East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1778339]Supposedly, prostitution is tolerated in HK and Macau. I read in the 9/2 issue of Ming Pao, the Hong Kong newspaper, about a police raid in 2 hotels in Kowloon on 9/1. They arrested 24 girls and 2 pimps. Another poster said those arrests were mainly for immigration violation. But there is this item in Firefox China today, about joint efforts by the Chinese, Hong Kong and Macau police to crack down on prostitution in those SAR. There was a raid in Macau on 9/17. They arrested 31 individuals (8 staff, 21 girls and 2 johns). The stated purpose of all those raids was eliminating vice, not immigration issues.

Hope the crackdown will not be spreading to more and more places, especially our beloved Shanghai.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is LEGAL in HK. Living of the proceeds of prostitution (I. E. : pimping) is ILLEGAL.

[QUOTE=GregoryB;1781122]Haha so you are dog expert?[/QUOTE]The only dog I have experience of came from SNG. She robbed me of 2000 and left in 20 minutes. I was glad she left.

She should have taken your dog trick course. Haha.

Last night the Royal Massage by the Hilton was a construction site.

There may not be much points in debating prostitution laws in Hong Kong in the Shanghai forum, but there is a difference between legal, like in the Netherlands, where legislation was passed and enacted, vs not prohibited (as tolerated, the term I used.), which is the situation in Hong Kong. If there is such a law in Hong Kong, please cite that by Act, Chapter, section and clause in the Law Acts. It is an offense to engage in public solicitation, living off earnings of prostitutes, or maintaining a vice establishment. Thus many working girls work alone out of a flat. [URL]www.hkelaw.com/[/URL].

The South China Morning Post also had this article in Feb 18,2014 talking Hong Kong Police's reaction to the Dongguan raids: "Yesterday, Commissioner of Police Andy Tsang Wai-hung said as a result of the raids, police in Hong Kong would be increasing operations against vice establishments. "To prevent the sex trade from proliferating in Hong Kong, we have stepped up our operations against the sex trade recently," he said after a radio interview. ".

And: "In 2012, Hong Kong signed a tripartite agreement with Macau and Guangdong to tackle cross-border crimes, with the sex trade a key part of the collaboration.

Police would not release figures on the number of sex workers they have arrested in recent years or the number of vice establishments that have been raided or shut down. ".

[URL]www.hkelaw.com[/URL] also reported on the trial and conviction of the operator of an online directory for prostitutes, where they have pictures, services offered, and contact information. He did not work as a pimp. Just some techie doing the local version of Craigs List. He got 18 months in prison.

If you are saying, as a John, you will not be arrested, put in jail, fined and possibly deported if you are caught buying sex in Hong Kong, unlike in China, you are probably right. That may be the only practical aspect about prostitution laws we as mongerers are really concern about.

[QUOTE=FiveAces;1781327]Last night the Royal Massage by the Hilton was a construction site.[/QUOTE]Do you mean to say there were lots of poundings and hammerings there?

[QUOTE=Ahehehe;1780744]With all due respect to any person possibly involved, how is Cathy, indeed? Anyone?[/QUOTE][URL]cathyshanghai.com[/URL]

Check her out.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1781473]Do you mean to say there were lots of poundings and hammerings there?[/QUOTE]No. It was a construction site as in workers and the place was gutted.

[QUOTE=Ahehehe;1780744]With all due respect to any person possibly involved, how is Cathy, indeed? Anyone?[/QUOTE]This site was here for me when I first started coming to Shanghai and really needed it. That is why I care.

I do not intend to pick on anyone. My problem is that there is a lot of "not the best advice" being given here on ISG in support of external commercial interests.

If you are new to Shanghai your absolute best bet is to go to a sauna.

So first time back here in a few years. I used to be a regular at Sacros and Yuping (once a month) back when I came to shanghai every month and the exchange rate wasn't so shitty.

So yesterday I went to Bodi, had been once before and enjoyed myself. Turned up at 1200 as that's what I read online. No girls til 1300.

OK so I watched TV and smoked a lot.

Off to the fishbowl, to be fair I had a boner looking at the girls, but none made any eye contact, it was all 'don't pick me evil westerner with your vagina destroying western penis'.

