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Hi PM, that is good to know. What city are you in?
[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1745469]I have now lived in the Philippines for 12 hours. Cebu is my new home. Costa Rica, Sosua, Lake Chappala and finally (I hope) the Philippines. I plan to post information here that might be interesting to others who are planning to come to the Philippines. And from the perspective of someone 70 (young 70) years old. I will post each new subject with an appropriate subject line.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1745472]I called PAL before I came and asked if I needed a ticket OUT of the country when I made my reservation. They said NO. When I checked in for my flight at the airport they said I needed it. So I had to buy a refundable ticket for Hong Kong ($450) When I arrived here last night they could have cared less about a departing ticket. Conclusion is-no conclusion. I don't know what to say.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the Philippines, where consistency is not a valued trait. The law is that you must have a ticket out of here and it has been my experience that the check-in staff in the country from which you're departing will require a look at the ticket out of the Philippines; not because they really give a damn but because it's included in their checklist of requirements. I've never been asked for the ticket when arriving here, and I've now lived in country for about 11 years.
Let me know if you ever get the urge to explore Davao and I'll be glad to buy the first round.
GE.
[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1745472]I called PAL before I came and asked if I needed a ticket OUT of the country when I made my reservation. They said NO. When I checked in for my flight at the airport they said I needed it. So I had to buy a refundable ticket for Hong Kong ($450) When I arrived here last night they could have cared less about a departing ticket. Conclusion is-no conclusion. I don't know what to say.[/QUOTE]At check in, whether in US or BKK I have always been asked to show the exit ticket by all the airlines. No exit ticket no check in. I think the policy is if you get denied entry to the country then the airline has to fly you back at their expense. I like the idea of a refundable exit ticket for show.
About half the time I am asked to show the exit ticket at immigration. Half of the time of showing it I am waived on before I can show them. I imagine it depends on what counrty you are coming from. If you are from a third world country then they really want to see an exit ticket.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1745477]Welcome to the Philippines, where consistency is not a valued trait. The law is that you must have a ticket out of here and it has been my experience that the check-in staff in the country from which you're departing will require a look at the ticket out of the Philippines; not because they really give a damn but because it's included in their checklist of requirements. I've never been asked for the ticket
GE.[/QUOTE]The one place they seem to always insist on the out ticket policy is Hong Kong. Invariably if transiting through there the destination is CRK, if that means anything.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1745486]The one place they seem to always insist on the out ticket policy is Hong Kong. Invariably if transiting through there the destination is CRK, if that means anything.[/QUOTE]Most places in Asia ask (I have been asked in KL, BKK, HK for example) and it is truly a pain especially when you can get an extension legally from the BI in the city where you are staying. I was given a year visa the last time I entered (no idea why, maybe because I am so good looking?
When I leave Dubai I am never asked same in the UK and Europe. In Manila I am rarely asked and if I am I say " I am going soon just waiting for my client / company to say where and when, and if not soon I can always extend can't I?
That seems to work.
But I love that they ask as they sort of say "welcome to the Philippines, when are you leaving" LOL.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1745486]The one place they seem to always insist on the out ticket policy is Hong Kong. Invariably if transiting through there the destination is CRK, if that means anything.[/QUOTE]Bangkok had to go and get a copy from the Emirates desk, as I was having a short trip to LOS I did not carry my exit ticket from Phil with me but Cebu Pasific insisted on seeing it before booking me in.
Last month I had a ticket from EVA Air from Seattle to MNL and BKK to Seattle. I was going to buy my ticket in Philippines. At the airport they would not check me in without an exit ticket from Philippines. So, from my Iphone I bouth a Manila Phuket ticket from Cebu Pacific and got the information on my email. Then they insist to see a printed copy.
Than, I blew a fuse and they took me to their office and assist me to print it in their airport office. Moral of the story, you may need a back up plan if you are doing a multicity. Multi country trips.
[QUOTE=ColLaw;1745587]Bangkok had to go and get a copy from the Emirates desk, as I was having a short trip to LOS I did not carry my exit ticket from Phil with me but Cebu Pasific insisted on seeing it before booking me in.[/QUOTE]
If a traveler is denied entry to a country for some reason, my understanding, is that it is the airline that brought them to the country that has to return them to another country. Therefore it is in the airline's interest to ensure that passengers they are checking-in have the required documentation.
