Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Western787; 1536808]If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Playboy models, so to me breasts, fake or otherwise are all the same.

On a side note Dancer #31 at Rainbow 4, who seems as far I can tell to have disappeared from the scene, has a very strong resemblance to Miss China 2011, so much so (especially in facial terms) that someone unfamiliar with her could easily pick her out on stage merely after being shown a photo of Miss China. Admittedly she did act somewhat crazy at times, and certainly had a frenetic dancing style. Perhaps she has been sponsored full time as she did seem to be soliciting for someone to do so, so maybe a Japanese or Chinese dude has her stashed away somewhere.

[url]http://missuniversechina.com/2011/wp-content/uploads/luo-zilin-evening-gown1.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]No 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1540326]The question has always been, how does Nataree manage to get all these young and (often quite) hot girls and also offer them at a reasonable price? Obviously the splits going to the dancers have to be better than normal. The building rent or mortgage is probably low enough to allow them to pass on the savings to the girls. However if you put them in Alaina (and its new building) the splits would have to change, so they would lose many of the girls. Now nearly all the soapies are currently operatiing below capacity, so in theory they could move many to Alaina, but it won't' work longer term when the Japanese return in large numbers.

Of course Alaina like many of the high end soapies many nights has live entertainment, and that cost gets passed on also[/QUOTE]Apparently Nataree has established a well used pipeline with Chiang Rai and other northern Thailand areas. I suspect it is associated with the parents of the girls who work there in the form of loans or other payments. This allows them to be picky about hiring more local girls. A high quality product, low overhead and relatively low prices keep the customers coming back.

In fact the sideline girls are well trained to not give a BBBJ and minimal service, with exceptions, in order to keep the customer flow going smoothly. Each individual girl cares little if you come back to see her because she knows there will be a different john waiting in the wings. Therefore she is not penalized by a lack of effort. It all operates in a pattern. She can even ignore the customer by talking on her phone while the tub fills.

It is a sound business model except when the flow of customers slows for various reasons. But then everyone hurts for business when that happens.

[QUOTE=Georgek;1540575]No 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.[/QUOTE]IMHO if #31 would just slow down her dancing style, she would have gotten a lot more customers. One time I saw a few of the girls on the right side making fun of her dance style by mimicking her on stage, and it got kind of nasty after awhile as they wouldn't lay off making fun of her.

In regard to the other extreme, super slow dance styles, there is a very hot dancer who works the left side (usually at the extreme left) at R4 (with almost a Burmese look)and she wears red platform heels and always has fishnet stockings. She barely moves, no shuffle or steps at all, just moves her hips very very slow with a sligtht rotation every few seconds, and given her great ass and shapely hips it looks amazingly sexy

[QUOTE=Georgek;1540575]No 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.[/QUOTE]As for her English, not so good, and probably less than 6 or 7 sentences ("you have a girlfriend yet"?"condom?","ok take care of ME now" (directing you to go down on her). Now as far as her kissing, very very good, and would even full mouth lingering kiss you right out in the open at the club

[QUOTE=Dan Key; 1540009]Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all

The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the

Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all

Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:

It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.

The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.

Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get

On their phones etcetc.

The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just

Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just

Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.

Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and

Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.

Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There

Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90

Minutes, then it'll be a palace.[/QUOTE]According to their own website [url]http://www.alainamassage.com/[/url] The A girls are 2000 baht so it looks like you paid the farang surcharge.

As for girls chatting on mobile phones in Nataree, I've never experienced that nor would I put up with it. Just tell her to turn it off.

For all my bitching about Nataree, there I was, lump in my pants and back for more last night. Struck gold. A young petite beauty from Chiang Mai who gave a great massage while the bath was filling, then abnam, then BBBJ and any position, no anal etc. But afterwards we just lay around for half an hour hugging and playing like kids. So of course, if they like you, if you present as a compassionate male rather than a support system for a cock, you often get a great GFE. 90 mins and I was spent and thoroughly charmed. (I speak enough Thai)

As for phones, yes, I always politely say, kor mai mutu, (please no phone). As for Alaina, the prices are 2, 500 to 3, 300 despite what the website says. I know because I've seen the touts cheatsheets, which are in Thai. I wouldn't imagine there's one just for farang. There were no sideliners when I went, just the bowl, and many more staff (yes, including the band) than girls, all hanging about doing nothing. I was the only customer. I also tried Colonze 2, and Madames and that other place next to Nataree. Don't bother. If you're bored with Nataree, try Alaina: it's only 10 mins walk.

