[QUOTE=MrHo;2144240]Congratulation on your winning of freedom and released from Prison De La Marriage LOL.
[/QUOTE]Hey Mr Ho, it's 'prison du mariage ', stop watching Paris Hilton sextape again and again and go back to your French lessons!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2144240]Congratulation on your winning of freedom and released from Prison De La Marriage LOL.
[/QUOTE]Hey Mr Ho, it's 'prison du mariage ', stop watching Paris Hilton sextape again and again and go back to your French lessons!
There's German, Dutch and French boards with a lot of advertising and close connections to the clubs. Admins receiving free entry and in exchange deleting negative reports. You have to know and to consider this when reading reports. There's only a few boards with little advertising and and only one without. Make your choice.
[QUOTE=NNC1701;2144562]
The Dutch forum simply does not have any credibility left for me because for me it has become nearly impossible to filter out the genuine reports from the (fake?) advertisement or biased reports from men who have fallen in love with a hooker. [/QUOTE]Warahmatullahi wabarakatuh NNC1701! These words of reviewers remind of the ecstatic utterances (sathiyyāt) of the early poet Sufis when they jostled for honor in boasting contests (the famous mufāk̲h̲ara).
[QUOTE=Pistons;2144634]In stock market forums this has been going on ever since internet started, and it was probably there it began.[/QUOTE]Astroturfing has got more sophisticated since then and settled like scum on every market pond. But there is something about FKKs that is different than pumping stocks or raving on movies and it is this: customers are the eyes and ears of the FKKs.
Even the dumbest tourists have valuable information to contribute, precisely because they are the first to be targeted when things start to go wrong. The tourists are the canaries in the coal mine! By the time the more privileged customers realize something is amiss, it is too late: the fumes have spread too far, the gangs have taken over. Look at what happened to FKK Mainhattan and how all their bears decamped to Sharks last year. Where would Mainhattan be now if only they had listened to customers early on? With about three times as much revenue, most likely.
From this, FKK managers should realize that honest reviewers are their friends not their enemies. It is not about customers vs FKKs or guys vs girls. It is about everybody working together to keep a clean business environment where consumers and providers can connect freely and without molestation. In this context trying to suppress feedback is like tying a blindfold around your head (or paying astroturfers and the truckling free-entry crowd to tie it for you).
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2144782]There's German, Dutch and French boards with a lot of advertising and close connections to the clubs. Admins receiving free entry and in exchange deleting negative reports. You have to know and to consider this when reading reports. There's only a few boards with little advertising and and only one without. Make your choice.[/QUOTE]This sums it all up. But where is this hype-free oasis?
Many people live for different thing in life.
I live for fucking beautiful girls since age 17 both pros and normal girls from around world. This is my core pleasure in life. I also enjoy gourmet every day every meals and I traveled a lot for cultural discovery when I was younger, but now I can only well let say I only let myself travel where I can monger stunner of stunner, cremes de cremes of young beauty, this is what mongering do to you in the end. It did to me.
I met legal green herbs and fucking beautiful girls when I was 17 years old and since then I found my true self right in this combined activity.
When I am on mongering trip, I feel so alive, every day I feel so alive during my mongering trip. And when I am back home like now, I enjoy my daily life enjoying thinking about girls I fucked around the world, and I fuck Eurasian here when I find stunner level Eurasians, which is like few times per year. I kind of enjoy between time of mongering trips because I somehow feel melancholy thinking about old flame kinda feeling.
What I am living for is worth every minutes of my life and I am so glad I found something so real and solid because most men live life confused not knowing what they want to do in their life, caught up between office hours and nagging wife.
Live and let live, long live professional mongers out there!
Once upon a time, not so long ago. Men take girl out to dinner, buy her nice dinner, nice wine, nice flowers, celebrate every events one can think of almost every month, buy her gifts etc. And between time basically men kiss ass of women on the knee mostly send sms, cards, numerous phone calls preaching love with some love song lyrics you read from are and be love songs etc etc.
All this above so called courting girls just to get girl into bed to have sex.