Took number 538, average height with sexy curves (not fat but nice tits and hips, small ass, nice legs).

Off to the room. Nuru was interesting. I imagine that's what a sex robot is like, performs the actions well but to be fair it was robotic. Mind you, compared to south america every experience (bar a few in yuping back in 07/08) in China which I have.

Had in a sauna was a bit mechanical.

Still, she did her thing and I had a raging boner so I guess it worked.

Off to the bed, then it started. You know. The 'hand job no fucking' routine. Ok so I am larger than average but I'm not packing a fucking nuclear submarine. At least give it a go, why'know. Spinners in Bangkok have taken it up the shitter, surely a Chinese cutie won't split in two.

Anyways, her ass rimming was wonderful so we settled on her eating my ass and giving me a tug at the same time. Shot a load in her mouth which she promptly hacked up and spat into a bucket.

Have decided that I am done with saunas here. Am fortunate enough to travel a lot and I'd rather spend the money somewhere that the girls are good at faking enjoyment rather than moaning like porno stars when they are rubbing my cock, who are they trying to kid. At least in somewhere like Buenos Aires or Rio I come away.

Actually wondering if the chick did like me (although we all know they don't, they can put it on rather well).

Don't get me wrong, turn back the clock a few years when I had done less international mongering and my mind would have been blown and for someone who deosn't get here much, I thoroughly recommend the Bodi experience, it was definitely the cutest lineup I have seen here. I think I amd just jaded.

Anyways, deciding to stick to HJ's in future in China, because a good handjob is WIN, Today I stopped by the Lofty Club massage Spa, Lancun Lu / Yanggao Nan Lu, across from the Hilton Doubletree and beside Red Lips bar and a few other massage joints (Hilton BTW has the paradise sauna and today it looked closed at 1430 - not a bad thing as it was always full of strategically dressed miserable cunts).

Have been to lofty in the past, its 400 for a 90 min oil massage, I paid 300 for an hour (not on the menu) with number 6, an early 30's cutie with a sparkle in her eye.

Showered, decent back massage for my cricked neck and then onto some excellently done oil / ass work. Hard as a rock. Flipped over, negotiated 300 tip as I was feeling generous and actually turned on by her tender ministrations to my balls and asshole. Nothing mechanical here.

So she sits between my legs and proceeds to give me a 20 minute oily handjob whilst making sure my prostate is OK, lots of eye contact and smiles. Shot a load. Showered, left. Very content. Much rather have something like that than a girl moaning as if she is having multiple orgasms just because she is soaping my back.

Anyhow.

I don't contribute nearly as much as I should. Maybe I can stay motivated.

[QUOTE=FiveAces;1781792]This site was here for me when I first started coming to Shanghai and really needed it. That is why I care.

.[/QUOTE]I will agree with you. In my beginning here, there seemed to be more reports, more people sharing and less one poster wonders asking for summaries so they didn't have to read the forum. I am not sure what happened. If it was the windy city that made things go underground or there are just no stories to tell.

My thanks to those that continue to post relevant information. My trips to Shanghai are limited now, but I always try to bring back new information on my return.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1781175]Prostitution is LEGAL in HK. Living of the proceeds of prostitution (I. E. : pimping) is ILLEGAL.[/QUOTE]

My understanding of Hong Kong prostitution is that it is only legal if it is 1 woman in a single apartment. They will put up a yellow sign or notice to attract customers. I was never approached on the street there.

I did go to a proper "working girl" house in Kowloon that even had a neon sign but the drill was: The madam brings in the girls, you pick one and then the two of you go upstairs and rent an "apartment complete with shower room and bedroom" to do the deed in. That makes it 1 woman in 1 apartment.

Also they have whole apartment buildings or several floors of one dedicated to 1 woman in 1 apartment units. You can start at the top and knock on doors until one likes you and lets you in. They have tv monitors to see who it is. They advertise on web sites but in Cantonese.

It was a few years ago but the Wan Chai red light district was ripping till dawn with Thai and Philippine girls. A couple of years later they closed one very famous joint there down because Columbian girls were coming there and refused to stop selling coke.

