the week asking if your still in town or if you want to get together.

So now I keep away from the saunas etc. but my method requires a bit of planning and regular visits to Shanghai.

YMMV

Wizard