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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2148393]After my visit last night to Babylon, and after talking to a number of guys there about the mongering scene in Germany now, it seems that more and more girls are now only offering basic fuck and suck (CBJ) for 50/30 or 60/30 in Hamburg and or Berlin. There are, obviously, some exceptions- E. G. Maya in Harmony. And to get what used to be the full GFE for 50/30 before the July 1st law of 2017 it is now increasingly common for girls to want 100 (or 120 -150 in Hamburg and Berlin). This had all of us thinking out aloud that it now might make more sense to go to Switzerland as at least in Globe for 140 CHF you are guaranteed DFK, UCBJ, sex and full 30 minutes in the zimmer. Yes there are exceptions and if you opt to go for an hour you can get amazing services still in Germany but the cost differential isn't much anymore. The only main success of the New Law has been to drive prices up. The girls say they love it. A typical visit used to cost me about 500 euros per visit to a club with about 3-4 girls for an hour with DFK, UCMJ, sometimes CIM, sometimes NS included. Now with the new law for the same things I am paying nearly a 1000.[/QUOTE]That is what I say few months ago as well about Globe.
However, I still manage to get BBBJ and condom sex and sometimes DATY session for basic 50 euro per 30 min, not for all girls though. Funny, this used to be standard normal thing to get.
Well as long as I get BBBJ session for one hour then for me it is still fine, but one thing I hate in Germany is that one hour is like 40 min or 45 min, at least girls try to do that. So when I think about it, globe seems less problematic when it comes to session without special extras or fetish.
Having said that, for all included like DFK, BBBJ, GFE, DATY etc session, I still used to pay like 150 euro per one hour at clubs like artemis or palace before the law kicks in, so as long as I get that, for me it is still fine, but problem is now girls ask 200 euro for this kind of session.
Guys, boycott the extreme up sell bitte! LOL.
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Hamburg clubs have been bad in service and high in price ever since they opened. Nothing new on that front. Same applies to Artemis IMHO. And yes, still many girls will give better service to regulars.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148569]Hamburg clubs have been bad in service and high in price ever since they opened. Nothing new on that front. Same applies to Artemis IMHO. And yes, still many girls will give better service to regulars.[/QUOTE]Many of German stunners I had in German FKK are from hamburg regions and they were all upsell. But since they were all stunners and claim to be from hamburg. I have to go to the source of them, I got to go to hamburg FKK LOL.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148569]Hamburg clubs have been bad in service and high in price ever since they opened. Nothing new on that front. Same applies to Artemis IMHO. And yes, still many girls will give better service to regulars.[/QUOTE]Babylon Hamburg is not Harmony Seevetal or Atmos.
I know a bit about Hessen, NRW, Prestige Neunkirchen, YY and 6 ens NL, Switzerland, Wellcum and Andiamo, and in Hamburg You can find great beauties You don t find anymore at Sharks among 100 GND, and also some great GFE girls, like Elena from Nederland at Atmos who became so passionate for sex. Like Switzerland is higher level than Sharks or Oase for GFE sex, only LR and a few real women at GT or YY can compete.
Hamburg is just more expensive than NRW, but not always than Hessen. 120 for 1 hour at Harmony, 150 for 1 very GFE hour at Atmos, but some GND ask same rate at Sharks or Oase, when I had a real German beauty Linda on this Friday. I had also real beauty Bambi. De for 120 for 1 hour on beginning of September.
Unfortunately, so many works on autobahn to Hamburg.
I don't think Hessen is on top for sex level in FKK land at the moment, even Oase seem to improve and worth for a few beauties. Higher casting for me than Sharks, even less girls.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148569]Hamburg clubs have been bad in service and high in price ever since they opened. Nothing new on that front. Same applies to Artemis IMHO. And yes, still many girls will give better service to regulars.[/QUOTE]Pardon me, but I received outstanding service at Babylon Hamburg and at Atmos. I did not session at Harmony, but Siri has reported that the one girl there I found to be really attractive (Bambi) was a weak fuck. So, glad I skipped her. My intuitions were right! But, things went very, very well for me at the other two "majors" in the Hamburg area.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2148913]Pardon me, but I received outstanding service at Babylon Hamburg and at Atmos. I did not session at Harmony, but Siri has reported that the one girl there I found to be really attractive (Bambi) was a weak fuck. So, glad I skipped her. My intuitions were right! But, things went very, very well for me at the other two "majors" in the Hamburg area.[/QUOTE]Your sessions were 150€ plus each. That's why.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148970]Your sessions were 150 plus each. That's why.[/QUOTE]But situation is not giving us too much of choices does it LOL.
It is sellers market after all. For me 150 I do not mind for one hour all included, 200 euro they are pushing it.
I do miss days I paid 50 or 60 euro per 30 min and got it all.
I kept on saying this before the law and every one was attacking me LOL I told you!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2148913]Pardon me, but I received outstanding service at Babylon Hamburg and at Atmos. I did not session at Harmony, but Siri has reported that the one girl there I found to be really attractive (Bambi) was a weak fuck. So, glad I skipped her. My intuitions were right! But, things went very, very well for me at the other two "majors" in the Hamburg area.[/QUOTE]I never wrote my room with superb Bambi. De was bad at Harmony. I stayed for 1 hour for Harmony rate: 120 for 1 hour, not a great kisser, but lovely behavior, willing to please and great stamina for sex. If I see her again, for sure I will repeat with her, for her Swedish face, eyes and smile.
