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Hi guys.

If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Hi guys.

If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol[/QUOTE]
I think you can
You probably have to be careful on not being too handsome with the girls and get many wifes:)

Third trip to BBK, and not too much has changed in 4 years!

After taking limo from Airport (BMW 7-Series for 2, 200Bht), settled in a the Grand Sukhumvit on Soi 6, but it really might as well be on Soi 4 as it is SO close to the NEP on 4. Unfortunately they did insist on charging me for a full extra night even though my arrival was at 5am. Was hoping for more of a break. 500Bht for Internet seems excesive and I will probably try somewhere else next time, but a nice hotel none the less. Used theor web site to book so I could upgrade the room. Problem with wholesalers is that you always get the smallest room, and not necessarily for ay less than booking direct.

Culd not help my self and headed right ot to start the fun. Fund a very beautiful girl, and got half way back to the hotel before realizing was a LB. Why do they often look the best! So. Had to chase that one away.

Next day headed to Teen Massage on Soi 24/1 about 1pm, had an OK time, but I think I would have rather tried one of the oter ones. Rooms very ugly and not all that clean.

By 7pm not sure I was ready to go again but was near Soi Cowboy so decided to stop in at Bacaraca. What luck! Almost immediately spotted two beautiful young ones just size (short, small breasts and very thin). I picked them out in part because they were having fun with each other, and seemed to have the most energy on the upstairs dance floor in spite of a small crowd. This has always been a good approach for me, to look for those that seem to have the most interest and enthusasism. Some of them are SO not into what they are doing. Not that I can blame them, must be tough to keep up energy level hour after hour. Anyway, invited them for a drink and they almost immediately proposed. And off to my hotel room we were! Fa and Be were their names. Love those school girl outfits. BF 600Bht and 1, 500Bht for ST each. Very fun and willing, and although probably not exactly bi-sexual, they made the moves necessary to make it a very enjoyable few hours.

I gave Fa my card on the way out, and told her I wanted her to call me the next day and cme spend the night with me. Did it on the side so as to not offend the second girl. Fa was just a bit more pretty and loved her work.

Next day I had arranged with [url]www.escortgirlsbangkok.com[/url] to have Hana come to my room at 9am.

This girl was probably the gem of my trip. Personality, language, beauty. She had it all. She was from Chang Mai and unfortunately was going out of town the next day otherwise I would probably have had her return. Many times.

Later in the day tried Annies for a soappy massage. Never did a soapy on my first two trips. Sad to say, was abit of a dissapointment. Place was just not all that much of a turn on. Again, kind of dirty and very plain. I think I shoudl have gone to the effort to go to Emmanuels or Posidion. Not that I have been to these, but my research seemed to indicate that these had a better quality of service and a little better facilities.

That night, as I said Fa for the night.

Needing a day off, I headed to Siam Paragon for a little shopping, and a movie in one of those great 600bht movie seats. Love them! Also visited my favorite market Pak Khlong Market. Look it up in any guide book. If you like to cook, you will e facinated by being able to walk through the stalls of families processing frest fruits, vegetables and flowers.

Also on one of these earlier days I made a visit to the weekend market to buy silks (they pack so well) for gifts for those at home. I recommend this as a great day out if you are around on a weekend.

For my last night I ordered a duo of Nok and June from [url]www.Bangkokgoldescorts.com[/url]

Wile expensive, I wanted a no hassle experience. Nice Lingeire and toys. A bit mechanical, but a part of that was my fault. Wile I loved the A-level from Nok, June was the beauty of the two. Would absolutely see June again.

And here I sit, working out a girl from one of the services for tmorrow morning 8am just before my flights back!

Over all I was dissapointed in one of my wanders through NEP. Seemed dirtyier and seedier than last time, and far to many Lady Boys. I think I am more of a Soi Cowboy fan. But the debate will always rage back and forth on this form of NEP versus Cowboy. Try them both see what you like! NEP strikes me more of a place to do a lot of drinking, which I do not do.

I like the escort services and had good luck, but to each their own!

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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Hi guys.