Now, if we can achieve the goal, even more dirty passionate sex by just going to FKK and sometimes you even get lucky and encouter some university students and they provide you honeymoon first night sex for 150 euro or 200 euro per hours. Which is bit more rate you got to pay because if you are not french sirioja, you have to pay up LOL Then what is the point of courting girl nowadays?
I mean goal is same and even better provider in technique and atmosphere they create, better kisser, blowjober, you can tell her to tell you certain things, and all this for more cheaper price, without destroying your reputation and also you can change as you want.
I think FKK offers you encounters that men have in life, but in more quantity and also often quality as you do meet real beauty and they often provide when you pay up a bit.
Yes siri, no need for you to say, no need to pay, good manner and behavior etc we got it LOL.
But wow now, we get same goal, but better at FKK.
I never get why many men can not do the simple math which one is better option for happy life LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2144332]Well, both you and me used to visit Artemis a lot in that period. So sure Artemis is not at the same level these days. But a club like Oase for example has a better lineup from 2015 until today than it had prior to 2015. At least optically. And service was about the same before 2015 just with less upselling. True the 50 e sessions at Oase has deteriorated, but its not due to optics. So it is not the same everywhere. Then there are also some new clubs the last 3-4 years too, like Oceans, Marina, Wellcum. Not all are in the same area sure, but these girls drift between the 20-30 top FKK's, so it really is one market to a high degree.
Other clubs that has fallen are VV and PHG. They had great reviews 5 years ago. But today not so much.
With many clubs it is just a matter of 2-3 top girls joining or leaving the clubs. That is all the difference between a great day and waste of time. Most clubs aside from the biggest 5-7 FKK's hardly ever have more than 5 stunners, and mostly just 2-3. So if those are away, its grim. And it can be a do or die for the club. Not to mention for the word of mouth regarding that club. At least if you are picky like some of us. Some others in here may even consider many clubs to be a 1 girl club. And may leave with no sessions on a third of their visits to many clubs. But that is how it is in smaller clubs. The problem with the bigger clubs on the other hand is more drama. More group gangs of girls posing restrictions on fellow girls at the clubs etc etc.[/QUOTE]Yeah I am one of those most FKK just have one to three girls type of picky guy. Artemis before 2015 was different, I had about 3 to 5 girls I want to do per day. However, past is past and those days are gone.
Oase, I actually went in 2015, I saw good old Nika who I do not consider as stunner at all due to her too much tattoo and too much bad operated exploding tits (she could have been stunner without those operations and also with bit of workout in gym). I did find one Hungarian that I had worst session in FKK history for 100 euro for 60 min session, it was so bad, but she was hot, she was Hungarian and slightly tanned, ever since then I have not been back to Oase, but next time I am in Hessen fully I may go back to Oase. I usually do Hessen for 3 days, nrw for 2 days and total of 5 FKK days trip, which works great for me using ICE train.
Now what to do, I may do combination of Berlin and Hamburg. Most likely Hamburg 4 days and Artemis Berlin for one night. Hmmm. Those who live in Germany are lucky to live there beside high tax, but if I live in Germany, I be going FKK every two days spending about 500 euro each time that will be heavy burden on my career plan LOL.
I think from when FKK as we know it kicked in from about mid 2000 ish till year 2017 July when BBBJ law kicked in, we monger lived golden best era for sexual mongering. German FKK was it.
I kind of am glad that I took part of that golden sexual era almost fully.
I know prostitution has been around since day one of humanity and oldest job and all that, but I think from mid 2000 ish till last July 2017, it was best years in history for sexual mongering.
Only exception is Brazil maybe but I never been there, so I cannot compare German FKK and Brazil.
What a golden years it was in Germany and I am glad I was right in it.
Brothers,
I live in Asia, but will be in Brussels in a few weeks. Where is the closest FKK club with high quality girls? Prefer bare-back if possible. So I have to go as far as Koln or Frankfurt? Or is there something closer to the border that would meet my needs.
