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All this crap about cheep places should be in other part of the forum, lets talk about ac. If prices is up, its up can we move on. Those that can't afford ac can go to indo or elsewhere. Those that chose not to go to ac due to high prices can they post elsewhere unless they have soemething directly to contribute about ac
From "Harry the Horse":
This is John's story: 'This is a little adventure that happened to me a few days ago. I suspect that I am not the first victim of such a scam and would be interested in getting feedbacks from those who have been taken in a similar manner. I book a bar girl around 4 pm from the Gecko bar in Fields avenue (paid 'bar fine', I. E. The fee for an overnight booking) and take her back to my hotel. She orders an expensive meal (she must be hungry, never mind.). Two hours later she asks to leave. I am not overjoyed by this decision and accordingly do not tip her.
At about 9 pm I am called to the reception of the hotel : the girl is there with 4 police officers and I am been accused of brutality and having insulted the philippino police (!). At the police station I find that she has a friend, an older woman, advising her. Her testimony is full of inconsistencies, not to speak of downright lies – description of the physical abuses I subjected her to, claim that she had given my money back, claim that I had told her 'fuck the police' (nice touch I must admit). I am thinking, naively, they can't possibly believe her. They do. At least they pretend to. I am given the choice : obtain her forgiveness (sic) or the lock up with appearance before a judge some times in the future. I get the message. What is the cost of her 'forgiveness'? 5, 000 pesos. I know enough of the Philippines to understand that the police is on the take. Ok. I pay and think its over. No. After talking with her 'advisor' she changes her mind, and insists on pressing charges. I am locked up in a small cell with 8 other people sprawling over the floor. It is my fault, I did not show enough 'remorse'. This is seriously getting out hand. I call a friend who is a resident here. He arrives shortly after and enters negotiations with the police. The price has gone up to 50, 000 pesos. He calls a lawyer of his acquaintance in Manila. The girl and the police understand they have gone too far. The price comes down to 10, 000. Still cheaper than a lawyer's fee'.
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[quote=robbaf; 1213109]from "harry the horse":
this is john's story: 'this is a little adventure that happened to me a few days ago. i suspect that i am not the first victim of such a scam and would be interested in getting feedbacks from those who have been taken in a similar manner. i book a bar girl around 4 pm from the gecko bar in fields avenue (paid 'bar fine', i. e. the fee for an overnight booking) and take her back to my hotel. she orders an expensive meal (she must be hungry, never mind.). two hours later she asks to leave. i am not overjoyed by this decision and accordingly do not tip her.
at about 9 pm i am called to the reception of the hotel : the girl is there with 4 police officers and i am been accused of brutality and having insulted the philippino police (!). at the police station i find that she has a friend, an older woman, advising her. her testimony is full of inconsistencies, not to speak of downright lies – description of the physical abuses i subjected her to, claim that she had given my money back, claim that i had told her 'fuck the police' (nice touch i must admit). i am thinking, naively, they can't possibly believe her. they do. at least they pretend to. i am given the choice : obtain her forgiveness (sic) or the lock up with appearance before a judge some times in the future. i get the message. what is the cost of her 'forgiveness'? 5, 000 pesos. i know enough of the philippines to understand that the police is on the take. ok. i pay and think its over. no. after talking with her 'advisor' she changes her mind, and insists on pressing charges. i am locked up in a small cell with 8 other people sprawling over the floor. it is my fault, i did not show enough 'remorse'. this is seriously getting out hand. i call a friend who is a resident here. he arrives shortly after and enters negotiations with the police. the price has gone up to 50, 000 pesos. he calls a lawyer of his acquaintance in manila. the girl and the police understand they have gone too far. the price comes down to 10, 000. still cheaper than a lawyer's fee'.
[url]http://www.harrythehorse.asia/?p=3766[/url][/quote]now i have heard of everything. so far i thought taking girl from the bar is 100% safe. ac seems to be destroying itself. pretty soon all girls will hear this and maybe other girls will resort to this trying to make extra money with the help from the police ofcourse. the guy is lucky he was not acused of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] by the girl. maybe the guy used a condom (smart ). usually [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is established by collecting semen from the vagina.
how can you even get your dick up if you are worried about the girl going to police with all these stories?
i guess gone are the worry free enjoyment in ac.
well, to the girls defence do not know what this guy did or said.
we only hear one side in the harryb the horse article. but anyone who's been to the philippines shouldn't be surprised.
fighting back against this kind of bargirl extortion is simple. record your sexcapades, which is something i often do. most smartphones can record voice. or buy a cheapo recorder on ebay for $20. when the transaction is finished, try to get her to go on record (without her knowing, of course) that everything is fine. once she's gone, email the audio file to yourself so that you'll always have it even if your hardware gets confirep001ed by police.
if a girl is a runner, don't put up a fight. just let her go. likely, the patron said some unkind words which fueled her rage.
a lot of you who think money isn't a filipina's primary motivator need to reexamine your naiveity.
the philippines is a failed society on all levels and it is hardly surprising this occurs. this is another reason why pattaya gets 1000x more tourists than angeles city and why nothing short of an armed revolution will make the country better.
