Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Papi12;2235766]My first business trip to Sao Paulo.

I have always had a thing for small bubble butts with that thigh gap. Medium breasts are great as well. Thiffany sounds delightful. Are there any pictures of these ladies?

I have WhatsApp and Google Translate. Where would I find these ladies? I will be in a hotel Near the US consulate I think Brooklin?

Thank Guys for the help.[/QUOTE]Papi,

With all due respect, your type of request comes up all the time and it is fundamentally the wrong way to approach a visit to Brasil in my opinion. Guys come on this board asking for particular types of girls all the time. One guy was "crazy for big naturals", wanted to know where he could find "big naturals". Others want "the girl next store", others want "looks like actress X" etc. I understand the motivation, I too go to places hoping to find my "ideal" but the problem is your ideal and my ideal and the ideal of others on this board are very different. So don't rely on anyone's recommendation. Do your homework. Make a list of the places to go to. This should be easy, we have documented time and again the top clinicas and boates. Visit as many as you can. Find your ideal. And be open to finding others that are not your ideal, be open to new types. This is Brazil LOL, there are all types, types you have not even imagined.

More importantly, Brazil is not the place for a "trophy fuck" approach. By that I mean, its not like another place where one tries to fuck the prettiest girl in the club just for her looks because one knows that all the girls are hard core pros and might as well choose the best looking because the service will all be similarly mechanical. Brasileiras relate to their clients individually. If they like you, they will treat you like a lover and give themselves to you sexually more completely than your ex girlfriend ever did. If they are tired or not into you, they will be lazy and treat you differently than other clients. Charm is important. Yes you can be charming even with google translate.

I personally do not like recommending girls to other punters because guys tastes are so different. I see guys at clinicas choose girls that I would not even f for free. The best you can do is to just go to the clinicas and clubs and look for yourself. Alternatively, you can look at photoacompanhantes and favorite the ones that you like, focusing on those that have positive gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] reviews. Been discussed here many times.

In summary, do your homework, don't look for a simple recommendation. Plan your time to sample as much as possible and remain flexible in case you meet someone that you click with and decide to spend more time with. Even if she is not what you were originally looking for.

Have fun.

This is a checklist for visitors to SP. This is not directed at any particular poster.

This list is intended to help make the forum productive and helpful to all.

Do's. Before posting a question.

Read at least 10 pages of the forum before posting any question.

Make note of the helpful posters and use the "View Forum Posts" action on their name to read more posts by the helpful posters.

Make a list of the places you intend to visit based on your reading.

Make a list of any particular providers you may be thiking of seeing based on their anuncios in [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] and their TDs in [URL]gpguia.net[/URL].

Map out the places you want to visit on google maps to get some sense of time and distance in SP.

After doing the above, provide your plan and ask as specific a set of questions as possible.

Don'ts.

Don't ask for any information without doing the Do's.

Don't expect the veterans on this forum to rewrite the same information that has been written a dozen times already. We are not google.

Don't expect that the tastes and opinions of the other guys are going to match your own when it comes to beauty. If you want opinions on specific types of beauty, post a link to a photo ad that conforms to that beauty rather than just words.

Don't waste your time visiting the TGTBT escort sites. Stick to the sites mentioned, particularly photoacompanhantes and particularly gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].

There is a good chance that everything you need to know has already been posted in the last few months. You are much more likely to get help if you meet the veterans half way by posting your plan to at least show that you have harvested the information that is already available.

Cheers.

Rovnaks advice as usual is strong. But when he was making the point about pretty girls sometimes not having good service in other countries, the point was about Brazil being great service but even more so if you are a gentleman. He was not saying (I'm sure) don't go with the prettiest girl. I always went with the prettiest girl (by my estimation) and was never disappointed.

Carolina solid 9 - Casarao.

Karina 9. 5 face (8 body) - Scandalo.

Thifany 9. 5 face (9 body) - Fazendinha.

Eduarda 9. 5 face (9. 5 body) - Moustache.