If I'm able to make between 4k-5k USD per month, will i be able to make a decent living in Bangkok? I just like to have a nice condo and be able to relax, eat good foods, and have fun with the girls.. im simple lol[/QUOTE]

More than a decent living. 5K USD is more or less 160K Thai Baht and with this money we can have a good living in BKK. A good condo (I assume one bedroom) will cost no more than 35K Baht. With 1K Baht per day you can eat breakfast, lunch and dinner in places with good food. Utilities (assuming reasonable air-con usage) will not go over 2500 k per month. So you'll have more than 90K per month for fun and this will buy a lot in Thailand. Of course if you dive into luxury you'll have some small problems but still you'll be able to have a nice condo, eat good foods and have some fun.

[QUOTE=Michi]Stayed there a couple of times and can confirm what Giotto says. Even if i never had a longer chat with him, but only with Guido.[/QUOTE]

Guido is great, but not sure Guido has the 411 that I'm looking for. ;)

[quote=wendella]ok so the sports bar is useful for people who don't want to venture out, though why someone would want to travel all the way to bangkok only to stay inside the grounds of their hotel strikes me as pretty odd.

[b]can you give an example of the specific kind of info given out at ll that would save you wasted time and money? [/b]

i often see this kind of comment about this place, always in these kinds of general/vague terms, but just wonder what they could be advising that might be considered valuable. it's a bit like advising people how they can best enjoy a rollercoaster.

to me, it seems like if you take a quick stroll in any direction in the sukhumvit area, you're gonna have a hard time avoiding places where action is. and it's not like there's places rep001tered around that are going to prey on newcomers, more like the opposite. i mean, ok, avoid the taxi touts tryign to usher you to massage places... but is that piece of pretty obvious info worth staying a bit far from the action for?[/quote]easy one to answer

i spent some time with the manager and he told me how to get around. he told me how to get to places such as tulip and other palaces of pleasure. he also told me what bars i should try and the ones to avoid. he also pointed out that i should not spend all my evenings in the sports bar, but should get out and about. i managed to have a very full week taht was fun from beginning to end. never had to waste time or money on "dud" places.

it was my first time and i have seen similar comments from other first timers. i really do not see why some of you are so argumentative. i consider the place offers good service and a nice clean room for, what i think is, a reasonable price.

if you cannot see the benefits of the lodge and the reason why they get so much repeat business then that is your problem. no one elses!

bb

[QUOTE=Sirnoir]Third trip to BBK, and not too much has changed in 4 years!

After taking limo from Airport (BMW 7-Series for 2, 200Bht), settled in a the Grand Sukhumvit on Soi 6, but it really might as well be on Soi 4 as it is SO close to the NEP on 4. Unfortunately they did insist on charging me for a full extra night even though my arrival was at 5am. Was hoping for more of a break. 500Bht for Internet seems excesive and I will probably try somewhere else next time, but a nice hotel none the less. Used theor web site to book so I could upgrade the room. Problem with wholesalers is that you always get the smallest room, and not necessarily for ay less than booking direct.

Culd not help my self and headed right ot to start the fun. Fund a very beautiful girl, and got half way back to the hotel before realizing was a LB. Why do they often look the best! So. Had to chase that one away.

Next day headed to Teen Massage on Soi 24/1 about 1pm, had an OK time, but I think I would have rather tried one of the oter ones. Rooms very ugly and not all that clean.

By 7pm not sure I was ready to go again but was near Soi Cowboy so decided to stop in at Bacaraca. What luck! Almost immediately spotted two beautiful young ones just size (short, small breasts and very thin). I picked them out in part because they were having fun with each other, and seemed to have the most energy on the upstairs dance floor in spite of a small crowd. This has always been a good approach for me, to look for those that seem to have the most interest and enthusasism. Some of them are SO not into what they are doing. Not that I can blame them, must be tough to keep up energy level hour after hour. Anyway, invited them for a drink and they almost immediately proposed. And off to my hotel room we were! Fa and Be were their names. Love those school girl outfits. BF 600Bht and 1, 500Bht for ST each. Very fun and willing, and although probably not exactly bi-sexual, they made the moves necessary to make it a very enjoyable few hours.

I gave Fa my card on the way out, and told her I wanted her to call me the next day and cme spend the night with me. Did it on the side so as to not offend the second girl. Fa was just a bit more pretty and loved her work.

Next day I had arranged with [url]www.escortgirlsbangkok.com[/url] to have Hana come to my room at 9am.

This girl was probably the gem of my trip. Personality, language, beauty. She had it all. She was from Chang Mai and unfortunately was going out of town the next day otherwise I would probably have had her return. Many times.

