Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=United1;2313212]Hello mates,

Went through several pages of RTFF and thanks for all the great info on Hong Kong. One question for the group, I am a bit of a timid monger (thought I have had my share of fun in SE Asia) and this is my first time to Mexico Tijuana. It seems that HK is the top end brothel in Tijuana. But how safe is the establishment. Is it safe to go with ladies into the rooms upstairs? Any threat of getting robbed, mugged or other issues? Any threat of a shake down by gangs or police in HK?

Is HK and the hotel clean, safe, equivalent to a 3 star hotel?

What about the neighborhood. Is it safe? I am planning on getting the VIP service to save on rooms, I will be there on Mon-Wed. I believe that comes with shuttle pick up service. Is it worth staying at the Marriott and then getting a room just to sex chicks at HK?

Sorry guys, realize how ridiculously these questions are. But I had really bad experience at a bordello in Malyasia a few years ago and now uber cautious. And just to confirm, the going rate is between $60-$100 for an hour, depending on the negotiations, correct?

Thanks mates, and I will make sure to report backs.

U1.[/QUOTE]United,

Only speaking on HK and things next to HK, Inside HK is very safe. I've never witness a fight in there, nor issues of violent crimes inside. Of the 3 years I've been there and being on this forum, I've read of one instance of a crime inside. As with any establishment, including Disneyland, there are outliers. But generally safe, clean and fun.

Going to the room with the ladies: If you get robbed leaving HK to Cascadas, you are way too drunk or too high, and such a jerk that the doorman, cabbies, and managers don't want to help you. You are literally turning right out one door and into the hotel. For further protection, have your girl in your left arm. LOL.

The rooms in Cascadas are clean. I like staying there for the purpose of quick access and costs (not having to pay each arriba for room). My issues with Cascadas are that the rooms are made to look good, and sometimes not necessarily functional, Ex: Some of the patch up work, for whatever their excuse, are duct tape and bubble gum Macgyver style. But, I usually just ignore it. The one time that I complain, they did accommodate me with a new room.

The pricing range seems appropriate.

Have fun and hope you will share your experience.

[QUOTE=United1;2313212]But how safe is the establishment. Is it safe to go with ladies into the rooms upstairs? Any threat of getting robbed, mugged or other issues? Any threat of a shake down by gangs or police in HK? Is HK and the hotel clean, safe, equivalent to a 3 star hotel? What about the neighborhood. Is it safe? I am planning on getting the VIP service to save on rooms, I will be there on Mon-Wed. I believe that comes with shuttle pick up service. Is it worth staying at the Marriott and then getting a room just to sex chicks at HK?And just to confirm, the going rate is between $60-$100 for an hour, depending on the negotiations, correct?[/QUOTE]As far as violent crimes inside HK, you are pretty safe. There were two shooting incidents that I know of. One about 7 years ago where a disgruntled ex-boxer was denied entry and came back and shot and killed the doorman. Another about 3 years ago around Christmastime where a patron was allegedly shot inside near the stage, then staggered outside and died on the sidewalk across the street. This second shooting is unconfirmed and there were many conspiracy theories flying around on whether the shooting truly did occur. As far as fights or anything like that, I've never heard of any inside HK. Security / meseros are quick to diffuse any potential violent confrontations. For being a bar with lots of drunk guys, the frequency of fights breaking out is surprisingly almost non-existent.

The only crime that occurs regularly inside HK is theft. Chicas, meseros, mongers, they all sometimes steal phones, wallets, purses, money, etc. So keep a close eye on your valuables.

As far as going upstairs, it is perfectly safe. The hotel entrance is maybe 12 feet from HK entrance. The only issues you might encounter are a chica scamming you on price / service or stealing valuables. Cascadas I would rate 2.5 - 3 star range. If this is strictly a mongering vacation forget the Marriott.