I also had the following pleasant experience twice: You know how you see some girl across a dark bar and she looks pretty hot so I wave her over. Then up close, she's a shade less attractive. Here it was the opposite. With both Thifany and Eduarda when they sat down I about fell out of my chair their were so drop dead gorgeous. No joke. Unbelievable.

If you go to a nice club you can get the looks AND the service. And for 2-3 bills including cover and drinks and girl and hotel. Wow. I love Brazil.

So the other girl besides Thifany that I had a real BFGF connection with was Carolina. Pinged her today on WhatsApp and had a really interesting conversation. I asked her why she worked at Casarao being as beautiful as she is she could easily work Scandalo.

She said she used to work Cafe Photo and could land a guy at 800-1000/ hour (her words not mine) but it was usually one per night. She said at Casarao she has to charge less but she can go a couple times. She said she just prefers this over trying to land the big fish. So I found that really interesting. And it means you WILL find gems at Casarao if other girls think likewise.

Makes me realize also why I didn't see her in my first hour cruising Casarao. No way I could have missed a garota that pretty! She was just out of pocket and happened to return around 4 AM. No worse for the wear I'the say. Clean and pretty and ready to bang! God she was beautiful and a wicked good time!

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2234207]I'm prepping for my Sampa trip in a few weeks and scoping out the Gpguia reviews for the girls I'm finding on twitter. In trying to register for a username on the site, they require a phone number. Not sure it's prudent or useful to give my personal cell phone and I won't have a Brazilian phone until I'm in country. Wonder if any have any advice. I can see the escort reviews without a profile but can't see the boites TDs or do a search.[/QUOTE]Just get a prepaid account ATT or T-Mobile or any other and just pay for 1 month (You will get a SIM card / phone number so you can get registered / verified for social media accounts that require a phone number). Then remove SIM when OCONUS and replace with Brasilian SIM / phone number.

[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;2233320]Looking at organizing my first trip to Brazil shortly and at this stage planning for most of my time to be in SP. I've read a number of posts and the reports of distinction, but hoped I could get some direct answers to the below if possible:

2. As a complete non-Portuguese speaker how big of an impediment will this be? Are there some options completely off the table because of language barriers?

3. I've read about a lot of members, finding girls details and then contacting them via whatsapp before they get there. Where are you finding these girls to start with? Tinder? Agency sites?

Appreciate any advice any of you might have to give, and hopefully might meet some of you in person when I'm down there.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Non-Portuguese speaking is not a deal breaker at all. Most speak relevant English to accomplish goals. Also it is good to have Google translate or other translation app on cellphone (make sure a offline version is available since you may not have cell or wifi service in some locations to utilize online service) Some girls like the phone apps its like a game.

WhatsApp I tend to find girls via Twitter accounts, as they all tend to list their phone numbers. Then you put their phone number in you phone contact list WhatsApp will verify the number and often a corresponding picture will show on phone list. It takes some digging on Twitter and even on Instagram but its worth it.

Rovnak's right about charm and connection. Sometimes you walk into a club, talk to the hottest girl and you don't feel the connection. Another girl comes along. Looks like a hotty from your high school days or she's cute with a certain humor and / or energy. While I'm sure Steve feels like he was with three girls with 9. 5 face, I don't think we would all concur. It's more than likely, those three worked their charm on him and delivered the goods when they got together.

Maybe it's me, but I found Papi12's request post incohesive. He wants help because it's his first trip to SP, but he bolted on someone else's recommendations without a transition? Is that what that was?

There was a guy several months back who kept posting photos of Brazilian porn stars and asking if we knew of girls like that. And I want an Adriana Lima look-alike. I've never seen a girl like Adriana Lima in all my years in Brazil other than perhaps in a huge night club where the girl was surrounded by some rich, young Brazilian studs.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2236602]Rovnak's right about charm and connection. Sometimes you walk into a club, talk to the hottest girl and you don't feel the connection. Another girl comes along. Looks like a hotty from your high school days or she's cute with a certain humor and / or energy. While I'm sure Steve feels like he was with three girls with 9. 5 face, I don't think we would all concur. It's more than likely, those three worked their charm on him and delivered the goods when they got together.

