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[QUOTE=MeridienL;1873582]Some old reviews that GoldenTime has more mix of girls than just Romanian. Is that still true? Which clubs is better for GFE like kissing?[/QUOTE]Usually I would recommend Living Room. Best for combination of fun happy pretty girls and DFK is standard. However, given that your night out is Monday (night and it's Orthodox Easter, GT may be better.
For GFE and kissing in Düsseldorf, LR with Claudia, Larissa, Seda. For fresh Romanian beauties, Aca. But it's Orthodox Easter for most of Romanian girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1873676]For GFE and kissing in Dsseldorf, LR with Claudia, Larissa, Seda. For fresh Romanian beauties, Aca. But it's Orthodox Easter for most of Romanian girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you all for the advise. Went to GT and it was really good overall! Don't remember the names ATM but had 3 sessions with 3 different girls, a Turkish, a German and a Hungarian!
I had pre-booked hotel in Frankfurt, otherwise I might had just stayed here in Dusseldorf! Which clubs in Frankfurt are the best? Again for GFE experience and just for easy-going fun girls?
I will be there for 3 nights and would love to hear advise on which club to attend each day! .
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MeridienL;1874012]Thank you all for the advise. Went to GT and it was really good overall! Don't remember the names ATM but had 3 sessions with 3 different girls, a Turkish, a German and a Hungarian!
I had pre-booked hotel in Frankfurt, otherwise I might had just stayed here in Dusseldorf! Which clubs in Frankfurt are the best? Again for GFE experience and just for easy-going fun girls?
I will be there for 3 nights and would love to hear advise on which club to attend each day! .
Thanks.[/QUOTE]No truth, I couldn't find an attractive girl at GT for my last visits, depends on tastes, but in Frankfurt, Sharks is now number 1, if you find girls who attract You, good services level at Mainhattan. You can also try Oase but be careful about upselling, and can find some GFE at World if not too demanding for look. For GFE, forget Palace, but can find German girls there, when 80/90% of girls are Romanians in 4 others. If you go to Palace, make a deep French kiss to Stella. De for me.
Hi guys! So on an extended layover through NRW and Hesse, I did quick swing through Sauna Living Room and FKK Sharks, and thought I would drop my thoughts. So you have some idea of my perspective, through the years I have checked out Oase, Globe, Mainhatten, Sakura and Artemis.
Living Room is an easy ride by public transportation from Koln (a much nicer place to base yourself compared to Dusseldorf), provided that you are not staying too late. If you go to [URL]DBahn.com[/URL], type your destination in as "Ikea Kaarst," with the total travel time being about 40 minutes, depending on the length of the one change at Neuss. From there it is about a 10 minute walk to LR, a cinch if you know how to use Google Maps on your smartphone. If using the train, the last convenient train back to Koln was at 11:30 pm. After that, they got much less frequent, and longer. So head out to LR early for a good long stay.
Living Room is small. It's not an impressive layout. But it has two good things going for it 1) its reputation for better than average service / GFE, and 2) free beer. The girls are 99% Romanian, and I am only saying that because I am assuming the theoretical possibility that there is at least one girl there who is not Romanian. As for the women's attitude, it is a little better, but if it had not been advertised to me as such, I probably would not have noticed. In terms of looks, above average at best, but clearly good enough if you happen to jive with someone. The women are Romanian. Take it for what it is. Anyone who has visited an FKK more than once before knows the drill. And as stated before, the beer is free. You can either request one from the clearly bored bartender, or head outside where there is an open display refrigerator where you can grab one for yourself anytime. And it's not meisterchau. Its GOOD beer, many different brands that would be at the upper end in price in the USA. The food? Ok. I liked that they had currywurst and fries to order, which it seemed like everyone was getting. It's cheap food, but surprisingly satisfying, and much better than the standard pork with gravy and cauliflower with cheese sauce that you get at most places.
