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The problem with RIO club is that it seems none of the girls don't do DFK or uncovered blowjob

[QUOTE=Muddy7;1257577]The problem with RIO club is that it seems none of the girls don't do DFK or uncovered blowjob[/QUOTE]On what basis are you stating that? Your opinion is not based on experience or personal knowledge. you can't say "none" of the girls do. perhaps you can say "some" of the girls don't do it. only if you have dated most of the girls, which you have not done, and have been unsuccessful in getting dfk and uncovered bj, could you be in a position to say that "most" of the girls do not do dfk and uncovered bj WITH YOU. but since you have not dated most of the girls, you could not say that with accuracy. There are reports on the thread which directly contradict your statement. there are also reports that state a particular girl didn't do an uncovered bj. I have gotten uncovered BJ's sometimes and sometimes not. I have always been able to kiss the girl I took out, although I am not into sticking my tongue so far down her throat that it comes out her vagina. I'm a little more gentle than that. So I don't know what level of dfk you are desiring. But it is clear that what you wrote exaggerates the issue.

In the interest of preserving accuracy perhaps it would be better stated that not every girl at Rio provides dfk and uncovered BJ to every customer, it will depend on each girl's personal outlook as well as on the chemistry between her and a particular client, YMMV, and there is no guarantee that every girl will do it with you.

You need to use your mongering skills during conversation and during private dances to detect as best you can which girl is more likely to do those things with you, or find a way to discuss it without killing the mood or good vibe you might have going.

It is not a guaranteed service on a menu like at an FKK. It is individual and depends on chemistry you may be able to develop with a particular girl with your own personal mongering charms. Impeccable grooming and personal hygiene are of course prerequisite to any girl wanting to do these intimate things with you. So don't expect to get very far if you have bad breath, body odor, or look decrepit. Look and be your best, and turn on the charm, and it will go a long way towards getting you where you want, but keep your eyes open and brain working, and watch for signs of a girl's inclinations, and choose well.

LJ

Maanth,

Where is Millenium?

Are girls available for picup?

How much does it cost?

[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1257041]Generally if you paid for dinner in the 90's it was enough for the girl to spend the night.

One of my bud's who came in 1994 said being American was generally enough to do it.

Right up to 2005 you could be top talent out of River Palace for $100-$150.[/QUOTE].

In 1996 the Hryvnia was introduced, and it was 1. 83UAH to the US$.

In April 2005 it was pegged at 5. 05 UAH to the US$. .

I did Prague, Warsaw, Budapest, Sofia, Zagreb, Belgrade in the late 1980s, before the Berlin Wall came down. It was as cheap as Chips, didn't need to pay a Dime in Prague, Warsaw or Budapest. But then again I was in my 20s, I had youth on my side and with a Western Regesiterd car, I was a bit of Novelty then in those places.

But even then I used to see German mongers who were in their 40s being approached only by WGS in Tourist Clubs in Prague, civvy girls were just not interested in them.

Kiev became a viable cheap mongering destination for me in late 2008, 2009 (8+Uah to the US$) , with the depreciation of the UAH and the Cheap flights on Wizzair from London.

Without those 2 Factors, I wouldn't have considered Kiev as a Mongering Place, because it wasn't cost effective for me. And honsetly with what I got In Kiev & Minsk later on, I don't think I missed out on earlier years.

The only time a girl cost me more than US$ 100 in Kiev, was a girl that I exchanged more 40 messages with her, before she agreed to come from Donetsk to see me In Kiev. And she wasn't a Pro.

[QUOTE=Muddy7;1257577]The problem with RIO club is that it seems none of the girls don't do DFK or uncovered blowjob[/QUOTE]This is actually a fair assumption. For the record, the club is mostly 7's and 8's with some rare 9's. I did not take out and have no real knowledge of how the club works with the girls. However, I will assume the girls pay the club one third. I doubt this club would exist from the money it generates strictly within the establishment. In my eyes it is an extension of the prostitute bars found in Moscow. If this was a strip club without any "outside the club action" the talent would have to be all 9's and 10's. If your in Kiev for a short period, its an option but do not place all your focus on the place. I have a few weeks here and prefer to hunt for amateurs with some leg work.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Muddy7;1257577]The problem with RIO club is that it seems none of the girls don't do DFK or uncovered blowjob[/QUOTE]If the girls here blew without a cover, they would all go work for Gia. If they are going to do all the work of dancing on a stage, there has to be some kind of a payback for them. I believe it lies within the fact that they do not have to perform dfk or BBBJ. I am sure exceptions can be found but it will not be this clubs established norm.

Please keep in mind I only made one visit there and probably do not know what I am talking about.

Thank you to all your posts I think I have now an idea about Kiev and what to do there.

My question I a little bit private but hope I will find your understanding.

I'm thinking about action in Kiev but not sure if I can handle it phisically and be ready for multiple runs.

So decided to try for the first time vitamins (how they called here).)

I read LJ comments regarding it and prices in Kiev I believe$17 for Cialis without prescription.

Since I never used this staff before can you guys give me some lectures about reaction to expect and.

Everything else associated with use based on your experiences?

Thank you in advance

[QUOTE=Rediska; 1257733]I'm thinking about action in Kiev but not sure if I can handle it phisically and be ready for multiple runs.

So decided to try for the first time vitamins (how they called here).)

I read LJ comments regarding it and prices in Kiev I believe$17 for Cialis without prescription.

Since I never used this staff before can you guys give me some lectures about reaction to expect and.

Everything else associated with use based on your experiences?

Thank you in advance[/QUOTE]Ok.