The neighborhood is not completely safe. The square block and immediate surroundings are relatively safe, mainly because of the fact that there are people everywhere. I would not recommend venturing outside the block at night. There are occasional targeted shootings of drug dealers within the immediate vicinity. These seemed to have curtailed a bit lately but a couple years ago it seemed to occur with alarming frequency. As long as you stay within the block, you will probably not get mugged, assaulted, robbed. Don't wear a gold chain though as there are thieves that may try to yank it and run. There are a lot of cops but their only motive is to rob the public so be careful. There are many desperate deportees in the area too. My best piece of advice is to never engage in conversation with any males on the street. If you do they may demand a tip for talking to them and hound you until you relent.

Most women working in Hong Kong have children. They just have amazing bodies, so it's hard to tell. Usually they'll have a tattoo of some kind for their kid, like their name. When they get their phones, they also might have a picture of their kid as their wallpaper.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2313067]Definitely try adelitas! They are much more open minded and MILF, it's almost impossible to find MILFs in HK. I have had better batting average to the greek islands in adelitas and much cheaper also..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=United1;2313212]Hello mates,

Went through several pages of RTFF and thanks for all the great info on Hong Kong. One question for the group, I am a bit of a timid monger (thought I have had my share of fun in SE Asia) and this is my first time to Mexico Tijuana. It seems that HK is the top end brothel in Tijuana. But how safe is the establishment. Is it safe to go with ladies into the rooms upstairs? Any threat of getting robbed, mugged or other issues? Any threat of a shake down by gangs or police in HK?

Is HK and the hotel clean, safe, equivalent to a 3 star hotel?

What about the neighborhood. Is it safe? I am planning on getting the VIP service to save on rooms, I will be there on Mon-Wed. I believe that comes with shuttle pick up service. Is it worth staying at the Marriott and then getting a room just to sex chicks at HK?

Sorry guys, realize how ridiculously these questions are. But I had really bad experience at a bordello in Malyasia a few years ago and now uber cautious. And just to confirm, the going rate is between $60-$100 for an hour, depending on the negotiations, correct?

Thanks mates, and I will make sure to report backs.

U1.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to visualize, but here goes. HK and the other bars are not brothels in the strict sense of the word. There are no rooms on-site. The law states you must leave the premises and go to a separate hotel. In practice, the businesses are immediately adjacent to one another. You walk out the door of one and immediately go into the door of the other. There is virtually no chance of being accosted in those few feet.

You will not get robbed or mugged inside the bar. You may get cheated by the waiters. They are notorious for not returning with change from large bills, shortchanging inebriated customers, taking partially consumed lady drinks from the tables, etc. , etc. But there is no danger of being robbed / beaten.

The area outside the bars is sketchy. You'll be fine on the main block of Coahuila, between Constitucion and Ninos Heroes. Also the alley behind the hotels. Don't wander away from that area.

The hotel is most definitely not a 3-star hotel. Between 1-star and 2-star would be more accurate. Getting a room to sleep in, such as the Marriott, and using a room at the bar's hotel for the girls, is a good idea, IMO.

The rates you mentioned would generally be for 30 minutes, not an hour, unless you are able to negotiate an hour. Spanish is very helpful in that regard.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;2313494]It's difficult to visualize, but here goes. HK and the other bars are not brothels in the strict sense of the word. There are no rooms on-site. The law states you must leave the premises and go to a separate hotel. In practice, the businesses are immediately adjacent to one another. You walk out the door of one and immediately go into the door of the other. There is virtually no chance of being accosted in those few feet.

You will not get robbed or mugged inside the bar. You may get cheated by the waiters. They are notorious for not returning with change from large bills, shortchanging inebriated customers, taking partially consumed lady drinks from the tables, etc. , etc. But there is no danger of being robbed / beaten.