The really really big hole in all of this is that I use TripIt for my travel itineraries. When asked for proof of my return journey (which is often on a different carrier) and rarely on a 'return' ticket, I show them my TripIt app view on my iPhone.
That being said, my last exit from Brisbane, the agent made me carry a printed paper copy of my Manila exit tix.
That being said, I have never had a RP immigration officer ask for any proof of a return tix.
BD.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1745994]If a traveler is denied entry to a country for some reason, my understanding, is that it is the airline that brought them to the country that has to return them to another country. Therefore it is in the airline's interest to ensure that passengers they are checking-in have the required documentation.[/QUOTE]You are the one responsible for paying for your own deportation.
Upon arrival in phils, until about 3 years ago, they asked for my outbound / onward ticket *everytime* I didn't hand one to them. Since 3 years ago, its been about 50% of the times that they've asked for it. Don't know why the change at that time.
A few months ago arriving on KAL into Terminal 1, while deplaning, I could not find my full itinerary. I'd torn off the bottom half of the sheet of paper to write something on it, then lost it. I had only the inbound portion. I grabbed a KAL employee in the hallway and explained the situation. He took me to an office to print another for me. They found the itinerary, but could not get their printer working. He instead walked me to the front of an immigration queue and had the officer process my passport on his good word that I was outbound in 3 weeks. Stamp, stamp. "Enjoy Philippines sir". And I did.
Upon checkin with Korean Air in the US, they've insisted upon seeing my original credit card and my full itinerary (printed), so I can show it to phils immigration, [B]everytime[/B]. "Sir, you could be deported from Philippines if you don't have your printed onward ticket for the Immigration there".
Interesting. I travel nearly non-stop for business to more than 80 countries for the last 30 years or so and I have never been asked to show proof of exit.
Arriving maybe 50 times (give and take a few) into phils the last 3+ years I have never been asked for a returnticket by immigration. Checking in for the Manila leg in Oslo they have never asked me for a returnticket even if I don't return with same company or alliance than my outbound one(i often have multicity returns).
In BKK, if memory serves me right, I've been asked twice for my return ticket. If asked there will be no problem as I have allways a full changable / refundable ticket up my sleaves to show for if demanded. No printed initiary though. Never did I bring them. I believe I have been asked for the CC which I paid the trip with but only in MNL.
And Westie you are right about you have to pay your own deportation but your arriving airline are required to bring you back as soon as possible and in many cases this means, if their returnflight out of MNL are fully booked, they have to leave one paying customer behind. The settlement and cost of your deportation is made later as if you don't pay you will be denied entry into phils until you pay your debt.
So like, if I get a one-way ticket to the Philippines, there's a chance they could send me back?
What about the guys who just want to check out the place, have significant passive income and don't know how long they'll be there?
[QUOTE=ColLaw;1745587]Bangkok had to go and get a copy from the Emirates desk, as I was having a short trip to LOS I did not carry my exit ticket from Phil with me but Cebu Pasific insisted on seeing it before booking me in.[/QUOTE]Anytime anymore that I'm going in with no set departure, the remedy is just to get a Star Alliance reward ticket for the lowest reward mileage level, and then redeposit (no cost / penalty for Gold and 1 k).
[QUOTE=Skogis;1746034]Arriving maybe 50 times (give and take a few) into phils the last 3+ years I have never been asked for a returnticket by immigration. Checking in for the Manila leg in Oslo they have never asked me for a returnticket even if I don't return with same company or alliance than my outbound one(i often have multicity returns).
[/QUOTE]Skogis - Immigration is not responsible for looking at the return ticket. The airlines have this responsibility to verify that a person with a 1 way ticket has a exit ticket (they won't ask if you have a round trip ticket).
Like Skogis I have spent tweny years going in and out of Asian and African airports and never, but never asked about a return ticket. Add the USA and Canada also.
Manila is one of the more relaxed airports. The country needs tourism!