I take Cialis, I get 20mg pills, I have a pill cutter(buy from drugstore), I cut it in half, if I want to see a girl at 9pm or later, I take half a pill around 3pm and half a pill around 6pm. It works best for me this way, I would rather not take the whole pill at one time

[QUOTE=Muddy7; 1257804]Ok.

I take Cialis, I get 20mg pills, I have a pill cutter (buy from drugstore) , I cut it in half, if I want to see a girl at 9pm or later, I take half a pill around 3pm and half a pill around 6pm. It works best for me this way, I would rather not take the whole pill at one time[/QUOTE]So you take half of pill about 6 or more hours before and other part about 3 or more hours before? Interesting.

Seems like there was a lot of experiments before to get so precise.)

Why not buy them BEFORE you get there? Various online pharmacies sell them for $1-2 / pill.

How much to take? It depends on whether you are taking them as a necessity or as insurance. Age, alcohol, sleep, and the girl's hotness are all factors. For me a quarter is more than enough for up to 3 days. I once made the mistake of taking a full Viagra and I almost killed the girl, and myself. Only you know yourself. Do some dry tests.

[QUOTE=Muddy7; 1257804]Ok.

I take Cialis, I get 20mg pills, I have a pill cutter (buy from drugstore) , I cut it in half, if I want to see a girl at 9pm or later, I take half a pill around 3pm and half a pill around 6pm. It works best for me this way, I would rather not take the whole pill at one time[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rediska; 1257733]Thank you to all your posts I think I have now an idea about Kiev and what to do there.

My question I a little bit private but hope I will find your understanding.

I'm thinking about action in Kiev but not sure if I can handle it phisically and be ready for multiple runs.

So decided to try for the first time vitamins (how they called here).)

I read LJ comments regarding it and prices in Kiev I believe$17 for Cialis without prescription.

Since I never used this staff before can you guys give me some lectures about reaction to expect and.

Everything else associated with use based on your experiences?

Thank you in advance[/QUOTE]There are two types of Cialis available.

Cialis for daily use 2. 5mg and 5. 0 mg. You should start with 2. 5 mg. It should be taken every day once at about the same time.

Cialis 36 hours (Standard Cialis) 5, 10 and 20mg. This is supposed to be taken as needed. Start with a low starting dose of 5mg and only increase if necessary. It has a very long half life and it is not recommended to repeat the table before 24 hours.

If you have a existing heart disease I would strongly recommend to consult your doctor before taking this tablet. It is not recommend combining this table with nitrates (used to treat angina) or alpha blockers (used in prostatic hypertrophy) as it may cause dangerous fall in your blood pressure.

You may experience some drop in blood pressure, headache palpitation and nasal congestion,

Do not take if you have esxisting heart disease, liver or kidney problem, stomach ulcer, vision loss.

[QUOTE=Rediska; 1257812]So you take half of pill about 6 or more hours before and other part about 3 or more hours before? Interesting.

Seems like there was a lot of experiments before to get so precise.) [/QUOTE]Yes, that works for me.

Any time I took the whole 20mg pill I got a little headache and sometimes got a little sick

before buying viagra, cialis and levitra, it is necessary to meet some good and honest girls. first, it is necessary to find good sex providers about swallow blowjobs, anal sex, anuslingus, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] etc, and only after men should talk about sexual inhancers. and well (!) , we pay girls to have sex with us, and therefore girls should work to fuck us, and we haven't got tired to fuck her!

that's silly to pay an airfare, plus an accommodation, plus a restaurant meal, plus a medicine, plus a taxi, plus a club ticket, plus a private dance, plus an expensive sex hour to get the same result to fuck any other girl in our own country. with that method, the average cost of a sex hour in kiev is about 300$.

and about rio, i have been once and i saw no 10, no 9, a 8, and a 6. all the rest were standard-appearance girls (and maybe less). i hope the average member here doesn't like anybody who breathes.

[QUOTE=Stevie69; 1257864]Why not buy them BEFORE you get there? Various online pharmacies sell them for $1-2 / pill.

How much to take? It depends on whether you are taking them as a necessity or as insurance. Age, alcohol, sleep, and the girl's hotness are all factors. For me a quarter is more than enough for up to 3 days. I once made the mistake of taking a full Viagra and I almost killed the girl, and myself. Only you know yourself. Do some dry tests.[/QUOTE]I thought about it but not sure if this products from online distributors always real. Kind of scary to play with unknown pills. Great that I ask this question here and avoided taking whole pill.) Thank you Stivie69

[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1257879]There are two types of Cialis available.

Cialis for daily use 2. 5mg and 5. 0 mg. You should start with 2. 5 mg. It should be taken every day once at about the same time.

Cialis 36 hours (Standard Cialis) 5, 10 and 20mg. This is supposed to be taken as needed. Start with a low starting dose of 5mg and only increase if necessary. It has a very long half life and it is not recommended to repeat the table before 24 hours.

If you have a existing heart disease I would strongly recommend to consult your doctor before taking this tablet. It is not recommend combining this table with nitrates (used to treat angina) or alpha blockers (used in prostatic hypertrophy) as it may cause dangerous fall in your blood pressure.

You may experience some drop in blood pressure, headache palpitation and nasal congestion,

Do not take if you have esxisting heart disease, liver or kidney problem, stomach ulcer, vision loss.[/QUOTE]Global Surfer it is a real good explanation. I have feeling that this help not just me but other guys as well who never used before. It is always a little scary to hear last part because you never can be sure what you have inside of you, but o well, you can try to see what is going to happen. I am not going to take it evryday and probably will start with 5 or 10 for a day and see how it going to work.

My question going to be if it is available in Kiev in Farmacy (aptekah) in all sizes? I would asume as anywhere in former USSR without prescription.