Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=*****man;1521293]Colonze 2 has an upstairs model lounge with prices going up to over 4000 baht so maybe he can find something there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advise!

I just saw a video on YouTube, but I don't think I'm allowed to post links.

If you go on Youtube and type "La Belle Massage Bangkok" you will see an 18 sec. Video of the women there.

It's the 10th video starting from the top. It's not the 17 sec. One that comes up first with one lady.

Now, for anyone who has been to La Belle. Are those sideliners? Models? Fishbowl? They are in a precise location, like left but I wonder which floor this is.

Whatever category, these are my type 100. Long legs, attractive, with a Jap / korean look to them.

Thus, knowing the type I desire I think I'll know where to go.

I'm just upset with the farang charge, but they look great. If these are sideliners, I can only imagine what models look like but I wouldn't need them.

I inspected the Colonze 2 upstairs girls (so-called superstars) several days in a row last month and doubt seriously that any sex tourist in their right mind would want to pay up to 4K for any one of them.

[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1521335]Whatever category, these are my type 100. Long legs, attractive, with a Jap / korean look to them.

Thus, knowing the type I desire I think I'll know where to go.

I'm just upset with the farang charge, but they look great. If these are sideliners, I can only imagine what models look like but I wouldn't need them.[/QUOTE]Great if can find any enthusiastic girls there. Most seem scared of Farangs and no stamina. I have only ever found 1 girl there worth repeating. However I having a tough time finding any girls worth repeating at any Mp these days. My few regulars remaining are since years ago. Can't work out why service is declining so much. Maybe girls just don't like me anymore. Haven't had a really great Soapy session for a while.

[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1521335]If you go on Youtube and type "La Belle Massage Bangkok" you will see an 18 sec. Video of the women there.
Now, for anyone who has been to La Belle. Are those sideliners? Models? Fishbowl? They are in a precise location, like left but I wonder which floor this is.
Whatever category, these are my type 100. Long legs, attractive, with a Jap / korean look to them.
Thus, knowing the type I desire I think I'll know where to go.
If these are sideliners, I can only imagine what models look like but I wouldn't need them.[/QUOTE]If I am viewing the indicated video, then the girls sitting on pink couches in the video are sitting on the stage at the far end of the lounge area at La Belle. This is the fish bowl area were "S" and "G" girls normally sit. Higher category La Belle girls sit on the side of the lounge area at the bar which is in front of and to the right of the stage. I have often found very attractive "S" and "G" model girls at La belle. I have also occasionally found absolute stunners "D" and "L" girls siting solo at the bar and other times I have seen same category girls sitting at the bar that I did not find as attractive as a few "S" girls sitting on the stage (fishbowl). My point is don't pick a girl by her in house designation (model category) or where she is sitting, pick her by your own intrinsic set of values and preferences and whether or not you think there is some indication that the girl is up to having a good time with you. Tastes vary. I am pretty sure that if Syzygies and I went to La Belle together we would choose different girls 7 out of 10 times. I have not found any unfriendly girls in La Belle. Quite the contrary, all the girls I have been with have always been very good to me. The majority of my girls have turned out to be "G" girls with "S " girls the 2nd most often selected category and then "D" and "P" girls. I have never been with an "L" girl and I have never even seen an "X" girl at La Belle.

My current favorite La Belle girl is a "D" category model and she is a very sweet girl with a beautiful face, ta ta's and pussy. I enjoy extended 69 with her before and sometimes after boom boom. Her goal seems to be to make me happy with a smile. What can I say. I think she has a good work ethic. I have her cell number. One of my goals next trip is to meet up with her on the outside.

TigerCountry, there's a website called ilikemassage where you can look at photos of the girls in different MPs. I don't think they're heavily photoshopped. Use it with Google Chrome for auto-translate and go to the MPs that you consider to have the most attractive girls. If the farang surcharge annoys you then just don't go to any MPs that have it. I never go to them just because rather than paying 3500 baht for a 2500 baht girl with a farang surcharge, why not go to a place without the surcharge and pay 3500 baht for a 3500 baht girl instead?

Also once you're in an MP there's no obligation to take a girl so why not just get off at MRT Huay Kwang (exit 3) and visit a few MPs in the area? You can't miss them.

