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[QUOTE=*****man;1543834]Tumblr doesn't remove "risque" content. There's plenty of porn on tumblr so there must be another reason.[/QUOTE]Learned something new. Thanks, Still down. Glad I got a peak. She has a cute face, but her middle is a bit thick and her breast a bit small for my tastes. Regardless, she seems like one hell of a kinky lady.
[QUOTE=Western787;1543415]I don't really quite understand all negative responses either. Seems to me you made what should have been considered a joke in regard to getting a cook, and she either didn't understand it or found no humor in it.[/QUOTE]Indeed Western787, I fully expected her to reply with mock indignation "Wife better than cook" to which I'd say with a sly grin "Show me what cook cannot do" and it was game on. But sometimes attempts at humor do not translate well across cultures.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1543422]But I suppose my point was how to stay on top of the situation so you don't get fleeced, or even just have a bad experience. Me, I'm light and frothy and fun on the surface, but a hard-nosed bastard underneath. Most girls like me but a few who push too far see the less attractive depths, and we don't see each other again.[/QUOTE]Agreed Mouse1 the old iron hand in a velvet glove is surely the best way to interact with them.
[QUOTE=*****man;1543459]It's just a game you've got to play and Eric didn't play it very well. He could have just said his name was Julius Caesar and he was in the military hardware business and yes of course she could be his wife. She wouldn't have had a clue what he was talking about but would have felt happy nonetheless. Having said that the girl should have given him better service and not let her personal feelings get in the way.[/QUOTE]WGman, this is the time to quote Lenny:
You win some, lose some, it's all the same to me.
The pleasure is to play, it makes no difference what you say.
Going with the flow, it's all a game to me.
[QUOTE=11Bravo;1543857]For a LONG time, I've used a historical nickname that a wg gave me; just makes it easier to remember (and, back in the OLD days, some gogo girls, hanging around outside, might be so uncool to call out your name as you walk past, regardless of who you're with. Having a fake persona just makes plausible deniability so much easier.) Just the other day, I found it easier to spell my "name" as the lady in question was having a hard time with understanding the subtle differences with other similar (well to her, anyway) names, though I often use the historical reference to make it easier. In Thailand, I'm always married to a Thai lady, always responding "have to be careful, don't want her to feed the ducks" (Thai equivalent of Lorena Bobbit - Google is your friend). "But maybe [i]me noi? [/i]" (Thai for a 2nd wife). She'll most likely find it amusing, though your Thai wife will NOT.[/QUOTE]11Bravo, saying I have a wife is an intriguing idea. Is there any specific advantage to making this hypothetical wife Thai, as opposed to Korean for example?
[QUOTE=Eric Swiss;1544055]11Bravo, saying I have a wife is an intriguing idea. Is there any specific advantage to making this hypothetical wife Thai, as opposed to Korean for example?[/QUOTE]Women in general are constantly trying to suss out whether you'd make a good mate, which for them means a protector and provider. If you say you're married then she knows another woman has already done the hard work in establishing you are a good mate. The fact that she's a Thai woman makes it easier for her to relate to. Personally I prefer to say I have a Thai girlfriend because you're dangling a little bit of hope in her face that you might want a new girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Eric Swiss;1544055]Indeed Western787, I fully expected her to reply with mock indignation "Wife better than cook" to which I'd say with a sly grin "Show me what cook cannot do" and it was game on. But sometimes attempts at humor do not translate well across cultures.[/QUOTE]Given you had posted her English was excellent, I'd be willing to bet what she heard was "you're good enough to be my servant, but not my wife", with the "marriage is expensive" reiterating that she wasn't worth it. Total misunderstanding, but... When Asians in general, Thais in particular, lose face, it can take quite a lot to get them over it, but it can be done. Of course, in a bar, if she doesn't get over it, you can always move on; in an MP, bit more difficult. You get a bad rep somewhere, it can be a bit of a hurdle to overcome: (sure others have better phonetic pronunciation hints)[list][*]Every woman likes to be called "beautiful" = "sue-Y" (pronounce the Y as the letter).[*]"Yim Sue-Y" is beautiful smile, something Thai's take great pride in.[*]Her response may very well be "Bag wan", which is "sweet mouth" = flatterer; of course, which you deny ("My, ching ching" = no, true).[*]Last resort, my experience, most Thais are ticklish ("tak-a-tee").[/list]If you've ever watched any Thai TV (ugh) , or been taken to a Thai club with stage show (fun) , then easy to understand that Thai's love slapstick. When I'm bantering with a Thai, I always use exaggerated facial expressions and hand movements, just as insurance that it's all in fun. Can help reduce misunderstandings.