My overall recommendation? Go if you are in the area, but don't make a trip for it. Believe it or not, to my experience, it was the free beer that was the more unique quality rather than the attitude of the women. It's amazing how much of a difference that makes. Booze has always been a social lubricant. And being able to drink to my heart's content without thinking about prices or tabs made a surprising difference to MY state of mind. I can't imagine why more FKK's don't provide this option. Most guys wouldn't drink more than 5-6 beers, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the 60 euro that you pay to get in. And like in Vegas, drunken guys spend more.
I was also eager to check out FKK Sharks, which let's face it, gets a LOT of hype on this board. After visiting, though, I can see why some guys would really like it. Unlike Oase, which felt like a sprawling mansion, Sharks is one large cavernous room, probably a previous warehouse of some kind. There is an upper level, with a swimming pool and a Jacuzzi. It's a giant staircase to get up there, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if there have been a few drunken guys who have fallen on those steps and broken their neck. It's a pay bar, with beers going for 6 euro. The food is above average, with interestingly, a dedicated Asian food section. I liked that.
Getting here is relatively easy by mostly public transportation. If you get here in late afternoon early evening, you can take a direct, no change train from Frankfurt Hbf that takes less than 20 minutes. When you buy tickets, just type in Darmstadt Nord as your destination. But only do it when there is still sunlight, because it is a long walk from the station to Sharks, 15-20 minutes. Not hard to find, just far, and in a relatively remote area. The last direct train back is at 10 pm. At night, the better option is to take a cab to the main Darmstadt Hbf, from which trains run back to Frankfurt all night. There are always several cabs just outside Sharks, which will take you there for 10-12 euro. Just agree to the price beforehand. The train ride back is 15 minutes.
My thoughts were, well, for a giant warehouse room, it's as nice as it can possibly be. But then I saw that in the back, there is a huge outdoor area under construction, probably about halfway finished. If it looks like what I think it will, this will be a VERY nice club. The women here also 99% Romanian, but a notch above what you see in other places. I was expecting a very "sharky" attitude, but did not encounter it. Professional yes, but not unpleasant or businesslike. GFE is definitely a possibility here. The chances are no better or worse than other places. Just avoid the Moldovans.
Overall, my best experience thus far has still been Oase. Sorry Sharks fans, I am just sentimental. Maybe it was the awe of my first FKK visit. I liked the sprawling outdoor area in the early summer. And there was a much better international representation of women there. It may not be fair to compare the Oase of 3 years ago to the status quo today. From what I hear, Romanians have taken over everywhere. Other forum members can probably comment more intelligently on this. In addition, sorry to disagree with the stellar reputation that the NRW gets. I still have to get to GT, but if LR is one of the best ones in the NRW, I am not impressed. Maybe it's just that there are more FKKs there in number, but they aren't better.
I'll probably visit the area again in about a year. When I do, FKK World and GT are definitely the next destinations.
Thanks for the reviews, Manny. Not sure if your visits were recent since Orthodox Easter is the second worst time to go clubbing next to Christmas.
Which girls did you try at Sharks and LR? This gives us a better feel on your 'type' so we know where to refer you on your next trip.
Manny51: In my opinnion Oase LU is better now than it was 3 years ago.
Also, just of the top of my head I know at least 7 non romanians at sharks. No idea how you didn't spot them. 2 africans, a thai, a moroccan, a hungarian etc.
Oase also has a few asians, a few russians (or ukrainians) and the occational kenyan (though I haven't seen those in a few visits).
Actually oase has a higher percentage romanians than sharks at the moment from what I can tell, but the oase LU is still better imo.
Oase has at least 1 german girl and one cuban girl as well. At least as of January (last time I was there). Of course not all girls work every day / night.
During last week's trip, I sessioned with a a very pretty German girl (blonde, blue eyes) that works Oase one or two times a month and has a regular job. There was one Thai and at least two other full or partial asians, plus two brazilians.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1874529]Oase has at least 1 german girl and one cuban girl as well. At least as of January (last time I was there). Of course not all girls work every day / night.[/QUOTE]
I don't know where to put this summary of my FKK trip because it reports on multiple clubs, but this seems to be the most appropriate place.