Later in the day tried Annies for a soappy massage. Never did a soapy on my first two trips. Sad to say, was abit of a dissapointment. Place was just not all that much of a turn on. Again, kind of dirty and very plain. I think I shoudl have gone to the effort to go to Emmanuels or Posidion. Not that I have been to these, but my research seemed to indicate that these had a better quality of service and a little better facilities.

That night, as I said Fa for the night.

Needing a day off, I headed to Siam Paragon for a little shopping, and a movie in one of those great 600bht movie seats. Love them! Also visited my favorite market Pak Khlong Market. Look it up in any guide book. If you like to cook, you will e facinated by being able to walk through the stalls of families processing frest fruits, vegetables and flowers.

Also on one of these earlier days I made a visit to the weekend market to buy silks (they pack so well) for gifts for those at home. I recommend this as a great day out if you are around on a weekend.

For my last night I ordered a duo of Nok and June from [url]www.Bangkokgoldescorts.com[/url]

Wile expensive, I wanted a no hassle experience. Nice Lingeire and toys. A bit mechanical, but a part of that was my fault. Wile I loved the A-level from Nok, June was the beauty of the two. Would absolutely see June again.

And here I sit, working out a girl from one of the services for tmorrow morning 8am just before my flights back!

Over all I was dissapointed in one of my wanders through NEP. Seemed dirtyier and seedier than last time, and far to many Lady Boys. I think I am more of a Soi Cowboy fan. But the debate will always rage back and forth on this form of NEP versus Cowboy. Try them both see what you like! NEP strikes me more of a place to do a lot of drinking, which I do not do.

I like the escort services and had good luck, but to each their own!

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Nice report! You ought to post the relevant passages in the "Bangkok Escort Agencies" thread.

[QUOTE=Sirnoir]Wile expensive, I wanted a no hassle experience. Nice Lingeire and toys. A bit mechanical, but a part of that was my fault. Wile I loved the A-level from Nok, June was the beauty of the two. Would absolutely see June again.[/QUOTE]

Though I'll have a meeting myself with Nok and Or in about 2 weeks from now, could you please tell me what the "problem" was there and why you thought it was "a bit mechanical"?

Maybe you experience can help me out for my own meeting

Angels disco is open again in the Nana hotel, now called Liquid --- free entry at the moment.

Has anyone visited Soi 22 lately? It use to be my favorite downtown monger station. Tina's Place was always good for a back/foot massage from four of the girls before you got serious on one. Best one in there use to be Lai, from Monkey province. She was my first truly shaved pussies. Loved to eat from her altar and she was equally respondent. Always a nice selection of girls from all over Thailand. Papason was good to me and let me take them next door to the guesthouse for all night.Then there's the Texas Lone Starr. They had a Chiang Mai broad in there I use to take upstairs or home to my apartment in Banglamphu. Good head artist. I never cared for Patpong nor that other hole on Sukhumvit. Too commercial.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee]Though I'll have a meeting myself with Nok and Or in about 2 weeks from now, could you please tell me what the "problem" was there and why you thought it was "a bit mechanical"?

Maybe you experience can help me out for my own meeting[/QUOTE]

Sirnoir

I wouldn't mind a little additional info on Nok as well, as I have been considering splurging (overpaying, actually) on her A-level service as well during my upcoming trip to LOS next month. Is she at least cute? How was her attitude?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Angels disco is open again in the Nana hotel, now called Liquid --- free entry at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Would be good to see a current (as in, this week) report -- someone on another forum visited a few weeks back and reported it wasn't too active, but that was when it first opened.

It's literally ACROSS THE STREET from Nana Plaza, and in the back of the Nana hotel, not exactly a hike across the city to visit. Free entry.

Can someone just go poke their head inside (it'd take, what, 5 minutes?) and describe what you see?

I'm out of Thailand now. Curious to hear whether it's picking up or not.

In its heydey (90s/early 00's) this was a very happening place. Maybe the MOST happening.

I won't say this was a [i]sentimental[/i] journey (you'll understand why when you know the destination), but one I had wanted to make for awhile. Must be heat delirium...

Way back when, first time I came to Bangkok, I never knew about this forum. Might have existed, but that was in the early days of the commercial internet. If there were internet cafes around, they were few and far between.