The area outside the bars is sketchy. You'll be fine on the main block of Coahuila, between Constitucion and Ninos Heroes. Also the alley behind the hotels. Don't wander away from that area..[/QUOTE]The only time I saw a fight in Hong Kong was between ladies. I heard two ladies scream, then one jumped on top of the other and started throwing punches and pulling hair. Not long after every waiter near by (maybe 10-12) jumped in to pull them off each other held them back each other until the floor supervisor / manager came by. Just as soon as it started it ended. The waiters seem to be the first line of defense, should anyone try to start a fight. The owners of Hong Kong have spent a lot of time and dollars to build their reputation, if tourist were getting robbed or mugged while in their establishment people will stop coming. It works in their favor to keep the place safe, when someone gets robbed outside the club, the common advise is "Next time stay at Hong Kong".

Getting hustled is fair game and is part of being a tourist it happens all across the world. I don't like it when it happens to me or anyone else, but it's going to happen, best to learn from it and tell others common practices. Silver lining is at least you won't get hustled out of too much money in the club as long as you're smart about it. Best practice for me is to stick with one or two waiters. During my trips I buy all my drinks from them, tip them well and I get to know them a bit. They make sure when I am sitting down with a lady, that other guys don't try to but in and sell me other crap like lap dance coupons or food. This works best before the evening peak and everything is a free for all.

Trying get some good quality sleep in the hotel can be rough. They don't care about the noise the construction workers make when they are upgrading rooms and how early they start. Don't bother calling and complaining that you are hearing hammers starting at 7-8 am.

At night depending on what floor you are on you will hear people walking through the hallways, doors constantly opening and closing, music from outside until the late hour of the evening, and ladies moaning from other rooms. I swear you can hear some from the other side of the hallway. Which is why I love Latina ladies for being vocal in bed. It's not as fun when it's not in your bed and you are trying to sleep before the hammers start.

It wasn't until my third trip did I find out that the default negotiating time was 30 minutes unless you discuss that with them. Most of my sessions are 45-60 minutes. I do start off my time with them by offering to give them a massage, which helps me get a better time with them since it adds a bit of foreplay and better GFE. If there is good chemistry and the ladies are enjoying their time with you, they usually won't be clock watchers. There are ladies where it's all business and will start a timer on their phone when the session starts and will start letting you know to wrap it up when you around the 20-25 min mark.

Phorpan is correct. The price is 30 minutes not an hour, unless negotiated.

Planning on returning to the land of big butts and bolt one in a month. Anybody interested in joining? Debating either going next weekend or the first weekend of June. If any fellow mongers are considering trips and want to meet up PM me.

Long time lurker, first time posting. Thank you to all who have posted. It has been very useful reading.

I have RTFF back a few years but I don't recall seeing the answers to these questions.

I have stayed at the hotel twice for overnight stays, but never tried the spa. Is the massage service legit? Worth it?

If you stay for several days, do they clean the room? New sheets? New towels?

Gracias in advance for any responses.

Mr, Farenheit said it well. I have always felt comfortable in Hong Kong, getting to know a mesero is smart. I know I have said it before but sort your money beforehand so a 20 doesn't end up in a crack instead of a one dollar bill. For me it was worse ($50). As a Canadian it even felt worse. I took solace knowing it was a hot girl instead of a mesero.

Lesson learned.

Sr.

Gents,

Thanks for all the great info on the HK club. Very appreciate all the tips below. It seems like the HK is a safe place. Assumed it would be given its reputation. I am excited to venture.

I might come back with a few more questions. But thanks to all. And I will report back after my Tijuana trip.

[QUOTE=Holdmybeer;2313819]Long time lurker, first time posting. Thank you to all who have posted. It has been very useful reading.

I have RTFF back a few years but I don't recall seeing the answers to these questions.

I have stayed at the hotel twice for overnight stays, but never tried the spa. Is the massage service legit? Worth it?

If you stay for several days, do they clean the room? New sheets? New towels?

Gracias in advance for any responses.[/QUOTE]Never got to try the spa there, every time I went in they told me they were book for the day and it's best to make a reservation. Got a peak and the person who has working in the back and I wasn't impressed of what I saw. She seemed nice, but was not in the same league of the Hong Kong ladies. I would guess it's a legit and the person who is working there does have some kind of training or experience giving massages. Which is a good idea, I wouldn't want one of the ladies in Hong Kong trying to do their best imitation of a back or shoulder massage, only for them to blow my back out cause they don't know what they are doing.