This past weekend, I completed an eight-day tour of selected Hessen and NRW clubs, having a variety of experiences that I had posted under the individual club forums. The only disappointment was the Sharks raid, where I was detained with everyone else for about 2 hours and threw in the towel because the club would be closed for 3-4 more hours and I was not up to running to another nearby club that probably absorbed the overflow from Sharks.
For the most part, I did not really experience the upselling that others have complained about at Sharks and particularly Oase. The girls were friendly and simply asked what I was interested in doing, some choices having added cost of course. I think the question about 30 minutes to an hour was mainly asked to know how to move things along or take time bringing pleasure. Unless I knew the girl from a posting or other source, I often said, lets see how things go and I might extend. The only upselling I experienced was a very good looking small blonde Romanian (I think named Christa?) who would not kiss or accept DATY without an extra fiddy. She sits by the Oase entry door with Adele. Otherwise, almost all girls gave me at least LFK (I use mouthwash frequently), and either allowed or really enjoyed DATY.
I have been asked which club I liked and which had the best LU. Fortunately, I had a good comparison between Oase and Sharks and World, having attended each on multiple days. It is not fair to compare the Saturday LU at one club to a Monday LU at another. Fortunately, I attended all three clubs on a weekday and a weekend day.
As for the girl LU, I have to give the nod to Oase, slightly above Sharks and far above World. Overall service was more or less at all three clubs, but more couch interview time was given at World. Of course the best service was at Bernds. As for facilities and rooms, I have to give the strong nod to Oase. The rooms are far better than elsewhere and the outdoor area was better than World. It's tough to judge the Sharks outdoor area because it was closed for renovation. I also liked the interior layout and facilities of Babylon Elsdorf, although the LU was a bit weak. FKK Acapulco on a Monday night was hard to judge. The girls wear bikinis and lingerie and were generally not up to par with other clubs, but I found a great gem in Lisa, having a very nice body and superb service in the room. Acapulco food was pretty good, but the club facilities seems very worn and tattered. The best food award has to go to Babylon Elsdorf (particularly if you order off the menu), followed by Sharks. The worst, IMHO, was Oase, whose menu did not vary very much. I don't know how the girls can eat that every day, day in and day out.
I know that based on one club, the girls actually pay a higher entry fee than the guys do and are given a ticket for a meal, rather than being allowed to eat what they want like the guys do. They pay a 25 euro daily tax on top of that. They also pay more to stay there overnight. So a girl at a club for the day and staying overnight starts out 175 euro down, or has to make four standard rooms to begin coming out ahead for the day.
Generally, I slept the mornings at IBIS Budget or Mercure, booking them the day before based on where I was planning to go the next day. I put out the DND sign and it served my needs.
Itinerary:
Saturday, April 23: Arrival at FRA – drove to Sharks for the afternoon and evening. I had a nice time here, starting with Mariska / Yvette. She is really cute and pretty in my book and I enjoyed her in the room. I should have repeated. Erica was also a standout performer. Total sessions: 7.
Sunday: Oase. I had been here on previous trips. The layout is much the same but the private relax room, with wifi is a nice addition. Late at night, I introduced myself to Elizabeth (HU) by accident, because I didn't know what to look for. I had been looking for her early in the day, but the desk told me she would not be in. Bingo – a wonderful 90 minute session ensue, which was repeated again a few days later. Total sessions: 4.
Monday: Bernds and Acapulco. I drove over from Friedricksdorf to Bernds, arriving at the 1 pm opening. My first (post massage by Sandra) session turned into a hot threeway with Steffi and Nina on the downstairs couch. Man was that hot, much better than a two girl session at a Hessen club. Since Bernds is a club for a few hours and sessions and no more (unless you like sitting at the bar speaking German), I drove up to Velbert and stopped in Acapulco – one very good session with Lisa (RO). Total sessions: 4, including massage by Sandra and the threesome.
Tuesday: Babylon Elsdorf and Bernds. I stopped in Babylon because I had been there many years ago, had a nice time then, and vowed to stop in again for the experience. This is the only NRW club that the girls are nude. I loved the sauna and whirlpool. The menu was great. The girls were not up to Oase / Sharks standard, but generally were better than Acapulco and on par with World. After a terrific dinner, I headed over to Bernds for the evening, trying to check into Hotel Reuter, but ended up at Hotel Johnel. I intended to repeat with Maria who was there, but so was Anna and Tina. Oh, what to do and choices! Both Anna and Tina were wonderful and if I were a resident, they would be my FKK wives. Totals sessions: 3.
Wednesday: World. I saw some friends on Wednesday in Giessen and stopped into World for the evening, staying late. I liked the downstairs relax room (which the girls will offer some couch time), but I had trouble with the LU. All the girls that I had interest in did not seem interested in doing a session with me. I am clean, not badly overweight or old, so it was frustrating. I think part of the issue is that my habit / approach is to ignore or move away from girls that don't interest me, so I seem aloof? Total sessions: 1 plus a private daytime party elsewhere.
Thursday: Sharks. I arrived late, around dinner, because I had stayed out late at World and drove down from Giessen, checking into the IBIS Budget Darmstadt before arriving. I started out by have a nice dinner meal and sitting down to relax a bit before doing any sessions. Suddenly, a Turkish guy sat down next to me, nudged me awake, and said that the place was being raided by Police. I have never experienced one before, but I had read about them on the forum and so was relaxed about it. No sessions here tonight, but I did get a good look at the LU, which was about the same as it had been on Saturday. Based on that, I'the say that the Sharks LU on a weekday is better than Oase on a Sunday, but the Oase LU is better on a Friday and Saturday. Total sessions: 0 (raid).
Friday: Oase. I wanted to spend at least two days at Oase, one of them being Friday or Saturday. I chose Friday due to the more favorable weather and met a forum friend here, who pointed out Janey to me (thank you very much! Total sessions: 5.
Saturday: World and Oase. Based on recommendations of forum friends, I decided to give World another try, this one during the daytime and early evening. As a result, I got to peruse the outdoor area and enjoy a little rare sunshine. I liked the Oase outdoor a little better at this time, but maybe World is better during the summer. In either case, I wish that more girls had come outside to meet me. This only happened once last Sunday, when I did a session out in full view on one of the loungers against the wall at Oase. I ended up doing two sessions at World, a very cute blonde tanned RO (get the picture of the girl type I like?) with be cups, sitting by the door / entry to the buffet across from the bar. I had a nice standard session with her and she sent her two friends (Oona and Luana) to me a little while later for a 30 minute threesome. They wanted a present that I had given to their friend at the end of our session. I don't tip, but I like to give out a little nice present that they can use to girls that I session with. Beyond that, I again found the World LU to be somewhat disappointing, so I took a short drive to Oase to finish out the night.
I stayed until nearly closing at Oase, because the next day (May 1) was Orthodox Easter, and I knew from my visit last Sunday that the LU didn't improve until 1600 to 1700 hours, after I would already be on a plane out of FRA. I repeated with Janey for a nice 60 minute session, plus had two more. Total sessions for the day: 5, one being a threesome.
Epilogue: I had not realized it, but I scraped the outside of a rim on my Sixt rental when I entered the garage at Ibis Darmstadt. The garage entry is narrow and curvey. AFAICT, Sixt charged me 178 euro for the damage, with I should be able to recover through the insurance coverage provided by my credit card.
If you have any specific questions about my experiences, let me know by PM or forum post.
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1874664]The only disappointment was the Sharks raid, where I was detained with everyone else for about 2 hours
[/QUOTE]Can you say a bit more about this? While passing a kiosk this morning, I noticed some yellow-press headline about police filming VIPs in front of a brothel. Of course, being the yellow press, it might be exaggerrated or even made up, but reading about the raid on the same day makes me wonder whether there could be a connection.
