Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[QUOTE=Kogaratsu]Hi all,

I Will be in few days in Osaka.

I would like to meet some mature japanese women.

I was in deriheru in Kyoto and Kobe but before leaving Japan, I would like to try an old one.

Do you have some address or contact to suggest me?

I am not skilled in japanese.

Thanks to you.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for a mature Japanese lady in Osaka, you may try Freajia (Hotel health) :

[url]http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/umd/index.html[/url]

It's in Umeda (near the JR Osaka-eki)

There is a lot of reports in this board so you better read them before going. I should warn you, the girls are not very pretty but it's cheap.

Another option is Ikenai Okusan :
[url]http://ikenai.jp/main.html[/url]

A report of Grossman : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=891750&postcount=745[/url]

It's a DH and HH place (Umeda/Juso). The girls are younger and cuter than in Freajia so it's more expensive and you probably need a better level in Japanese (just very basic Japanese is enought for Freajia, I think).

You said that you already try DH in Kyoto and Kobe so you should be able to get what you want at least in Freajia.

It would also be nice if you can write, even a little, about yours experiences in Kyoto, Kobe and hopefully Osaka. Hearing about the adventures of others mongerers is always a pleasure !

Take care.

[QUOTE=Kogaratsu]Hi all,

I Will be in few days in Osaka.

I would like to meet some mature japanese women.

I was in deriheru in Kyoto and Kobe but before leaving Japan, I would like to try an old one.

Do you have some address or contact to suggest me?

I am not skilled in japanese.

Thanks to you.[/QUOTE]

Search this forum for Freajia. That should suit your needs perfectly.

[QUOTE=Izanagi]Sorry, Sound7, DH alone may look a bit hard to understand.


There is also Fashion Health (Fasshon Herusu,?) where you do the action in the place itself...

Please note that in theory, the services are just BJ, DATY, 69. Everything but FS (strictly forbidden by Japanese law) and anal (don't know of any place that offer anal in Japan.).

Well, in fact, FS depends of the girl: she may or may not let you do it. You can always ask nicely but you have to understand that it's not what you pay for.[/QUOTE]

There are places that specialize in anal, but best to call before going. Girls tend to be less attractive, older (and bigger), and are sometimes less worried about foreigners.

There are also Pink Salons, which are basically the same as Fashion Health but slightly cheaper and smaller.

[QUOTE=Lion]There are places that specialize in anal, but best to call before going. Girls tend to be less attractive, older (and bigger), and are sometimes less worried about foreigners.

There are also Pink Salons, which are basically the same as Fashion Health but slightly cheaper and smaller.[/QUOTE]Red Room in Kobe (Sannomiya) seems to offer anal if the AF really means this. Never tried, don't really want to, so I don't have a clue about what you got and if it's Gaijin-friendly.

[url]http://www.redroom-kobe.com/[/url]

Yes, as far as I understand it, Pink salons are simply BJ places with less possibilities/space than a Fashion Health.

By the way, does someone know a place like JanJan in the Kansai area ?

I'm not the biggest fan of the shop (arrgg, I really miss Supergirls...) but it's the cheapest place I know in all Japan.

[QUOTE=Izanagi]

Another option is Ikenai Okusan :
[url]http://ikenai.jp/main.html[/url]

A report of Grossman : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=891750&postcount=745[/url]

It's a DH and HH place (Umeda/Juso). The girls are younger and cuter than in Freajia so it's more expensive and you probably need a better level in Japanese (just very basic Japanese is enought for Freajia, I think).
[/QUOTE]

Ikenai Okusan specializes in "house wives" they are generally younger and prettier than Freajia, but they are not young. Also I I'm almost positive that they require a high level of Japanese. Go check for yourself though.

A couple of weeks ago I had a terrible experience at a place that appeared quite intriguing on Sennichimae street between Namba and Nippombashi.

I had walked by the place many times and had thought about investigating almost every time I walked by with some extra time on my hands and money in my pocket.

The place is advertised as a Health GoGo. Naively, I thought it might be something similar to the New Hot Point in Tokyo. I pictured some women stripping on a stage while another women came around to each patron and "gave them some form of satisfaction" If any of you have read about New Hot Point in Tokyo you will understand what I had in mind.

Well, it wasn't what I had in mind and was actually the most depressing Pay for Play experiences I've ever had. The surly doorman, who wasn't overly pleased to see a foreigner should have been my first sign to bail out. But I persevered, paid the 5000 yen and went inside. I was shown to a small booth in a really dark and depressing room. There was no show, or stage for that matter. After a couple of minutes one of the staff came and saw me. I inquired about the GoGo show and was told there was no suck thing. Ok, this was starting to get shitty. Finally after talking at her (couldn't actually see her though I am sure she was unattractive)for some time I realized that I would have to pay 200yen more simply to get a handjob from this woman that I wasn't attracted to at all. I paid, like a fool, got my handjob and left.