I don't know where I picked up the info, but somehow I knew that Patpong's Rose bar was a [i]legit[/i], "legit" being the Thai "legit", upstairs bar that was "safe" - not a ripoff, and offered bj's. Unfortunately, because my source's knowledge was limited to a grain of sand, the SOL, while only 20 m away, was, in effect, light years away, as I did not know it existed.

So one early evening way back when, set out, made my way up the stairs, and had the "Rose" experience. Back then, it was so [u]LONG[/u] ago, they actually had dancers (well, more like shufflers) on the stage. Over the years, I'd occassionaly stumble back, late afternoons even, to have the couple of girls on duty roused by the bell as I climbed the stairs, pick one, get taken care of, and leave. Sleeze it was.

Hadn't been there in a LONG, LONG time, but had passed it several times while visiting Patpong on this trip. Honestly surprised to see it still there; how do they pay the rent? So after a trip to MBK, decided to take the skytrain (what a difference it makes, no planning required) over to Patpong, and see what was up at the Rose. Age having given me a bit of common sense, discretion over valor and all that, decided AGAINST an afternoon visit, would make it early evening...

Walked by, the permanent tout sitting in the chair outside the entrance, opening the door to the BLACKNESS, enticing you with a "Come inside, have girls". Asked how much a Singha was - you never know, maybe some nefarious organization had taken it over, turned it into a ripoff bar. No, same nefarious sleeze org. "Beer 90 baht, go up, see."

The same bell alerted the girls as I walked up the dark stairs, the bell that, if slowed down, would actually be clanging out "Abandon hope all ye who enter here". That long climb where you're thinking, what the f*ck am I doing? And if I stumble, fall, die, do I really want an obituary saying WHERE I met my end? Somehow, that stairway is hexed - it's impossible to turn around until you reach the top. It's like the void beckons you on...

Hadn't changed a bit. Made sure of the Singha price, 90 baht. Instead of taking my beer at the bar, took it over to a table. There is a reason they keep it barely lit. Immediately surrounded by ladies (girl is someone under 25, and these weren't girls in my book). They're advertising the availability of a bj - I say I know, I've been here before, and I point out the room[b]s[/b]... Mamasan, well maybe not THE mamasan, waitress, whatever, she mentions that she remembers me (yea right), no true, she's worked there 20 years (certainly one of the lower levels of Dante's Inferno), must have started in her 30's. The "service" costs 800 baht.

Mamasan gives me the [i]"opportunity"[/i] to buy everyone a drink, "Only buy 1 round"... Hmmm, I don't want to engender that much good will at the Rose, given I'm planning on measuring my time here in 1/4 hours...

She then explains there are "only" 6 girls to pick from as it's early... Which is 3 more than I expected... But it then slowly dawns on me, one to my right, one to my left, one squatting underneath the table, 2 more to the left of the lady on my left, and, and, and,... The girl to my left has her hand up my shorts leg, the girl under the table is rubbing my lower crotch, the girl to the right is rubbing my upper crotch, but there's ANOTHER hand up my right shorts leg... WTF? It's the "20 years of service" Mamasan. She's the 6th [u]girl[/u]? :yikes:

Well, maybe she is clever after 20 years, because this now crystal clear realization focuses my attention on the matter at hand (as in removal) so I immediately make [u]the[/u] decision of which one I'll take to the back room (which also hasn't changed; well, at least they're saving money by not renovating; must be going for that nostalgic look). No dilly-dallying around NOW. Average looking, but in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed woman is queen...

Given that the major leaguers are at the SOL, the minors have to be somewhere. Plus they have the "ambiance" of that back room to [i]encourage[/i] you to finish up and get the hell out of there. I'm wondering if bedbugs are an issue...

It's about as good as it gets at the Rose, which is a shadow of the SOL. She's topless; I have no interest in seeing anything else... at least the light is DIM, she's busy... No "think baseball" here to delay [i]departure[/i]... My mind's stuck on the bedbug question...

Goal achieved, I return to the bar, finish my beer, get the check: 890. With the change from my 1000, 10 to the bar, 100 to the lady... minor league ball can be so depressing... and out the door. I do get a warm thank you from the tout at the bottom.

And that's actually the worst part - you just don't want to be seen by anyone coming OUT of the Rose, not even COMPLETE STRANGERS... I'm looking around for the villagers with the pitchforks and torches, pointing and shouting "Unclean, Unclean"... I quickly cut in and out of the night market rows, hoping to throw off any trailing ghosts...