Nicole is a real GFE at Harmony, my little mum was a passionate GFE on September, but too many lies after.
Yes, 1 GFE hour in Hamburg is 120/150 , more expensive than NRW, but not always more expensive than in Hessen.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2148904]I don't think Hessen is on top for sex level in FKK land at the moment, even Oase seem to improve and worth for a few beauties. Higher casting for me than Sharks, even less girls.[/QUOTE]Problem with sharks is that it has too many non regular girls. Especially among the tops. For me at least. At Oase the top girls are around more often.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148970]Your sessions were 150 plus each. That's why.[/QUOTE]I was able to negotiate hour-long session prices on par with the Hessen clubs. Worked for me as I got what I paid for. Quality sucks and fucks in Hamburg from a very ethnically diverse selection of girls. If I could do and get that, then so too can somebody else.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2148711]Many of German stunners I had in German FKK are from hamburg regions and they were all upsell. But since they were all stunners and claim to be from hamburg. I have to go to the source of them, I got to go to hamburg FKK LOL.[/QUOTE]Harmony and Atmos really worth a try on Friday and Saturday, if You are not a everything for 50 € guy. Not the standard in Hamburg, even You can have 60 € quite good rooms at Harmony.
About 20 girls in each club on week end, but I could have gone with 5 girls at Harmony on last Friday. Only with Elena. NL at Atmos, with a disappointing casting compare to my previous visits. At Atmos, like with some girls at Sharks or Oase, 150 for 1 h GFE room.
Yes, many German girls in NRW, come from Hamburg. Some German girls working in Hamburg come from Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2146184]I will be in Samya on Saturday, March 10. No messe in Koeln between Mar 3 through Mar 23. Big loud ottoman-pop-music Saturday night party, dancing girls, hard to navigate crowded space, likely 30 min or longer waiting times past midnight. All this lovely stuff. PM me if you'd like to meet up.[/QUOTE]It would be good to meet with friends there but it looks like my schedule postponed for a week. I am planning to be in Germany at 15-18 March.
I have a strong desire to be in Oase and I think it is the best among nowadays after Sharks getting down. I will be missing Shark's Jacuzzi sessions. Is there a recovery on Sharks line up since two months? Flight tickets through Germany is doubled for this period. I really didn't understand why.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2148970]Your sessions were 150 plus each. That's why.[/QUOTE]With the exception of Babylon in Hamburg, I have received superb service at clubs in Hamburg especially Harmony and Atmos. 150 for an hour is not much if you want BBBJ included. I think the new law has had this effect of making most girls charge for it but in the Hamburg clubs rarely has it been refused (even in Babylon). If you want to pay 50 euros and get BBBJ, DFK, GFE sex that's rare anyware now although I did get that precisely from a girl in Harmony for 60 euros. For me in terms of variety and beauty of girls, both Atmos and Harmony have 9's and 10's of a stunner level quality equal to the best anywhere (and for me stunner usually means no fake silicone, gazelle like, slim tall beauties in their early 20's to mid 20's.) Girls of the beauty level of Martha or Larissa (Harmony) or perfect 10 Sina and her identical twin Aida (at Atmos) or sweet Flori (Atmos) or fresh-faced 18 year old Shirin in Atmos. Such beauties are jewels I've found here.
It depends on what services you want. I normally leave out such intimate details with girls in my reports but if a girl lets me fuck the shit out of her (literally) for 2 hours, blows me uncovered, spits in my mouth, gives me her champagne, bites me so hard to almost draw blood, licks my arsehole, gags on my cock so hard and deep that she throws up but is willing to carry on. And finally lets me cum in her mouth. All that for 350 euros is pretty damn good if you ask me. Don't ask me the girl but it happened to me multiple times in both Atmos and Harmony with different girls. It really depends what services you want. The various types of showers of colours yellow and brown and made famous by the Romans are all available if you want. I've never been to a club in Hesse or around NRW where such things were so freely available if one wanted them! But should I expect to pay 50 euros for all that and then complain if the girls say no? Only if I am an idiot and a cheapskate.
Sure if I just want a normal fuck with DFK, DATY and BBBJ and the girls try to charge me extra for DFK and DATY (charging extra for BBBJ is normal now as its prohibited) then I will feel ripped off but otherwise I think too many people complain. The days of 50/60 for all these or 30 minutes (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions) are mostly over whether in Sharks or in Hamburg! Sure there will always be exceptions. For me paying 150 for the hour and getting all of these guaranteed is good value for money. (It's still less than Globe by a lot if one compares an hour session but for 30 minute sessions its now probably on a par and that's fine).
Each person is different.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2148556]That is what I say few months ago as well about Globe.
Well as long as I get BBBJ session for one hour then for me it is still fine...
Having said that, for all included like DFK, BBBJ, GFE, DATY etc session, I still used to pay like 150 euro per one hour at clubs like artemis or palace before the law kicks in, so as long as I get that, for me it is still fine....
[/QUOTE]Exactly this. As long as I can get all this for about 150 for an hour I'm happy.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2149230]It would be good to meet with friends there but it looks like my schedule postponed for a week. I am planning to be in Germany at 15-18 March.
I have a strong desire to be in Oase and I think it is the best among nowadays after Sharks getting down. I will be missing Shark's Jacuzzi sessions. Is there a recovery on Sharks line up since two months? Flight tickets through Germany is doubled for this period. I really didn't understand why.[/QUOTE]I saw girls in jacuzzi with guys at Oase.