Leaving for AC today. I will make it a point to stop in Gecko's, look around and then say to the mamason: "oh, is this the bar where the girl called the police on a customer? Sorry, I must leave." Hope others will do the same.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1213109]From "Harry the Horse":
This is John's story: 'This is a little adventure that happened to me a few days ago. I suspect that I am not the first victim of such a scam and would be interested in getting feedbacks from those who have been taken in a similar manner. I book a bar girl around 4 pm from the Gecko bar in Fields avenue (paid 'bar fine', I. E. The fee for an overnight booking) and take her back to my hotel. She orders an expensive meal (she must be hungry, never mind.). Two hours later she asks to leave. I am not overjoyed by this decision and accordingly do not tip her.
At about 9 pm I am called to the reception of the hotel : the girl is there with 4 police officers and I am been accused of brutality and having insulted the philippino police (!). At the police station I find that she has a friend, an older woman, advising her. Her testimony is full of inconsistencies, not to speak of downright lies – description of the physical abuses I subjected her to, claim that she had given my money back, claim that I had told her 'fuck the police' (nice touch I must admit). I am thinking, naively, they can't possibly believe her. They do. At least they pretend to. I am given the choice : obtain her forgiveness (sic) or the lock up with appearance before a judge some times in the future. I get the message. What is the cost of her 'forgiveness'? 5, 000 pesos. I know enough of the Philippines to understand that the police is on the take. Ok. I pay and think its over. No. After talking with her 'advisor' she changes her mind, and insists on pressing charges. I am locked up in a small cell with 8 other people sprawling over the floor. It is my fault, I did not show enough 'remorse'. This is seriously getting out hand. I call a friend who is a resident here. He arrives shortly after and enters negotiations with the police. The price has gone up to 50, 000 pesos. He calls a lawyer of his acquaintance in Manila. The girl and the police understand they have gone too far. The price comes down to 10, 000. Still cheaper than a lawyer's fee'.
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[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1213109]From "Harry the Horse":
This is John's story: 'This is a little adventure that happened to me a few days ago. I suspect that I am not the first victim of such a scam and would be interested in getting feedbacks from those who have been taken in a similar manner. I book a bar girl around 4 pm from the Gecko bar in Fields avenue (paid 'bar fine', I. E. The fee for an overnight booking) and take her back to my hotel. She orders an expensive meal (she must be hungry, never mind.). Two hours later she asks to leave. I am not overjoyed by this decision and accordingly do not tip her.
At about 9 pm I am called to the reception of the hotel : the girl is there with 4 police officers and I am been accused of brutality and having insulted the philippino police (!). At the police station I find that she has a friend, an older woman, advising her. Her testimony is full of inconsistencies, not to speak of downright lies – description of the physical abuses I subjected her to, claim that she had given my money back, claim that I had told her 'fuck the police' (nice touch I must admit). I am thinking, naively, they can't possibly believe her. They do. At least they pretend to. I am given the choice : obtain her forgiveness (sic) or the lock up with appearance before a judge some times in the future. I get the message. What is the cost of her 'forgiveness'? 5, 000 pesos. I know enough of the Philippines to understand that the police is on the take. Ok. I pay and think its over. No. After talking with her 'advisor' she changes her mind, and insists on pressing charges. I am locked up in a small cell with 8 other people sprawling over the floor. It is my fault, I did not show enough 'remorse'. This is seriously getting out hand. I call a friend who is a resident here. He arrives shortly after and enters negotiations with the police. The price has gone up to 50, 000 pesos. He calls a lawyer of his acquaintance in Manila. The girl and the police understand they have gone too far. The price comes down to 10, 000. Still cheaper than a lawyer's fee'.
[url]http://www.harrythehorse.asia/?p=3766[/url][/QUOTE]Just remember there are two sides to the story, but it wouldn't surprise me either. I was just out in the bars a couple nights ago and I would have heard about this if this was in the telefilipina network. Guys, always watch it in AC when picking up girls. Always get from a bar and make conversation with the mamason. I have lived in AC for a little while and never once picked up a girl off the street. This isn't Cebu! Also, if this would have happened to me I would have refused, taken the seat in the jail and had 5 Filipino's with connections and 3 or 4 american's and their wifes there and would have been out without paying. Point is get to know some people. I have never had one problem in the Phils, never visited a police station. Also remember it's close to the Holiday's and they get funny when no money to have for the family.
