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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1522770]After being in offices, on public [b]tranny[/b], and then out to dinner at a nice spot, lower Suk or the oilies is a real let down looks wise.[/QUOTE]Look how the forum auto spelling corrector destroyed your sentence. It really should be switched off, Jackson.
If you are like me and want a pretty girl for Oily massage, I recommend walking up and down Sukhumvit Soi 24/1 between 7PM and 8PM. Really are quite a few lookers sitting outside the shops. I was specially impressed that most of the Boss Massage girls looked good. In the past I have been used to really struggling to find pretty ones, perhaps from arriving in the mid afternoon or just being at the wrong establishments.
Very pretty slightly dark skinned girl was sitting outside All Stars. So naturally I asked for her. I was then told she is scared of big size. I explained I was a very gentle guy liking soft and slow and no sadist. No use, she asked me very directly is my dick size big or small. I did not want to say big, so said its not small. I was rejected, which is interesting as shows that some shops give the girls ability to choose customers for one reason or another. I guess she wanted Japanese or Korean customers. Pity as very pretty. Name may have been Pat or could have miss-heard. Others girls at same shop said they would be very keen for a big one, but unfortunately they did not have the slim body and as good pretty face. There was on other girl there that looked fairly good.
Moving on selected one of the Boss girls May, sitting outside, maybe too quickly. In future I will ask for a line-up and gauge the girl's body language even if I know which one I want. Sort of blondish brown hair with a few green streaks. Good slim body. Turns out that May was not very talkative and hardly looking at me on the way to the room. In the shower not playful. Massage started but her movements were a bit quick. Massaged back then legs and then back to the back again. I was thinking, she already did the back. Seems to be killing time. I detected something was wrong with her neck movements. She explained that she had Botox injections under the chin and in fact all girls had had them to improve face / jawline looks it seems. She was aching and hence the lack of real desire to work. Showed me pics of her face before and after botox injections. I could not really see any difference. She was already good looking before.
Eventually she gave me a nice soft dick and balls massage, and we got into the sex. As the sex progressed she started to change (like starting to have a good time) and maybe had eventually forgotten her neck. Pussy was a very good fit and she spread her legs and raised them a bit to make it all easy. Was a very enjoyable fuck, mind you had not got one for 2 days. By the end of the session she was all smiles (missing initially) and much more talkative. So the poor chemistry initially had been completely turned around. I offered to give her a nice DATY next time, and she said she would like that.
Apparently her poor mood at the start had nothing to do with me, and merely suffering from the botox injections. Just shows that influences outside our control can have big negative impact on sessions, and girls are not always in a consistent mood. Perhaps could be great performer. Very fuckable at least. Needs to be re-assessed.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1523221]If you are like me and want a pretty girl for Oily massage, I recommend walking up and down Sukhumvit Soi 24/1 between 7PM and 8PM. Really are quite a few lookers sitting outside the shops. I was specially impressed that most of the Boss Massage girls looked good. In the past I have been used to really struggling to find pretty ones, perhaps from arriving in the mid afternoon or just being at the wrong establishments.
Very pretty slightly dark skinned girl was sitting outside All Stars. So naturally I asked for her. I was then told she is scared of big size. I explained I was a very gentle guy liking soft and slow and no sadist. No use, she asked me very directly is my dick size big or small. I did not want to say big, so said its not small. I was rejected, which is interesting as shows that some shops give the girls ability to choose customers for one reason or another. I guess she wanted Japanese or Korean customers. Pity as very pretty. Name may have been Pat or could have miss-heard. Others girls at same shop said they would be very keen for a big one, but unfortunately they did not have the slim body and as good pretty face. There was on other girl there that looked fairly good.
