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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1925555]Are 10 pro girls that's special to be so hard to get?

I wouldn't risk going through all the effort and wads of cash to end up with dud. Looks hot but with less than average BJ and clockwatcher etc.[/QUOTE]Supposedly, 10 pros aren't in it for the "money".

Their motivation is the opportunities and networking options their clients can offer. These girls are the ultimate social climbers, they know how to milk whatever they want from their admirers with ruthless efficiency. Cars, homes, businesses, bank accounts, marriages, you name it, they've probably got one sponsor for each.

I'd say I personally don't know any 10 pros, but I've met my fair share of pretenders, and I've heard more than enough stories of this businessman pouring tens of thousands on one girl. Not for me thank you.

The pussy and service is most probably on point, and like I said earlier, the value of pussy is what the punter is willing to pay. In my view, no pussy can be worth that much, especially when there are millions of comparable pussies just like it worldwide.

Has anybody seen Kay from Happy Days lately?

Been here almost a year and it's killing me. Where in Songtan or Suwon can I find a place to get a massage and BJ or HJ? Can someone PM me some spots. There's two Thai massage places in Songtan that I've been to that seem to just give just straight up massages without extras. I've been there multiple times and haven't gotten any kind of hint. Just really strong massages which is good for people who just want a massage.

I've been approached by SW in Songtan multiple times but they are old, hideous, fat and will attempt to rob you. Guy I knew got burned for $900 by stupidly paying with his card. He still fucked her but she was ugly. Luckily he got his money back 100% by reporting it as fraudulent charges with bank.

Got a massage near Suwon station in a downstairs spot and wasn't offered anything extra. Got a subpar massage from an attractive girl maybe in her 30's. I had a strong feeling I'd get a happy ending but no cigar.

Went to three different massage spots in Myeongdong. Absolute shit. One was a weak massage in a room with other people. The second spot I went to had a man massaging me and I was fucking pissed. Thought the attractive girl who spoke English would be doing the honors but when I got to the room a man was waiting for me. Same thing happened at the third spot except I got led to a room full of other people and a man massaging me. Do not get massages in Myeongdong.

Is there something I should say at a massage place to see if they offer anything special on a hidden menu? I'm afraid to just ask them flat out if they give happy endings unless that's okay. I can't find the "double barber poles" anywhere really either.

I don't even want to get started on how overpriced the backpage working girls are. If someone knows of the secret "officetels" that would be great. I don't want to pay more than 200.

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PM me your Kakao and I'll help you out // fellow gypo.

[QUOTE=SesameOil;1925554]Hello!

As you can see, I'm new to these boards.

Quick intro: I'm traveling to Seoul in November. I both look and speak like a native Korean. I'm also new to the hobby so I've been reading through this thread gathering what information I could to help make this trip enjoyable and memorable. To that end, I'm hoping I can be of some help to any fellow hobbyists that might be in Seoul around the same time. Hopefully, I can open some doors you might not have been able to access before.

After reading some posts here hinting at them, I've discovered several of those Korean bbs boards where services are posted and updated daily with SP availability. They are written completely in Korean and the hobby industry in general uses abbreviations and other jargon so heavily it could be difficult to decipher even if one reads Korean well. These sites host listings for a range of services including officetels, spas, anmas, room salons, kiss rooms, etc. However, for the rest of my post I will focus on officetels. Reservations are virtually always made over the phone so one must speak to the 'shil-jang' or guy in charge who will let you know whether a particular girl and time is available and when the reservation is made he will provide the location and directions. This, as well as the face to face meet with the 'shil-jang' before he tells you which room the girl is in, are likely the primary hurdles for foreigners and that's where I'd like to help!.[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================

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[QUOTE=Facebook2;1928684]If someone knows of the secret "officetels" that would be great. I don't want to pay more than 200.[/QUOTE]Are you conversational in Korean? Setting up an officetel girl requires a reservation over the phone. Suwon is showing about a dozen officetels. As for pricing, most places will be 130,000 + at for 1 hour & 1 shot. Some places offer 90 minutes which start at 200,000 + at and 2 shots.

Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.

You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.

You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.[/QUOTE]Went to Fish Massage today which was a nightmare to find. At the entrance there was a sliding glass door and when it opened I was stopped by a bouncer. About 25 feet from the glass door there was a reception desk with two women behind it. One of the women in perfect English said I could not come in, that they did not accept foreigners, only Asians! I offered them 500,000 Won and they just said "sorry charlie". So I'm curious as to how they respond when an Asian from China or Japan is treated. Being an American you would think they would have a little more respect for us but who knows. Today I was in the "art district" of Saamziegl and found a massage shop that quoted me 80,000 Won but I wasn't sure if it included a happy ending and passed because there where only two MILF's working. If the Koreans are so "foreigner adverse" then it might be very difficult to have a good experience unless you spoke fluent Korean.

There are not many HJ or BJ shops in Suwon. There are a couple in ingye-dong but are not very good. The best ones are in Yongtong. The best one I know is Chanel Massage. It is located behind the Home Plus. You can't miss it. There are many massage shops in the same area. Most of them give the same services. My top 3 are Chanel, SSun and Chunsa. All are 100,000 for 90 minutes. SSun does have a very cute Vietnamese girl working there.

Ace Anma now is expensive, girls too much old, can't choose and just one girl; also it seems that they are doing us a favor by letting enter; I'm new here, I'm not an English speaking country and my English skill are not good, I'm better with Korean haha, but I can try to tell some experience:

Premium aromatherapy Thai, name jenny (backpage). A real scam, all fake! I asked about a course, professional massage and sex for 1.5 hours in my hotel room. The girl was not beautiful, belly fat and not a Thai girl! She didn't speak any English at all, she is Korean and of course speak perfect Korean. I don't know why, but I'm stupid, and I wasn't able to tell her go away. She didn't know about massage, no shower service, no 69, no kiss. After 30 Minutes of bad sex, she dressed quickly and left. Also she went two times to the bathroom to use the phone, I didn't smell good, so I let him go.

Jessie (backpage) 23, hey Jessie. Etc, she says is from Pusan. Again fake, fake pic, agency, different girl, not beautiful, no kiss, no conversation, robot. I paid for a rag doll? And she asked me about tip, after 25 minutes, crazy.

Ji-su (backpage and massage republic). OK, not everything was going to be so bad; she is the girl in the photos, young, gorgeous, and with an amazing body, much better than any girl I can see on the street in Korea; She doesn't care to fuck in any position, and it does really well, also good BBJ. But service was not like she promise. No kiss, no shower service, 69 (I didn't ask about, so I don't know), don't touch my face, don't touch my hair. Too "don't do this". As a good thing, she is talkative, friendly, and stayed with me the whole time I paid.

Good luck, guys!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure ACE was the first place I ever went to in Korea for fun with an agashi, about 8 years ago. I too paid the foreigner tax, and I'm a gyopo. (My Korean sucked then, and it still sucks now, unfortunately.).

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, I think there were reports of US soldiers assaulting SK girls. I'm not surprised at some of the Koreans' attitude towards foreigners. (Sorry for being off topic here.).

[QUOTE=ChickenDinner;1929208]There are not many HJ or BJ shops in Suwon. There are a couple in ingye-dong but are not very good. The best ones are in Yongtong. The best one I know is Chanel Massage. It is located behind the Home Plus. You can't miss it. There are many massage shops in the same area. Most of them give the same services. My top 3 are Chanel, SSun and Chunsa. All are 100,000 for 90 minutes. SSun does have a very cute Vietnamese girl working there.[/QUOTE]Can you give a bit more detail? Do these places offer a full massage followed by a HJ? BJ? If the latter, is it a standard service?

[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1929550]Can you give a bit more detail? Do these places offer a full massage followed by a HJ? BJ? If the latter, is it a standard service?[/QUOTE]Standard HJ service after the massage. Generally the massages have been pretty good. Chanel has the highest ceiling but lowest floor for girls. I've had some of my best times there but also some of the worst. Chun ji massage is the most consistent. Girls give good massages with a decent HJ but nothing earth shattering. I've only been to SSun one time. Got a massage from a cute Vietnamese girl in her late 20's. Very cute, good massage and very good HJ.