Also bothering, as of three days or so ago the Australian shot in front of Garfield's hadn't been identified yet. No hotel with remains, no one looking for him, no records at Customs coming up? REmember we are in a third world country and make sure someone knows where you are. Enjoy but be smart about it, especially if alone.
Good times to be had in AC as always, beats the Prices in Manila and CEbu! Peace out and enjoy
[QUOTE=The Rooster1;1213275]Also bothering, as of three days or so ago the Australian shot in front of Garfield's hadn't been identified yet. No hotel with remains, no one looking for him, no records at Customs coming up? REmember we are in a third world country and make sure someone knows where you are. Enjoy but be smart about it, especially if alone.[/QUOTE]Paul Atkins, from Stoke-on-Trent [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054162/British-tourist-Paul-Atkins-62-gunned-point-blank-range-Philippines.html?ito=feeds-newsxml[/url]
Robb
This trip.
Favorite Fields Bar . Carousel / Love & Music (previous trip it was Genesis)
Favorite Perimeter Bar – Pony Tails (previous trips – Emotions)
Runners. None.
Its been a year since my last trip and everything is pretty much the same except inflation has now increased a lot of the standard BF by some 20% or 1800P, the top 3000P spotlight prices remains unchanged which suggest some supply / demand correction to the prices. Some new bars, some closed but on average, I would say there are more bars now than there were last year. I expected less as I did not think there were enough of us to go around. This is one thing I see about AC vs Pattaya, the girls far outnumber the punters in AC, some eventually go home hungry (even the good looking ones).
I walk into Shakey's at SM Clark and the manager recognizes me and says it's been a year since my last visit. I really expected to be forgotten after a year (after all I have not really been a frequent visitor here like some other contributors). Then I return to Swiss Chalet restaurant and the waitresses even remember my name!
Also nice to see that unused dump between Lewis and Euroasia Hotel now transformed into a garden retail center. I would have stayed at Lewis, but their reservation system had changed, I never got my prepayment request and had my reservation cancelled as a result, so I ended up at Fields Plaza Suites (FPS). None of those silly room inventory checklists, instead you get a fridge with 2x SML + 2x Coke complimentary in addition to bottled water. There is no mini-bar (not that you need one with 7-eleven nearby) so no additional charges unless of course you charge something from an ABC restaurant. I sure miss the Lewis pool, but the room comes with free transfers to the ABC pool. I did check out the ABC pool along my Perimeter walks and is probably the coolest pool in AC, but being flanked by rooms on every side meant a sun tan was only ever possible for a short time around noon.
The Dollhouse is still closed but oddly Crystal Palace seems to have nearly twice as many girls now. Promoters are still out there trying to pull you in, girls are still dancing on stages scantily clad. The bustling street makes any raid or recent homicide seem like a very distant memory.
The stage in Carousel was turning everyday I was there. Some of you might remember Lulu (from my previouse posts) and her good friend Jocelyn is still there. Jocelyn is less attractive but loads more fun with that stud on her tongue (despite her Richard 'Jaws' Kiel teeth). She was BF 3 out of the 4 days I was there, Lulu #211 who I think is a knock out has no takers. Seems like seasoned repeat customers know who the good performers are at Carousel. There is nothing wrong with Lulu of course, it's just that AC has so many bars and girls, even hotties have to work extra hard. It soon becomes apparent that even with my 4 days, I cannot accomplish having all the girls I like.
Pic of Lulu & Jocelyn (courtesy Blueseoul)
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From report.
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I spot a hot girl I had not previously seen, she catches me looking too, but I want to check out the rest of the bars before I return. When I return for her, she is in the changing room but I never see her come out again although I wait for several changes of girls. By then Jocelyn has been BF. But I still have trouble picking between 2 more hotties I see and the country music is starting to annoy me. I finally settle on Medi who seems to have a nicer ass. If I stay around any longer the country music will drive me to cut my own wrist. She only buys a standard LD, she has a baby but still agrees to stay till 10AM (which she does). I BF her P1800 and ask her what she wants to do. She wants to go shopping to I happily buy her a Spongebob pillow and some panties. She said she doesn't like T-back (G-strings) but I buy it for her anyway and she tries it for the first time and decides she is now a T-back girl. She said she saw me and was hoping I would pick her. I told her I would return to the bar and would pick someone else next time and she was ok with that.