Maybe it's me, but I found Papi12's request post incohesive. He wants help because it's his first trip to SP, but he bolted on someone else's recommendations without a transition? Is that what that was?

There was a guy several months back who kept posting photos of Brazilian porn stars and asking if we knew of girls like that. And I want an Adriana Lima look-alike. I've never seen a girl like Adriana Lima in all my years in Brazil other than perhaps in a huge night club where the girl was surrounded by some rich, young Brazilian studs.[/QUOTE]Sure enough chemistry is key. It's great when you have it with a nine, but I'the take chemistry and a seven any day over none and a nine. I got very lucky to have both, but some of that was due to good scouting. At Casarao, before Carolina I tried to strike it up with this cute little spinner. Just my type. But no chemistry and Carolina soon followed.

And at Moustache I was the only guy in the club with nine girls who were 8 and up (ok maybe one or two sevens) but I chose the one who kept making strong eye contact. Then when I called her over there was strong chemistry and ooooh that face (Eduarda).

I admit to having beer goggles and fully sober my 9. 5's might come down a hair. And I pulled Thifany from the 10 pedestal having spent a full week with her. But a solid 9 in any guys book fully sober. But damn, I feel damn lucky to have met these women. It doesn't seem real honestly for that type of talent to be within reach.

My advice — save all your money and go big in Brazil!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2236529]Rovnaks advice as usual is strong. But when he was making the point about pretty girls sometimes not having good service in other countries, the point was about Brazil being great service but even more so if you are a gentleman. He was not saying (I'm sure) don't go with the prettiest girl. I always went with the prettiest girl (by my estimation) and was never disappointed.[/QUOTE]Correct, I was not suggesting that there is any particular correlation or inverse correlation with looks and service. I was just saying, that one should look for the whole package, looks and service, not just looks (or not just service). The whole subject of men's' evaluation of women's looks intrigues me. I wish that on one night I could see how all the men were rating the looks of all the women there. It would be interesting. I know that I am constantly stunned by the girls that other guys are picking out of lineups and or posting photos. They say there is no accounting for taste and it really is true. I don't know if the guys that are picking girls that I consider to be below average in looks are doing so because they consider those girls to be hot looking or because they are going for service specifically and they don't care that much about looks? Or they did not get a good vibe from the better looking girls so they chose the less attractive chick instead? This is part of the reason I am hesitant to recommend anyone to anyone, I have no confidence that the other monger will see the same beauty that I see. Maybe we all think we chose the best looker. Even though we are all wrinkling our nose at what the other guy chose.

Personally I think "chemistry" is overrated or misidentified. Most of the time what you feel is chemistry is just the girl being good at her job and she has this "chemistry" with everyone.

I think it is amazing some of these girls are just so good that you feel it must be a special connection. That is why I try not to read gpguia reviews of my favorites because I want to pretend I am special when in fact they are basically the same with everyone.

[QUOTE=DoMat;2236831]Personally I think "chemistry" is overrated or misidentified. Most of the time what you feel is chemistry is just the girl being good at her job and she has this "chemistry" with everyone.

I think it is amazing some of these girls are just so good that you feel it must be a special connection. That is why I try not to read gpguia reviews of my favorites because I want to pretend I am special when in fact they are basically the same with everyone.[/QUOTE]Haha, I disagree completely.

These girls are people, obviously have better chemistry with some over others.

Don't you have better chemistry, a better feeling with some girls over others?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2236878]Haha, I disagree completely.

These girls are people, obviously have better chemistry with some over others.

Don't you have better chemistry, a better feeling with some girls over others?[/QUOTE]Yes, I do. Then when I read reviews I notice that the girl has the same "chemistry" with almost everyone. The bad girls don't have chemistry with anyone.