Off the top of my head the crackdown going on there might be motivated by organized crime in the background. Drug dealing specifically. The press is periodically howling about prostitution in Shenzhen as well.

[QUOTE=SamCan;1588463]I just got back from SH. I went to wanhang du a couple times this trip. I have been there before but it has changed. They walk me to the room, bring the girl. Ask me if the girl is ok. (I don't know what happens if you say no. As I just went with it). The menu is either HJ for 268 or BBBJ for 328. I asked the girl the first time about a condom and the mamasan the second time. Both times the answer was no. There is however a BBBJ in store for you if that is what you are looking for. .

I chose the HJ. Routine is the same there but different than other shops. I had 2 girls routine didn't change.

1. you shower and are not given shorts to wear.

2. the girl massages your lower back and then takes off her top and switches to breast massage.

3. the girl then switches to body lick (with her actual tongue, not the ball thing) from your ears to your calfs to include the inside of your legs.

4. on the flip she continues the routine and ends with a HJ and a clean up.

5. repeat shower at the end if you like.

The 2 girls I had were bigger girls from Hubei. They definately had enough up top to do a breast massage. The first one was fine. The second was a little too "fluffy" for my tastes. When the second girl took off her top, I noticed she had a belly. I mean like 3 months pregnant belly. She probably wasn't but you understand,.
I like small thin spinners. This girl has some large breasts if that was your thing. She was in her 20's and pretty in a heavy kind of way.

The first girl was prettier, younger and on the lighter side. She was #8. She was be my choice if I did it again.

Twice was enough for me. , however. No tip is asked for or expected. I gave the first girl a tip for 100 as the service was good. She smiled and was surprised.

Keep that in mind when you go.[/QUOTE]

I went yesterday and chose the bj option which they charged me 338 for plus I gave the girl a 50 rmb tip for bravely doing cim. She was surprised and pleased.

When I arrived there were 2 young as in their early 20's and thinish girl next door looking girls in the lobby. One took me to a room and asked if she was ok which she was.

She offered FS for 500 but I declined in favor of bbbj cim which was included with the 338 rmb. Service was as SamCan described and unhurried and friendly.

Last night about 6:30 there were 3 bbs's open on Anyuan Lu. The lights were out but the girls were sitting by the glass. They looked good but I was done already.

Visited the Buddha place on Changping, just west of Shanxi. Lots has been said about this place, but it is currently worthwhile. 268 gets you a BBBJCIM and a full hour. The drill was, guy at desk escorts you to the room and gives you a numbered tag. You use this for payment later. Girl stops by, and if you tell her she is ok, she will ask you to take a shower. Wash yourself well. Dry off and lay down. Girl returns and does a regular massage, followed by removing her top and giving you a boob massage and water in the mouth massage. Then you flip, and she pretty much goes to work on Johnny. Last girl took it all in her mouth. Then she goes out to clean her mouth, and asks you to take another shower. When she returns, you get a massage for the rest of the hour.

At some point she may ask if you want to add time. The total price for two hours is exactly double one hour. I don't recommend it unless you are good for 2 shots in two hours.

[QUOTE=LostInShanghai;1782891]Visited the Buddha place on Changping, just west of Shanxi. Lots has been said about this place, but it is currently worthwhile. 268 gets you a BBBJCIM and a full hour. The drill was, guy at desk escorts you to the room and gives you a numbered tag. You use this for payment later. Girl stops by, and if you tell her she is ok, she will ask you to take a shower. Wash yourself well. Dry off and lay down. Girl returns and does a regular massage, followed by removing her top and giving you a boob massage and water in the mouth massage. Then you flip, and she pretty much goes to work on Johnny. Last girl took it all in her mouth. Then she goes out to clean her mouth, and asks you to take another shower. When she returns, you get a massage for the rest of the hour.

At some point she may ask if you want to add time. The total price for two hours is exactly double one hour. I don't recommend it unless you are good for 2 shots in two hours.[/QUOTE]I am fascinated with the experience, BBBJCIM cannot be passed up, I typically end up going to bodi or shiyuanhuishuo across from intercontinental in pudong.

Can you please specify if this is pudong or puxi and whether the roads are specifically changping lu and shanxi lu? Also is the buddha a sign that they have?

Cheers.