[QUOTE=TigerCountry; 1521291]One more thing. Does Asian include Indian? I ask before I'm Western but have south-asian origins too. I wonder what reaction I would get at Poseidon actually. Hmmm.

I also don't know how I would be labeled, Asian or Non-Asian.

One thing I learned from experience is that places that are open to all cultures are the way to go for maximum pleasure. I'm very young, but with Russians and many others.

This is what I learned.

There is something about being foreigner friendly that helps matters. It's the philosophy that Poseidon has adapted that I don't appreciate, it hurts me at a personal level coming

From W. Europe and due to the history of my country.[/QUOTE]I'd say that a lot of Thais wouldn't consider you Asian, the same way they would consider the Japanese, the Koreans, and the Chinese Asian.

Guys from India have a bad reputation there among Thai ladies, because they usually don't have much money to spend and they try to do everything as cheaply as possible, including paying the lady.

And this isn't just about money. Many Thai people are prejudiced against people with dark skin color. I've seen with my own eyes how Thai bar ladies in Pattaya stayed away and didn't want to do anything with an African American sailor from a US military ship that stopped nearby for a break. This guy probably had the money to pay the ladies just like everybody else. But it looked like the ladies didn't want his money.

I've talked with some Thai ladies about Indians and Africans in Thailand, and I did hear some prejudice from them against both. If that African American's experience is anything to go by, then you being from western Europe probably won't make much difference for many Thai ladies. Although I'm sure you can find some places where you would be welcome. Perhaps Annie's Massage is one of those places.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1521396]If I am viewing the indicated video, then the girls sitting on pink couches in the video are sitting on the stage at the far end of the lounge area at La Belle. This is the fish bowl area were "S" and "G" girls normally sit. Higher category La Belle girls sit on the side of the lounge area at the bar which is in front of and to the right of the stage. I have often found very attractive "S" and "G" model girls at La belle. I have also occasionally found absolute stunners "D" and "L" girls siting solo at the bar and other times I have seen same category girls sitting at the bar that I did not find as attractive as a few "S" girls sitting on the stage (fishbowl). My point is don't pick a girl by her in house designation (model category) or where she is sitting, pick her by your own intrinsic set of values and preferences and whether or not you think there is some indication that the girl is up to having a good time with you. Tastes vary. I am pretty sure that if Syzygies and I went to La Belle together we would choose different girls 7 out of 10 times. I have not found any unfriendly girls in La Belle. Quite the contrary, all the girls I have been with have always been very good to me. The majority of my girls have turned out to be "G" girls with "S " girls the 2nd most often selected category and then "D" and "P" girls. I have never been with an "L" girl and I have never even seen an "X" girl at La Belle.

My current favorite La Belle girl is a "D" category model and she is a very sweet girl with a beautiful face, ta ta's and pussy. I enjoy extended 69 with her before and sometimes after boom boom. Her goal seems to be to make me happy with a smile. What can I say. I think she has a good work ethic. I have her cell number. One of my goals next trip is to meet up with her on the outside.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's the right video since there's only one. If these are fishbowl girls I'm in for a treat.

I can only imagine what sideliners and models look like, damn!

As for the prejudice, this is normal. This is also why I wish to avoid Go Go's because I'll be mistaken for an Indian (and I'm not even originally from there).

My experience with Thais ladies and a 1 Japanese one in massage centers were ultra positive, but this is W. Europe. Thailand is Asia.

Prejudice / racism is ok for me, but professionalism is a must. She must do her job even if she doesn't like my skin color.

If anyone lived in Italy, you would know how to accept just about anything. Relic ideologies from WWII.

I've heared it (and will probably keep hearing it) from whites and blacks equally for being brown.

I suspect a lot of soapie MPs would become "members only" if someone who looked south asian walked in. Better stick with Annies.

[QUOTE=*****man;1521496]I suspect a lot of soapie MPs would become "members only" if someone who looked south asian walked in. Better stick with Annies.[/QUOTE]Not really. Soapy customers come from many different countries. If some customers need a bath badly, then they certainly get one. LOL.
I have been told that Japanese customers tend to have very bad breath (a generalisation heard from girls - smokers?) but I don't know if the mouth gargle really fixes that or not.

