East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1762096]Hey Foxes. I recently had a very bad experience in SCAMHAI. I would strongly urge you to take your business elsewhere. The problem in SCAMHAI is that you have to worry about the police and about the massage place itself. If that's not enough and you are unfortunate enough to contact a lady off Shanghai Nighlife Guide, she will SHORT YOU on time. The owner is non-responsive so I guess the best you could do is roll the dice with backpage. Though not optimal, at least you arent getting ripped a new AHOLE.

Do a google search on Shanghai SCAMS do avoid any issues. Even though I RTFF, I still learned the hard way.

See you in September!

H1.[/QUOTE]Hobbies,

I've read your recent posts and in my opinion you deserved it. And no, I definitely won't see you in September.

Thanks Steven, seems I'll have to give the saunas a try.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1762096]Hey Foxes. I recently had a very bad experience in SCAMHAI. I would strongly urge you to take your business elsewhere. The problem in SCAMHAI is that you have to worry about the police and about the massage place itself. If that's not enough and you are unfortunate enough to contact a lady off Shanghai Nighlife Guide, she will SHORT YOU on time. The owner is non-responsive so I guess the best you could do is roll the dice with backpage. Though not optimal, at least you arent getting ripped a new AHOLE.

Do a google search on Shanghai SCAMS do avoid any issues. Even though I RTFF, I still learned the hard way.

See you in September!

H1.[/QUOTE]Well, what you are saying is pretty much true everywhere in China, not just Shanghai.

Because last time I checked, prostitution is still illegal in ALL of China. (excluding Hong Kong & Macau SAR, which got to keep most of their own laws).

Regardless of any city you go in mainland China, you will always be worried about the police busting in the door the next minute whether you are mongering or not.

That's why it's still called a police state.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1762096]Hey Foxes. I recently had a very bad experience in SCAMHAI. I would strongly urge you to take your business elsewhere. The problem in SCAMHAI is that you have to worry about the police and about the massage place itself. If that's not enough and you are unfortunate enough to contact a lady off Shanghai Nighlife Guide, she will SHORT YOU on time. The owner is non-responsive so I guess the best you could do is roll the dice with backpage. Though not optimal, at least you arent getting ripped a new AHOLE.

Do a google search on Shanghai SCAMS do avoid any issues. Even though I RTFF, I still learned the hard way.

See you in September!

H1.[/QUOTE]Man,

Walk your talk and shut up.

Really wonder how old you are.

Lev.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1762096]Hey Foxes. I recently had a very bad experience in SCAMHAI. I would strongly urge you to take your business elsewhere. The problem in SCAMHAI is that you have to worry about the police and about the massage place itself. If that's not enough and you are unfortunate enough to contact a lady off Shanghai Nighlife Guide, she will SHORT YOU on time. The owner is non-responsive so I guess the best you could do is roll the dice with backpage. Though not optimal, at least you arent getting ripped a new AHOLE.

Do a google search on Shanghai SCAMS do avoid any issues. Even though I RTFF, I still learned the hard way.

See you in September!

H1.[/QUOTE]H1,

Please crawl back under whatever rock you came out from. You can't even keep your word (never again contributing to this forum). Someone that doesn't even know taxi drivers in China don't speak English has no business giving any advice on anything related to anywhere in China.

[QUOTE=Foxes;1761850]Hi there,

I have been mostly a passive user here and also a bit shy to actually go out and experience the mongering for many reasons but recently I got horny to often and went to explore. Some things I would like to share and some questions I'd like to ask.

In Shanghai I went to spring massage on Changning Lu / Loushanguan Lu, another one 200 m west from there. It was actually a bit boring and not worth the $$ as the girls weren't that hot and a bit mechanic.

I heard good things about Buddha and went there 3 weeks ago. Got number 5. Not the youngest anymore (maybe around 30) and not the skinniest but very attractive face and very confident expression. At first I was like *oh crap*, but then I though she looks like she knows what she is doing. Her BBBJ was in fact fantastic and even though I we couldn't communicate due to my crappy Chinese skills she was making me feel very welcome and showed a lot of interest. Price was 268.