On the way back, I passed by my stalker from previous trips. She calls me her boyfriend. I had bought a SIM load to contact her maybe on my last day but now I will not need to as she is now pregnant (and it is not mine). As she had some guy with her, I did no more than glance at her and she did the same.
Last year I had planned to contact her on my last day (otherwise I would end up with her on my entire trip) but on day 3 of my 5 day trip, I walked into Skytrax and I was busted. She came out of the dark and jumped me. She was BF by some Korean so she went to do a runner and ditch her customer for me. So there you go, sometimes girls do runners on other guys for you. I only saw her that one night, she was pissed off at me for not wanting me to get her pregnant. Finally she is pregnant by some other guy.
My BF from Carousel Medi recognizes her and says she is married to some Chinese or Korean guy but not the white guy she was with. I do not speculate further, I only wish her the best and hope that the father of the child does not abandon it like so many others I have seen in the PI.
Day 2.
The next day I returned for the first hot girl but she is not there, I go to Love and Music to check out a girl I saw before but she is not there. I have a free drink to redeem from Love & Music worth 95p (which goes towards tips). Unlike many other places, Love and Music does not have semi-naked girls dancing which I find more alluring, I also prefer the music here to Carousel. The supervisor (this place does not really have a mamasan) helps me find girls with tongue studs. I really wanted a cute skinny girl Mai, but she has already been BF by Koreans. She points out another slim hottie with white shorts on and tells me, she too has a tongue stud. She makes it at the top of my list, an older girl (30years) , her name is Ida sits next to me and we chat, she is nice and has a body that would put many others to shame. She also makes my list. Just then a girl with quite a nice face and body walks by. I just eye her. Not long after she sits nearby and the supervisor also tells me she too has a tongue stud. I pick her, Rhona and I find out she likes horror movies, so I buy a DVD of Grudge and take it back to DVD equipped in my room at FPS. The next morning, I also gave her a P500 dress she likes.
Day 3.
If not for the missing BJ in the morning Rhona would have been perfect. Today I check out the perimeter bars. Only Pony Tails stand out. As soon as I walk in I spot a girl with quite a nice face and slim body. After scoping the place for a while and see no one better I beckon her to come over. Her name is Christina. Before I BF here I see yet another really hot girl with the best body I have seen so far, waitress tells me her name is Jane. I will BF Christina ST now and will be back for Jane tomorrow. Christina is happy to go out with me but will only meet me at my hotel. A strange request, I figure there is probably a jealous boyfriend around or some other similar reason. I agree and take a casual walk back tp FPS and find her waiting there for me. She performs as expected and leaves.
That night I went back to Carousel but do not see the girl I see from the first night. I move along to Love and Music to look for Mai from the night before where she was snapped up by the Koreans and there she is. I buy her an LD, the supervisor remembers my liking for tongue studs and informs me that Mai too has a tongue stud. She is now skinnier than I remember but the tongue stud really sealed the deal for me. This is a real bonus and I BF her for the night. We watch some TV, then Mai initiates by leading me from the living room to the bedroom. Mai turns out to be really good GFE with morning second rounds.
Day 4.
I was pretty exhausted by the time Mai left, I usually only average 2 rounds a day in paradise and yesterday I had 3 rounds, but was bent on having a go at Jane at Pony Tails. I went there and there she was. What is it with AC where all the good girls are still not BF? I put it down to, everyone's taste is different and there are just that many bars and girls and so few mongers. I would say barfinable girls exceed punters 10 to 1. Total girls maybe 30 to 1 (if you include all the waitresses, GRO's, etc, who are also available for takeout) a large percentage go home alone, maybe only their daily retainer and some LD commission as take home pay.
At Pony Tails I walk in the door and there was Jane, she remembers me from the day before and said to me that the waitress did tell her I expressed an interest. She also wants me to buy her friend an LD, her friend has a tongue stud, so I agree. She is also hungry and ask if she can order some food from the bar menu, I tell to pick whatever she wants. She decides on some French fries 75P, not the most expensive item on the menu. She agrees to go out on BF. I am pretty excited as her body is just amazing. This is the first time I considered using the trike mafia, then I remember ABC is just next door. So I mosey down to ABC and show them my FPS room card and they provide a free car for the both of us. Jane provides good GFE service but not quite to Mai's standard.