But I always say that unless you fall in love, thinking you are special here is preferable to the truth. So go at it.

[QUOTE=DoMat;2236831]Personally I think "chemistry" is overrated or misidentified. Most of the time what you feel is chemistry is just the girl being good at her job and she has this "chemistry" with everyone.

I think it is amazing some of these girls are just so good that you feel it must be a special connection. That is why I try not to read gpguia reviews of my favorites because I want to pretend I am special when in fact they are basically the same with everyone.[/QUOTE]Chemistry / Vibe / Connection / Eye Contact / Mutual Attraction is not overrated it may or may not come to you but you know if when you see it and better yet when you feel it. I have mongered at various Hot Spots around the world. Sure Girls may come up to you and say anything but you have to know who just wants your $$$ verses who really wants to be with you. I have personally had girls specifically say they have been watching me and want to be with me and were not interested in others. I have been talking or hanging with other girls and have had girls specifically ask if I was with a particular girl because they wanted to be with me. Believe me I am not sex symbol.

And I have to say when it happens that the right girl approaches or gives me the eye or I feel a particular vibe during conversation that they want to be with me those have always been the most memorable experiences. In one case a girl came up to me and said she had been watching me talk to other girls but was intimidated and didn't feel she had a chance to be with me. It floored me that a WG would say that as well as how she approached me. We talked, and she genuinely seemed apprehensive but really wanted to be with me. Well I felt she did in fact want me, so I rewarded her by taking her to my hotel room. I thought I was going to get basic service going in, oh to my surprise, I didn't even ask but everything was offered to me and I mean everything! The vibe and attraction was so great she didn't want to leave (stayed all night) even though she eventually had to get home. Believe me I had the time of my life. I still think of her and others in similar circumstances all the time.

It may not happen all the time and at all venues you frequent but when mutual Attraction / Vibe / Chemistry appears go for it. You just have to recognize it because there are good Actresses out there trying to relieve you of your $$ and give bad service.

The Latin languages have a word simpatico. It doesn't translate well into English. It certainly doesn't mean sympathy. It doesn't mean likeable as defined by some dictionaries. The best description I found was the Urban Dictionary that kind of describes it as an alignment of vibe and a flow.

If you have experienced it with a P4P provider, you would know it. It's not that the transactional part of it has disappeared, but that the girl is giving you something more that can't always be described. P4P girls can have rough, distant existences. If they can find a moment of fun, pleasure and kindness with a guy, some of them really do appreciate it.

I can say most of my experiences have been transactional. Not necessarily bad, but not "simpatico". I have had a couple experiences in Brazil where the girl didn't want to leave. One that I met up with eighteen months later. They wanted to hang out with me at the beach or take me sightseeing. None of them took me to expensive restaurants or asked me to take them shopping. I can easily say when a Brazilian girl gives you a little more of herself you will know it. While they are great actresses, many Brasileiras are very warm and passionate.

Good conversation. Here is my perspective and a tally of this years chemistry. First let's define chemistry. To me it is the feeling that the other person is into you and really WANTS to be in that moment with you. To me the most amazing thing is that many professional and semi-pro girls who can GENERATE this somewhat on demand. And it is REAL at that time.

This is amazing. Turn the tables for a minute. There is a fat, gray, old lady who wants you to kiss her passionately and DATY her. You now need to do this AND make her believe that you are into her. Good luck! Men totally suck at this! And yet the top girls can absolutely do this. However, many pretty girls can not generate this as easily depending on your fatness grayness or oldness. Since it's really important to me, I choose to improve my odds by not being fat or gray (can't fix being old!) and it's generally worked for me.

So I think there is room for several POVs here, because:

1. Top girls can generate chemistry with anyone.

2. Many girls can generate it if you have a few points in your favor.

3. There are definitely occasions when a girl is truly into you for whatever reason and the chemistry is natural and beyond the minimum GFE threshold.

Next up- my chemistry tally for the year so far. Worldwide.