[QUOTE=Eric Swiss;1544055]11Bravo, saying I have a wife is an intriguing idea. Is there any specific advantage to making this hypothetical wife Thai, as opposed to Korean for example?[/QUOTE]I say wife because I don't dangle any false hopes, and Thai because it shows you like Thai women, as well as she's most likely "here". The 2nd wife (me noi) , we'd say mistress, well known concept here, and more acceptable than the west. It also serves, for those whose number you get for future contacts (more FL's) , she won't be calling, maybe an sms, as she won't want trouble from the wife (I'm too cheap for dual sim's, and can't be bothered to be switching them out).
BTW: I'm always here for a month, regardless of visit length. Long enough for repeat business to be a possibility, but easy to explain, on a subsequent visit, that I ran out of time. Likewise, I never say exactly where I'm staying if I'm talking to an MP or someone who'll I use a ST hotel with, instead using a generic neighborhood. Sure, you can say Sukhumvit, but most all in the area will be VERY familiar with the hotels (where you stay providing a [u]BIG[/u] clue as to how fat (or thin) your wallet is). I just say Thong Lo or Ekamai. Most will let it slide; if pursued, just say "apartment" (these areas overrun with falangs now, Thong Lo and Ekamai both very gentrified.) And they seem far enough away that that ST hotel looks real good.
[QUOTE=11Bravo;1544241][list][*]Every woman likes to be called "beautiful"."sue-Y" (pronounce the Y as the letter).[*]"Yim Sue-Y" is beautiful smile, something Thai's take great pride in.[*]Her response may very well be "Bag wan", which is "sweet mouth". Flatterer, of course, which you deny ("My").[*]Last resort, my experience, most Thais are ticklish (tak-a-tee).[/list]If you've ever watched any Thai TV (ugh) , or been taken to a Thai club with stage show (fun) , then easy to understand that Thai's love slapstick. When I'm bantering with a Thai, I always use exaggerated facial expressions and hand movements, just as insurance that it's all in fun.[/QUOTE]That's just going to make you look like all the other lame punters. And it's better to speak no Thai at all than to attempt to speak it with incomprehensible pronunciation. We're talking about getting a suck and fuck in a brothel here. As long as you're reasonably considerate it's pretty difficult to screw things up.
[QUOTE=11Bravo; 1544241[list][*]Every woman likes to be called "beautiful" = "sue-Y" (pronounce the Y as the letter).[*]"Yim Sue-Y" is beautiful smile, something Thai's take great pride in.[*]Her response may very well be "Bag wan", which is "sweet mouth" = flatterer; of course, which you deny ("My, ching ching" = no, true).[*]Last resort, my experience, most Thais are ticklish ("tak-a-tee").[/list]If you've ever watched any Thai TV (ugh) , or been taken to a Thai club with stage show (fun) , then easy to understand that Thai's love slapstick. When I'm bantering with a Thai, I always use exaggerated facial expressions and hand movements, just as insurance that it's all in fun. Can help reduce misunderstandings.
I[/QUOTE]As soneone said on Stickman's reader submission, when a westerner speaks Thai, especially really well, its sounds and looks kind of "fruity" And that's the impression I've gotten too.
I was recently called the Thai term for 'sweet mouth' by some cutie type / univ student / part-timer after spontaneously rattling off a bunch of complements after running into her a 2nd time. She had to use the google translator to explain what she meant. Actually the compilments were legit. These non-stunner "cute" low 8's (as I might describe them) are not only are somewhat plentiful in Bangkok, but often seem to not always get how attractive they are by western standards.
[QUOTE=*****man;1544248]That's just going to make you look like all the other lame punters. And it's better to speak no Thai at all than to attempt to speak it with incomprehensible pronunciation. We're talking about getting a suck and fuck in a brothel here. As long as you're reasonably considerate it's pretty difficult to screw things up.[/QUOTE][list][*]No, I look like me, and if some consider me lame, fine, as many don't.[*]With the limited Thai I have, I don't have any trouble being understood (it's the phonetic spelling I struggle over).[*]I don't know, you might want to refer to Eric Swiss's post that started this.[/list]Two other phrases:[list][*]My ou (as in the first part of OUch). "Don't want." Example: In Pantip, when some guy sticks a porno movie cover in your face.
