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Pretty much kissing and bareback is like the ultimate dream service that most guys want cause its hard service to find as like you girls hate doing it but some do it out of necessity as if that's what the market or location they are working demands it. In US if a kgirl doesn't offer at least kissing she's pretty much out of business.

As for the nipple sucking thing. Its just a service item that all kgirls do. Heck even in korean movies in any sex scene sucking on each others tits is part of the rule.

As to this day I have never met any hooker who loved fucking us. So love might be too strong a word. I say don't mind the service.

[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1921795]If DFK means deep French kissing and bareback means no condom during sex then I wouldn't do that even if she offered. I don't like kissing them unless I know I'm the first customer. And I never do bareback with a working girl. Not sure if I could've done CIM. I usually can't last long when it's s new experience so I had to shove it in her box before I shot. And I'm older so shooting twice is hard to do.

But she did give a good BJ and seemed into the sex even though I didn't last long.

BTW, do all Korean chicks love sucking on a guy's nipples? I hate that but the fluffed and my chick loved doing it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1921199]No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.[/QUOTE]Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?

LM

I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000￦+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.

I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.

Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.

My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.

Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:

(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.

(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.

(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.

(4) Search near college cities for SPs.

(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.

(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.

(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.

[QUOTE=LunchMeat;1922335]Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?

LM[/QUOTE]None of you would have noticed the hands without the flash anyway LOL.

That's her lube bottle.

[QUOTE=SeoulSex;1922578]I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000￦+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.

I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.

Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.

My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.

Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:

(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.

(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.

(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.

(4) Search near college cities for SPs.

(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.

(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.

(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.[/QUOTE]We're fighting a losing battle on this, but the best we can do is to continue giving these tips.

Things have become so bad that Thai and Filipina girls are flying over to Seoul for short holidays where they charge $200+ per shot to gullible punters. 99% of those girls couldn't even make that kind of money for an overnight back in their countries, but too many foreigners in Korea thinking with their dicks and not their brains.

Had a brief email convo with one that was advertising on CL recently. She quoted me $200 per hour. I declined. She countered by informing me her rates are negotiable (as always LOL). I told her what I expected from a $200 punt. BBBJ, CIM, multiple shots, all in the 1 HR. No response from her LOL.

Heck, even the white girls on MR are now offering sub $200 rates (170-180 k at last check), I won't be trying them out, but I hope this trend will carry on.

The more desperate and clueless guys act, the more expensive and shitty the service will be.

Absolutely. The internet is mostly to blame for the state of the market.

The golden rule for everyone reading this is to never entice a SP with more pay. They should entice them with the promise of another visit. Whenever I follow through with that promise especially when I ask for them by name, the look on their face is priceless and they treat me like a VIP.

Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.

*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).

*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.

*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.

*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.

Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.

With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?

With online business for sex workers and tech savy hookers and agencies and more professionals with higher income visiting.

RLDs days are numbered. Maybe 30 yrs ago when no internet and officetels etc it was booming but those days are gone.

[QUOTE=RainMania;1922901]Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.

*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).

*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.

*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.

*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.

Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.

With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?[/QUOTE]

Had the day off so I figured I would see what I could get. I called and texted a few of the hugyetels advertized on sadan but they all said they don't serve foreigners. So I figured I would check the hill. I went around 1 oclock in the afternoon. Only on SP was available but she looked to be about 50. Wet to 588 and walked around. Most places are closed. The few girls who were out were on the older / larger side of my acceptable standards. Luckily my regular was still there. She treated me well and I had a good time as usual. She said 588 will be gone by September. She plans to move to Miari as Cheonho will be gone in short order too. Yes, RLDs are on the way out. We need to stick to our guns on price of indies or we will be relegated to 200 k anmas. Granted those are fun, but that is 3 RLD girls.

Stay safe and have fun!

Does anyone regularly visit Yeongdeungpo RLD?

I don't see much info on here about that RLD. Most seem to go to Miari Chenoho or 588.

[QUOTE=RainMania;1922676]We're fighting a losing battle on this, but the best we can do is to continue giving these tips.

Things have become so bad that Thai and Filipina girls are flying over to Seoul for short holidays where they charge $200+ per shot to gullible punters. 99% of those girls couldn't even make that kind of money for an overnight back in their countries, but too many foreigners in Korea thinking with their dicks and not their brains.

Had a brief email convo with one that was advertising on CL recently. She quoted me $200 per hour. I declined. She countered by informing me her rates are negotiable (as always LOL). I told her what I expected from a $200 punt. BBBJ, CIM, multiple shots, all in the 1 HR. No response from her LOL.

Heck, even the white girls on MR are now offering sub $200 rates (170-180 k at last check), I won't be trying them out, but I hope this trend will carry on.

The more desperate and clueless guys act, the more expensive and shitty the service will be.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you RainMania! Like the guy said. The best places are the one you find it in your own! I also know good places, but I'm only going to share it only with old mongers here by PM! Otherwise all will be screwed. Good luck.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1923230]Does anyone regularly visit Yeongdeungpo RLD?

I don't see much info on here about that RLD. Most seem to go to Miari Chenoho or 588.[/QUOTE]I live near there. The girls in Yeondeungpo RLD are notorious for ignoring foreigners, but the streetwalkers on the back street (across from Lotte Department Store) are more accessible.

[QUOTE=RainMania;1922901]Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.

*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).

*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.

*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.

*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.

Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.

With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?[/QUOTE]Doubt Anjong-ri outside of Humphreys will pick up the slack for working girls due to the Yongsan move. I think the good times are long gone.

I still remember how wild it was in 1980. I used to flip slides for the incoming USFK brass and they'd talk about the gonorrhea rate at the bars outside of Humphreys. Was estimated that 80% of the working girls in Anjong-ri had it then. In Itaewon, it was a mere 50% and the only times the Hill was deserted was on Korean holidays or the twice a year that USFK, in conjunction with Korean authorities, would load up the Itaewon hookers on buses, bring them to Yongsan and treat them for venereal diseases. Korean ladies have too much money to be street hookers or bar girls anymore. Curious why nobody posts about the bars outside the Humphreys gate. I assume most GIs now fly to the Phils to get pussy as airfare is cheap and a visa isn't required.

Just wanted to give some info on a Thai massage place in Suwon (ingye-dong) that I and my friends have visited a few times. All the girls are Thai. You tell the manager what kind of girl you are looking for and he will try to accommodate. He doesn't speak English well, but there is a worker there that does. The cost is 110,000 won. You go to a room and your girl will enter with the worker. If you don't like her, he will bring in another. You get 30 minutes with the girl. After you are finished, another girl will come in and give you a legit massage for another 30 minutes. It is very easy to find. Get off at Suwon city hall subway stop and go out exit 8. Walk down a couple of blocks until you see a Angel in Us coffee shop. Turn left and walk about 3 blocks. On your left you will see a building that has 37 degrees on the front. This is the building. There is no sign for the massage shop. Just go to the elevator and go up to the 3rd floor. It is right there. The place only opens at night around 9 pm.

[QUOTE=Koyangi;1923995]I live near there. The girls in Yeondeungpo RLD are notorious for ignoring foreigners, but the streetwalkers on the back street (across from Lotte Department Store) are more accessible.[/QUOTE]Do you mean across from Shinsegae? Where is Lotte department store?

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