East China - Shanghai

I am in Shanghai and lining up all the SNG girls I want to see. I also have some non SNG faves but that's another report.

Linda is beautiful! She has a shape that knocks you out. Be cups that I just want to see again. We took a shower together headed into the bed BJ, ball licks and DATY. , Definately of the menu. Her BJ was really erotic. Looking at me as she did it Loved it, she is the new girl so they had a 999 RMB deal for an hour which I did. She didn't seem interested in kissing or DFK so I did t force it. We did cowgirl, mish and I finished with her riding me cowgirl. Instead of getting off, She let me lay there and glow with little brother inside her. She squeezed her vaginal muscles together with me still spent but inside her. I like this and enjoyed it. So many girls just want to hop off when done, It was a little more GFE But could be improved YMMV. She took a quick shower and sat with me We talked and I played with her body anywhere as I recharged. I had a good time. It is one I would definitely repeat even at the full price.

I finished too quick on the first round so I wanted to go for round 2 and she said only one round. I didn't know if this was the 999 deal or what. She said she would text SNG for an answer as she was new. I told her never mind. I wasn't really sure I was good for it anyway with just arriving and the jet lag. I was really tired and didn't care enough to pursue.

I reached out to Steven at SNG. He said he would clear this up. I would clarify with the hotline for two pops before the reservation but it wouldn't stop me from seeing her again. She is Definitely as pretty as Snow in a spinner kind of way. Snow is a beautiful full woman but not petite. (not fat just regular size) Linda is a spinner type which I adore.

Body 8. 5.

Face 9.

English 0-2, translator or signals work fine.

Session 7. 5. 8. 5 if the 2 pop issue had not come up.

WIR? - hopefully before I leave Shanghai! So many girls so little time!

I also told her to add a couple pics to show what a nice body she has. The pics are a little too conservative.

She has it. She should show it off!

Haven't posted in some time.

I found a massage parlour near Zhaojiabang road the other night, was a bit bored so I went in. (I can't be more forthcoming with the exact address, it was dark and I'm useless without my glasses).

Was greeted and taken into a room upstairs. Waited for a bit and this one girl came in. She looked decent maybe my age (mid 20's). I didn't get any lineup and I believe no one was really there as it was so late.

Took a shower and laid down on the bed after prep, and me squirming around trying to fit on a bed too short for me. (Interestingly it was just a normal bed with a hole cut in for my face, wasn't sure was to make of it.) Started off with a fairly decent massage then a back rub with hot towels. Then she started locking me all over. I never had this before so I was just confused and decided to go along with it.

She propped me up on my knees and cleaned me up down below and started locking there too. Honestly never had that done to me before and I'm not really a fan of it. Still went along and wanted to see what was next. Flipped me around and got the lube ready and went to town on my sausage. Pretty good HJ and about 20 minutes in I finally let it out. Another bath and off I was.

Didn't ask her name, wasn't too interested. If I do find the place again I'll probably go back. (Was near some high rise flats and has a neon sign in red saying MASSAGE). Damage - 210rmb.

Last night I went to one of the bard near jing an temple, obvious wg bar but I never went into one. One girl called me in for happy hour and I felt like having a beer. She chatted me up a bit and I bought her a drink. Only saw Chinese girls there. Played pool for a bit with her friend then I got a call and had to leave urgently.

I don't think I've seen these bars mentioned on the forum, just Manhattan and Judy etc. Is there any reason why.

Is the Shanghai thread becoming a location for chit chat: "went to a massage parlor, don't remember where, girl was ok. After the flip blah, blah, I may go back" And "Shanghai sucks so bad, why bother" Sam, you are too kind to them. My ignore list is starting to grow.

I have been surfing QQ and Wechat and came across several sauna and MP chat groups. If you don't have these two apps on your phone, might be a good idea to download them, especially QQ. Communication is strictly in Chinese (they don't uderstand a lick of English) but phone translations does wonders. Here are some of the things I observed with these groups.

1. 10%-15% discount when you make reservations through the app.
2. Photos of girls in some cases (most don't show faces).
3. Different level of services each girl provide.
4. don't' expect or ask for reviews like you see here in ISG.
5. Groups can get pretty big like up to a few hundred people.

Here are just a couple of examples of these chat groups.

Club 898. HongKou District. Sauna.
LiZhuang Spa. Putuo District. MP.
Ty Spa. JingAn District. MP.

Note: These are NOT the oft discussed QQ / Wechat girls. These are establishments with anywhere from 6 to 50 girls Massage Parlors and Saunas. I have personally tried 1 MP and 1 sauna from these groups, so far so good. However I read and speak the language. Send me a PM if you want the QQ / Wechat numbers for these places.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1792119]Is the Shanghai thread becoming a location for chit chat: "went to a massage parlor, don't remember where, girl was ok. After the flip blah, blah, I may go back" And "Shanghai sucks so bad, why bother" Sam, you are too kind to them. My ignore list is starting to grow.[/QUOTE]On one hand I do agree with you, on the other I just don't visit here often and realistically we do keep talking about the same places.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1792119]Is the Shanghai thread becoming a location for chit chat: "went to a massage parlor, don't remember where, girl was ok. After the flip blah, blah, I may go back" And "Shanghai sucks so bad, why bother" Sam, you are too kind to them. My ignore list is starting to grow.[/QUOTE]Your comment about this being a location for chit-chat makes no sense to me. This is a discussion forum. Another word in the english language for discussion is chit-chat. I think as long as one person is education by a thread (be it a repeat topic or not) then the board has accomplished its goal. I guess if you don't like certain topics then just tune them out. Like in life for me when there is someone I can't stand, I tune them out. Like you.

The stated goal of ISG is for men to share information about finding women. Your comments in the past were racist and derogatory of the Chinese people and culture. We called you on it and you crawled back under your rock for a while. Go away. You and the other guy post nothing that helps men find women for sex.

Chit Chat.

Like many, I recall when this board had a lot of specific info that was a huge help to me and others who were new to China. Over the last few years people have noticed that when there is too much detail shared, those venues seem to get closed by Uncle LEO. Within the last 2 years it was suggested to be a little more general on the public side to protect the hobby and the providers we so enjoy. In that spirit, I offer the following field reports.

Buddha.

Been there a couple times this trip. Got #18, a very sweet girl who seems to really enjoy her work. Thin, a-cups, early 20's. Shower then mediocre back massage. Then milking position before the flip. She definitely knows how to use her hands and mouth to their best to relieve the lower stresses. A cups got a good licking and wandering hands found a very wet pair of lips to massage but no entry allowed. Damage 268 RMB.

AnYuan.

Sad report by others confirmed here. Glass doors are gone, metal roll doors are down, curtains blowing in the wind. All 5 places the same.

Pudong.

Had some time so went over to Pudong for a walk in the old neighborhood. Small places on Weifang still advertising "massage. " Intersection of Weifeng and Baoshan has several upscale looking places with plenty of legs showing. The old BBS's further down Baoshan all seem to be gone. Did not partake. Got to save something for my freebies!

Is it just me, or are more women going "white tiger?" Fine with me. :-the.

Have fun. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1792947]Your comment about this being a location for chit-chat makes no sense to me. This is a discussion forum. Another word in the english language for discussion is chit-chat. I think as long as one person is education by a thread (be it a repeat topic or not) then the board has accomplished its goal. I guess if you don't like certain topics then just tune them out. Like in life for me when there is someone I can't stand, I tune them out. Like you.[/QUOTE]Since you've stated that you don't like Shanghai or the people there, why hang out on this board? Sorry for your bad experiences in Shanghai, but a guy called Hobbiest who does not engage in the hobby is as useful to us as tits on a nun.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1793207]Since you've stated that you don't like Shanghai or the people there, why hang out on this board? Sorry for your bad experiences in Shanghai, but a guy called Hobbiest who does not engage in the hobby is as useful to us as tits on a nun.[/QUOTE]I stop in from time-to-time. The reason I responded is that there newbie who had questions that I had valid answers for. As far as your comment about hobbying. Trust me I do my share. Just not in Shanghai anymore.

I don't like kale but I still force myself to eat it. I consider this forum the kale of my life.

Found a gem who's been working in an MP and now willing to do takeout FS for some extra cash. Some of the regulars here have tried her and gotten super service. PM me for more info, no I'm not getting a penny out of this, you deal with her direct, I just provide contact info.

Dear mongers,

I recently had a trip to Shanghai. First night I wanted to try a sauna. I chose Kang Ding from Shanghai nightlife guide. In fact I had to purchase the VIP option to get the right address.

Despite having address on hand, finding the location wasn't easy. But manages eventually.

I am not Chinese nor speak a word. So google translate was essential for this place. Bot mama, and myself were using the app concurrently.

I chose a stunning X girl from the lineup. I was quoted 1600 with the discount. I thought very very expensive but chose anyway. Biiiig mistake.

In the room, she undressed and surely she was a stunner. Her pubic hair was attractive, the body firm and smooth.

But the service was no t even mediocre. She gave me bbj with clear contempt. Than she lay on her back for me to penetrate. So I came once. And it was 20 minutes. No massage, no nothing. She didn't even try to rekindle situation.

My suggestion, if you're there pick a normal girl with nuru massage. This is ridiculous.

I complained to mama after the fact and she politely listened. But I was already short of money and decent boner.

This is not a criticism to SNG nor sauna. But if you don't speak the language choose the low price option.

[QUOTE=NoseDick;1794029]Dear mongers,


But the service was no t even mediocre. She gave me bbj with clear contempt. Than she lay on her back for me to penetrate. So I came once. And it was 20 minutes. No massage, no nothing. She didn't even try to rekindle situation.

This is not a criticism to SNG nor sauna. But if you don't speak the language choose the low price option.[/QUOTE]In fact it is not even a language problem, it is much more a culture problem.

While most foreigners think a higher rate also must be a better service, Chinese guys simply agree to pay more for have sex with a more pretty girl.

From my view it has a lot of "show off" that they can afford that, but finally it's not really the service they want to enjoy.

The result is, that as more "model style" a girl is, as less service she need to provide even she can charge much more!

A really tall girl with big tits can ask for any rate and it doesn't matter how much the guy pay, she think if she only open her leg and let him do the job, he should be happy already!

And because of the "bottleneck", that actually all saunas have problems to find enough girls, they also have nearly no chance to "push" them for a better service.

Because a "model type girl" can find 10 other saunas to work in one hour, if she like to leave. So she not care so much about complaints.

All that is a negative development, which has increased strongly in recent two years! The result is, that you nearly find no sauna without the "different price range", which simply has got necessary to get a chance for some "models" in the lineup. And also the influence of the sauna management to the service level of the girls go down with that.

I agree to your advice to keep away from the "models", except you don't care to get a bad service very often. Don't expect this girls to go the extra mile for you. That can happen, but you need to be very lucky or try it out very often, till you find the "one of 100" who think she should also provide something in return for her high rate!

Have fun and monger save.

Steven

[QUOTE=NoseDick;1794029]Dear mongers,

I recently had a trip to Shanghai. First night I wanted to try a sauna. I chose Kang Ding from Shanghai nightlife guide. In fact I had to purchase the VIP option to get the right address.

Despite having address on hand, finding the location wasn't easy. But manages eventually.

I am not Chinese nor speak a word. So google translate was essential for this place. Bot mama, and myself were using the app concurrently.

I chose a stunning X girl from the lineup. I was quoted 1600 with the discount. I thought very very expensive but chose anyway. Biiiig mistake.

In the room, she undressed and surely she was a stunner. Her pubic hair was attractive, the body firm and smooth.

But the service was no t even mediocre. She gave me bbj with clear contempt. Than she lay on her back for me to penetrate. So I came once. And it was 20 minutes. No massage, no nothing. She didn't even try to rekindle situation.

My suggestion, if you're there pick a normal girl with nuru massage. This is ridiculous.

I complained to mama after the fact and she politely listened. But I was already short of money and decent boner.

This is not a criticism to SNG nor sauna. But if you don't speak the language choose the low price option.[/QUOTE]In general, I think we have all found, for the most part, that there is a negative correlation between drop dead gorgeous looks and the level of service. As guys, we always hope that this is not true.

Its my opinion, if you adopt the old Avis adage, "We're #2, we try harder! You are more likely to be happy.

BTW, from reading the SNG section on independent escorts, it seems that this option is pretty good.

Good luck with your next attempt.

I would not say there is a negative correlation between the price and physical appearance of the princess / model and the service she provides, but there is a lack of correlation. But that can be true for almost everything: the price and decor of the place and what you actually get, be that the sauna as a whole or a restaurant.

As a matter of fact, we as male, are one-sided and overlook the more often present negative correlation between the behavior and decency of the guy towards the girls and the size of his wallet. I saw a guy, repeatedly and roughly shoving a very beautiful and exquisitely dressed girl outside of a well known KTV, just because she did not want to have her picture taken standing in front of his fancy Porsche. The doormen stood there looking and did nothing. I was very offended and was about to intervene when my Chinese host hurriedly pushed me along. (maybe they knew that guy was not someone you should mess with).