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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1934224]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.[/QUOTE]Why would they import when they can just copy.

Plenty of Korean branded Germany copies (some are actually quite nice, though I don't attest for the quality!

[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;1931606]I agree! Please guys stop paying that ridiculous amount for one shot! I understand for those who are coming to Korea for a few days or a week business trip to pay that, but not for the ones that are living in Korea! You will ruin everything for the rest of us! WTF?[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. The market is changing and some providers are just milking this bubble.

I've been living in Seoul for the past 15 years and prices have gone up through the roof but service quality is at an all-time low. Korean pimps are aware that Seoul's mongering scene is complicated and frustrating for foreigners. They know incall parlors ban non-Koreans and the worst part is. These agencies on B. P. are also the same incall parlors that will refuse service to a non-Korean, get them desperate and then charge them a way inflated rate as an outcall.

If you're like me and live here, just wait it out and hope for the best. I have one place that I go to and have been going to for almost 3 years. The managers all know me, know that I am a trusted regular and never give me any hassle. Even when they get a new girl, the manager tells her to treat me as a normal Korean customer. Even better. I pay the set price of a Korean customer but I never get the annoying 'hurry up' phone call, they always send me to their best (largest) room, and I get a BBBJ and a CIM every time. Downside is that it took me over a year to establish this relationship. But it's been good so far ever since. Is it a top-notch parlor with top 10% girls? Heck no. But it's not $250 either.

My advice, do what I do. I put that $250+ into a jar and every 6 months, go to Thailand.

Anyone know if the red lights are going to be closed for Chuseok / Korean thanksgiving? I don't want to make the trip only to find that no gals are available. Happened to me last year.

[QUOTE=LundonFrog;1934901]Anyone know if the red lights are going to be closed for Chuseok / Korean thanksgiving? I don't want to make the trip only to find that no gals are available. Happened to me last year.[/QUOTE]The holiday is Wed-Fri. Some may. And I mean a slight "may" be open on Wednesday. Thursday = generally closed / don't bother. Friday, ID say about 1/4 of the shops would be open with minimal staff but don't count on it. If you're coming from far away, ID say, stay where you are and just go next week.

Belle is a great place but if you're looking for a decent massage for 50 bucks more, then consider Jinji Anma.

It's located near Sinnonhyeon station in Gangnam. It's directly across the street from the Novitel Ambassador. There is a road going downhill between the 7-11 and the Best Western. The shop in on your left. Look for the inflatable, lit up sign on the roadside (at night).

Warning: This place is open to foreigners and will not charge you a higher rate (unless they think you're a dick for some reason) but it is extremely tough to navigate without at least some basic Korean skills and your happy-ending service may be sub-par. See below.

Price is 130,000 for roughly 90 minutes. I've been there on slower nights and it was closer to 2 hours.

When you walk in, you must look to your left and there will be a lot of shoe lockers. Pick any one and take the key. This key will have a number on it and this will be your ID number for the whole night. You'll go to the counter on your right and pay. The guy will ask you in Korean, what number you have. When the bill in settled, you will be told to go into the lobby area / locker room. The locker room is situated in the back and will have full sized lockers for you to change. Your key number will correspond to the locker.

Get totally naked and step into the shower area. Wash your junk and change into the provided massage pants and robe. The robes will be on your left when walking out of the shower area. Yes, on a busy night you will be surrounded by naked Korean men. But it's no different than any sauna in Seoul.

Once you have showered and changed you will sit in the lobby area to await your turn. The lobby has tables, a TV on and the waiters will offer you a drink of orange juice or whatever they have available. If you do not like smoke, you're out of luck because the Korean men will smoke in here like chimneys.

The waiter will immediately ask for your key number. Again, knowing basic Korean will help. Once the waiter knows your number he will put you in the que. On a slow night, the wait will be one or two minutes. On a packed night, you can wait for up to an hour.

When the waiter calls your number, you will follow him into the massage room. You'll find a standard massage table and just lie down and wait. A woman in here 30's or 40's will arrive wearing a nice mini skirt. No worry, this is just the massage woman. She will give you a thorough massage for about an hour to 90 minutes. But just because she's the massage women doesn't mean things won't get a little frisky. At the end of the massage, she will start to work on your cock. A good one will rub your inner thighs and stimulate blood flow, getting your rock hard. This is a mild JuaGen for those who know what it is. It's nowhere near professional level JuaGen but it's something at least. Koreans call is "Chonlipson. " Some people just come for the massage (price is 80,000).

