Kyiv

I think they usually reply.

'Give me $500'

'Give me a phone'

'Fuck off'

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1258358]With all of the above things that you want to do to the Nice girls in Kiev, has any of them, turned round and told you, 'You are a Pain in the Ass?[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about the quality guys, like Dr Skank who I know is no longer with us.

I was at one of 109's old rental apartments today, circa 2006, a little blast from the past.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1257455].

Acolonizer, is still reading&posting, and Yeah everything Without Condom.[/QUOTE]

As long as you are having a good time that's all that matters.

$100 for BBBJ and generally whatever else I want (I don't do anything BB). They usually stay until I boot them to make room for the next one. Or I just outright tell them another girl is coming over and they are welcome to stay and join.

Working girls in Kiev used to do BBBJ as part of the standard service up until 2005. I can only assume too many of them started getting STD's. So the whole WG mafia throttled back on that. It's still rather common with semi pros, of course YMMV.

The clubs in Kiev are loaded up with working girls. Of course there aren't anymore 99% environments like River Palace but you shouldn't have a problem finding them. The highest concentration is probably at D'Lux.

[QUOTE=Santa75; 1257139]I appreciate your view and acknowledgde that I still have a hell of lot to learn about the Kiev P4P-scene. The key word is, you wrote it yourself: expericene, and there's a first time for everything.

The freebie-scene is tempting and I hope to explore it next time around. But most guys on this forum does NOT have unlimited time to hunt for devuschkas whilst in Kiev. As the scene is less straightforward than for instance Germany (no FKK's, no red-light district) one could easily be left with weighing up more expensive options in nightclubs or strip-joints.

The sponsor-girl that you suggest I overpaid for, (attached pic from the photo session she did with with me) stayed 24 hours and gave me a great GFE with BBBJ and CIM (which I believe is rather uncommon amongst working girls in Kiev). What services and length of time are you talking about when you say that you only pay $100?[/QUOTE]

The 'business managers' are generally taking 50% if not more.

[QUOTE=Santa75; 1257118]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that RIO is willing to "lose" a girl for the rest of the night without getting a cut of the $300. But you're right, she could get by for some time even with $150.

I enjoyed being able to feel her up and interview her at RIO, BEFORE I decided to take her home, something which I sadly couldn't do with the fake Mamba- and Top-Modals-girls.[/QUOTE]

Theoretically there are no working girls at Shooters, managements bans them.

But I'm bumping into 5-10 semi pros I know every time I go there.

They do get tossed and banned if caught plying their trade.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1257052]I have heard from several reports that its a fair club with huge amount of pros and semi pros. Is it true? Can somebody explain whats going on there? In there gallery there is a quit big amount of hot looking girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1258270]Cialis for daily use is new formulation and unlikely to be available in small doses in most countries outside US and western europe. Most common Cialis dose is 20 mg. Even 10 is hard to find. You can easily break it and use 10 MG every 36 hours or every other day.[/QUOTE]Thank you Vitrea. So I just will but in Kiev 10-20 and break it.

I tried to use mamba before and it did not work too good for me, so I was about to ignore it but decided to give it one more try.

Just want to inform you guys on my experiment.

Sent messages only to girls who show up on my screen after I pick sex as my intention for meeting on mamba in Kiev.

Sent messages to about 30 girls today. Very simple and straight forward. That I will be in Kiev in near future and want to know how much and how we can meet?

Received several responses. No phones provided immediately. Prices was quoted 4 times. 3 times 600gr. And once 1000.

Several times received response to contact them when I am ready for it.

Will keep you posted. Still not sure because there is so many escort sites with similar prices.

Thought to contact possible amature girls just for dating and fun and possible action but I don't think it worth it at all. Better to do it while in Kiev and meet face to face.

Still not sure because there is so many escort sites with similar prices.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1258421]I'm talking about the quality guys, like Dr Skank who I know is no longer with us.

I was at one of 109's old rental apartments today, circa 2006, a little blast from the past.[/QUOTE]Any ideas where is Old Bez Bezarra?

He did put some life into the Kiev thread.

Might look him up on Collins Ave, Miami, when I head to Fort Lauderdale.

How would I recognize him.

Have Fun In Kiev& learn new tricks.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1258203]Most probably the 10&9 you didn't see, were with Liljoey.[/QUOTE]Do I detect a note of skepticism, Jojosun? The line up at Rio speaks for itself. I am satisfied as to the quality there for my purposes. I have stated clearly in my reports how the options there compare favorably with the other available options. I regard these as objective facts. I have no agenda other than to inform others on how to enjoy the same things I have found pleasing to myself. But to each their own. I am quite picky. But if you feel that the viewpoint of a fellow monger like Acolonizer is more in tune with your own, then feel free to stay away from the Rio club and boink women whose backside looks like the one in the photo Acolonizer just posted recently on this thread.

