Stupid Shit in the Philippines

I do remember her. Hard not to. Sure she got snapped up. Was constantly flirted with all night long.

I go vodka soda to keep this carbs and calories low, then when a friendly buzz is achieved, I go to San Mig Zero so as to not compromise the boner and keep the sex game solid.

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Anybody knows what happened to the cute long haired blonde waitress (I think named Jane) from Kokomos? I didn't see her there anymore, I was hitting on her, but no results, probably somebody married her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jarango;3008223]Waitresses would be in big demand (an honest wman ha ha) and the tips mount up.[/QUOTE]Years (probably decades) ago, I sat at the old pool bar at ABC with a buddy and one of the liquor importers / suppliers happened to sit at the next table. A very well put together lady who would have been a stunner 20 years ago. We all got talking and the subject of the very pretty waitresses came up. She commented that the job was one of the most competitive in Angeles as it had a 100% marriage and visa rate, typically with one of the wealthier customers that stay repeatedly at ABC.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;3008223] I find the service in Phillies bad. They seem to ignore the customer. [/QUOTE]Did they ignore you after you pressed the Bell to call the waitress over to you?

Yes service is bad, but after experiencing the rest of the PH, when returning to AC it feels like 5 star service.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;3006126]Oh yeah and Biden was much much better. He printed 8 trillion dollars out of thin air and let in 12 to 15 million illegal's in with no job skills. Glad my days here are numbered and I can.

Leave this shithole.[/QUOTE]Thanks for making my point!

[QUOTE=Jarango;3008223]Waitresses would be in big demand (an honest wman ha ha) and the tips mount up. I find the service in Phillies bad. They seem to ignore the customer. [/QUOTE]Mate, the customer service world-wide is now bad.

The American service workers rely on tips due to poor rates of pay and I used to be happy to tip them knowing that was basically their income (believe me, I worked in bars as a traveler in NYC and FL without a Greencard and it was tips only back in the day, but our service was fantastic). The bar owners only wanted to distance themselves from wage expenses and have the customer pay for it.

Here in Australia, and many other countries, I've noticed the same decline in service and it's because the workers aren't getting rewarded a decent wage to provide it these days.

(Try getting the economics of things into a Pina who thinks we're all millionaires despite the inflated costs in the west).

I had a bit of a fuckfest in Russia quite a few years ago, and ended up in a social occasion with a number of stunning hookers who made some interesting remarks on the negatives of capitalism, which were very valid at the time, and are probably now today.

I've been in retail and customer service since I started as an apprentice tradesman when I was sixteen.

For the past seven years we've operated a lingerie and sex toy business competing against all the major brands. It's our customer service that gets business and return business.

It's not just a Phils thing.

If you're getting shit service, it's because the management hasn't properly trained their staff, or the staff aren't committed because they're not being paid a decent wage. Or they're working for an arsehole / asshole.

It happens the world over _ Just my experience _ Phil.

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It's not just a Phils thing.

If you're getting shit service, it's because the management hasn't properly trained their staff, or the staff aren't committed because they're not being paid a decent wage. Or they're working for an arsehole / asshole.

It happens the world over _ Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that the Philippines labour laws mean that service staff can expect to be fired every 6 months to avoid accruing entitlements of long term employees.

Go to somewhere where there are six staff standing around while one person operates the checkout: they are all on 6 months contracts. Starbucks etc where you can actually get served: no short term contracts.

Don't even get me started that the girls probably had to have a 4 year degree to get that contract.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3008394]The American service workers rely on tips due to poor rates of pay and I used to be happy to tip them knowing that was basically their income[/QUOTE]Would you do the same for workers in a supermarket?

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3008394]Here in Australia, and many other countries, I've noticed the same decline in service and it's because the workers aren't getting rewarded a decent wage to provide it these days.
If you're getting shit service, it's because the management hasn't properly trained their staff, or the staff aren't committed because they're not being paid a decent wage. [/QUOTE]This makes no sense at all. Someone goes begging for someone to hire them, then after getting hired say well because I am not getting paid x then I am going to do a shitty job? So why even apply for the job in the first place already knowing the pay rate? People usually pay more due to a good job being done than give raises to people doing a shitty job. The people doing the shitty job are usually out of the door. What business owner is going to say well since you are doing such a shitty job then you deserve a raise? None.

You are getting shit service because most people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. There are 2 stories that I always tell in reference to service in the Philippines. One I was in first class on an international flight on Philippine Air. I ordered Grand Marnier and pineapple juice. I took a sip and saw it was only pineapple juice. I told the flight attendant that I had ordered Grand Marnier and pineapple juice. She looked right in my eyes and said sorry sir we do not have pineapple juice, while I am holding a glass full of it in my hand. I thought I was being pranked.

Second was at a resort in Cebu in the pool with my girlfriend. Lady came around taking orders for dinner. I looked at the menu and didn't really see anything I wanted. So I said just give me a grilled cheese. The girl said sorry sir, we do not have grilled cheese, only grilled ham and cheese. It did not add up to her that the ham could just be left off the sandwich.

I have tons more similar stories. This is dumb assery, not people doing a bad job because of inadequate training or low pay. Paying more would not make those people any smarter, thereby leading to better service. It is like thinking an ox with two legs would plow the field better if they just gave it more food.

I was always taught that people pay for skills. So I concentrated on making myself marketable so I could earn more money. The problem today is that people are told that since they are breathing then they automatically deserve more. It does not work like that. If everybody had more money then nobody would have more money. The natural selection is that those that are able to obtain certain skills will make more.