Once you're stiff and ready to go, she'll get on the phone and call in the service girl. The massage lady with usually stay and keep your dick hard until there is a knock on the door. The service girl will come in and take over where the massage lady left off. The service girl is in her 20's, some as 19. They are way prettier and some are pretty hot. These are the 'rules. ' You can touch (not suck on) her breasts, ass and legs. However, you must be gentle. No hard squeezing or rubbing. You are not allowed to touch her pussy, try to remove her skirt or kiss her in any way. She will take her top off exposing her breasts and suck you off until you shoot your load into her mouth. She'll clean you up and you'll be on your way. Back to the shower area, change, get your shoes (leave the key) and you're done.

Warning: Foreigners may not get much with some of the service girls. I have friends that only got a little bit of sucking and lubed HJ. But YMMV depending on the service girl. There can be as much as 20 on a weekend night. So you'll be rolling the dice. If you do get one that will only jerk you off, there is no use complaining. You just lucked out. I know it's bad and wrong but that's just the way it is here. This is not Thailand.

If you are Caucasian and not comfortable being a farang in a lobby full of Korean men, do not go between 10 pm and 2 am and not on a Friday or Saturday. This is their high time. Try going at around 6 pm or in the early morning at 3-4 am.

[QUOTE=ShimShimhey;1934788]I would have to agree. The market is changing and some providers are just milking this bubble.

I've been living in Seoul for the past 15 years and prices have gone up through the roof but service quality is at an all-time low. Korean pimps are aware that Seoul's mongering scene is complicated and frustrating for foreigners. They know incall parlors ban non-Koreans and the worst part is. These agencies on B. P. are also the same incall parlors that will refuse service to a non-Korean, get them desperate and then charge them a way inflated rate as an outcall.

If you're like me and live here, just wait it out and hope for the best. I have one place that I go to and have been going to for almost 3 years. The managers all know me, know that I am a trusted regular and never give me any hassle. Even when they get a new girl, the manager tells her to treat me as a normal Korean customer. Even better. I pay the set price of a Korean customer but I never get the annoying 'hurry up' phone call, they always send me to their best (largest) room, and I get a BBBJ and a CIM every time. Downside is that it took me over a year to establish this relationship. But it's been good so far ever since. Is it a top-notch parlor with top 10% girls? Heck no. But it's not $250 either.

My advice, do what I do. I put that $250+ into a jar and every 6 months, go to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yep, I agree buddy. Only it's not that easy to go to Thailand when your married! I tried to PM you but I couldn't!. Thanks anyway, if you want we can meet up for a cold nice beer and share our 'secrets'!

[QUOTE=ShimShimhey;1935311]Belle is a great place but if you're looking for a decent massage for 50 bucks more, then consider Jinji Anma.

It's located near Sinnonhyeon station in Gangnam. It's directly across the street from the Novitel Ambassador. There is a road going downhill between the 7-11 and the Best Western. The shop in on your left. Look for the inflatable, lit up sign on the roadside (at night).

Warning: This place is open to foreigners and will not charge you a higher rate (unless they think you're a dick for some reason) but it is extremely tough to navigate without at least some basic Korean skills and your happy-ending service may be sub-par. See below.

Price is 130,000 for roughly 90 minutes. I've been there on slower nights and it was closer to 2 hours.

When you walk in, you must look to your left and there will be a lot of shoe lockers. Pick any one and take the key. This key will have a number on it and this will be your ID number for the whole night. You'll go to the counter on your right and pay. The guy will ask you in Korean, what number you have. When the bill in settled, you will be told to go into the lobby area / locker room. The locker room is situated in the back and will have full sized lockers for you to change. Your key number will correspond to the locker.

Get totally naked and step into the shower area. Wash your junk and change into the provided massage pants and robe. The robes will be on your left when walking out of the shower area. Yes, on a busy night you will be surrounded by naked Korean men. But it's no different than any sauna in Seoul.

Once you have showered and changed you will sit in the lobby area to await your turn. The lobby has tables, a TV on and the waiters will offer you a drink of orange juice or whatever they have available. If you do not like smoke, you're out of luck because the Korean men will smoke in here like chimneys.

The waiter will immediately ask for your key number. Again, knowing basic Korean will help. Once the waiter knows your number he will put you in the que. On a slow night, the wait will be one or two minutes. On a packed night, you can wait for up to an hour.