And rest assured I would never cock block a guy like Acolonizer from getting a beauty at Rio, and quite the opposite I would pay good money to a manager to be seated at the adjoining booth so I could overhear his interview with a typical lovely 19 year old university student recently hired to dance at Rio, as he asked her if she would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on him or could he possibly shove his fist way up her ass_LOL. The reaction of the poor young thing would have to be one of those priceless moments. I have been reading his posts complaining about the too high prices, waiting in vain for him to report about an actual negotiation he has conducted and describe the details in "he said, she said" fashion, so maybe I could learn something.

I will be in Kiev soon enough though from March 30 to April 4. I have already set up dates with former and current Rio, Mamba and Top-modals girls and 1 RP girl that I know from prior trips, so my calendar is getting full even before I scope out the line up there.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1258435]Theoretically there are no working girls at Shooters, managements bans them.

But I'm bumping into 5-10 semi pros I know every time I go there.

They do get tossed and banned if caught plying their trade.[/QUOTE]19March should be a good night at Arena Club. Hosting the After party for Eurofashion2012.

Some hot girls heading there.

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1258450]Do I detect a note of skepticism, Jojosun? The line up at Rio speaks for itself. I am satisfied as to the quality there for my purposes. I have stated clearly in my reports how the options there compare favorably with the other available options. I regard these as objective facts. I have no agenda other than to inform others on how to enjoy the same things I have found pleasing to myself. But to each their own. I am quite picky. But if you feel that the viewpoint of a fellow monger like Acolonizer is more in tune with your own, then feel free to stay away from the Rio club and boink women whose backside looks like the one in the photo Acolonizer just posted recently on this thread.

And rest assured I would never cock block a guy like Acolonizer from getting a beauty at Rio, and quite the opposite I would pay good money to a manager to be seated at the adjoining booth so I could overhear his interview with a typical lovely 19 year old university student recently hired to dance at Rio, as he asked her if she would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on him or could he possibly shove his fist way up her ass_LOL. The reaction of the poor young thing would have to be one of those priceless moments. I have been reading his posts complaining about the too high prices, waiting in vain for him to report about an actual negotiation he has conducted and describe the details in "he said, she said" fashion, so maybe I could learn something.

I will be in Kiev soon enough though from March 30 to April 4. I have already set up dates with former and current Rio, Mamba and Top-modals girls and 1 RP girl that I know from prior trips, so my calendar is getting full even before I scope out the line up there.[/QUOTE]Liljoey, how you set up dates with Rio girls? Did you phone them or by the computer (for example skype)? How was the weather in your 2011 April visit in Kiev? Was it hot enough too see mini skirts in the streets or still cold?

[QUOTE=Cruiser D; 1258435]Theoretically there are no working girls at Shooters, managements bans them.

But I'm bumping into 5-10 semi pros I know every time I go there.

They do get tossed and banned if caught plying their trade.[/QUOTE]How do I recognise high quality pro in delux or scooters? If you was travelling to Kiev now to bang the best looking girl (real 9-10) and you have only 2-3 days, where are the highest chances in Kiev to find her? Rio, delux, schooters or somewhere else? I know soft rhino have best line up, but sex is not aloud unfortunately. Maybe you know the answer where best girl can be found.

[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1258450]Do I detect a note of skepticism, Jojosun? The line up at Rio speaks for itself. I am satisfied as to the quality there for my purposes. I have stated clearly in my reports how the options there compare favorably with the other available options. I regard these as objective facts. I have no agenda other than to inform others on how to enjoy the same things I have found pleasing to myself. But to each their own. I am quite picky. But if you feel that the viewpoint of a fellow monger like Acolonizer is more in tune with your own, then feel free to stay away from the Rio club and boink women whose backside looks like the one in the photo Acolonizer just posted recently on this thread.

And rest assured I would never cock block a guy like Acolonizer from getting a beauty at Rio, and quite the opposite I would pay good money to a manager to be seated at the adjoining booth so I could overhear his interview with a typical lovely 19 year old university student recently hired to dance at Rio, as he asked her if she would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on him or could he possibly shove his fist way up her ass_LOL. The reaction of the poor young thing would have to be one of those priceless moments. I have been reading his posts complaining about the too high prices, waiting in vain for him to report about an actual negotiation he has conducted and describe the details in "he said, she said" fashion, so maybe I could learn something.

I will be in Kiev soon enough though from March 30 to April 4. I have already set up dates with former and current Rio, Mamba and Top-modals girls and 1 RP girl that I know from prior trips, so my calendar is getting full even before I scope out the line up there.[/QUOTE]Liljoey, what makes you detect a bit of skepticism in my reply to Acolonizer, re (the Reason) for the lack of 10&9 girls on the night of his so called visit to Rio. .

I am a fan of Rio Club, and I usually go there every night when I am in town.

I agree with you about the line up & the convenience of take out, now River Palace is gone.

I tried to talk some of the girls to meet me 4 happy hour during the day, but no joy so far.

Unlike some of the girls at River Palace in the old days.

Its just US$ 300 in one GO, is above my budget for Kiev or anywhere for that matter. I have to budget for a lot of temptations in London during the week as well.

