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[QUOTE=Keppana; 1511753]Can be. I have never calculated this way, never will.
-Kepp[/QUOTE]I don't even know if you have a wife or GF. I don't think we ever discussed it. I have a GF (not in Germany) and she is quite expensive on a per fuck basis, so sex is definitely not the main benefit. If we should split up, I am not thinking of ever getting a replacement (unless she is gorgeous young and rich. Most unlikely).
When considering a wife or GF, it is sensible to weigh up the pros and cons on a cold hard calculated basis. My ex wife came with very few benefits and the occasional free sex was boring (she wasn't even clean). Sure, free sex with her is not likely to be sufficient in the pros column. So there are other factors to consider. Women often come with a lot of hassles. Can be a lot easier to not have wife or GF and simply outsource the sex part. Even for those with a wife or GF, they are still outsourcing the sex part, to a significant extent. LOL
Having an FKK girl as a GF (even part time) can be a lot of fun and get your sex cheaper or free, but you need to be a very non-jealous type, so that the girl fucking other guys doesn't bother you. Eventually she found another customer who made a better BF than me (he was rich and trustworthy).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1511980]I don't even know if you have a wife or GF. I don't think we ever discussed it.[/QUOTE]Neither at the moment, I am free as the sky's bird :cool:
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1511980]Even for those with a wife or GF, they are still outsourcing the sex part, to a significant extent. LOL[/QUOTE]Everyone needs a change once in a while, no matter how hot the missus might be.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1511980]Having an FKK girl as a GF (even part time) can be a lot of fun and get your sex cheaper or free, but you need to be a very non-jealous type, so that the girl fucking other guys doesn't bother you.[/QUOTE]A girl fucking other guys doesn't bother me when she is a hooker and thus I would not consider her as a girlfriend. A hooker is a hooker. If I had a real life girlfriend and found out she is fucking around I would be pissed off for sure. I have never dated FKK girls outside of the clubs. I will just stick to the occasional club visits, that's fine for me. Sometimes I find nice GFE in these clubs, namely Great Fucking Experiences, LOL.
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Number of sex partners
This issue of playboy said on the average, American has 7 sex partners each in life time. I don't know if this number means wifes and GFs only? Include one Night stand (ONS)? Include prostitutes or not? FKK goers will have a much larger numbers of sex partners than 7. Maybe this statistics did not include ONS and prostitutes? Is there any difference to have sex with GF or Prostitutes you feel? To me, having sex with some FKK girls with GFE is as good as having sex with a normal girl, since FKK girls are more experienced (they do DARTY, Deep BBJ, etc) , while normal GF may not. Any opinions? This issue of playboy also said on the average, man can last 5-10 minutes, true? We usually can do 30 to 60 minutes, right?
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1511980]I don't even know if you have a wife or GF. I don't think we ever discussed it. I have a GF (not in Germany) and she is quite expensive on a per fuck basis, so sex is definitely not the main benefit. If we should split up, I am not thinking of ever getting a replacement (unless she is gorgeous young and rich. Most unlikely).
When considering a wife or GF, it is sensible to weigh up the pros and cons on a cold hard calculated basis. My ex wife came with very few benefits and the occasional free sex was boring (she wasn't even clean). Sure, free sex with her is not likely to be sufficient in the pros column. So there are other factors to consider. Women often come with a lot of hassles. Can be a lot easier to not have wife or GF and simply outsource the sex part. Even for those with a wife or GF, they are still outsourcing the sex part, to a significant extent. LOL.
Having an FKK girl as a GF (even part time) can be a lot of fun and get your sex cheaper or free, but you need to be a very non-jealous type, so that the girl fucking other guys doesn't bother you. Eventually she found another customer who made a better BF than me (he was rich and trustworthy).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=All For Bb;1512291]This issue of playboy said on the average, American has 7 sex partners each in life time. I don't know if this number means wifes and GFs only?[/QUOTE]I think this includes everything. Ha Ha! I would not worry about these partner numbers. The distribution is no doubt highly skewed with many puritanical American types having had zero to 1 partners, and FKK attenders having lost count long ago. I think, how often you get a nice sex session is much more important (ignoring all the boring fucks). Length of time that can last doesn't matter as in some circumstances the very sensitive guys can get many pops into the same time that I only get one.
However if an FKK girl is only giving a session until the guy pops, then 5-10 mins would be short-changed in my mind. I avoid girls that habitually return from sessions after 10 to 15 mins. I have seen plenty of these girls operating at Oase, and know who they are. At Sharks, I am not so aware who are the 15 min specialists, as I don't tend to sit near the pay lockers enough. Perhaps Sharks girls are more likely to give a full 30 mins. I think I did notice that the young Turkish customer types seem to return from the room much more rapidly than the average.