One thing to account for when you stay in Tijuana for a few days is what to do during your resting periods between sessions. I can't speak for most guys, but I need a few hours to recharge after each arriba. I usually grab some food or take a nap, but also other things like shopping and legit massages. I heard there are massages they do provide extras, but I never been to one.

The longest I stay at the hotel is 2-3 days, they do not go into your room to clean anything up, which is something that I prefer. Pro tip is to don't call for fresh towels, the first thing I do is walk around the hallway and find a room cleaner and ask for some towels. Ask in Spanish for some bonus points, "tres toallas por favor" and give him a dollar. I like to have the extra towels ready in my room, when I need them.

If you need new sheets, unless you are in a Penthouse or other suite go the front desk in the morning and let them know you would like a new room and tip them some cash, more than the towel guy since this is a bigger favor, I give $5. They'll let you know when the room will be ready, and it's as easy as moving your things to a new clean room than having someone going through your stuff.

[QUOTE=Scudrucker;2313882]Mr, Farenheit said it well. I have always felt comfortable in Hong Kong, getting to know a mesero is smart. I know I have said it before but sort your money beforehand so a 20 doesn't end up in a crack instead of a one dollar bill. For me it was worse ($50). As a Canadian it even felt worse. I took solace knowing it was a hot girl instead of a mesero.

Lesson learned.

Sr.[/QUOTE]I did the same thing on my first trip to Hong Kong. I was sitting at the bar top and one of ladies came up and asked for dollar for grope, reached into my pocket and pocketed and pulled a $5 by mistake and she playfully took it. Here is my set up for bring cash in the club and staying organized.

- I have a bi-fold wallet with a money clip bar in the middle. I got it on Amazon for $30. I'm able to carry my hotel key card in it and my larger bills of $5 and $20 stay in the clip. The only time I pull the wallet out is when I need to pay for drinks or food outside the club.

- For my $1 I use black binder clips. What I do is I fold each dollar bill individually and use the blinder clip for a tight grip, it should look like a fan when you are done. When I go to the club, I can reach into my pocket and just pull a dollar out from the binder clip since they are wrapped individually and not folded together like a stack. This makes it's really easy for me to tip a $1 without having me reach into my pocket and pull out all my cash and run the risk of handing out the wrong bill, dropping money on the ground and showing the ladies how much money I am potentially carrying.

Fernanda at HK. Cute face, nice hair, cute tiny titties, fat dumpy ass. Negotiated a deal with extra service for extra pay. Upstairs she demanded to be paid upfront. You know where this is going. Did not get the agreed upon service. Did not get even the standard HK service. Got the shitty service of a shitty street girl worth about $12. Avoid this scammer.

[QUOTE=Holdmybeer;2313819]Long time lurker, first time posting. Thank you to all who have posted. It has been very useful reading.

I have RTFF back a few years but I don't recall seeing the answers to these questions.

I have stayed at the hotel twice for overnight stays, but never tried the spa. Is the massage service legit? Worth it?

If you stay for several days, do they clean the room? New sheets? New towels?

Gracias in advance for any responses.[/QUOTE]I've stayed multiple days and don't think they do "room maintenance" until you check out (hopefully?

You can request extra towels from meseros in the hallways doing laundry duty, dunno about sheets but could ask.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2313541]Phorpan is correct. The price is 30 minutes not an hour, unless negotiated.[/QUOTE]From my experience the ladies don't clock watch. The price is for a fuck I've taken up to 45 minutes without a complaint or times up. They're not like american working girls. Also I don't think paying for extra time is worth it. If the girl likes you she'll just stay on her own accord (which I've had happen a few times) and it just seems more rewarding when they just choose to stay. My point is don't worry about time. Just find a quality girl.