[QUOTE=Dan Key; 1540800]For all my bitching about Nataree, there I was, lump in my pants and back for more last night. Struck gold. A young petite beauty from Chiang Mai who gave a great massage while the bath was filling, then abnam, then BBBJ and any position, no anal etc. But afterwards we just lay around for half an hour hugging and playing like kids. So of course, if they like you, if you present as a compassionate male rather than a support system for a cock, you often get a great GFE. 90 mins and I was spent and thoroughly charmed. (I speak enough Thai)

As for phones, yes, I always politely say, kor mai mutu, (please no phone). As for Alaina, the prices are 2, 500 to 3, 300 despite what the website says. I know because I've seen the touts cheatsheets, which are in Thai. I wouldn't imagine there's one just for farang. There were no sideliners when I went, just the bowl, and many more staff (yes, including the band) than girls, all hanging about doing nothing. I was the only customer. I also tried Colonze 2, and Madames and that other place next to Nataree. Don't bother. If you're bored with Nataree, try Alaina: it's only 10 mins walk.[/QUOTE]One needs to keep in mind that out of four experiences at Nataree, one will likely be a home run like yours, one will be a near disaster and the other two will be in between. That has been my experience over the long haul of several years. And no question about it, having Thai language skills helps your chances. Even if they know hardly any English, almost every girl asks me "You speak Thai?" Also acting like a gentleman will improve your chances. And immediately tell the girl to turn off the tv if she switches it on.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1539096]I can second Daddy San. I regularly go off the beaten track for fresh anal girls. In the past month I've fucked 10 girls who worked in regular massage shops or were friends of girls who worked in regular massage shops. Ages 18-32 and from all parts of Thailand. Only one even mentioned a condom and eight of them took it up the ass. As the saying goes,"Closed mouths don't get fed". I ask for anal and I get it. The onus of condom usage falls on both parties, if I wouldn't have had my own condoms and insisted on using them then there would have been a lot of bareback buttfucking going on.[/QUOTE]Have any tips for spotting ones who would be open to it? Are the massage places where these girls are located in one particular area, etc? Are you paying them for their time or is it a non-pro situation? Do you just get their Line ID or something and hit them up later?

Very curious to give it a whirl. I'm not the smoothest guy, so any help is appreciated.

In other news, I went with Pummy at Snow White the other day. Beautiful, open to A+, great BJ, but goes a little too slow for me at times. Nice body, but breasts slightly underwhelming.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden;1540834]One needs to keep in mind that out of four experiences at Nataree, one will likely be a home run like yours, one will be a near disaster and the other two will be in between. That has been my experience over the long haul of several years. And no question about it, having Thai language skills helps your chances. Even if they know hardly any English, almost every girl asks me "You speak Thai?" Also acting like a gentleman will improve your chances. And immediately tell the girl to turn off the tv if she switches it on.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. Too many crap girls there. That is why I avoid Nataree for 2 to 3 years now. Some other places I manage a better hit rate. La Belle is also on my low hit rate list.

Anyone in Bangkok want to head down to Ratcha? A little bit bored travelling alone.

Thinking of hitting either Emmanuelle, Nataree or Alaina. Been to Nataree and Alaina so might try Emmanuelle.

[QUOTE=Eddie Munster; 1540904]Have any tips for spotting ones who would be open to it? Are the massage places where these girls are located in one particular area, etc? Are you paying them for their time or is it a non-pro situation? Do you just get their Line I'd or something and hit them up later?

Very curious to give it a whirl. I'm not the smoothest guy, so any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm not smooth either but you're going to need a little courage to get what you're after outside of the usual places like Tulip. To answer your questions: there isn't any particular area to peruse or way to spot the ones who would be open to it but I just go after the ones I like (I'm pretty picky) and then go from there. Also, not all P4P either. The only caveats would be that I'm young and I speak Thai. I'll give an example though this actually happened in Hua Hin not Bangkok.