To measure our levels of sexual addiction, we could look at what period of time we can go for without sex. How frustrated are we after 1 month of no sex? Would we fly to Germany specially for sex? I imagine that USA is not the best place for plentiful sex, as its very "sinful" (according to certain bible bashers).
It was amusing to see the American bible bashers talking about the "sin" and trying to have influence on a nudie and sex go-go bar street in Bangkok not that long ago. The girls working, needed the money badly to support their families (often single parents).
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30min roomtime doesn't mean 30min of sex.
HB
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Sharks weekend
I am new in the Forum and want to add some informations for all.
I was at the Sharks 2 weeks ago first and there was a Christmas Party. From Friday to Sunday it was Party Nights and as you know there were some shows and Pornstars.
It was really good shows.
First I want to tell something about transport to the club. I was at the Frankfurt Airport and there is a really simple way to go to Darmstad. There is a special bus and with it you can reach to Darmstad Hbf (main station) in nearly 20 min and it costs 7. 75€. And from Hbf, it is a so short way with taxi to the Sharks.
Entrence fee is 65€ for the club and for ladies 50€ for 30 min session.
When I entered the club, it was nearly 18pm and there were not so much customers. Most of the ladies are waiting at the bar area and also usually they come to you to offer something special!
Outside of the club it is writtten that "Biggest FKK" and I can say it was really true, I tried most of the FKK clubs in a lot of cities, for example Artemis, Goldentime, Funpalast, Globe etc, but I can say easily yes it was really huge. First floor there is a bar area and food court, and also a lot of seats for your comfort stay. And upstairs there is a wellness area with swimming pool, whirpool etc. It was totally clean and nice place.
The ladies in the club were not wonderful but you can find a good one for yourself of course. I tried a brunette good looking lady from Albania, she was really has a good face and sexy body! We went to upstairs, room was clean and not small.
After the session I tried the food, also I can say it was tasteful for FKK clubs. The entrence fee includes all non alcoholic drinks of course and for example beer costs 6€.
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Humping The Numbers
[QUOTE=All For Bb;1512291]This issue of playboy said on the average, American has 7 sex partners each in life time. FKK goers will have a much larger numbers of sex partners than 7. Is there any difference to have sex with GF or Prostitutes you feel?[/QUOTE]Seven? Hell, I've literally slam fucked that many pretty Latinas in a single day LOL (it's all a numbers game in Costa Rica me boys!). Speaking of Costa Rica, many years ago a Costa Rica lover explained to me the difference between fucking your girlfriend versus fucking your tute. You see, you enjoy your girlfriend. But, you use a tute! Now, not everybody agrees with this, but I do. Not in a mean-spirited sense or anything like that, but as is pointed out over and over and over again by mongers who have their heads on straight, this is all about fantasy. And in this way, you are "using" the tute to help you fulfill those fantasies, whether it's to make "love" to her like you would a "real" girlfriend. Or, fuck her in the butt and nut in her face like you would to a top-notch porno puta. Whatever your fantasy, plain and simple you're using that tute to fulfill it. And this holds true even if you like the GFE! That's because all you're doing is using the tute to fulfill the role of the girlfriend you don't have LOL! And there it is. That's the difference between humping a girlfriend versus a tute. You enjoy the body of the former, and you "use" the body of the latter to sate your unfulfilled and / or never ending sexual fantasies. Whatever those may be.
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Hmm. Bible bashes are not that concerned about sins Syzy, bible thumpers might.
Seriously, the politicians who hide behind bible to moralize and push their puritanical agenda are usually the ones caught with pants around ankles.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1512369.
To measure our levels of sexual addiction, we could look at what period of time we can go for without sex. How frustrated are we after 1 month of no sex? Would we fly to Germany specially for sex? I imagine that USA is not the best place for plentiful sex, as its very "sinful" (according to certain bible bashers).
It was amusing to see the American bible bashers talking about the "sin" and trying to have influence on a nudie and sex go-go bar street in Bangkok not that long ago. The girls working, needed the money badly to support their families (often single parents).[/QUOTE]
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What do the porn stars do at these parties? I have never attended a party and curious. Do they put on live sex shows? Are the female porn stars available for room sessions with you, and if so are the prices still the normal rates or do you have to pay more for porn stars?
[QUOTE=Accidenti; 1512449]I am new in the Forum and want to add some informations for all.
I was at the Sharks 2 weeks ago first and there was a Christmas Party. From Friday to Sunday it was Party Nights and as you know there were some shows and Pornstars.
It was really good shows.
First I want to tell something about transport to the club. I was at the Frankfurt Airport and there is a really simple way to go to Darmstad. There is a special bus and with it you can reach to Darmstad Hbf (main station) in nearly 20 min and it costs 7. 75€. And from Hbf, it is a so short way with taxi to the Sharks.