[*]My pie. "I don't go". Example: Walking along Suk, at a street corner, when that tuk-tuk driver sticks the MP brochure in your face.[/list]My pronunciation or the translation might not be exact, but close enough that they figure I've been around, and [u]immediately[/u] leave me alone. Or maybe they find me totally incomprehensible and immediately leave me alone. Either way, fine by me. :)
[QUOTE=Western787;1544266]I was recently called the Thai term for 'sweet mouth' by some cutie type / univ student / part-timer after spontaneously rattling off a bunch of complements after running into her a 2nd time. She had to use the google translator to explain what she meant.[/QUOTE]Ah, the ubiquitousness of the net. Certainly does have SOME advantages, but I miss the days before mobile phones (at least for the masses) , where the girls' faces where not mesmerized by a screen. As posted recently, I'll give her a "I'm safe call", then I expect the phone to be shut off.
I heard "sweet mouth" my first visit here, and have come to think of it as the [i]standard[/i] response to telling a girl she's beautiful. Which is where I give my [i]standard[/i] response of "ching ching".
[QUOTE=11Bravo; 1544531][*]My pie."I don't go". Example: Walking along Suk, at a street corner, when that tuk-tuk driver sticks the MP brochure in your face.[/list]My pronunciation or the translation might not be exact, but close enough that they figure I've been around, and [u]immediately[/u] Leave me alone. Or maybe they find me totally incomprehensible and immediately leave me alone. Either way, fine by me. .
I heard "sweet mouth" my first visit here, and have come to think of it as the [i]standard[/i] Response to telling a girl she's beautiful. Which is where I give my [i]standard[/i] Response of "ching ching".[/QUOTE]My pie means bamboo eaten by Pandas. Ching means to flee if falling tone. Try Jing Jing.
Pronunciation is fairly important in Thai. After 20 years I still make a lot of tone errors so am funny at times for the Thais. Thai with an American drawl sounds sounds really ridiculous even to my ear.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1544574]My pie means bamboo eaten by Pandas. Ching means to flee if falling tone. Try Jing Jing.
Pronunciation is fairly important in Thai. After 20 years I still make a lot of tone errors so am funny at times for the Thais. Thai with an American drawl sounds sounds really ridiculous even to my ear.[/QUOTE]Exactly. There's absolutely no point trying to give Thai lessons on an internet forum because the pronunciation will be incomprehensible.
Well, Colonze 2 has gone down the pan since my last visit. The door was blocked by some guy in a balaclava. A woman said "farang" and he opened the door. Nice. Inside there were about 10 girls who were priced only 1700 baht, which was a surprise. 2 of them were quite attractive but they just played on their phones the entire time I was there, and they weren't just trying to avoid me because some Asian guys came and went as well. So I said thank you to the fat gay papasan but he just ignored me. All right, I won't bother coming back to your shitty massage parlour if you and your girls can't be polite.
I went to Alaina and there were about 8 girls. The papasan was very polite. I'm 99. 9% sure there's a 500 baht farang surcharge at this place. I know a previous poster has said he saw the prices in Thai and these were the same as the prices he was quoted, but that doesn't mean anything. Maybe the person writing those prices couldn't write in English, or maybe it's just a scam to make us think we're getting Thai prices. The reasons I'm so sure are: 1) the prices I was quoted were exactly 500 baht more expensive than those quoted on their own website: 2500 for As. 2700 for Bs and 3100 for Vs. 2) I'm a pretty good judge of the value of MP girls and the 2500 baht girls looked like 2000 baht girls and the 3100 baht girl looked like a 2600 baht girl (the kind of girl you see plenty of in Nataree). I was thinking of taking the 3100 baht girl but I looked round at the Asian customers and thought, am I going to be the only sap who pays 3100 baht for a 2600 baht girl? Fuck that, I went to Nataree instead.
I tried Dream Heaven next to Love Teen. The Lineup was only 4 girls but all were attractive on the first look. I spent a little time making sure I made the best choice for me while the mama tried to make the choice for me. I finally chose two girls whose name I really did not pay attention to. One looked about 23 and the other looked about 25 but with younger style makeup. I was very happy with the girls. The bodies were very firm and beautiful. I would rate them both about an 8 for their bodies. The girls worked well together and gave me a great time. I will definitely go back and see if I can choose them again. Very friendly, and good attitude while working together.