One of them was a 30 stone 220kg Young Black Girl in London, by the name of Zen Fierce, which cost me 120 an hour or nearly US$175 for one hour. Call me a wierdo

Its your money& its your choice. No need to explain why you think its a good deal 4 U at Rio.

Just make sure that you don't pay for sex more than. TEN Times the Price Of a Hair Cut at the Top Hair Dressing Salon in Kiev. See my earlier posts in reply to Asian Chaos re his question How Much to pay for Sex In Kiev.

Now I am toying with the idea of catching a plane to Kiev, if for anything to catch Marcia at Arena Club on Monday night party, in aid of World Water Day. Would love 2 get her wet on the night.

I doubt they are going to have wet tea shirt competitions on the night. Kiev is not Fort Lauderdale of the old days during Spring Break.

[url]http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/MARCIA/7769760772?sk=wall&filter=12[/url]

Marcia on her facebook, Eurofashion2012 in Kiev.

After 14 hours of deep sleep I woke anxious for today's action. I had a 60+ message contact from Mamba due at 2PM. No call. No Mamba response. Why did she bother with all those messages?

By 2:30 I decided to roll the dice. Went back to Mamba and searched for currently online talent. Sent a half dozen messages and got a couple quick responses. Mostly stating $100 / hr. Called one and smelled a pimp. Then got a response that said $150/2-3 hours from a 27yo MILF that swore her pics were real. She showed up in 30 minutes and I bet the pics were shot last month. Talked for awhile, and moved off to the bedroom. Very nice round one, all covered, but DFK and real decent skills. We showered talked awhile and I thought she would move on. Wrong there. After a glass of fruit juice and some more conversation she led me back to the bedroom. I tried to explain that my recovery time was a little more than the 45 minutes that we had talked, but she wasn't having any of that. After a LONG session, and a thoroughly explosive finish it was back to the shower. She still wasn't making any moves to get dressed! We talked some more. We grazed on the goodies in the fridge. Listened to music and acted like teen lovers. Total GFE except for the condoms. She finally left at 9:30. With the hefty tip I ended up paying $200 for nearly six hours with this great lady. Can't get rates like that on the streets in Tijuana. If it weren't for my absolute NEVER repeat policy I know what the next three days would be spent doing. Total jackpot experience.

Since my body is 10 time zones off from Kiev, I'm real wide awake at 10PM, so I figured despite being thoroughly wrung out it was time to explore the club scene. First stop Rio. Now it may have been an off night, or maybe I was on the wrong floor, but I sat there through the entire lineup, a couple times. Two and a half hours and I had two on my list as dooable. I like slender, and most of these girls have tummies. I counted a couple real 3's, plenty of four-sixes, a couple sevens, and one eight. Maybe my standards are high, maybe an off night. My regular stomping ground is Hong Kong Club in Tijuana and I have to say this place is lame by comparison. What's with a strip club without nudity? Might as well have been in California. I sat with one of the real cuties through a couple drinks, we'd had nice eye contact while she danced through the couple sets I watched. We had great conversation, she wants to be a model. Took her off for a private dance, which was hot. Finally the bottoms came off, but in a pretty dark booth. Thought I might as well see if I could set something up for tomorrow. Not happening. She "never" leaves the club. Now I'm not bad looking, well dressed, well spoken, and I don't stink, so I was a bit miffed but figured I had picked the wrong girl. Sat back down, and my number two candidate was just getting on stage. Didn't invest in the drinks this time, but went for two REAL hot dances. Popped the question, and got the same damn line. OK a long time ago I learned that strippers get a kick out of teasing, and a good WG likes to see her customer satisfied. This is not the place for me.

I moved on to Shooters. Some times a situation just makes me feel like an old pervert, and this was one of them. If there was anyone in that room within 15 years of my age I sure didn't see them. Did a quick exit and moved on to Buddha. I felt more at home, my slacks and sports jacket weren't glaringly out of place. There were some amazing looking women, so I decided to suck up another sparkling water and see what would turn up. Didn't take long and I was asked if I would like to buy a drink. She was a solid 8. 5, natural blond, blue eyed EU classic. Conversation quickly came to the $500 / hr point. Best laugh I've had in weeks. Sure glad I was still feeling far from needy though, damn she was hot looking.

I'd go to the prime tourist spots. D'Lux and Buddha Bar. I think you are likely to find jaded pro's at Buddha Bar working the clueless foreingers and more likely to find some semi pros at D'Lux having a fun night out.

Haven't been to Rio in 4 years so I can't advise on the talent there.

There are also super hotties on mamba but you have to know what you are looking for and of course YMMV. Any time a girl replies to your 'privet! Kak dela' with services and rates you just came upon an agency. It's not a bad thing but your chances of having the girl in the photo sent to your door are about 20% at best.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1258460]How do I recognise high quality pro in delux or scooters? If you was travelling to Kiev now to bang the best looking girl (real 9-10) and you have only 2-3 days, where are the highest chances in Kiev to find her? Rio, delux, schooters or somewhere else? I know soft rhino have best line up, but sex is not aloud unfortunately. Maybe you know the answer where best girl can be found.[/QUOTE]