Entrence fee is 65€ for the club and for ladies 50€ for 30 min session..[/QUOTE]
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Numbers and differences
Yes, I usually did 4-13 in visiting one club in one day. 4 was the lowest. 13 is my record in recent visit to Sharks on Sunday, Dec 13. (1) Dena. 22, 168cm, hug, very good; (2) Cosmina. 22, 168cm. 48kg, rom, light skin, slim, good face, figure, beautiful feet, excellent; (3) Monica. 22, 158cm, sweet; (4) Maraya, Modav. 22, 170cm; excellent; (5) Jessica, Modav. 22, 175, GFE; (6) Kaya Modav. 23, 175cm, good face, ok sex; (7) Salena. 22, 168cm, rom, light skin, good body, GFE; (8) Roxana. 22, 172cm, beautiful, GFE; (9) Lena. 23 Rom. 167 cm, light skin, GFE, good figure and feet, (10) Leona, Madav. 170 cm. 20 (1993) , GFE; (11) Miya, Rom. 163 cm. 22, good figure, ok sex, she did not open leg widely, no kiss on feet; (12) Olivier. 22 (1991) .168cm, very good figure, light skin, similar to Miya, ok sex, she did not open her leg widely, no kiss on feet; (13) Michila, Mod. 27, 165cm, light skin, deep bbj, excellent sex. That's my FKK record, beat my earlier record long time ago in Atlantics in 2006 (11 for the visit) and Symya last December in 2012 (11) , so happy and memorable.
Seven in US is unbelievable, I still think it might be just for girl friend numbers in lifetime, not include tutes. Maybe some American never have sex with tutes.
About differences, you are very right, the feeling of entering tutes pussy are almost the same as entering GF's pussy. Only difference I can say are I entering some GF (not all) without raincoat (of course, that feel better) , and I swallow GF pussy love juice (pussy fluid) , but spill out tutes pussy fluid (they don't have much pussy juice anyway) and use raincoat with tutes.
[QUOTE=The Cane;1512479]Seven? Hell, I've literally slam fucked that many pretty Latinas in a single day LOL (it's all a numbers game in Costa Rica me boys!). Speaking of Costa Rica, many years ago a Costa Rica lover explained to me the difference between fucking your girlfriend versus fucking your tute. You see, you enjoy your girlfriend. But, you use a tute! Now, not everybody agrees with this, but I do. Not in a mean-spirited sense or anything like that, but as is pointed out over and over and over again by mongers who have their heads on straight, this is all about fantasy. And in this way, you are "using" the tute to help you fulfill those fantasies, whether it's to make "love" to her like you would a "real" girlfriend. Or, fuck her in the butt and nut in her face like you would to a top-notch porno puta. Whatever your fantasy, plain and simple you're using that tute to fulfill it. And this holds true even if you like the GFE! That's because all you're doing is using the tute to fulfill the role of the girlfriend you don't have LOL! And there it is. That's the difference between humping a girlfriend versus a tute. You enjoy the body of the former, and you "use" the body of the latter to sate your unfulfilled and / or never ending sexual fantasies. Whatever those may be.[/QUOTE]
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Feelings and numbers
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1512369]I think this includes everything. Ha Ha! I would not worry about these partner numbers. The distribution is no doubt highly skewed with many puritanical American types having had zero to 1 partners, and FKK attenders having lost count long ago. I think, how often you get a nice sex session is much more important (ignoring all the boring fucks). Length of time that can last doesn't matter as in some circumstances the very sensitive guys can get many pops into the same time that I only get one.[/QUOTE]You are right, having a nice sex session is much more important! The feeling of entering GF's vagina or tutes' vagina should be about the same, but raincoat and juice swallowing. Pussy is pussy, vagina is vagina, no matter GF's or Tutes'. If indeed includes everything in the sex partners, we are so lucky than those Americans. I still have my count. I have had 2771 sex partners so far. however, most of them in FKK or tutes in other countries. unfortunately, only 11 are GF type or ONS type normal girls.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1512583]What do the porn stars do at these parties? I have never attended a party and curious. Do they put on live sex shows? Are the female porn stars available for room sessions with you, and if so are the prices still the normal rates or do you have to pay more for porn stars?[/QUOTE]Live sex shows are boring IMHO. Of no interest whatsoever. Its low quality porn, usually the girl has massive sillies that are ugly to me. Its too scripted. Parties are well worth avoiding, in general. The day before a party can be excellent, because tends to have a good girl line-up but not too many men.
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[QUOTE=Keppana; 1512048]A girl fucking other guys doesn't bother me when she is a hooker and thus I would not consider her as a girlfriend. A hooker is a hooker. If I had a real life girlfriend and found out she is fucking around I would be pissed off for sure. I have never dated FKK girls outside of the clubs. I will just stick to the occasional club visits, that's fine for me. Sometimes I find nice GFE in these clubs, namely Great Fucking Experiences, LOL.