I believe Farang surcharges get applied to all except those with SE Asian appearance. I envy the Chinese Americans as they get a better price. So Indians, Arabs etc. know by Thais as "Khaek" will be charged same as Farang.

True Thai people have racial prejudices but Indians can be well accepted depending on grooming, attitude and behaviour. So it really depends. Classy guys accepted just about anywhere. Pinching girls breasts hard is something girls don't like and is behaviour that gives a few different countries a bad name. Just an example of a gross generalisation I have heard from girls.

Those ilikemassage girl photos sometimes look like the real girl. Sometimes not so close.

After having been to Annies multiple times over the last couple of years I thought giving a 'proper' Soi 24 Oily a try. Did go for Pink Massage which was a huge mistake.

Mamasan already waited for me at the entrance behind her little desk. Within a split second the catalogue was out showing a neat selection of the available ladies. She did ask me for my preferences and suggested a lady called Ning. Picture looked perfectly photoshopped, reality looked kind of similar. Certainly I did know that photo and the real girl do not always match.

Anyway, booked 1.5 hrs in VIP room for THB 2700 (!). A simple bed but with a jacouzzi. Ning came in after the obligatory 5min 'getting-ready' break I knew from Annies. Apparently she looked really nice from behind walking up the stairs when leading me to the room. However after undressing (I needed to undress myself. No 'support') my arousement vanished completely. Ning. 20 years of age. Was not only a mum with a lose tummy but also did not have any breast at all. But about 3cm long nipples.

That was it for me really. We did have a shower. She washed me, I wasnt allowed to wash her. DFK. No chance, DATY. No chance, A+ no chance. And so on. But perfect in fake moaning!

After having the shower she starded the oil massage, I interrupted her after about 5 min and switched into Ego-mode. Wanted to come asap and leave. Turned myself around, moved her hand to where I needed it to be and she started unwrapping a condom. BBBJ. No chance.

After chang noi became chang yai she sat on me riding me with even more fake moaning. I stopped her, pulled her closer and within seconds I forced myself to the shot.

So after about 30 mins I was about to leave. But she didn't let me. She was concerned Mamasan would think her service wasn't good. Well it wasn't good but my soft heart led me to stay with her another 45 mins in the hot tub just wasting time. Once time was over I dressed up and left.

What did I learn?

1) Never ever again to a oily massage parlour.

2) Never trust Mamasan.

3) Never try to find an Annies experience elsewhere.

On the next day, and to erase the Pink experience in my mind, I went to Annies for the fourth time in four years. Check out that report in the equivalent thread.

Had a very mediocre Soapy experience yesterday at Utopia. Girl had fake nose and fake tits although both were a reasonable job. Figure rather ordinary (needs to lose some belly). Could not tell when selecting due to girl's outfits and due to sitting. Service was mediocre (normal) with only CBJ. Real session killer was when insisting to change the condom part way through when no problem existed. I did not cum. Papasan lied and said the girl was natural. My favourite girl was booked out. She is pretty, sexy, and very popular despite being slightly full of herself.

Actually tried "Noar" first due to convenient location on Ekamai road. Has been refurbished. Anyway did not turn out well at 4PM Sat as had only 3 girls that had come out from doing the make up, and none were my type. As I have said before, 6PM plus is better even on a Saturday.

Today was walking along Soi 24/1 and spotted a very pretty face and slim figure at Boss. Had to try the girl. She was very sweet and a good kisser. Had to go very easy with her as she does not like pounding. Full penetration also a bit too dangerous for her for large size. Adequate performance for me (just 2 weeks experience) going with hot scrawny model type looks and light skin was enough to convince me to come back again. Orgasmic too. Supposed to be away in Roi Et for next few days.

