Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2272182]Good words of advice.

For clarification, did you mean to say Twitter instead of Tinder? If you did indeed mean Tinder, are working girls aggressively offering themselves on Tinder? Having not used Tinder, how do the Brazilian working girls signal they are acompanhantes?

Twitter seems very liberal in allowing escorts to promote themselves. I think the only thing missing from escorts' Twitter accounts are specific services on offer and price.

Thanks Rovnak.[/QUOTE]I meant Twitter, yes. Thanks for picking that up.

But in fact I have met several semi-pros on Tinder. I saw the Tinder pages for many more than I met, but the ones I met were all good. A lot of them say they are only interested in a sugar daddy. Sugar baby (SD-SB) thing, but I message them (if we match) that I am not interested in banking them but am open to P4P "per encontro" and about 4 out of 5 will be up for that. 1 in 5 will say that they only want a "daddy".

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2272182]Having not used Tinder, how do the Brazilian working girls signal they are acompanhantes? .[/QUOTE]From my experience the working girl's Tinder profile will flat tell you "GP" or "sex for money. " Sometimes you'll see "sugar baby."

Lmfao. Why I love Brasil.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2272289]From my experience the working girl's Tinder profile will flat tell you "GP" or "sex for money. " Sometimes you'll see "sugar baby."[/QUOTE]

I'm actually kind of surprised Tinder allows profiles that include "sex for money". I would think such direct solicitation would cast a cloud over a supposedly legitimate dating app / site.

Note: I must state I have no experience with Tinder.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2272512]I'm actually kind of surprised Tinder allows profiles that include "sex for money". I would think such direct solicitation would cast a cloud over a supposedly legitimate dating app / site.

Note: I must state I have no experience with Tinder.[/QUOTE]I have worked my way through the SP Tinderverse several times for the under 30 age group. Once one has worked through to the point where there are no more girls near you it actually gets better. Because then each day you only see the new girls and there is a much higher percentage of P4P girls in the "daily incremental" listing. That is because the P4P profiles are often denounced and they need to add them again. In my experience I have seldom seen "sex for dinheiro", but I have seen many "Sugar baby", "SB". Occasionally I see "GP", or " , and a lot of time you see the subtler "gosto de homens mais velho" (I like older men) and 'adoro mimos" (I love to be pampered). These latter 2 are tricky as they are not saying explicitly that that are working, so you have to sort of dance your way to the subject or risk insulting them. I usually ask if they are into "encontros casuais" (casual meetings) and some will reply "sou acompanhante" and I say "eu topo" (cool).

In the ambiguous cases I usually look to see if they are including their instagram or not. If they are not including their instagram that is an indicator that they are trying to remain private and are more likely to be working than not.

I just returned from the USA and what a difference between the Tinder profiles there and in Brasil. The USA women, at least the hot looking ones were almost ALL focused on finding men who would spoil them. Most appeared to be self important, materialistic divas. And so many claimed to be owners of their own business or some elite job. The materialism just oozes off of their profiles. The Brasil women on the other hand write "sou simples" (I am simple), looking for honest man, not interested in your car, etc. Different worlds.

Found this one on: [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Suzuki, she lives five minutes from me.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2271793]Yes, I agree with the others. Very nice report! However, I do take issue with this one piece that you wrote in that there is really not much of anything about the clinica experience that is like a German FKK, or Brazilian termas for that matter. For anybody who has been to neither, I would not want them to be misled. In my view, a clinica is much more like the traditional brothel where the girls are paraded out in front of you, you pick one, and then you go fuck. This is in no way like the FKK (or termas) experience, which I much prefer over the clinica. Just to be clear so that guys don't get the wrong idea. Maybe a clinica is closer to an FKK than a partyreff, but both types of set-ups are really not very close to the FKK model at all. Otherwise, outstanding work![/QUOTE]To me, the meaningful differences between partytreff and FKK are as follows:

- Flat rate vs. Per-session.

- Public vs. Private rooms.

I know there's also this social aspect of hanging out with the girls getting to know them, but as I don't speak neither Brazilian nor any of the European languages the girls in Germany would speak, nor, to be frankly, seek socialization in such environments (or in general), these differences are largely lost on me.

What makes FKK special to you?

[QUOTE=FRobertson;2272613]To me, the meaningful differences between partytreff and FKK are as follows:

- Flat rate vs. Per-session.

- Public vs. Private rooms.

I know there's also this social aspect of hanging out with the girls getting to know them, but as I don't speak neither Brazilian nor any of the European languages the girls in Germany would speak, nor, to be frankly, seek socialization in such environments (or in general), these differences are largely lost on me.