When the waiter calls your number, you will follow him into the massage room. You'll find a standard massage table and just lie down and wait. A woman in here 30's or 40's will arrive wearing a nice mini skirt. No worry, this is just the massage woman. She will give you a thorough massage for about an hour to 90 minutes. But just because she's the massage women doesn't mean things won't get a little frisky. At the end of the massage, she will start to work on your cock. A good one will rub your inner thighs and stimulate blood flow, getting your rock hard. This is a mild JuaGen for those who know what it is. It's nowhere near professional level JuaGen but it's something at least. Koreans call is "Chonlipson. " Some people just come for the massage (price is 80,000).

Once you're stiff and ready to go, she'll get on the phone and call in the service girl. The massage lady with usually stay and keep your dick hard until there is a knock on the door. The service girl will come in and take over where the massage lady left off. The service girl is in her 20's, some as 19. They are way prettier and some are pretty hot. These are the 'rules. ' You can touch (not suck on) her breasts, ass and legs. However, you must be gentle. No hard squeezing or rubbing. You are not allowed to touch her pussy, try to remove her skirt or kiss her in any way. She will take her top off exposing her breasts and suck you off until you shoot your load into her mouth. She'll clean you up and you'll be on your way. Back to the shower area, change, get your shoes (leave the key) and you're done.

Warning: Foreigners may not get much with some of the service girls. I have friends that only got a little bit of sucking and lubed HJ. But YMMV depending on the service girl. There can be as much as 20 on a weekend night. So you'll be rolling the dice. If you do get one that will only jerk you off, there is no use complaining. You just lucked out. I know it's bad and wrong but that's just the way it is here. This is not Thailand.

If you are Caucasian and not comfortable being a farang in a lobby full of Korean men, do not go between 10 pm and 2 am and not on a Friday or Saturday. This is their high time. Try going at around 6 pm or in the early morning at 3-4 am.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report. As for your advice on Thailand, the places I go to are not really that cheap either. Note: I don't go to the foreign catering joints like Cowboy or even MP on Ratchada. I usually go to small houses that offer HJ massage from students / race queen / OL types. These ones you can sometimes go all the way so it's like Belle with the chance for full intercourse. When the intercourse do happened, it can be something between 150-200 USD for the whole session so not that far off from the $220-250 in Seoul.

Just a note on BK from the expert there (I'm also senior contributor for local forums in Thailand. Flashing my cred a bit for perspective).

I have to be honest, in the past 2 years, I haven't explored much of Seoul's after dark playhouses as I used to. Why? Fucking Thailand. Beautiful fucking Thailand. But on occasion I will venture out to Cheonho, Seollung, or Gangnam just to see what's new. Sadly, my explorations have had less-than-stellar results. The few new places I have found were pretty good but straight up refuse foreigners so I saw no point on reporting them here or on other forums.

In general, ID say that the industry in Seoul is rapidly changing. When I first moved here, there were at least 10 massage parlors within walking distance to my apartment. Now, there are two. The standard pay for pussy services have gone into Officetels. But! Recent articles have mentioned that Korean laws now can go after the landlords in addition to the agency operators. So Officetells are in trouble. So where have all the girls gone? (1) High End Room Salons. These will attract the wealthy clientele who can dish out serious cash. This cash is often necessary to pay brides or pay off authorities. A popular salon near my house got raided by the police. From talking with the dude at the 7-11 (who chit chats with the valets all the time), the place was raided because of the lack of proper liquor licensing. Yeah, forget that the girls in there sucked cock for cash! LOL. Within 2 weeks, it re-opened under a new name / probably the same owner. That was over a year ago and it hasn't been raided since. So if a girl is smoking hot, a job at a room salon is a no brainier option. A standard FS Massage Parlor gig is a waste of time. (2) Online. Many girls are switching to working as cam-girls because as long as she does not show any muff, it's totally legal. (3) There are also Korean forums and websites (similar to Backpage) where FLs can hook up with clients. (4) An increasing number of girls (those who are not hot enough to work in a room salon) go to Tokyo or Osaka. Ever seen a mid level Japanese hooker? Koreans blow them away. Other popular destinations include Sydney, Melbourne, LA, NY, DC or Vegas.

Sadly, the red-light fishbowl window shops are pretty much dead and gone (Yongsan's tearing down was a sad day) and the days of the upscale Full Service Anmas are dwindling. But I'm not sad. Why? Fucking Thailand. Beautiful fucking Thailand.

Hi all,

Dec 2015 I was in Seoul on business. On the last day, managed to get out to Hooker hill. After walking up and down, and up the side street, settled on a girl in the bar on the side street (Usadan. Ro). Today looking at google street view, she may have been in one of the bars by ING bar or Peachphuzz bar. Not entirely sure. Her name was Mimi. 27 yr with a spinner body, around 5'0 tall, 90 lb. Probably the best looking one I saw that night. Got her a 2 drinks. We flirted for a while and then she gave me a pretty good PSE / GFE session. 2 shots, prob 260 k all together. Don't remember the exact amount.