The moral of the story is talk to the doorman or follow your gut instinct when checking out new places because there are a lot of shit places out there with very little concern for customer satisfaction.

Also, I would love to check out a Pink Salon in Kyobashi or Juso. Has anybody had any experiences there in those types of establishments?

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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Search this forum for Freajia. That should suit your needs perfectly.[/QUOTE]I recently tried Freajia. Found the place easily enough, thanks to the excellent directions elsewhere in this forum. Alas my Japanese language skills are almost totally lacking. And that is not enough to be serviced there. The guy repeatedly gestured that I would not be helped and very politely showed me to the door. Of course I stayed polite as well.

Frustrating that there still is no place in Osaka for gaijin that do not speak Japanese. Is Tokyo so much more open, or can't I just not find a place? (like JanJan for example?)

[QUOTE=Josh63]
Frustrating that there still is no place in Osaka for gaijin that do not speak Japanese. Is Tokyo so much more open, or can't I just not find a place? (like JanJan for example?)[/QUOTE]

That's strange. There have been several on this board who claimed not to speak Japanese who have been serviced at Freajia. Perhaps there was something going on that night, like all of the girls were fully booked. Since there was a linguistic impasse, we will never know.

Of course, if one thinks of it logically, it makes perfect sense that Japanese establishments would not want customers who don't speak Japanese. They exist in a gray world between legality and illegality, and as such, clear communication is key.

And it is Japan. The domestic market is large enough to accommodate thousands of entrants. Foreigners are high-maintenance and typically want to pay less than their Japanese counterparts. Who would want to serve that market?

Try Craigslist. It's quite sparse, but every so often you get English speaking women who are freelancing.

[QUOTE=Josh63]
Frustrating that there still is no place in Osaka for gaijin that do not speak Japanese. Is Tokyo so much more open, or can't I just not find a place? (like JanJan for example?)[/QUOTE]

From Osaka, there are three red light districts that you can get to by train that have some hot girls some of whom will service gaijin. (Tobita-shinchi, Mastujima-shinchi and kannami-shinchi to name the largest.) I'm not aware of any BJ bars (pink salons) that service gaijin in the area, but it's Kansai, so try out some of the local red light districts before they get cleaned up.

Here's a video of Tobita, the most famous, on a typical night:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKQOamvpyYQ&feature=related[/url]

[QUOTE=Josh63]I recently tried Freajia. Found the place easily enough, thanks to the excellent directions elsewhere in this forum. Alas my Japanese language skills are almost totally lacking. And that is not enough to be serviced there. The guy repeatedly gestured that I would not be helped and very politely showed me to the door. Of course I stayed polite as well.

Frustrating that there still is no place in Osaka for gaijin that do not speak Japanese. Is Tokyo so much more open, or can't I just not find a place? (like JanJan for example?)[/QUOTE]

I concur with Xslikx on Tobita Shinchi. I am a white guy and have had FS from 4 hot young Japanese there in the past year or so, with nothing said, just a smile. Get off at Dobutsuen-mae station, use Exit 2, hang a right through the shabby covered strip mall as you come up the steps, then always stay to your left looking to your left until you come to a big intersection where you will see a big tall building to your left. Turn left there and just walk all over back there. If you can't find it, ask one of the local guys on bikes or whatever, Tobita Shinchi doko desu ka? They don't like gaijin around there, but the Japanese guys are all perverts just like us and it's a bond that defies racial prejudice. I've been helped to find places by locals before, like Tobita in Osaka and Kabukicho in Tokyo. Totally opposite places..haha.

Shops who invite you 'douzo' in will have a little sheet of paper in the room with the pricing on it. Service is 50/50 and I think is somewhat dependent on the time that you are booking. If you have a good feel about the girl, book a 30 minute or longer session instead of the 20 min salarymans special. I think you get better service that way. On twenty minute sessions that I booked, they would lay there like they are dead, but when I booked 30 minute sessions the girls would go apeshit on total GFE all the way. Probably due to the girl and just coincidental on the length of the session, but there must be some effect. I even found a swallower there. She rode me in a frenzy until she wore out, flipped to mish or doggy (I forget), and then as time ran out she sucked deepthroat and swallowed..must have a gaijin fetish or something.?

Do walk around a lot and see what's available. If not, you might miss the best streets. If you get a douzo, ackowledge the mama but pay close attention to the girl..is she also waving her hand for you to come in? If not, bow and keep moving. I think mamas will volunteer them for things they don't want. Rumor is that mamas used to be the girls on pillows and pressure the girls to step up to the plate. Yeah mama is old but maybe she used to work it and tells these girl to step up and make her some cash.