Not for the faint of heart.
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Postscript:
Figuring I'd lost any accusing eyes of where I'd just been, thought I'd stop and have a beer, and ponder my decisions of the last 30 minutes... If the Buddhists are right, I'm hoping to come back as high as an ant... The outside King's corners (and there do seem to be 4 of them), look promising, until I stop, put on the reading glasses, and look at the beer prices. 130 baht?

OK, better than the Nana's rip-off of, what is it, 145, 140 inside the bars... But come on, I know I can get a Singha for 100 baht [u]inside[/u] a King's Patpong bar. Granted, the outside bar provides a view of the passing masses (not so massive these days), but it's hot outside. Inside, the beer's cheaper, you can watch some dancers (well, shufflers), and at least there is a/c. Not so effective, given the wide open door, but still better than outside. I just don't understand the pricing structure...

Inside I go. Miss Spinner is not there, which is fine, I can't pull (if for no other reason than the Rose's experience has made my "lower" self withdraw into itself, perhaps not physically, but "emotionally?" ), and saves me the cost of a lady drink.

While having my beer, I see another VERY comely lass "suiting" up, the string bikini top being securely tied at her back by the attractive mamasan. I'm impressed, just something erotic about that, even if my lower self isn't, still cowering in lingering fear. And secure it must be, for this girl is "built".

Up on the stage she goes, not by the rear stairs, but by a leggy (and she does have a PAIR of those) bar stool climb, to the pride of position, right in front, a true enticement to anyone passing. And she does know how to move... OK, not the acrobatics of last decade's Miss Dancer at the G-Spot (one of my major regrets in life, never pulling her, but I'd always buy her a drink just because she was so enjoyable to watch). Still, orders of magnitude above the mere shufflers accompanying her on stage. She even knew how to use a pole.

She gets a phone call, and the dismount gets an 8.0 from this judge. Brief conversation, the remount, and she continues some very NICE moves - she's got the pelvic thrusts, the rotating rear down pat. She catches me watching her - hell, for me, the only show on stage, and I get a nice smile, some pelvic thrusts in my direction, a few squats...

I'm impressed. Check my watch; damn, have to move, obligations to meet. OK, beer almost finished, and I'm enjoying the (her) show. When our eyes meet again, I make the universal sign for a drink - I'll buy her a lady drink.

Which has the exact OPPOSITE effect I've intended: she IMMEDIATELY does a pole dismount (another 8.0), and comes over, STOPPING the show. My lapse in years here and I've forgotten - wasn't it a girl still had to do her dance shift if she was with someone? Or was that only if she didn't have a lady drink? OK, no other customers there, so maybe it's a moot point. Get a nice smile, she gets her 2 oz, 100 baht coke. Up close, she looks good; I figure she won't last long, someone will be spiriting her away.

A mamasan brings over a folder card, opens it, and it's a price list for "takeaway". I really can't make out the numbers, given I've got my reading glasses on, she's that close, but the card is too far away. I don't bother putting on my driving glasses as I know, tonight, the prices are moot, and sometime in the future, I won't care what they are - some prices MUST be paid.

Still being crass, inquiring minds want to know, and all that, I ask if "[i]they[/i]" are from her mother, or from a hospital. She looks at me with one of those "that's a stupid question" looks you'd get in school. "From mama; real, you want to touch?" which is not really a question as she grabs my hand and places it on one of the "[i]twins[/i]". Yep, real, nice and soft. A genuine 36C if I understood her correctly. Like I said, a SECURE tie of the bikini top MANDATORY to keep those from escaping while dancing.

I curse my luck; it's Cinderella time, and I must make my way home. Another time, which is a real drag, as now there are 2 at the King's bar on my to-do list. She shrugs, I head towards the door, she to the back. OK, sure, I'm under NO illusion that it's anything but BUSINESS, but sometimes, she is COMPELLING, you just have to see her at the end of your nard (to quote Sporadic).

Skytrain, on my way home. What the hey, I'll make a brief stop at the Nana station, over to the Soi 7 Bier Garten to take a recce of what's on offer at the 9 o'clock evening hour. One lime (why they call it "lemon" I DON'T know) juice as a nightcap, and I'll be on my way.

Place is crowded, no "real" room at the main bar, only a couple of "Foodland lunch-counter" spots. 65%/45% F/M, but that's relative. In my brief walk-around, nothing jumped out (well, a few did, but for the WRONG reasons).