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1874664]
FKK Acapulco on a Monday night was hard to judge. The girls wear bikinis and lingerie
[/QUOTE]Although I am a nudist, I usually don't visit FKK clubs when mongering, but rather partytreff clubs (though some of these sometimes have FKK days); the reason is price-of course I prefer the girls nude everywhere all the time. An exception is Dietzenbach, which is less expensive and also close by (and I have had many good and very few bad experiences there). I don't think I've been to a proper FKK club (other than Dietzenbach), but have asked at the door about prices at a couple and saw nude girls. OK, Hessen and not NRW, but somehow I doubt that the girls are nude at FKK clubs in Hessen and not in NRW.
But surely if it is called an FKK club the girls are nude?
[QUOTE=Mambomike;1874664]
This is the only NRW club that the girls are nude.
[/QUOTE]Really? There are many, many FKK clubs. Can someone confirm this?
Never heard of any (yellow) press present at a raid / check at FKK clubs. Maybe at Artemis, but all other checks through the authorities are taking place inside the club, no chance for pictures. Even in Berlin clients were not obliged to leave the club, and if you're not a celebrity nobody will be interested in a photo of you.
Most clubs in NRW are Saunaclubs = girls are wearing dessous, with a few exception as for example Schieferhof.
Most clubs in Hessen are FKK clubs = girls are more or less nude, except for one dessous day per week.
HB.
Hello folks,
I'm ending my journey near Stuttgart and want to do one last FKK visit tomorrow. Anyone has experienced all Sakura, Flamingo and Palace near Stuttgart? Could you give me a feel of.
The difference between the three clubs? Specifically, in terms of:
(a) girls friendliness (GFE, and talkative).
(b) clubs atmosphere.
(c) prices and no upselling.
I'm more into clubs with easy-going girls even though I like a pretty inside atmosphere that you can chill at.
A quick summary of my experience and perspective at Oase vs. Shark that I visited last 2 nights:
(a) Friendly and approachable girls at Shark. Hard to connect with / approach girls at Oase IMO. Most of the girls at Oase where like.
"don't talk to me unless you want to session right now". Very hard to feel a connection with such girls. Although there were 2 girls whom I liked and sessioned with.
At Shark though, I found it easier to connect with some girls and had really good sessions. To be clear, I'm usually good at this and would say completely felt the girls mode.
In Oase is really a drawback.
(b) I'd say Oase was really gorgeous with that Roman / Greek style. Shark was still nice but nothing comparable to Oase in decoration. Although, I loved how you could hear load music.
In the rooms by the Jacuzi at Shark. It was a unique experience.
(c) At Oase, almost all girls were just trying to upsell (as Sirioja had warned me about it correctly). At shark, you could easily hold a girl kiss her and she would move with the flow.
Vs. At Oase the girls are so straight for money and after 30 seconds want to jump in the room.
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[QUOTE=Mambomike;1874664]I don't know where to put this summary of my FKK trip because it reports on multiple clubs, but this seems to be the most appropriate place.
This past weekend, I completed an eight-day tour of selected Hessen and NRW clubs, having a variety of experiences that I had posted under the individual club forums. The only disappointment was the Sharks raid,
If you have any specific questions about my experiences, let me know by PM or forum post.[/QUOTE]Really good and useful report so many thanks. I love the club comparison reports and they do assist tourists like me to choose clubs. First, thanks for confirming you sessioned with Elizabeth (HU) who I've just queried on the Oase thread. Wish I'd looked here first! Did you happen to see her on any weekday as well as the Sunday?
Couple of questions if I may. First, if you could only go back to one of these clubs on a 1 day visit which would you choose and why? Secondly, if you had to select a stand out girl on your trip who would that be and why?
Many thanks. Really good report.
[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1874863]
Really? There are many, many FKK clubs. Can someone confirm this?[/QUOTE]They usually wear a little bit. But apart from lingerie day, they are usually not allowed to hide their nipples.