Backgrounder: Tobita Shinchi has been around for generations, these girl's great grandmas might have worked there. The girl you are about to fuck might have actually been concieved there by some horny J-monger 20 years ago, for that matter. Hos reproduce and raise more hos, that's my experience anywhere in the world. Some guys in Rio are making P4P hookups with the daughters of girls that they used to fuck 20 years ago. [but Rio mongers are hardcore :)] Needless to say, Tobita is a RLD steeped in history, still having the traditionalism of tatami mats and all that. I praise it after I said in other post that I'd never go there again (kritters), so call me a hypocrite, so be it.

Anyway, just because mama wants your business doesn't mean that the girls do, so look at their body language and eyes and see if they seem to want you too....And do be prepared to be laughed at...some mamas think gaijin are mistaken about getting laid there..but they are wrong. Mind your self. I caught Kansai kritters there last July. But that could happen anywhere you find Japanese girls and their wild jungle bushes.

As for Jan-Jan, I was just there tonight for the umpteenth time. Impressive as usual, even though I got a new face. Apparently there is a rigorous interview process, therefore, I have put in my resume and application at Jan-Jan for the position of human resources manager/interviewer based on my unique qualifications of having provided so many human resources (aka sperm) there. If Jan-Jan was in a third world nation, I'd get an a Nobel Prize for efforts to feed the hungry (my sperm of course.) :) I'm bad. I haven't found that much entertainment anywhere else in the Japan at that price level. If you find an equivalent somewhere, please let us know! but with the exception of that, Tokyo has nothing on Osaka. FS is much easier to get in Osaka. If I was recommending a short Japanese trip to someone, I'd say skip Tokyo, fly to KIX, bang some girls at Tobita, ride the train to Kyoto for real authentic J-tourism, come back to Osaka, bang some more chicks, and go home and tell everyone that you've 'done Japan' and you won't be lying. :) To me, Kyoto is the real Japan. If I don't see people shopping for groceries in kimonos, I conclude that the the area has been corrupted by the evil gaijin. My perception is that Japanese people all over participate in being westernized businesspeople and kawaii cutesy Japanese, but in reality they respect Kyoto and wish they could just be traditional. People in Tokyo, Kobe, and Yoko talk to me about bushido and shinto, and they always refer to the people in Kyoto as epitomizing the Japanese spirit..unfortunately this also mean that mongering in Kyoto SUCKS!!! :(

[QUOTE=Josh63]I recently tried Freajia. Found the place easily enough, thanks to the excellent directions elsewhere in this forum. Alas my Japanese language skills are almost totally lacking. And that is not enough to be serviced there. The guy repeatedly gestured that I would not be helped and very politely showed me to the door. Of course I stayed polite as well.

Frustrating that there still is no place in Osaka for gaijin that do not speak Japanese. Is Tokyo so much more open, or can't I just not find a place? (like JanJan for example?)[/QUOTE]Wow, really? You sure you went into the right door (the one on the left at the end of the corridor, silver door. Goes be-be-be-beep when you open it)? The 2 doors on the opposite side will accept foreigners (I was asked in once) if you speak Japanese but without maybe no luck.

I'm surprised you got turned down at Freajia; I've seen a few foreigners there managers to get serviced by pointing and flashing money around!

I just got back from a very nice, reasonably-priced FS experience in Umeda with a very pretty Chinese provider. Found it on my own, although I did a search of the forum just now and found it that it was identified previously. If anyone is interested to know where it is, send me a PM. They are very gaijin-friendly (or at least they were to me.)

[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I just got back from a very nice, reasonably-priced FS experience in Umeda with a very pretty Chinese provider. Found it on my own, although I did a search of the forum just now and found it that it was identified previously. If anyone is interested to know where it is, send me a PM. They are very gaijin-friendly (or at least they were to me.)[/QUOTE]Kinbana? For a guess? :D

[QUOTE=Naniwan]Kinbana? For a guess? :D[/QUOTE]

No. I don't even know where Kinbana is, unless that was one of the names of Toukaen before it closed.

Visited the Freajia in Umeda so many talked about the other day.

Nihongo is quite OK, so no problem getting in (should challenge myself to other places rather.).

Picked a lady. Not mention name, but listed as age 38, one of their top on list. Pretty face.

However, lets say that that the ladies are chronologically gifted. Saw another gal walking by, glad I did not get that obasan.

Service was. Hmm, no kissing!. CBJ. And very quickly C-honban. Dekaii (nice!) managed 2 shots. Guess I was horny. But felt uninspired for DATY or others. Optied for 75 mins, but her stopwatch was set at 50+10.

Conversation (all japanese) was fun, very nice gal, but I guess I was not there for a language class.

Would be interested in testing other places.