Home it is. Just as I reached the entrance, departing, here comes a FL I know, arriving. She's a sweet girl, fun to talk with. She always remembers me, and the conversations we've had. Attractive, but just not enough to [b]MY[/b] lower self, even though I know she'd give a real GFE. She reminds me of a Dubai Seaview PRC - they could be cousins, fun to talk with, just never got around to "knowing". Don't quite know why that is, why some you take, and some attractive ones, just not attractive enough, even with a great personality (and that's not the 'she has a great personality' slight).

She asks where I'm headed. "Home." She grabs my arm, "Don't believe." "No, really, no seats inside." True and true statements. But she's having none of it. Fine, I will have my nightcap, and buy her a drink. [Note: now I've briefly forgotten that this is not the same as in a bar: there, a lady drink EARNS her money; here, a drink is just a drink. But it will give her something in front of her while she looks for a customer.]

Lo and Behold, we spot 2 adjacent seats at the main bar. We sit, I order a lime juice, so does she. She leans close, and whispers, "I'm a little bit drunk."

"Danger Will Robinson" alarms start to go off - almost 2 DECADES later, I still remember my first bg regular, a mean drunk, and I do mean MEAN. Frighting; several times I'd put her in a taxi, hand the driver a couple 100 baht, and tell him to take her wherever she wanted to go. Now, Miss Friend is PROBABLY not like that, but I AM familiar with drunk bg logic... And it's not a pretty sight.

Drinks come, and I IMMEDIATELY start on mine. No need to delay here. She looks around, and comes to a similar "ratio" conclusion as I had, but from HER point of view: "too many ladies, too few man; not good for business." I continue to drink.

"Last night, you take lady, not take me..." Yep, I DON'T like the way this is headed, could turn into "Nasty (and not the good nasty) Street" anytime. I drink faster. "You take lady, only give me small money..."

Guess the old cliche IS true: no good deed goes unpunished. Previous night, before I'd really gotten started talking to Miss Pull, Miss Friend had taken a seat on the other side of her. I bought Miss Pull a drink as we discussed "things", and I considered buying Miss Friend a round, but I knew it would just be a drink. Besides, I wanted to finish the requirements spec, quickly sign the contract, and be on my way to implementation. Deal made, but got a slight sting from Miss Pull on departure. On her arrival, she'd ordered a beer. Now, on our departure, besides the drink I'd specifically bought her, she was having the waiter put the beer on my tab too. Not enough for me to say anything, not wanting to dampen the financial ardor I'd just purchased, but still... Just a little splinter... And Miss Friend CERTAINLY understood what had happened.

Feeling a touch guilty with respect to Miss Friend, I'd slipped her a 100 as I walked past. Would pay for her drink, or she could use for taxi money. Up to her, but it was hard cash.

I could feel the turn onto Nasty Street coming up... Now, I'm gulping the lime juice, bitterness be damned. Suddenly, a detour. "I only joking..." Whooo. But then, it's the intoxicated logic that I dread, that narrow focus... "Today, several men buy me drinks: 4 wines, some beer, 2 whiskeys, but no business." OK, if I'd drunk that mix, I'd be puking my guts out in the gutter (low alcohol tolerance). Her, it's just "focused" her reasoning facilities... "No business. I no have money..."

OK, there NEVER was an 11Bravo BG charity fund, contrary to some beliefs. Certainly a drink for some I enjoy, and I've purchased many a bg's company, but it's always been cash and carry (or should that be 'carry and cash'?) No installment plans for future "considerations"

I say, "Oh, look, my drink's finished. Have to go; bye." "Where you go? You take lady! [THAT is not a question, but a statement.] You not take me."

MAYBE it's just my imagination, but is she slowly metamorphosing into an octopus, with grasping tentacles? Is this my karma payback for the Rose escapade, so soon? [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1002504&postcount=9572[/url]

"No, I go home. Now." Yes, those are encircling tentacles. I break free, both figuratively, and literally (the confined bar stool space). I see an opening, and lunge towards it. Open space never looked so good. Her "no customers" observation follows me...

I'm sure the next time I see her, she'll be her old, sunny self, but, lesson learned, I will confine my Bier Garten drinking to earlier in the day.

Narrow escape indeed.

Bravo indeed - superb set of reports! I hope to read more. Rose sounds like a dive - I must try it one day, if I gather the courage and the bedbug repellent.