Now, what made me a bit uncomfortable lying there getting my lollipop treated well was the entire situation about the police. Everywhere I read people say its windy. During that week even some oil massage places were closed and I saw some police cars in front of a massage place on south Shaanxi lu / Changning lu (not far from Buddha). While in the massage places and in Buddha, the girl always put a little wooden stick into a small hole at the bottom of the door to jam it. That made me feel a bit more comfortable but what would happen if there is a raid? Would the cops crack in the door? Also I read on Stevens site that if there's no condom, its technically not a crime they can charge on you. In Buddha its all BBBJ so should I feel okay? Maybe I am just a bit paranoid but I am actually quite scared to end up in prison, pay a fine and being deported while losing the job and being the topic in your entire company. Actually that day I went to Buddha, once we were finished somebody was talking loudly through the door and the girl was listening but being very quiet with her ears up.

Is there maybe a certain weekday or hour in which the possibility of a raid would be lower? LOL. Kind of a stupid question.

I then went on a trip to HK and prostitution being generally legal there I had a great time with several girls, especially not having to think of a possible cop jumping inside the room.

Now back in SH, getting horny again and I must say, this mongering gets me quite addicted but I don't want to risk anything or feel uncomfortable during the time I should enjoy. I tried girls from Judy's a few months ago and it was fine but taking them home doesn't work either, since I am not alone in my apartment all the time. I also had Cecilia over some times (small Cambodian girl from Vietnam, which I actually directed to Steven) but I can't afford to spend too much and I think she's not in SH anymore.

Anyways. Any thoughts? Or should I get a membership for better communication though PM. I mean, would I have access to some options and info that make me feel less paranoid?

Thanks,

F[/QUOTE]I agree with Steven's advice regarding saunas being safer than MP's. I was in a sauna when the call came in to shutdown as the LE would be coming. From the time of the call until I actually left had to be more than 30 minutes (my girl finished the session, just in a bit of a rush). When I did leave, there was still no signs whatsoever of LE, and as this place was near my home, I hung around (or should I say walked home slowly) and still didn't see anything other than all the girls leaving.

For sure, if you want specific advice, pay the small membership fee for pm's.

Cheers,

Taz.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1762096] ...unfortunate enough to contact a lady off Shanghai Nighlife Guide, she will SHORT YOU on time. The owner is non-responsive...
H1.[/QUOTE]Boo F' n Hoo.

Everyone here feels very bad for your losing a little time. You should go to the police and report this theft.

Has anyone been to the 1808 Beijing Rd West Massage place? I'm wondering if BBBJ has been added to the menu. Pm please.

[QUOTE=Tazman099;1762319]I agree with Steven's advice regarding saunas being safer than MP's. I was in a sauna when the call came in to shutdown as the LE would be coming. From the time of the call until I actually left had to be more than 30 minutes (my girl finished the session, just in a bit of a rush). When I did leave, there was still no signs whatsoever of LE, and as this place was near my home, I hung around (or should I say walked home slowly) and still didn't see anything other than all the girls leaving.[/QUOTE]So many saunas have been raided and closed the past years. Nothing is safe.

Sauna have high protection because of the money they generate but they become targets for the same reason.

While MPs are smaller and generate less cash, they are less exposed too because 90% of the session is clothed, no condoms or fancy toys / gels are involved, its really difficult to catch someone in the act since you just have to put the trousers back in one simple move. They also have warning systems (lights) in case of ongoing raid and some are better configured than others. Just like some have a good level of protection and its not uncommon during difficult times to suddenly have the lights close, main door closed and finish your session in the dark and go out when you finish through a back door. Because they got a warning call (sometimes they even evacuate you directly from the back door without finishing the session if they believe its a serious issue).

While a good level of protection is great against local police, it doesn't work so well when its clothed cops from another province which haven't been paid. Or sometimes even cops from another district of the same city.

That's what shuts a place most of the time. Because undercover cops are already inside, all the warning lights, secret doors, etc. Will do you no good. And when in a sauna with condoms and all sorts of fancy things, or lets say in the shower zone when the raid happens good luck defending your case.

[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;1762916]So many saunas have been raided and closed the past years. Nothing is safe.

Sauna have high protection because of the money they generate but they become targets for the same reason.

While MPs are smaller and generate less cash, they are less exposed too because 90% of the session is clothed, no condoms or fancy toys / gels are involved, its really difficult to catch someone in the act since you just have to put the trousers back in one simple move. They also have warning systems (lights) in case of ongoing raid and some are better configured than others. Just like some have a good level of protection and its not uncommon during difficult times to suddenly have the lights close, main door closed and finish your session in the dark and go out when you finish through a back door. Because they got a warning call (sometimes they even evacuate you directly from the back door without finishing the session if they believe its a serious issue).