Report on my MP activities this last week. I had visited Amsterdam once or twice in the past but didn't partake because I was hooked on Nataree and thought the pricing was high. Syzygies timely reports led me to take a closer look. Prices are a little higher than average starting at 3300 owing to the farang up charge. The regular girl prices seem to end at about 4300 which is where the model prices begin. Most of the regular girls seemed friendly and eager to be chosen, while none of the models did, so I stuck to the 3300 price range for three girls and got what I consider to be great service. A tit on cock, chest and back rub in the bath plus a BBBJ in the bath or bed (or both) seem to be the standard. All appeared to enjoy the sex with the exception of one, but who still provided good service. It was more like the others were really into it. My last time there a 4300 model actually approached me twice speaking through the attendant. I felt good about her positive attitude so chose her. She was wonderful in every respect except for her enlarged tits that were probably smallish in the first place. A real turn off for me. But we had a nice session anyway. The facilities are a little run down but still adequate. I usually visited between 6 and 7 but found no magic time frame for the best selection. If you don't mind paying more I would recommend Amsterdam because of the consistent high level of service and overall good selection of doable girls. I never felt rushed at all to get the deed done, and that the girls are there to please the customer. It is easy to get to by the MRT.
I got lucky at Nataree when the older bald headed papa touted one of the sideline girls. She was inexperienced which in this case led to a great time. We seemed to click and I received a rare BBBJ from this cutie. She got turned on and wanted to get it on before the bath but I deferred in order to relax a little before delivering my payload. I got turned on too and administered the patented RK500+ treatment to this lass. She seemed quite spent afterward. Even though visiting several times I never really saw anything that interested me knowing I had a very suitable plan B with Amsterdam.
I also struck it rich at Alaina one time when I chose a very attractive Lao girl for the standard 2600. She got turned on and would have put me in bare had I let her. She also got the RK500+ workout and seemed to really enjoy it. Otherwise their lineup is nothing to brag about.
Visited Madame twice but nothing there of any interest. Also frequent visits to Hi-Class and Emmanuel but nothing I would pay for either. One visit to Colonze and never went back. One visit to the Lord, which had a selection of nice looking ladies but I just can't justify a starting price of 4700 on up to 7000. Someone else can have those girls at those prices.
Caesars has reopened since I was there in December and I visited twice just to look. Starting price at 2900 but both were fat. Around 4000 seems to be the going price there. Average lineup.
Finally I stayed at the Le Concorde for the first time and would highly recommend it. I payed about $90 USD and feel I got my moneys worth. Excellent breakfast buffet at this 5 Star hotel and right across the street from MP central. I didn't try but think they are girl friendly if you book for two people. A note in the room said they required 'guest check in' after 10PM.
I spent a good amount of time at Fortune Town at Phra Rham station on the MRT and kept seeing Eastern European girls there all the time. A large contingent must live in the neighborhood. I dislike stereotyping but I assume they are working girls. Anyone have any ideas?
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden;1544803]I also struck it rich at Alaina one time when I chose a very attractive Lao girl for the standard 2600. She got turned on and would have put me in bare had I let her. She also got the RK500+ workout and seemed to really enjoy it. Otherwise their lineup is nothing to brag about.[/QUOTE]Do you remember the letter of the girl? The standard price is 2600 baht for V girls, but when I was there they were adding a 500 baht farang surcharge. Stupid really as if the price had been 2600 baht I would happily have paid for the one V girl I saw there. It seems they don't have enough customers to be pissing around with people like that. Are you sure you didn't actually pay 2500 baht for an A girl or 2700 baht for a B girl? Those are the prices I was quoted, including the hidden farang surcharge.
[QUOTE=*****man;1544843]Do you remember the letter of the girl? The standard price is 2600 baht for V girls, but when I was there they were adding a 500 baht farang surcharge. Stupid really as if the price had been 2600 baht I would happily have paid for the one V girl I saw there. It seems they don't have enough customers to be pissing around with people like that. Are you sure you didn't actually pay 2500 baht for an A girl or 2700 baht for a B girl? Those are the prices I was quoted, including the hidden farang surcharge.[/QUOTE]I am sure she was a V girl. They had two very doable girls that time around. The very nice cheer person was touting a girl who he said was there for her first day on the job. I didn't doubt him and almost went for her (V19) but went for the Lao girl (V27) instead and was glad I did. Otherwise always a very unimpressive looking lineup. Fortunately one can shop around in that neighborhood.
May I know what Casanova is? It calls itself a 'Lounge Bar'. I know it's relatively new and belongs to Emmanuelle, but does this mean it's a G-Club like Pegasus?
Has anyone tried it?