Thanks- happy to offer tips or debatable for Asia.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2145618]Brothers,
I live in Asia, but will be in Brussels in a few weeks. Where is the closest FKK club with high quality girls? Prefer bare-back if possible. So I have to go as far as Koln or Frankfurt? Or is there something closer to the border that would meet my needs.
Thanks- happy to offer tips or debatable for Asia.[/QUOTE]FKK Sixsens near Aachen could be worth a visit on a Saturday. No barebacking. Otherwise quickies at the Brussels RLD. Renting a car widens your options. Combine Sixsens with Golden times.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2145580]I think from when FKK as we know it kicked in from about mid 2000 ish till year 2017 July when BBBJ law kicked in, we monger lived golden best era for sexual mongering. German FKK was it.
I kind of am glad that I took part of that golden sexual era almost fully.
I know prostitution has been around since day one of humanity and oldest job and all that, but I think from mid 2000 ish till last July 2017, it was best years in history for sexual mongering.
Only exception is Brazil maybe but I never been there, so I cannot compare German FKK and Brazil.
What a golden years it was in Germany and I am glad I was right in it.[/QUOTE]Despite new law, if you know how to behave with women, because even when paying, everything is not due for money, then Germany stay still very enjoyable for me for my week ends pleasures. Not for my holidays, I prefer ski and bicycle mountains climbing.
With my LR Eve who became ready for anything for money as I said to her, so far from what she claimed to be, but she always chose me before her big money clients. Even she is now very angry after I stopped with her and told her she is now only a prostitute for me, not anymore a attractive elegant woman, I m pretty sure she regrets more I don t value her anymore, treating her as a woman, rather than some big money clients loss, who were just money for her.
Manners also pay, and my girls have will to please me. BBBJ still standard for my experiences, not much changed, except some good girls who stopped because of registration, so just have to find and build new good girls for our tastes.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2145618]Brothers,
I live in Asia, but will be in Brussels in a few weeks. Where is the closest FKK club with high quality girls? Prefer bare-back if possible. So I have to go as far as Koln or Frankfurt? Or is there something closer to the border that would meet my needs.
Thanks- happy to offer tips or debatable for Asia.[/QUOTE]Closest are 6 ens and YinYang in NL, and GT Bruggen, PHG, Villa Vertigo, Babylon Elsdorf and Samya Koln in Germany. Less than 2 hours driving from Brussels.
Best quality is GT for me. Second is YY.
For BB, you have to go to small AO clubs around Dusseldorf, or small Bulgarian Mina at Samya, before she move again.
German taxes are not really high compared to many other European countries. Even France has higher taxes than Germany. For the super rich Germany is even considered a tax haven. Although not as corrupt as Switzerland. But in Asia it is worse I suppose. South Korea and Singapore being two of the worst offenders. And these tax free corrupt zones in China. Not too familiar with the Japanese tax rates though.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2145618]Brothers,
I live in Asia, but will be in Brussels in a few weeks. Where is the closest FKK club with high quality girls? Prefer bare-back if possible. So I have to go as far as Koln or Frankfurt? Or is there something closer to the border that would meet my needs.
Thanks- happy to offer tips or debatable for Asia.[/QUOTE]Oceans has many girls who provide BBFS. Just ask discretely.
Hi All,
I am planning a new visit and my plan is as follows;.
08.03. 2018 Thursday. Oase.
09.03. 2018. Friday. Golden Time.
10.03. 2018. Saturday. Samya.
I need your comments. (Thursday is ok for Oase? How is Friday in GT? Maybe I can change the days.).
Is there anything that need to be avoided for these days. I mean big messe or holiday (easter, national holiday etc.).
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2145886]Hi All,
I am planning a new visit and my plan is as follows;.
08.03. 2018 Thursday. Oase.
09.03. 2018. Friday. Golden Time.
10.03. 2018. Saturday. Samya.
I need your comments. (Thursday is ok for Oase? How is Friday in GT? Maybe I can change the days.).
Is there anything that need to be avoided for these days. I mean big messe or holiday (easter, national holiday etc.).[/QUOTE]I think Thursday is dessous, ie non nude, day at Oase. I personally dislike that and I prefer clubs where the girls are fully nude.