While a good level of protection is great against local police, it doesn't work so well when its clothed cops from another province which haven't been paid. Or sometimes even cops from another district of the same city.

That's what shuts a place most of the time. Because undercover cops are already inside, all the warning lights, secret doors, etc. Will do you no good. And when in a sauna with condoms and all sorts of fancy things, or lets say in the shower zone when the raid happens good luck defending your case.[/QUOTE]Perhaps if the MP has been well established, but for example. For a very short time there were 5 MP's in a one block section of hongsongdong lu. They didn't last longer than a month.

Bottom line is there are risks associated with this hobby so it is all about mitigating them.

Taz.

Hi all,

Seems like this is not a good time to be mongering in SH due to the strong winds. Does anyone know (Steven?) if the winds are particularly strong in one area? Like Ming Hui / Puxi? Perhaps it is less windy in Pudong? Or same?

Thanks!!

Shanghai just keeps getting better!

Before it still had mountains of sweet sweet tender pussy, but the difference now is you can get it and then grab a panini and double espresso next door. Imagine in 5 years from now they'll probably serve you an espresso while you're getting a blowie.

Today was a scheduled PID (personal indulgence day) and since I've not been posting for many many moons, I thought I'd share some thoughts, experiences and location reports with my likeminded long black hair obsessed compadres.

The day started with a breakfast of Element Fresh, salad and eggs served by cute Chinese waitresses in short shorts.

After that it was a brief walk to Dragonfly for a legitimate massage to start the day's proceedings. The top to toe massage is RMB400 for an hour and involves two girls massaging in tandem in buddhistic surrounds replete with trickling water fountains, orchids and candles. Bliss.

After that I wanted to see if the old Prostate Massage was still happening on Kangding Lu and Xikang Lu. As it happened, the location still exists but the 'healthy' prostate massage service had been replaced by what appeared to be a stock-standard Shanghai style HJ massage parlour.

Well, that's what I thought! The first girl that knocked was a knockout - 25 YO with luscious breasts and a skirt just short enough to catch a snatch of her covered snatch. For those who've not been, the service begins with a back massage before the door is locked and the bra removed. Ass and ball play flow before a jelly type product is held between the teeth and rubbed over your back and ass, feeling similar to tongue.

Next the shirt comes down and later the underpants and a HJ follows. I declined to shoot as I had other plans, to which she feigned disappointment but eventually allowed me to wash up and move on.

On the way out I noticed I had probably selected the ugly ducking of the group. There are some seriously hot girls in this place. From about 18-25 and bodies like just like, fuck. Wow. I took down numbers on the way out. Do-go-there-now!

Next was panini and coffee, followed by a Godiva (yep, Shanghai evolved!

Then into the main event - 热28023; sauna (hot coast?) - details available in Shanghai Nightlife Guide for the dude Jimmy who is hooking up the foreign contingent something shocking. Get down on that shit.

This sauna is reminiscent of Changping sauna glory days. Pink lights and sexy chickens all over. Lots.

I chose a slightly chubby 18 YO and had a blast with her. She was right at the perfect time of her cycle with nice wet sticky juices. Serious the cup norgensteins and hair down to her ass. She started off a bit mechanical in the wet room but when the fucking started she was so so sweet. Just a delight, so willing and open.

My plan was to meet a girlfriend in the evening and hopefully nuzzle her sweet ass, but it seems her BF has her locked up for the evening. Oh well, absence makes the heart grow fonder as they say.

Thanks Shanghai! Still the best place in the world!!

Other than Blacklisted just now, and Sam a bit ago, this forum has been pretty devoid of new reviews. So here goes something.

DongGuang: I'm guessing this is the same place Blacklisted just commented on (Jason, the English speaking contact). I was just there this evening (Friday around 5:30).

* Simply not enough girls, on a Friday the total girls available - 14. Now for sure, this place is small, but not that small. At 5:30 I had a lineup of 6, 3 were "S" and 3 were "A" - no "be" at all (however, there was one S that was simply stunning. I probably should have taken her).

* Although I had been communicating with Jason, he was actually not there. A small fact he chose to leave out. About a week ago he had sent me a message with some 'early bird' pricing (before 7 PM). When I got there, the staff told me that was no longer available. I sent two messages to Jason with no reply. Simply not very professional.

Overall, the place is nice enough, but doubt I'll be back unless they get more girls. I don't go into that section of the city very often, and Kang Ding has a MUCH better selection. BTW, I have confirmed that Men's heaven is in fact Kang Ding. Upside there is having an English speaker.

No named place (honestly, I have no idea of the name):

Not far from Laowaijie, off of Wuzhong Lu just west of Middle ring. As I understand this was an operating Sauna until the end of last year (previous owner ran out of power.) and the new owner took over in Feb. So it is quite new inside. For those that have been following my reviews, my past favorite place was Dongsen (they are almost dead now). Well, my English speaking contact from there is now at this place. Prices start at 998 for 90 minutes, large selection, clean place.

Happy to provide additional information on any of the above via PM.

Cheers,

Taz.

Thanks for the report. What do you mean that Men's Heaven is the same as Kang Ding? They're two different locations right? So the same WG's travel between the two places? Or did you mean they have the same owner?

I like KD's quality but the value just isn't there for me (too expensive). Seems like there's a decent number of places that have great selection for about 880/980 which I prefer to go to.

[QUOTE=Tazman099;1763333]Other than Blacklisted just now, and Sam a bit ago, this forum has been pretty devoid of new reviews. So here goes something.

DongGuang: I'm guessing this is the same place Blacklisted just commented on (Jason, the English speaking contact). I was just there this evening (Friday around 5:30).

* Simply not enough girls, on a Friday the total girls available - 14. Now for sure, this place is small, but not that small. At 5:30 I had a lineup of 6, 3 were "S" and 3 were "A" - no "be" at all (however, there was one S that was simply stunning. I probably should have taken her).

* Although I had been communicating with Jason, he was actually not there. A small fact he chose to leave out. About a week ago he had sent me a message with some 'early bird' pricing (before 7 PM). When I got there, the staff told me that was no longer available. I sent two messages to Jason with no reply. Simply not very professional..[/QUOTE]

This was as useless as reviews go. What about specifics?

Let me give it to you a little better than TAZ. If any of you go into Shanghai now understand that the winds have changed direction. Last week Puxi and this week Pudong. Best advice. Keep your shorts around your kankles. Peace and Love! H1.

[QUOTE=Tazman099;1763333]Other than Blacklisted just now, and Sam a bit ago, this forum has been pretty devoid of new reviews. So here goes something.

DongGuang: I'm guessing this is the same place Blacklisted just commented on (Jason, the English speaking contact). I was just there this evening (Friday around 5:30).

* Simply not enough girls, on a Friday the total girls available - 14. Now for sure, this place is small, but not that small. At 5:30 I had a lineup of 6, 3 were "S" and 3 were "A" - no "be" at all (however, there was one S that was simply stunning. I probably should have taken her).

* Although I had been communicating with Jason, he was actually not there. A small fact he chose to leave out. About a week ago he had sent me a message with some 'early bird' pricing (before 7 PM). When I got there, the staff told me that was no longer available. I sent two messages to Jason with no reply. Simply not very professional.

Overall, the place is nice enough, but doubt I'll be back unless they get more girls. I don't go into that section of the city very often, and Kang Ding has a MUCH better selection. BTW, I have confirmed that Men's heaven is in fact Kang Ding. Upside there is having an English speaker.

No named place (honestly, I have no idea of the name):

Not far from Laowaijie, off of Wuzhong Lu just west of Middle ring. As I understand this was an operating Sauna until the end of last year (previous owner ran out of power.) and the new owner took over in Feb. So it is quite new inside. For those that have been following my reviews, my past favorite place was Dongsen (they are almost dead now). Well, my English speaking contact from there is now at this place. Prices start at 998 for 90 minutes, large selection, clean place.

Happy to provide additional information on any of the above via PM.

Cheers,

Taz.[/QUOTE]

Some members prefer to supply specific information via PM to those that are respectful of China and of the forum. One massage parlor next to a police station was closed after too may details of the service were disclosed. There is nothing wrong with debate or disagreement in this forum. After all. We all are looking to take care of a basic need. If one comes off showing disrespect from the beginning then sympathy and help will not be forthcoming. Some members prefer to keep a low profile and only keep in touch with a few others. Some drop out altogether.