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What the hell, $50,000 seems downright cheap.

I just did a little figuring, and I come up with about 500 sessions that I have done around the world. Most expensive session: $800 for one pop; cheapest: $20 for three pops. I think that the whole thing has cost me close to $50,000, because you have to figure in transportation, entrance to the FKKs or boites or whereever, and fees for hotels and food.

But now take the average failed marriage and do the math. In the first couple of weeks you go at it like rabbits, maybe 10 times a week. Then you slow down a bit. So after 6 month you get married, and perhaps by then you had had sex 60 to 100 times. Then, after the marriage, a big drop. Maybe you have kids, and another drop in freqeuncy. By year 7 you are down to 10 to 15 times per year, and you say f*** this, I'm outta here. Divorce. Divorce lawyers. Shit, no pre-nup. Half of the house goes to her, as does one of the cars, and half of the bank account. (Luckily you hid the little stocking stuffer in the Caymans from everybody, including her...). Oh, so now we are talking about $500,000 in damages. You coulda had 5,000 sessions for that kind of money. And then you add alimony. The gift that keeps on giving...

Now does mongering look like a good deal? Or what?
;-)
euro (not really frustrated, not really forced to drive an old beat-up piece of crap, still living in a nice house, but a lot wiser at great expense)

700 sessions averaging about 70EUR a pop is quite a good value, a good brothel where I currently live averages 200EUR plus "extras". My first visit to an FKK, I was trying to not laugh at how cheap it was compared to a lot of other places that offer high quality women. I used to think a lot of these women must have been really desperate for money to be doing this for so little. An FKK quality woman in the US can earn as much as an Anesthesiologist, 250,000 to 300,000 US a year.

CBGB;

High class hookers rarely have more than 2-4 dates a month. Other than possibly in NYC, London, Tokyo, Moscow there really isn't a huge market for girls who charge over $500 for their services. A lot of these girls don't really earn that much either. Porn stars who hook, or strippers who offer full service for an extra $200 are the sort that might actually earn over $100,000, but otherwsie it isn't realistic that girls are earning that sort of coin.

I know some FKK girls who have worked at some super expensive clubs in Germany and Switzerland. In Germany, the luxury clubs are dead, with customers only coming during trade fair times, so they are going home empty many nights.

Zurich is another story. Here there are some top FKK girls (But they have to be tattoo and piercing free, and be German, not eastern European) who are pulling down 400 Swiss Franks an hour, and managing 4 sessions a day. But those places are rare, and there are only a limited number of customers.

If girls want to earn a regular living, then they have to offer their services in a reasonable price category.

I mean there is one "supermodel" who supposedly offers her services for $50,000 a night, but I have yet to hear of anyone who has used those services.

Theoretically I am offering to be on the receiving end of anal from a huge Black guy for $10 million, but with no one offering that to me, it is not a real income.

Japan’s “car has 130,000 miles on it, looks like sheiss warmed over, bucks, coughs, chokes, stalls, and farts carbon monoxide!”

When on the girls I choose begin to resemble that picture, I’ll know it’s time to stop and save for the ferrari.

I actually met an FKK girl at Babylon that worked in Las Vegas, she made a lot of money while there but she eventually got thrown out of the US for overstaying the 90 day limit.

As far as cars, I live near a Ferrari dealership, I saw a fleet of brand new F430s delivered.

Does anyone know what became of the ladies who worked at the now closed Relax in Limburg? To me it was among the best small clubs I had ever visited. I would like to know what became of Laura from Litho, Or Mandy, or any of them. I'm planning a trip there this fall and would like to catch up with one or two of them. Also the lovely little barmaid Tanya. So cute. I just missed her when she worked the other side of the bar. The club itself was wonderful too. Clean and modern and management always made sure there was something to eat and drink. I surely miss it. Especially Sunday afternoons in the summertime out on the grass. Just terrific.

Pervus,

Your barmaid and her bf were tending the counters at Goldentime doing a fantastic job as always late last year but were already gone when I went back to pay them a visit in April. Dunno where they went to from there but if anybody else knows, I'd like to know also. They're good people.

I was communicating with Laura via email for awhile and hooked up with her at Oase several times after Relax closed, but have not talked with her in a long time. I got the impression that she was busy doing alot of other things and had just become a part timer anyways, but would make time for long-time "friends." Last I checked, she didn't live near Frankfurt.

FL

Berlin is getting a new FKK club called Artemis, it is supposed to become the biggest FKK in Germany, and is particularly going to be suited to handling the large numbers of tourists expected to enter Germany for the World Cup in 2006. I guess we will finally have a reason for traveling outside of NRW and Hessen for pussy in Germany.

Fkk lover,

Tks for the update. I am just starting to formulate plans for a trip in early or mid October, (as soon as the airfairs switch to the off season rates) LOL I thought it would be fun to look up some of my former playmates over there.

Again, thanks.

Artemis is opening in Mid September according to an ad in the Bild.

Goldentime is owned by the Relax people, but in the meantime few of the girls have made the trek up there.

Regarding Barmais Tanya, she is no longer working at Golden time, she is working 3-4 days a week behind the counter at Wildenrath. Some people really like her, but I don't think she is as friendly as others think.

I will be in Frankfurt for one week untill Aug 22. Also I do not know German and fear that I may get lost. I would love to accompany anyone who is interested to go with me all the FKK clubs one by one. Please PM me ASAP so we can setup a plan.

For others wait for a giant report!

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Peter]
I mean there is one "supermodel" who supposedly offers her services for $50,000 a night, but I have yet to hear of anyone who has used those services.[/QUOTE]

Peter, who is she??

Don't know. I once landed on the page where she was advertised, there were pictures where they showed her sillhouette in real pro pictures. I searched the internet but could not find any similar pics or any reports about who she might be. But it is just like all the high price sites out there like EliAgency (do they still exist?). You can look all you want and you can't find anyone who ever uses these services.

I guess no one is stupid enogh to actually admit they overpaid that much.

Khare,

I would not worry too much about not knowing German. I would however suggest you get a book with a few common phrases in it. I found that on my trip there, people were much more willing to speak to you in English if they could see you were trying to speak to them in German. I will say that 99% of the people that I interacted with in the larger cities spoke some English. I did meet several ladies that did not speak English, but for what we were doing, neither one of us needed to speak the other language.

In one Partytreff club I visited, the bartender did not speak English, but asked around until he found a woman who did. She turned out to be alot of fun and ended up hanging out with me most of the evening, translating for me, introducing me and hooking me up with quite a few ladies but only after she tested me out herself.

Don't be scared, just make an effort and don't be embarrassed to admit you can't speak the language.

There has been discussion of this under the partytreff thread - but I'm continuing it here as it is a more appropriate thread

To add to the chorus of car lovers for FKKing. I would love to go by train and taxi (and have done in the past) but find that it is a lot cheaper to hire. If I were to go to Oase and World from Frankfurt on the same day by train and bus I could easily spend over 50 euros, to say nothing of the wasted time and loss of flexibility. If I did the bus journeys by taxi then the cost could be over 120 euros. There is no way a car will cost even the lower figure - even if you factor in the risk of having to pay an excess because of damage occasionally.

If in doubt on the autobahn - just stay in the slow lane. And keep an eye on your rearview for someone coming up fast. German drivers may not be the best but they are generally not aggressive and seem to go by certain unwritten rules (i.e custom)- after a short time you see the unwritten rules they are driving by.

As for which company is best - it's worth checking Budget, Sixt, Hertz and Europcar websites and getting quotes. Sometimes one is cheap, another day a different one is cheap