And what do you mean "don't care to fuck in any position"? So what she do just stand still and you fucked her standing up? Did you have to wear a condom? Did you cum in her mouth? If no shower then what you fucked her without making sure she was clean?

And found an ad but is she the one with red hair holding a piece of paper with her name? Or do you have a link to her ad?

[QUOTE=TitoSeoul;1929440]Ace Anma now is expensive, girls too much old, can't choose and just one girl; also it seems that they are doing us a favor by letting enter; I'm new here, I'm not an English speaking country and my English skill are not good, I'm better with Korean haha, but I can try to tell some experience:

Premium aromatherapy Thai, name jenny (backpage). A real scam, all fake! I asked about a course, professional massage and sex for 1.5 hours in my hotel room. The girl was not beautiful, belly fat and not a Thai girl! She didn't speak any English at all, she is Korean and of course speak perfect Korean. I don't know why, but I'm stupid, and I wasn't able to tell her go away. She didn't know about massage, no shower service, no 69, no kiss. After 30 Minutes of bad sex, she dressed quickly and left. Also she went two times to the bathroom to use the phone, I didn't smell good, so I let him go.

Jessie (backpage) 23, hey Jessie. Etc, she says is from Pusan. Again fake, fake pic, agency, different girl, not beautiful, no kiss, no conversation, robot. I paid for a rag doll? And she asked me about tip, after 25 minutes, crazy.

Ji-su (backpage and massage republic). OK, not everything was going to be so bad; she is the girl in the photos, young, gorgeous, and with an amazing body, much better than any girl I can see on the street in Korea; She doesn't care to fuck in any position, and it does really well, also good BBJ. But service was not like she promise. No kiss, no shower service, 69 (I didn't ask about, so I don't know), don't touch my face, don't touch my hair. Too "don't do this". As a good thing, she is talkative, friendly, and stayed with me the whole time I paid.

Good luck, guys![/QUOTE]

I paid 240.000 krw for 1 hour, and she was with me the whole hour! After sex, she took a shower alone and we were talking (in Korean, but she can speak English) and watching TV; she insisted she had showered at home, and the truth is that his appearance was very clean. Yes, she is the one with read hair holding a piece of paper, although it now has blonde hair, I'm sure it is physically the same girl. Also the painting her toenails and clothes were the same as in the photos; her breasts are natural, big and really nice and body has 0% fat, but it's not a girl stick, for my perfect! Also she looks no more than 23-24, I think. Blowjob was very good, with strong suction and without condom. My mean is, I tried different positions, including some with deep penetration, and she didn't say no. I did't cum in her mouth. When I met her, she didn't offer CIM. Now I can see is a extra. For me she is a crazy beautiful girl, but I would not repeat, because she told me several times " don't touch my face! Don't touch my hair!" when I tried to suck her tits " nonono tickles me. Then I seemed comical, but now I think about and I feel stupid. I hope have helped you, and if you meet her, now you know that you could find. Although we know that each person's behavior is always different! Sorry if you don't understand something, but it is still hard for me to speak and write in English.

[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1929941]And what do you mean "don't care to fuck in any position"? So what she do just stand still and you fucked her standing up? Did you have to wear a condom? Did you cum in her mouth? If no shower then what you fucked her without making sure she was clean?

And found an ad but is she the one with red hair holding a piece of paper with her name? Or do you have a link to her ad?[/QUOTE]

There is now a police station directly outside Suwon RLD, at the other end of A-row away from the station.

I've seen police harassing Korean males whenever they venture onto that street on several occasions (all 1-3 am), so if you look Korean be careful.

AFAIK, and from what I've seen they don't bother foreigners. Not that any of that matters since suwon RLD offer very slim pickings anyway if you don't look Korean.

And massage republic seems to have been invaded by an eastern european agency/pimp lol