-Kepp[/QUOTE]FKK is just a job. In reality, hookers can be normal people with an unusual profession. Its possible that after many, GFEs, the girl can become a real GF (even if not that common). I have dated or fucked several FKK girls outside the FKK club but only one became a GF, a few years back.
I cut the rest of this post out, as I see I am in the wrong thread.
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It was the second time ever that I visited an FKK club and I have to say that I had a very good time in Sharks last Friday.
Due to a nasty break up with my now ex-girlfriend, I've been put off by women in general, but eventually nature takes over and I was horny as hell, hehe.
Many sexy and fully naked girls were present, and I could feel an erection starting to build by just walking around the place and getting the flirtatious looks from the girls!
After arriving and generally checking out the complete premise, I started off by sitting down towards the back near the sauna. Within a few minutes a Romanian girl named Coco sat next to me and, her long legs and sexy eyes got the better of me, so we went off for a cave. Sex was good, nice BJ and good kissing, and due my overall state of enormous hornyness (is that a word?) I finished in about 10 minutes time.
After taking a good 45 minutes break, I finally saw a sexy blond Polish girl walk in the area where I was sitting, again near the sauna. She has big (silicone) breasts, was wearing her hair in a tight ponytail and she was wearing sexy black stockings and black corset and had this great porn star look about her. I told her that she was making me so horny that I could fuck her right there on the sofa, and to my surprise she agreed. She quickly left to gather her purse, but when she came back she suggested to move to the Kino area instead. That was also fine with me, and we had a relatively short but very hot session there. I think her name was Natasha, but I'm not sure.
Finally, having lowered my extreme hornyness to a somewhat normal level, I was sitting upstairs for about 5 minutes on one of those garden beds when a Romanian girl came over and sat on top of me, I think her name is Leona. I told her that she was very sexy (and she definitely was; long dark hair, beautiful long legs, smooth skin, gorgeous B cup breasts!) but that I needed a little break. However, she kept on insisting and and after she started to grab my dick (which was getting hard again) I uttered the stupid words "ok, let's go." This session turned out to be very mediocre, she kept on having her hands near her pussy to prevent me from penetrating her too deeply (ok, Little Harry is actually bigger than the name suggests) but additionally her attitude was very cold and mechanical. I asked her to be (or at least act) a bit more horny and suggested a bit of dirty talk to help me get off, but she replied "I can't." WTF? A working girl who can't do dirty talk!? Anyway, with only a few minutes left of the 30 minutes, I finally managed to come. It's quite ironic how sometimes girls who suddenly turn totally frigged and mechanical in the room, are actually their own worst enemy because they drag the session and sex out for much longer than would be necessary. I'm not a bad looking guy: get me really horny and it can be over in as little as 5 minutes, that's easy money for her and I'm also satisfied.
So, recovering from that experience I spent some time in the sauna, at least there no risk of meeting any girls there who will persuade me to think with Little Larry's head, instead of with my normal head, hehe. Some relaxing time later I ran into that Polish SEX goddess again, so I ended the night with a very hot session, this time in a room.
After my first session with Coco, I met a nice Romanian dark haired girl (Monica) who was wearing fishnet stockings which really turn me on. I told her that I needed a break, but the whole evening her 'schedule' and my 'schedule' were exactly opposite. She approached me several times, every time just after a session, or I would watch her leave just when I was starting to get ready for action again. The only exception is when I left with the Polish girl. I didn't see her before, but she she was sitting near the stairs where you go the rooms and she saw me leave with this Polish blonde and gave me some angry stares, and when I returned she walked up to me more or less angrily 'demanding' why I didn't choose here. Pity it didn't work out as she seemed to have the hots for me, hopefully another time.
A similar problem of being on opposite 'schedules' I had with a tall German (judging by her accent) girl who was mostly sitting at the beginning of the bar, with long jetblack hair and black stockings. She was a bit too skinny for my liking, but I briefly chatted with her and she had something mischievous and dirty about her. Any info about her? She seemed like a lot of fun, but as my experience with Leona proves, sometimes looks can be deceptive.
Unfortunately I won't be able to visit over the next few weeks, but I'm definitely looking forward to going to Shark's again! Maybe in the weekend, but I'm also thinking about going on a Tuesday because I have a big lingerie fetish.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1513028]Its possible that after many, GFEs, the girl can become a real GF (even if not that common).[/QUOTE]So you mean a girl turns from a GoodFuckingExperience into a GreatFucker, LOL.
Syzy, your vision of a "girlfriend" is clearly different than mine. Let's leave it there. Happy licking and fucking! :cool: