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[QUOTE=Cougar Cookie;1301017]Hi Tokyo1, I am not running a clinic here. I am not remotely qualified to advise on STD's or any other medical condition. But a serious pain [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] that shows up after two weeks could be something as serious as Gonorrhea. Could also be Chlamydia. If you take a free anon HIV test at the Shinjuku ward office medical centre they throw in a couple of extra tests. Gonorrhea used to be one of them, but then they swapped it for a Chlamydia test because Chlamydia was running at plague proportions. Go and see a doctor based near Shinjuku or some other sex district who is current on STD's and what is going around the 'hood.[/QUOTE]I also came down with an non-specific UTI after visiting Ichigo. Was cleared for the named but something got in my system for sure and while it might be unfair, having come back to this thread and read the experiences I would say the likelihood is it came from there.

[QUOTE=Gyd1891; 1306881]A couple of weeks ago, at around 5 PM on Saturday 7th July, I went to the Naniwa soapland in Yoshiwara. Although I speak Japanese well, I used the offer available at the Tokyo Nights website:

[url]http://www.tokyonights.jp/japanese-girls/shop_info.php?id=aquapalace[/url]

Earlier in the day booking through that website online was easy, and I received a phone call from an English speaking staff member a couple of hours later. She confirmed a few details, such as about the type of girl I wanted and also gave some instructions about arriving there. I was asked to come to Minowa station on the Hibiya Line, and they had a friendly driver pick me up fro there. A ten minute drive later, I was at Minowa and welcomed in by the tencho and other staff members.

They were fully prepared for a foreigner, although because I speak Japanese there were no issues in communicating. In the waiting area one of the staff members gave me a couple of cards with photos of the only two girls available at that time. I asked if there were more options, but unfortunately the other girls were either in service already, or been booked by other customers. The girl I initially chose, in fact, had also been booked as it turned out. So the only choice left was a young lady called 'Aisha' who I had to wait about 20 minutes for (she had not started the shift yet). In that time a steady stream of other punters came and went. Looks like they are a bust joint.

I handed over my 33000 Yen, which is 15000 Yen less than the normal price due to booking through the Tokyo Nights site. Finally Aisha came in and took me upstairs to one of the rooms. This is her (quite Photoshoped) picture:

[url]http://www.club-naniwa.com/profile.html?uid=tori[/url]

She was cute, but I wouldn't say as much as in that photo. Also she was a tiny little thing. Only 145 cm so not quite my normal choice when mongering. Anyway she was very friendly and chatty, had only started there about 3 months ago after moving down here from Hokkaido. After ordering some free drinks, she took me to the standard "open bottom" chair in the soap places and gave a good wash, paying attention to the bottom areas. After a short bath we were straight onto the bed and she asked whether I wanted to go bareback or with a condom! According to Aisha the Japanese customers usually do not go with a rubber. Complete maness!

Of course I went with a condom, but before that she sensually kissed my whole body and then gave very long and quite skillful BBBJ. When I was ready she slipped on the condom and then we went at it in quite a few positions. In the end I popped and went through the same cleaning once again. Aisha was not rushed, took her time and I had a nice chat with her about various things. At Naniwa the girls usually keep to themselves as the tencho does not want them to become too friendly with each other. I asked her why she decided to work at this particular soapland when choosing her place. It seems many of the girls are pretty small (short) which she felt comfortable with. Most of the foreign customers they get are Chinese and Korean, with a smaller number of others from South / South East Asia, Europe and North America.

Anyway, after our 90 mins were done I kissed Aisha goodbye and then was driven back to Minowa station again by the staff driver. This is the first soapland I have been to in Japan (previously a couple of times in Thailand) and the service was good of course. However for the quality of girl available, and I guess the difficulty in choosing one girl specifically, as well as deciding from photoshopped pictures, I think it was too pricey. For an easy and accessible soapland, especially if you don't speak much Japanese, then this is a good option.[/QUOTE]Naniwa is probably one of the few Yoshiwara soapland available to gaijin for a "decent " price. But my last visit there was a bit like yours, or even slightly worse, in a sense that the girl was frankly unattractive. And no mattress play. In 2011, King's club offered much nicer girls, mattress play for less money. But, for some reasons, they are no more Gaijin friendly.

Seems that yokohama sopalands are better VFM, read the thread.

So, yes, naniwa seems too pricey for what at the end is a nice but simple wash, BBBJ and FS.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1307202]Naniwa is probably one of the few Yoshiwara soapland available to gaijin for a "decent " price. But my last visit there was a bit like yours, or even slightly worse, in a sense that the girl was frankly unattractive. And no mattress play. In 2011, King's club offered much nicer girls, mattress play for less money. But, for some reasons, they are no more Gaijin friendly.

Seems that yokohama sopalands are better VFM, read the thread.

So, yes, naniwa seems too pricey for what at the end is a nice but simple wash, BBBJ and FS.[/QUOTE]Hmm. They don't offer mat play even with a 2 hour session? I might have to try Aisha out, since I do prefer short girls and haven't done the soapland thing yet. Is she skinny, too?

[QUOTE=Meiji;1306759]Short version was that I paid 1 man yen for an okay massage and a happy ending, and I'm not really sure why.[/QUOTE]I'm beginning to think that the reason this happened was a miscommunication of some sort. Generally when I go to massage parlors I know what the general 'menu' is ahead of time, and I more or less just let the girl run her 'script', which makes them more comfortable, and is more than enough fun for me. I also generally don't mention specific services so I don't scare the girl from a legal perspective. So I figured with Himawari that if I went with the default menu, I'd get FS. Apparently there was a part of the conversation in Japanese that I didn't quite catch, where the girl probably said "I can use my hand or do something else" while making the jerk-off motion with her hand, when I thought that she was responding to me touching her leg and saying "I'll get you off later", so when I nodded my assent, she probably took it to mean I just wanted the happy ending.

If I would have known, I would have thrown in a "fera to honban ga dekirun desu ka?" into the conversation, but again, usually mentioning sex is forbidden at such places. I'm not sure how they handle it with guys that show up speaking absolutely no Japanese. That's my guess as to what happened, after rethinking it. I might give them a try at some point, since that price point is pretty excellent for FS.

[QUOTE=Bareta;1306947]I also came down with an non-specific UTI after visiting Ichigo. Was cleared for the named but something got in my system for sure and while it might be unfair, having come back to this thread and read the experiences I would say the likelihood is it came from there.[/QUOTE]IDK, I think 3-4 guys coming forward with the same problems from the same place in a one week period says something. Imagine all the others who don't know about ISG.

Think about it. Those girls are taking 4 loads in the mouth per hour, with less than 1 minute intervals in between having cocks between their lips, for 6 hours a day or more.

[QUOTE=Meiji;1307208]Hmm. They don't offer mat play even with a 2 hour session? I might have to try Aisha out, since I do prefer short girls and haven't done the soapland thing yet. Is she skinny, too?[/QUOTE]Mat play is fine! Just let the tencho and the provider you select know specifically that you want to spend some or almost all of your time with the mat. Grace had wonderful technique when I was there several weeks ago.

If you have a chance to peruse Japanese language info on soaplands, especially interviews with the women who work there, a lot of Japanese punters don't go for the air mattress / lotion play anymore because they just want to get a couple rounds of FS in during the session, or because the lotion tickles or feels bad, whatever. Maybe it all becomes old hat for them. It's certainly a lot of preparation and effort for the provider, so "bed play" is always easier.

Naniwa is a relatively new shop, and has a lot of new to the game providers. The veterans at more established soaps seem to be disappointed when their customers won't allow them to do the mat play.

Just remember, you can let your provider know anything you want to do, no matter how "unusual". Japanese guys do that all the time. No guarantee that she'll be into it, of course, and she may refuse. But mat play is 100% standard, and always available.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Muku1; 1307261]Mat play is fine! Just let the tencho and the provider you select know specifically that you want to spend some or almost all of your time with the mat. Grace had wonderful technique when I was there several weeks ago.

If you have a chance to peruse Japanese language info on soaplands, especially interviews with the women who work there, a lot of Japanese punters don't go for the air mattress / lotion play anymore because they just want to get a couple rounds of FS in during the session, or because the lotion tickles or feels bad, whatever. Maybe it all becomes old hat for them. It's certainly a lot of preparation and effort for the provider, so "bed play" is always easier.

Naniwa is a relatively new shop, and has a lot of new to the game providers. The veterans at more established soaps seem to be disappointed when their customers won't allow them to do the mat play.

Just remember, you can let your provider know anything you want to do, no matter how "unusual". Japanese guys do that all the time. No guarantee that she'll be into it, of course, and she may refuse. But mat play is 100% standard, and always available.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]. Quite simply because there was no mat in the room, I mean "wet"mat. There was a tiny bed for play, but that was just for normal FS.

When I went to King's club a year and a half ago, you could only have matplay if you took at least 80 min. I did. However, my (nice) girl then was about to go straight from catbath to bed, and I had to ask her for matplay, which she did happily.

If there is currently a yoshiwara soapland, open to gaijins, offering as a default matplay, and no more than say 30000 Y, I like to know.

[QUOTE=Meiji;1307210]I'm beginning to think that the reason this happened was a miscommunication of some sort. I'm not sure how they handle it with guys that show up speaking absolutely no Japanese. That's my guess as to what happened, after rethinking it. I might give them a try at some point, since that price point is pretty excellent for FS.[/QUOTE]That is why it is difficult for strangers to get servived regularly and easily. They want, by culture, to avoid disappointed customers and miscummunications (not understanding each other) leads to this. They reject by default as they cannot go through the motion of checking much japanese language skills.. (apart the other issues of uncofort from maygirl towards gajins)

[QUOTE=K1234K;1306325]For gold class, I was very satisfied with Mei. Like Kira, she also had some crooked teeth, but otherwise platinum grade tight body and service. Still one of the best bbjs I've ever had. She does amazing things with her fingers and fingernails while doing it![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dlbtmail;1306089]I recommend Kira. She's platinum class. I think that she's as cute as her pictures. She does have some messed up teeth, but I find it charming.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions. Kira was actually unavailable when I went there so I went with Yuria. Very cute and extremely good service too. We had a nice 69 session and she got off twice in less than 5 minutes, so on went the cover and I did her doggy style and mish before finishing in her mouth.

I also went to Grimpeur / 5A Head in the day after and tried to get a session in with Aira, who's their #1 ranked gal. Like Kira though she was unavailable but the tencho offered me Aya, who is #3. Fantastic BJ and stroked me while sucking me off. Very well worth it. FS is also on the menu with her.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1307271]. Quite simply because there was no mat in the room, I mean "wet"mat. There was a tiny bed for play, but that was just for normal FS.

When I went to King's club a year and a half ago, you could only have matplay if you took at least 80 min. I did. However, my (nice) girl then was about to go straight from catbath to bed, and I had to ask her for matplay, which she did happily.

If there is currently a yoshiwara soapland, open to gaijins, offering as a default matplay, and no more than say 30000 Y, I like to know.[/QUOTE]A long time ago another poster wrote about "Cream Lemon" in Yoshiwara.

I tried it and have been happy enough to visit three times this year already. I usually go for the 80min / 25k course (discounts are available) and have always had matplay. I asked the tencho what the standard service included and he didn't mention any time limitations which excluded matplay.

As someone else posted earlier, always ask the tencho any particular service you want and he'll answer you or check with the lady and get back to you. Good luck.

[url]http://www.c-lemon.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1307463]A long time ago another poster wrote about "Cream Lemon" in Yoshiwara.

I tried it and have been happy enough to visit three times this year already. I usually go for the 80min / 25k course (discounts are available) and have always had matplay. I asked the tencho what the standard service included and he didn't mention any time limitations which excluded matplay.

As someone else posted earlier, always ask the tencho any particular service you want and he'll answer you or check with the lady and get back to you. Good luck.

[url]http://www.c-lemon.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thnaks, I have noted this place for my next visit. From what you say, it is the same as King's Club used to be, so let's hope noone messes it up for us before I get back tho tokyo! How doo you book? Phone? In Japanese? Do they have pick up service as well? Sorry to ask, but as much as I can manage (very) basic spoken Nihongo, I can't read kanji.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1307581]Thnaks, I have noted this place for my next visit. From what you say, it is the same as King's Club used to be, so let's hope noone messes it up for us before I get back tho tokyo! How doo you book? Phone? In Japanese? Do they have pick up service as well? Sorry to ask, but as much as I can manage (very) basic spoken Nihongo, I can't read kanji.[/QUOTE]Easiest way is to just go there, walk in, and hope for the best. It's always worked for me at soaps, and my Japanese skills are zero.

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1307594]Easiest way is to just go there, walk in, and hope for the best. It's always worked for me at soaps, and my Japanese skills are zero.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know you can do that. Last year, I (a very white and respectable looking"old man") went walking through Yoshiwara, and was hailed by the tencho from more than half of the shops. But I did not want to go to any place, without previous knowledge. And to identify a specific shop, like this cream lemon for instance is not easy in this labyrinth full of kanji writings. I must say that the VIP treatment that you get if you book, that is, pick up, chauffeur driven limo, drinks, etc. Is appealing and also time effective. Hence my question.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1307463]A long time ago another poster wrote about "Cream Lemon" in Yoshiwara.

[url]http://www.c-lemon.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Glad you liked it! I haven't been there since I wrote the original report, but I would suggest that any ISG users going there to be gentlemen. FS in Yoshiwara without any gaijin tax- and cute girls. This is a special place.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1307463]A long time ago another poster wrote about "Cream Lemon" in Yoshiwara.

I tried it and have been happy enough to visit three times this year already. I usually go for the 80min / 25k course (discounts are available) and have always had matplay. I asked the tencho what the standard service included and he didn't mention any time limitations which excluded matplay.

As someone else posted earlier, always ask the tencho any particular service you want and he'll answer you or check with the lady and get back to you. Good luck.

[url]http://www.c-lemon.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for your report!

Do you usually call to make a reservation or you just go directly to the shop?