In any case, I'm coming back to Seoul soon for another trip, and wanted to repeat the experience. Can anyone confirm she is still around?

[QUOTE=Creman;1933830][URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/%EF%B8%8F-ji-yeon-%EF%B8%8F-25yrs-old-165cm-natural-c-%EF%B8%8F-beautiful-fit-body-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Findependent-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/3811061[/URL]

After wading through a lot of crap and exchanging plenty of emails, I can attest to the fact that this ad is genuine. Girl was drop dead gorgeous and spent the entire hour with me. Service as promised with DFK & BBBJ but YMMV of course. Damage US $240 for a full hour.[/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm the report?

Saving this info for my business trip.

I was in Korea a few years ago and loved it there. The prices were significantly better then though.

I recall in Incheon bus terminal the Shinsegae mall across the street was one of the best times ever:

Walked in, 80 k for a massage one shot. Introduced to a girl and I then asked to see the line up. The rest were horrible so I took the first one. Boy was she unhappy! Hahaha made it up to her later but we really clicked. She was Chinese and spoke it so it felt easier for her maybe. Anyways, it was all normal. Then I went back a little later in the week and brought her Chinese dim sum to snack on. Boy did that do it. Didn't even shower, not even disrobing. Jumped on me and gave me BBF's which scared the shot out of me! But it felt so good! So she became my ATF and it was BB each time afterwards.

Planning on heading back for a visit but at the prices that are now 3 x what they were. I'm a little hesitant.

[QUOTE=Commco;1932596]Hi,

Second trip to Seoul and 2nd success with BP. Which seems against the odds (must be my English charm).

1st was a tall slim russian back in January 16, who's name I forget, though I have not seen her advertise since (and I have been frequently looking).

2nd was tonight with stunning (I kid you not) Korean called Soda. 25 yrs, slim. Just perfect body, face, smell and taste. The photos posted on her advert are not real but close enough to give you an idea. In person, she will blow you away.

Agreed 230 kwon for the hour. Which I lasted about 40 mins (I dare you to beat this). She cleaned up and came back to bed for a lot more kisses and cuddles before leaving. All listed services tried (apart from massage), so, considering the other adverts and quotes I received, I would say a bargain was had..[/QUOTE]Hi Commco,

Helpful posts.

Could you share with us the link or more info on SODA? I'm wondering if it's this SODA you Heading to Seoul soon. I'm wondering if it's this one: [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-korean-girl-soda/3799324[/URL].

BP seems like it has tons of agencies masquerading as independents from the email replies I've gotten.

Thanks Mate.

Going to be in Seoul next week for work.

Looking on BP. The prices are ridiculous! Is there anything decent for under $100 USD? Just after something for half an hour.

[QUOTE=NewToTheScene;1937231]Going to be in Seoul next week for work.

Looking on BP. The prices are ridiculous! Is there anything decent for under $100 USD? Just after something for half an hour.[/QUOTE]Yup ridiculous that's Korea these days.

And Sora maybe is also an agency. Look at this ad.

[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-independent-korean-sex-girl-becky-will-wine-and-dine-you-lets-have-some-fun-together/3729515[/URL]

The content is identical to the Soras's ad, only change the hobby, snowboarding for surf, ect, and two things more. Becky has this review " by woolly – 19 Apr 2016.

This is an agency, and not an escort. You are not getting the girl in the pics. And the girl won't be 25. Girl was over one hour late too. Nothing against the girl who showed up (she was about 35). She was OK, good BBBJ. Advertise as an agency please, and not as an individual. I would give a 3 star review because the girl who came was good at what she does, but, 1 star deduction for being over an hour late".

What I mean is that it is just luck. Agencies sometimes send you a diamond and maybe Sora is one of them, but. Next time you'll meet Sora? Or another girl from same agency, like Becky. Or maybe just she copied the ad. I'm not sure, just want to provide information!

[QUOTE=Caspi;1937203]Hi Commco,

Helpful posts.

Could you share with us the link or more info on SODA? I'm wondering if it's this SODA you Heading to Seoul soon. I'm wondering if it's this one: [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-korean-girl-soda/3799324[/URL].

BP seems like it has tons of agencies masquerading as independents from the email replies I've gotten.

Thanks Mate.[/QUOTE]