That night I bought an LD for a girl at Cambodia I considered BFing but decided that Mai would be better, had a SML at Genesis (for old times sake) where a hot girl spot me looking and worked hard gyrating her hips to get my attention. I did not buy her an LD but I did tip her. Then I finally found the first girl I saw at Carousel from my first night and I bought her a LD, by then it was my last night and I decide I should stick with Mai, so I went back to Love and Music and there was Mai, very pleased to see me. I was pretty tired by then and she still manage to milk me that night and again in the morning.
She woke up with a red eye, so I took good care of her and brought her to Mercury around the corner and got her some eye drops for red eye. She looked sad as my car arrived to take me to Manila. I fly out the next day and usually stay in Manila one night if I am flying out of NAIA. (I don't like my chances with the traffic leaving for NAIA from AC the same day). In hindsight, I regretted not taking Mai along with me to Manila as the girl I had there costs a heck of a lot more but was no better. I guess that is why we all go to AC.
Gentlemen, is there an outstanding health club / gym in the area close to where the girls are? I was wondering if AC would be a good place to stay for a few months to mix girls with weight loss plan. I am really interested in AC because people there speak English and it's possible to have conversation with some and ask some to fuck off. Otherwise I know that I can accomplish something close to this in Vietnam.
[quote=poopbunny; 1213350]favorite fields bar. carousel / love & music (previous trip it was genesis)
favorite perimeter bar – pony tails (previous trips – emotions)
the dollhouse is still closed but oddly crystal palace seems to have nearly twice as many girls now.
one thing i see about ac vs pattaya, the girls far outnumber the punters in ac, some eventually go home hungry (even the good looking ones).[/quote]great report pb. we need more informative well written reports like this on the forum. i have never been to love & music. i will make a point of checking it out when i visit ac in 3 months. from what i hear and your report confirms, there are some pretty girls there. it is interesting that some of the dollhouse girls have moved over to cp.
[quote=poopbunny;1213350]i would have stayed at lewis, but their reservation system had changed, i never got my prepayment request and had my reservation cancelled as a result i did check out the abc pool along my perimeter walks and is probably the coolest pool in ac, but being flanked by rooms on every side meant a sun tan was only ever possible for a short time around noon.[/quote]i had the same problem with the lewis grand reservation system. i waited 3 weeks from the time i made my reservation and still did not receive a confirmation email. i went back to their website and initiated a "live chat" with one of their representatives. my reservation was found. i supplied them with cc information and received hotel reservation confirmation the next day. i really like the lewis grand pool. the abc pool has no sun which is a big negative. on the other hand, abc has a better location and i for one like their bordello decor.
[quote=poopbunny;1213350]i regretted not taking mai along with me to manila as the girl i had there costs a heck of a lot more but was no better.[/quote]philosphically i disagree with you on this point. manila has a real good nightlife / bar scene with some very attractive sexy girls and even though it will cost more, when i am in manila, i want to be with manila girls. sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but i like the variety. if i met a girl like mai in ac that i really liked and had a good vibe with; i would not hesitate taking her for a few days to a beautiful beach in palawan. that would be fantastic.
[QUOTE=Henryv;1213151]Leaving for AC today. I will make it a point to stop in Gecko's, look around and then say to the mamason: "oh, is this the bar where the girl called the police on a customer? Sorry, I must leave." Hope others will do the same.[/QUOTE]It would be good to hear from some one who is in AC and asks about this.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1213325]Paul Atkins, from Stoke-on-Trent.
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Robb[/QUOTE]Thanks Robb, Appreciate the info.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1213109]From "Harry the Horse":
This is John's story: 'This is a little adventure that happened to me a few days ago. I suspect that I am not the first victim of such a scam and would be interested in getting feedbacks from those who have been taken in a similar manner. I book a bar girl around 4 pm from the Gecko bar in Fields avenue (paid 'bar fine', I. E. The fee for an overnight booking) and take her back to my hotel. She orders an expensive meal (she must be hungry, never mind.). Two hours later she asks to leave. I am not overjoyed by this decision and accordingly do not tip her.
At about 9 pm I am called to the reception of the hotel : the girl is there with 4 police officers and I am been accused of brutality and having insulted the philippino police (!).
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I have been in Gecko's in the past and have taken a few girls from there. Overall I've had good experiences there. In fact I was just in AC last week and was in Gecko's a couple of days for drinks but fortunately did not take a girl from there this time. I won't even go back in there for a drink. There should be a TOTAL BOYCOTT on bars where this type of thing takes place. I think that's the best way to fight this. Of course maybe the patron was rude and there are two sides to the story. But, short of physical abuse, it's a sad story the girl brought police into this. Especially if she wanted to leave early.
Spread the word and BOYCOTT!
Can anyone recommend any of the massage parlours near Fields?
Do any of them have extra services for in-calls?