The USSR proved it to be bullshit for dumbasses to be earning the same as heart surgeons. Can't get mad at the person studying hard and working his ass off to get where he got, while you chose a route of sitting on your ass waiting to be handed something.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3008433]Don't forget that the Philippines labour laws mean that service staff can expect to be fired every 6 months to avoid accruing entitlements of long term employees.

Go to somewhere where there are six staff standing around while one person operates the checkout: they are all on 6 months contracts. Starbucks etc where you can actually get served: no short term contracts.

Don't even get me started that the girls probably had to have a 4 year degree to get that contract.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I'd forgotten much of that. They really screw workers into the ground ever since Poeple Power.

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Second was at a resort in Cebu in the pool with my girlfriend. Lady came around taking orders for dinner. I looked at the menu and didn't really see anything I wanted. So I said just give me a grilled cheese. The girl said sorry sir, we do not have grilled cheese, only grilled ham and cheese. It did not add up to her that the ham could just be left off the sandwich.

.[/QUOTE]It happened to me numerous times, and I read or I had a report long time ago about the implications of ordering a hamburger at McDonalds and requesting no onion on it, it turned into a real clusterfuck, involving managers, and staff.

While in PH don't deviate from the standard, just do it yourself afterwards.

In the US is the reverse of everything discussed here, the poor service is due to the waiters wage increase. Years ago when they were getting paid $5/ HR or $2/ HR in the countryside, everybody were doing their best to earn your 10-15% tip, our days they all start at $15/ HR and the 20% tip is automatically added to your bill, therefore no incentive to be extra nice to you. In good locations, they make more money than skilled trades like electricians or carpenters do. I don't think that raising the wages of servers will solve the problem, the lure of a good tip afterwards does the trick, just the way it works with the hookers. Our european friends kind of fucked up the system by always leaving almost nothing for a tip, and because we all look the same, the filipina waitresses cannot differentiate who's a good tipper and who's not.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3008649]In the US is the reverse of everything discussed here, the poor service is due to the waiters wage increase. Years ago when they were getting paid $5/ HR or $2/ HR in the countryside, everybody were doing their best to earn your 10-15% tip, our days they all start at $15/ HR and the 20% tip is automatically added to your bill, therefore no incentive to be extra nice to you. In good locations, they make more money than skilled trades like electricians or carpenters do. I don't think that raising the wages of servers will solve the problem, the lure of a good tip afterwards does the trick, just the way it works with the hookers. Our european friends kind of fucked up the system by always leaving almost nothing for a tip, and because we all look the same, the filipina waitresses cannot differentiate who's a good tipper and who's not.[/QUOTE]In the US its not a tip its expected. Nothing special about the service there just making the customer the payroll clerk instead of the business. In China you get great service and they are offended if you leave a tip.

[QUOTE=GDreams;3008728]In the US its not a tip its expected. Nothing special about the service there just making the customer the payroll clerk instead of the business. In China you get great service and they are offended if you leave a tip.[/QUOTE]Read again, I said it used to be.

I was refused service in China because I only wanted a beer and no food or other times for no apparent reason, so I don't know what are you taking about when you say great service, overall even with the abrupt decline in the quality I find the service in US superior to many other civilized countries.

Also I don't know where this idea that the business shifts the burden of payroll to the customer originates, because I see it perpetuated on the internet for many years, but I don't think is true because being a waiter in my opinion is an occupation that doesn't require almost no qualifications therefore used to be paid just like any other unqualified job: minimum wage. There are exceptions, fancy places, very few, where serving food is an art, and knowledge about when, and how to serve it is needed, but I'm pretty sure the server's wages are different there, and the prices too.

The US tip culture is inherited from a time long gone now, and doesn't have nothing to do with the payroll, digging trenches in the heat is 100 times harder, also an unqualified job, and was paid minimum wage also, but as you guessed: no tip.

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The US tip culture is inherited from a time long gone now, and doesn't have nothing to do with the payroll, digging trenches in the heat is 100 times harder, also an unqualified job, and was paid minimum wage also, but as you guessed: no tip.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk[/URL]

You were ok in this movie but in no others IMHO.

Category 1.) She comes and sees you four or more times a week outside of the bar for free and sometimes stays longtime. (Sort of happened to me one time in Thailand a Soi 6 girl wanted to do long time she staid the night I paid her then the next day she said it was her day off and she would just stay another night with me. Offered her money the second day but she refused it. Even paid once when we went out to eat).

Category 2.) She sees you four or more times a week outside of the bar for half the bar fine price and sometimes stays long time. (very common for me I have a few I see outside of the bar for half the bar fine price on a regular almost daily bases).

Category 3.) She contacts you four or more times a week and wants you to come into her bar and bar fine her but never stays long time. (Has happen to me occasionally but I usually get promoted by her very quickly to category two).

Category 4.) She bar fines with you once maybe a second time, maybe not, but then turns her nose up at you wants nothing to do with you and won't say why she doesn't like you (Has happened to me before but it is rare).

Category 5.) She wants you to come into the bar and table her and buy her drinks, she laughs at your jokes is affectionate to you in the bar wants you to come in often to table her and buy her drinks but won't bar fine with you always has an excuse why she can't. (Has never really happened to me as I know most of the managers and just tell them to ask the girl if she will do short time before I buy her even one drink).

Category 6.) She allows you to table her and buy her a drink once but won't bar fine, maybe she allows you to buy her a drink a second time but is cold and disinterested in you and won't say why she won't bar fine with you and turns her nose up at you any time you enter after that. (Has never happened to me as I always follow the mode of operation stated in category five).

Category 7.) She won't even allow you to table her and buy her a drink runs from you like you are the Ebola virous and won't even talk to you. (Has only happened to me in the Korean bars with the attractive girls who only go with Koreans, they won't sit with you interact with you and avoid you).