Moving on selected one of the Boss girls May, sitting outside, maybe too quickly. In future I will ask for a line-up and gauge the girl's body language even if I know which one I want. Sort of blondish brown hair with a few green streaks. Good slim body. Turns out that May was not very talkative and hardly looking at me on the way to the room. In the shower not playful. Massage started but her movements were a bit quick. Massaged back then legs and then back to the back again. I was thinking, she already did the back. Seems to be killing time. I detected something was wrong with her neck movements. She explained that she had Botox injections under the chin and in fact all girls had had them to improve face / jawline looks it seems. She was aching and hence the lack of real desire to work. Showed me pics of her face before and after botox injections. I could not really see any difference. She was already good looking before.
Eventually she gave me a nice soft dick and balls massage, and we got into the sex. As the sex progressed she started to change (like starting to have a good time) and maybe had eventually forgotten her neck. Pussy was a very good fit and she spread her legs and raised them a bit to make it all easy. Was a very enjoyable fuck, mind you had not got one for 2 days. By the end of the session she was all smiles (missing initially) and much more talkative. So the poor chemistry initially had been completely turned around. I offered to give her a nice DATY next time, and she said she would like that.
Apparently her poor mood at the start had nothing to do with me, and merely suffering from the botox injections. Just shows that influences outside our control can have big negative impact on sessions, and girls are not always in a consistent mood. Perhaps could be great performer. Very fuckable at least. Needs to be re-assessed.[/QUOTE]got to hand it to you. You are far more patient than me. The minute that door closes I want a tongue jammed in my throat and want to be going at it like wild animals.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1523264]got to hand it to you. You are far more patient than me. The minute that door closes I want a tongue jammed in my throat and want to be going at it like wild animals.[/QUOTE]Sure. Normally I skip the massage or just allow a bit of body massage. I often say lets have the massage at the end, and then it does not eventuate. LOL I am actually not into real massage at all. However when the chemistry is not appearing to be going good I decided to give her time to warm up to me. Paid off in the end. I could have been very demanding and got a terrible session. If I repeat, I will skip the massage next time. Still she would not be of interest to a Goatscrot.
I remind you that these are not PSE shops (except Cherry in this street) where you expect full on sex from go to woe. Most of these shops the girl expects to actually fuck for a small portion of the session normally. I do fuck for much longer than girls usually expect. PSE type of guys should not be interested in these shops. I am trying to pick up a collection of new pretty and great body GFE type of girls. Its a bit hit and miss. Sometimes get a fairly good one.
Name me a stunning slim but curvy PSE girl available at the moment with no sillies, and I will be interested.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1523269]Sure. Normally I skip the massage or just allow a bit of body massage. I often say lets have the massage at the end, and then it does not eventuate. LOL I am actually not into real massage at all. However when the chemistry is not appearing to be going good I decided to give her time to warm up to me. Paid off in the end. I could have been very demanding and got a terrible session. If I repeat, I will skip the massage next time. Still she would not be of interest to a Goatscrot.
I remind you that these are not PSE shops (except Cherry in this street) where you expect full on sex from go to woe. Most of these shops the girl expects to actually fuck for a small portion of the session normally. I do fuck for much longer than girls usually expect. PSE type of guys should not be interested in these shops. I am trying to pick up a collection of new pretty and great body GFE type of girls. Its a bit hit and miss. Sometimes get a fairly good one.
Name me a stunning slim but curvy PSE girl available at the moment with no sillies, and I will be interested.[/QUOTE]Sadly, there are just not a lot of good looking PSE oily gals around at this time. Hell, there are not a lot of good looking PSE gals anywhere in BKK. Too bad Cherry at Snow is such a dead lay. She is a pretty good looking gal. Snow probably has the best looking lineup at the moment, but with the variance in performance, I am afraid to try a lot of the new chicks.
I certainly miss Mango's glory days. Cherry was just unreal back in the day. Tulip never did have a lot of beauties but made up for it with extremely good service from all the gals.
Ploy almost fits the bill but just can't bring myself to hit Bamboo again with that 500 baht butt penalty Bam has instituted (although I think Ploy is not A+ there). Not that I can't afford to pay it, just one of those things with me.
Gogos require far more interaction than I want. Used to love them when I moved here, but now I get to Cowboy once or twice a year despite living right across Suk.