Later decided to check out Dream Heaven Massage Soi 26. Newbie girl May just 4 days in the job. Said she was studying IT so remains to be seen if she will work the shop for long. Slim small tits very good waist to thigh ratio. Not stunning face but quite cute. Took VIP room with Spa. Was evidently new as she had to work out how to use the equipment. Claimed she had never fucked a Farang before as so far one Farang had taken 2 girls and only fucked the other one, another Farang had taken only handjob. Also claimed her very first sex was just a year ago. Anyway her performance was absolutely unbelievable for a girl with so little experience including a very good attempt at deep throat and I am above average. Nice gel body slide. A quite horny type of girl. So I have to be a bit sceptical about her lack of experience. Can an MP girl be taught all this stuff in such a short time? I have had many girls with far worse performance after years of experience. Can she be a natural? Collected her number in case should disappear soon. The VIP room was a very high standard of décor and size. So DHM26 is a relatively posh shop. I think Boss girls generally prettier though, according to my spec for slim faced models.

So finally, I have collected a few new massage girls that turn me on, in addition to Ang-pao at SW and Bo at Cherry (when she comes back).

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1521251]The farang surcharge doesn't mean these soapies are unfriendly towards non-Asian men. They claim it's because we're larger than an Asian man. Who knows?[/QUOTE]I don't believe it really relates to dick size even if SE Asians may be smaller on average. I believe its an attempt to keep a balance between the more "desirable" SE Asian customers and the other less desirables. Thais running these places don't want to be overrun by el-cheapo low class Farangs, so setting a higher price tends to help weed out certain less desirable Farangs and others. However they don't mind Farangs willing to be ripped off just a little. Maybe gives the Thais a sense of extra power. Some shops that have very few Farangs ever going there do not have Farang surcharges.

The surcharge is an attempt to keep non-Asains out. Yep, racism exists. Most Asians would rather non-Asians not sleep with the gals they are sleeping with. Kind of like many white folks get all weird when black dudes sleep with white chicks. Just pure dee old racism.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1521538]Had a very mediocre Soapy experience yesterday at Utopia. Girl had fake nose and fake tits although both were a reasonable job. Figure rather ordinary (needs to lose some belly). Could not tell when selecting due to girl's outfits and due to sitting. Service was mediocre (normal) with only CBJ. Real session killer was when insisting to change the condom part way through when no problem existed. I did not cum. Papasan lied and said the girl was natural. My favourite girl was booked out. She is pretty, sexy, and very popular despite being slightly full of herself.

Actually tried "Noar" first due to convenient location on Ekamai road. Has been refurbished. Anyway did not turn out well at 4PM Sat as had only 3 girls that had come out from doing the make up, and none were my type. As I have said before. 6PM plus is better even on a Saturday.

Today was walking along Soi 24/1 and spotted a very pretty face and slim figure at Boss. Had to try the girl. She was very sweet and a good kisser. Had to go very easy with her as she does not like pounding. Full penetration also a bit too dangerous for her for large size. Adequate performance for me (just 2 weeks experience) going with hot scrawny model type looks and light skin was enough to convince me to come back again. Orgasmic too. Supposed to be away in Roi Et for next few days.

Later decided to check out Dream Heaven Massage Soi 26. Newbie girl May just 4 days in the job. Said she was studying IT so remains to be seen if she will work the shop for long. Slim small tits very good waist to thigh ratio. Not stunning face but quite cute. Took VIP room with Spa. Was evidently new as she had to work out how to use the equipment. Claimed she had never fucked a Farang before as so far one Farang had taken 2 girls and only fucked the other one, another Farang had taken only handjob. Also claimed her very first sex was just a year ago. Anyway her performance was absolutely unbelievable for a girl with so little experience including a very good attempt at deep throat and I am above average. Nice gel body slide. A quite horny type of girl. So I have to be a bit sceptical about her lack of experience. Can an MP girl be taught all this stuff in such a short time? I have had many girls with far worse performance after years of experience. Can she be a natural? Collected her number in case should disappear soon. The VIP room was a very high standard of theécor and size. So DHM26 is a relatively posh shop. I think Boss girls generally prettier though, according to my spec for slim faced models.

So finally, I have collected a few new massage girls that turn me on, in addition to Ang-pao at SW and Bo at Cherry (when she comes back).[/QUOTE]How many pops you get at DHMS26?

[QUOTE=*****man;1521496]I suspect a lot of soapie MPs would become "members only" if someone who looked south asian walked in. Better stick with Annies.[/QUOTE]Really? I might as well just call them and book beforehand then. Let them know where I come from. This is probably what I'll do with La Belle and Utopia models.

Better be safe than sorry.