I went to a legit massage parlor away from the main strip area. I walked in and then some old hag of a masseuse walked in behind me thinking she would massage me, I told her no and the picked the cute one with the nice ass that I was eyeing from across the street. She asked me why I chose her and I told her in the most polite way possible that I picked her because I liked her butt. This simple comment set the tone and got her to giggle. I got the Thai massage and it was great. When I flipped over and she was doing my thighs I got the inevitable woody and I caught her staring at it. She giggled again, read my body language and then said "No special here" with a sly smile. I laughed and said "that's ok, I don't like hand jobs anyway". Five minutes passes and she asks "why you don't like?" I reply "because it doesn't feel good to me and you said no special already". This leads to her to change her tune and say "Ok, can boom boom but have to be quiet. 1,500 baht ok?" I tell her I'll give her 1, 500 total, including the massage (the massage was 400 baht already) but only if it includes for anal. She says no, I say never mind then. She asks a few more times for regular sex, I tell her no since it doesn't get me off. Eventually she says ok but tells me to go slow and stop if it hurts. Huge grin on my face at this point. I bend her over and lick her ass to relax her and she's moaning softly. I can tell she likes it from the moans and the fact that her pussy is getting soaking wet but when I asks if it feels good she tells me "no" in between moans. The ultimate display of cognitive dissonance. I lube her up and go straight for the ass, she's uncomfortable but I take my time and after a few minutes I'm in. A few more minutes and she's moaning again, a few more and I'm leaned over deep french kissing her while really plowing her asshole. Her butthole is tight and smooth and I don't last much longer since she's moaning and kissing me like this. I can't believe my luck so I make sure to get her number. That was few months ago and I've been fucking her regularly since then and to this day I've yet to fuck her pussy. Always anal. She loves it, I love it. Now I get her for very long time for 1, 000 baht. And before anyone asks or jokes, I'm above average size. You'd be surprised what can fit inside these girls under the right circumstances.

In this situation if I wouldn't have asked for what I wanted, then there is no way I would be banging this 19 year up the butt on the regular right now. She's one of my favorites at the moment but by no means is this the only example I have. I do use Line and What's App by the way. Both apps are absolute gold mines. Easy to keep in touch and free for the girls. Like I said, be up front with what you want and know that you don't have to settle. It's easy to find.

[quote=ixgzca;1541293]i'm not smooth either but you're going to need a little courage to get what you're after outside of the usual places like tulip. to answer your questions: there isn't any particular area to peruse or way to spot the ones who would be open to it but i just go after the ones i like (i'm pretty picky) and then go from there. also, not all p4p either. the only caveats would be that i'm young and i speak thai.[/quote]what's a nice way to tell a girl you want anal sex in thai? there are some suggestions on the tlc website but they often give formal phrases not used in everyday speech. here is what they suggest for anal intercourse:

khaof bpral dtuum langr
ruaamf phaehtf thaangm thah waanm nakl
lenf dtuutl

[quote=*****man;1541366]what's a nice way to tell a girl you want anal sex in thai? there are some suggestions on the tlc website but they often give formal phrases not used in everyday speech.[/quote]if you can't come up with a way to say it in thai, i suggest english is better, as your thai may not be good enough.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1541368]If you can't come up with a way to say it in Thai, I suggest English is better, as your Thai may not be good enough.[/QUOTE]My Thai is pretty good but asking for anal sex is obviously not something that appears in your average language book nor would they teach it in a language school.

Asking for it in English would be completely pointless if the girl doesn't understand English.

[QUOTE=*****man; 1541370]My Thai is pretty good but asking for anal sex is obviously not something that appears in your average language book nor would they teach it in a language school.

Asking for it in English would be completely pointless if the girl doesn't understand English.[/QUOTE]Thais like to speak a little indirectly about grubby stuff.

"Ao doot" would be quite direct.

"Ao khang Lang" slightly less direct.

I am not actually raising this type of phrase with girls however they did mention in Thai occasionally. I don't recall exact phrases they used.