What makes FKK special to you?[/QUOTE]Before you guys get too into this topic it should be restated that there are neither FKKs nor Termas in Sao Paulo and such a discussion in this forum may confuse visitors. Probably should move it.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2272660]Before you guys get too into this topic it should be restated that there are neither FKKs nor Termas in Sao Paulo and such a discussion in this forum may confuse visitors. Probably should move it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I see you are discussing clinicas not termas. My bad. Carry on.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2272575]Found this one on: [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Suzuki, she lives five minutes from me.[/QUOTE]Never been a Suzuki fan, but my, oh my, would I love to ride this one.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2272660]Before you guys get too into this topic it should be restated that there are neither FKKs nor Termas in Sao Paulo and such a discussion in this forum may confuse visitors. Probably should move it.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and that's why you saw no response to his question from me (and won't).

Sounds FR like you value in-room time only — so FKK vs Clinica vs Boate vs Brothel will be all the same to you. Others value total experience — that includes both in room and not in room time. And so here the FKK and Boate scene wins. The FKK even more so with massage and sauna and fully naked girls on parade at all times. Nonetheless the SP Boate is good for overall experience. I generally like to enjoy the whole thing so it's not unusual for my in-room time to be half the total time in an FKK or Boate. Most recently in SP and Campinas:

Scandalo — 3. 5 hrs clock time. 1 HR in room time.

Fazendinha — 5 hrs clock time. 2 hrs in room time.

And I had an absolute blast when not in the room. For me it is an important part of the experience. I think HarvestBoi is cut from this same cloth. For you and others, not so much.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;2272531]I have worked my way through the SP Tinderverse several times for the under 30 age group. Once one has worked through to the point where there are no more girls near you it actually gets better. Because then each day you only see the new girls and there is a much higher percentage of P4P girls in the "daily incremental" listing. That is because the P4P profiles are often denounced and they need to add them again. In my experience I have seldom seen "sex for dinheiro", but I have seen many "Sugar baby", "SB". Occasionally I see "GP", or " , and a lot of time you see the subtler "gosto de homens mais velho" (I like older men) and 'adoro mimos" (I love to be pampered). These latter 2 are tricky as they are not saying explicitly that that are working, so you have to sort of dance your way to the subject or risk insulting them. I usually ask if they are into "encontros casuais" (casual meetings) and some will reply "sou acompanhante" and I say "eu topo" (cool).

In the ambiguous cases I usually look to see if they are including their instagram or not. If they are not including their instagram that is an indicator that they are trying to remain private and are more likely to be working than not.

I just returned from the USA and what a difference between the Tinder profiles there and in Brasil. The USA women, at least the hot looking ones were almost ALL focused on finding men who would spoil them. Most appeared to be self important, materialistic divas. And so many claimed to be owners of their own business or some elite job. The materialism just oozes off of their profiles. The Brasil women on the other hand write "sou simples" (I am simple), looking for honest man, not interested in your car, etc. Different worlds.[/QUOTE]When I was in Brazil in 2016, I found out too late that Tinder worked there.

Looking through Tinder in Los Angeles is irritating to say the least. If these women were such great catches then they wouldn't be single. It's not just materialism that oozes, it's also narcissism.

I've lost count chick abroad some yacht, in the seat of expensive car or hanging out in some remote area with lavish furnishings. They will take any picture of themselves or have other people take them, all they need is theme music.

One of my specific goals upon returning to Brazil in the near future is to hit Tinder hard, really hard.

[QUOTE=FRobertson;2272613]To me, the meaningful differences between partytreff and FKK are as follows:

- Flat rate vs. Per-session.

- Public vs. Private rooms.

I know there's also this social aspect of hanging out with the girls getting to know them, but as I don't speak neither Brazilian nor any of the European languages the girls in Germany would speak, nor, to be frankly, seek socialization in such environments (or in general), these differences are largely lost on me.

What makes FKK special to you?[/QUOTE]I dunno maybe it's different now as I do read the various FKK threads over on the Germany forum. But most of the providers I was with (2007) spoke English. The only one that didn't was a Bulgarian woman I did twice, despite not being able to communicate.

There was a Bulgarian that spoke English but she was pushy.

In fact none of the chicks I banged in Brazil spoke English. Of course a few higher priced escorts do but as I explained in my trip report buried somewhere on here that I had money problems as soon as I landed and couldn't partake.

I won't say communication is overrated because that is precisely the reason I am moving away from P4 P to an LTR. But does it really matter much of both parties no while your there? I'm not fanatical about getting my dick sucked so I don't care if it's covered or not.

I generally K. I. S. S when it comes to sex paid for or not.

[QUOTE=DJFourMoney;2272994]When I was in Brazil in 2016, I found out too late that Tinder worked there.

Looking through Tinder in Los Angeles is irritating to say the least. If these women were such great catches then they wouldn't be single. It's not just materialism that oozes, it's also narcissism.

I've lost count chick abroad some yacht, in the seat of expensive car or hanging out in some remote area with lavish furnishings. They will take any picture of themselves or have other people take them, all they need is theme music.

One of my specific goals upon returning to Brazil in the near future is to hit Tinder hard, really hard.[/QUOTE]Tinder in Brasil is a waste of time. For every 10 chicks you talk to only two will meet you in person. Of the two who meet you in person, one will fuck. This has been my experience over the past almost three years.