As a result I just don't partake like I used to. If I can't find what I want, I would rather pass.
after traveling across apac and sampling some of the other goodies available i was happy to come back home to bangkok last week and fixed an overnight date with bo from bamboo. bo asked if i wanted 2 ladies and of course was happy for her to choose a girl she likes to go with. after my previous epic experience with bo and cheer at the shop i had assumed a repeat performance was about to happen. secretly i had prepared for it having bought a very high quality vibrator in singapore. paul, you really started a trend!
anyway i went to the shop at 8. 30pm to pick up bo and my other mystery date and was greeted warmly by bam who i still have the hots for.
cheer was sitting in the entrance and immediately took hold of me. the surprise came when bo introduced another girl who i had seen on the website and who i thought looked very nice. her name is pink. pink actually looks better in real life than on the website. cheer wasn't really ready to let go and for a short time i considered taking all 3 girls home. the talk was getting out of hand with bam suggesting maybe 4 and i jokingly agreed on the condition that she would come along as well. we had some good laughs all round and finally bo, pink and myself left the shop and went first for dinner at the issan night club i had visited once before with ice from mango and bo. the place is good fun a big stage with a relatively good life show, cheap drinks and acceptable food. it was still relatively early and the place had not yet filled up. bo ordered food and the chang beer promotion girl sold us a big draft container of beer. bo and i of course are old friends and very comfortable with each other but pink was a bit on the shy side. she is very cute and and has a nice face and figure. bo explained that pink is her best friend who travels with her everywhere. apparently pink was also with bo and ice together in singapore last year. the more time we spent in the club the more relaxed pink became and i was at great pains not to favor one girl over the other. pink is very much a gfe and likes to cuddle and have body contact. around midnight it was time to leave the club which now was in full swing and head back to my condo.
there bo took the first round and almost immediately afterwards passed out on the settee. that left pink and myself to get to know each other better. as i said she is very much gfe and really brought my tender side. she has a very nice body with nice full natural tits. i scored the first goal bringing her to a good orgasm through all round always popular daty technique. this was all real as she was sopping wet in no time. we went through all the positions and i got a very nice bbbj from her. obviously i tried to find out if anal was on the menu but she is not into that which since everything else was of superior performance was not a big issue for me.
finally we managed to get bo of the settee into bed and all went to sleep with me alternatively spooning with both girls and enjoying the closeness of their young bodies. bo eventually pulled away and curled into a ball and was out for the count whereas pink really liked to snuggle. when i woke up both of them were still fast asleep with pink getting attentive to my needs and i tried out the new vibrator. this toy which is a rabbit design and carries the brand name lelo is quite a cut above the usual cheap toys. it has not only got an incredible speed range but it also has different movement and pulse settings. after a really good and caring blow job i used the toy on pink who almost fainted as she came so hard. bo slowly woke up as well and was not in great shape as she now has realized that chang beer does not agree with her.
still after coffee she was sufficiently back to her usual self and now also wanted to be f*ked as she normally is the horniest after waking up.
we had a wild session with me pounding her butt while the rabbit was firmly in her pussy. being sandwiched and the vibration meant neither of us lasted long and we both came a the same time in a glorious finish.
early afternoon both of them took their leave and went back to the shop.
this report however is not so much about bo but about pink. she is a really nice 28 year old lady with a more demure personality which however turns very passionate when handled correctly. anybody wanting to try her should do so soon since both bo and her will leave for kuala lumpur at the beginning of february. yesterday i had a long 1-2-1 with bo which was needed since she had not been in top form that previous weekend and we had to make up for it. i also promised to see pink before she leaves. she really was a great experience and i am adding her to my list of regulars.
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very pretty slightly dark skinned girl was sitting outside all stars. so naturally i asked for her. i was then told she is scared of big size. i explained i was a very gentle guy liking soft and slow and no sadist. no use, she asked me very directly is my dick size big or small. i did not want to say big, so said its not small. i was rejected, which is interesting as shows that some shops give the girls ability to choose customers for one reason or another. i guess she wanted japanese or korean customers. pity as very pretty. name may have been pat or could have miss-heard. others girls at same shop said they would be very keen for a big one, but unfortunately they did not have the slim body and as good pretty face. there was on other girl there that looked fairly good.
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a woman's pussy-size can increase as a result of giving birth by natural means. that's why older massage ladies are usually better for guys with big size.
guys with small dicks are adapted well to take on the young, tight ladies. but their advantage turns into disadvantage when the lady has some children and her pussy-size increases. because their dicks become too small for her. neither the lady nor the guy enjoy having sex in this kind of a situation.
and this is where guys with big dicks come in. they are adapted well to take on the bigger, older ladies and perhaps stay with them for a long time. there is an evolutionary advantage in such a match. because when the lady already had some children, then she has proven her fertility and ability to have more children. it makes evolutionary sense to have a population of guys who are especially adapted for such women.
guys with small dicks are adapted to younger women. while guys with big dicks are adapted to older women. and neither type of guy does well, when he strays outside of his natural adaption and goes for ladies who aren't a good match for him.
i used to doubt that a guy's dick size was a real issue for ladies, until a lady i was with had to go to a doctor and get some treatment for injuries she received as a result of having sex with me. condoms make this kind of thing worse. because condoms reduce friction for the guy but increase friction for the lady, especially when the lubrication dries out. the guy ends up banging the lady harder, which may cause scrapes and bruises inside the lady's vagina.
[quote]A woman's pussy-size can increase as a result of giving birth by natural means. That's why older massage ladies are usually better for guys with big size.[/quote]
Yes I agree to some extent. Usually girls with baby already are best suited to me, as often can get it all in with no difficulties. Fortunately, many bargirls have already had a baby before they are of legal age, so girls don't have to be that old. One Suzie Wong girl aged late 20s had her first baby last year. After that was much easier for me to fuck her. With very tight girls, I just have to take it very gradually, starting with only half penetration.
I am not sure that the length of the vagina really increases that much with child birth, so some mothers can still be a bit short in the internal length aspect. Doesn't feel as good as cannot get the entire dick in there as less action on the base and balls etc. Some girls with baby are still too tight. May have been cut in childbirth and sewn up again a bit too tight.
The average age of mothers I am doing is probably only 23 to 25. Requiring pretty girls with great bodies tends to keep the age down a bit. Too many Thai girls are going fat before the age of 35. Even Bo at Cherry is not quite as toned as she used to be. Not fat at all but definitely a few extra kilos.
Years ago knew a Soapy girl with child and with a cavenous pussy. Although pretty, voluptuous, intelligent, and very accomplished with foreign languages having lived in Switzerland, I think she would really struggle to find a boyfriend as really my dick just flopped around inside there with no grip on it at all. Guess she would need to become an anal specialist to have any hope of getting regular customers. Perhaps she could find a guy with a huge salami but it narrows the field a lot.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1523624]Yes I agree to some extent. Usually girls with baby already are best suited to me, as often can get it all in with no difficulties. Fortunately, many bargirls have already had a baby before they are of legal age, so girls don't have to be that old. One Suzie Wong girl aged late 20s had her first baby last year. After that was much easier for me to fuck her. With very tight girls, I just have to take it very gradually, starting with only half penetration.
I am not sure that the length of the vagina really increases that much with child birth, so some mothers can still be a bit short in the internal length aspect. Doesn't feel as good as cannot get the entire dick in there as less action on the base and balls etc. Some girls with baby are still too tight. May have been cut in childbirth and sewn up again a bit too tight.
The average age of mothers I am doing is probably only 23 to 25. Requiring pretty girls with great bodies tends to keep the age down a bit. Too many Thai girls are going fat before the age of 35. Even Bo at Cherry is not quite as toned as she used to be. Not fat at all but definitely a few extra kilos.
Years ago knew a Soapy girl with child and with a cavenous pussy. Although pretty, voluptuous, intelligent, and very accomplished with foreign languages having lived in Switzerland, I think she would really struggle to find a boyfriend as really my dick just flopped around inside there with no grip on it at all. Guess she would need to become an anal specialist to have any hope of getting regular customers. Perhaps she could find a guy with a huge salami but it narrows the field a lot.[/QUOTE]I find very few Thai chicks that even know what a kegel is. Most of the issues you guys are talking about can be overcome with kegels. It is especially valuable after childbirth. Funny thing is almost all the women I had back home in the US prided themselves on great vaginal muscle control. Here it is almost non-existent. Men can benefit from strengthening the pc muscles as well.
Sadly the fitness culture has not really taken off here. I am seeing more and more good looking gals in the gym these days, but Thai dudes still like "skinny fat" girls. Thin chicks with no muscle tone. If a gal is toned she is mistaken for a katoey.
Personally I am not a fan of gals that have had kids. Really screws up the bod. My best performers have been girls in their very late 20s to early 30s who have not had kids and take care of themselves.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1523637]I find very few Thai chicks that even know what a kegel is. Most of the issues you guys are talking about can be overcome with kegels. It is especially valuable after childbirth. Funny thing is almost all the women I had back home in the US prided themselves on great vaginal muscle control. Here it is almost non-existent. Men can benefit from strengthening the pc muscles.[/QUOTE]I have never heard of a Kegel. Can you be a little more expansive?
You would probably like my favourite Noi at dollhouse. Skinny toned and great pussy squeeze box. No anal through. Maybe No. 23? I forget. No anal though. With a pussy that squeezes, anal seems superfluous. Super shaped ass.
Just came out of Boss Massage on Soi 24/1 after good GFE session. 7 girls sitting outside ranging from well above average to stunning (Belle). Never been to an Oily with such a high percentage of girls with looks to my spec. Don't expect any PSE here though.
I don't do the PSE shops unless can get a pretty good looker with good Gfe expected too.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1523686]Just came out of Boss Massage on Soi 24/1 after good GFE session. 7 girls sitting outside ranging from well above average to stunning (Belle). Never been to an Oily with such a high percentage of girls with looks to my spec. Don't expect any PSE here though.
I don't do the PSE shops unless can get a pretty good looker with good GFE expected too.[/QUOTE]How are the bodies at Boss Massage? Childbirth-free? Your preference for post-childbirth girls is the exact opposite of mine. I can't stand any visible signs of childbirth.
[QUOTE=*****man;1523694]How are the bodies at Boss Massage? Childbirth-free?[/QUOTE]I am not magic. The girls sitting outside were clothed. My session girl has a child but no stretch marks and still tight pussy. Tits not saggy. Have to start the fucking gently. Most guys would not know she has a child however she told me.
It's extremely unrealistic to expect any Oily to be childbirth free. Specific girls, yes that is possible.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1523696]I am not magic. The girls sitting outside were clothed. My session girl has a child but no stretch marks and still tight pussy. Tits not saggy. Have to start the fucking gently. Most guys would not know she has a child however she told me.
It's extremely unrealistic to expect any Oily to be childbirth free. Specific girls, yes that is possible.[/QUOTE]Most oily girls seem to have babies. That's the main reason I prefer soapie girls who tend to be baby-free.
[QUOTE=*****man;1523702]Most oily girls seem to have babies. That's the main reason I prefer soapie girls who tend to be baby-free.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. All my recent favourite Soapy girls (last few years) had no baby. However I have been having a hard time to find any new favourites over last year or more. Many are dick scared (pussy too small). Many expect a very quick fuck. CBJ is starting to creep into various places. GFE not plentiful. Memorable performances? I forget. Baby-free has never been a requirement for me.
I will take girls from any source if they are pretty have good body and a great GFE performance. Its then just the time, effort, and probability to find what you look for.
Every GF I ever had who already had a baby was much better on the bed than the baby-free ones. Could be just co-incidence.