Manila

[QUOTE=Mr Pandesal]

3 - Frequent Flier - I'm sure you know that, whether its an agency girl, or from a club, that the girl has to give up part of the money, right. So, with your 3000pesos (53US), if the girl kept even half, did you actually expect a beauty to sleep with you and fuck you for 8-9 hours, for 25 fucking dollars? Third World this may be, but we aint THAT pathetic. Jeez people.

What really gets me are foreigners coming to my country and getting all righteous about having scammed 10, 15, 20 bucks off the price - when they'll be paying three times that for a gum-infected BJ from a sore-infested junkie with sagging pus-filled tits in a sleazebag motel off the Jersey interstate. In dead winter.

I have paid 4000pesos for just a BJ (we got stoned and laughed our heads off) from a LA cafe girl, and oh once I paid 8,000 pesos to a Skyline massage girl, for a round, and a meal after her shift. Once or twice, I was too drunk, and I actually paid normal price (1000 pesos) but come to think, more often I pay no less than 3000pesos for sex in Manila. Or double what they think they'll get.and I never do overnights, so say 3 hrs max.

Why?

- Nickel-and-diming another human being doesn't get me off.

- Good karma begets good karma. its' not the country's GDP, but what yours is, when you feel it.

- While I do it out of charity sometimes, what do you think my chances are now of getting almost-free heavenly loving sex 5 times a day for a week in Boracay, when I call the Skyline (chinita, bubble butt, globes for tits) beauty next month?

- Some girls are greedy and just plain lowlifes, but for the most part, the stories of need and despair are true, and we can never know that kind of pain. which doesn't make me a charity ATM, but context is everything.

To those who'll howl and scream about how dude you're screwing it for the rest of us, and what a newbie, - well, tough.

Make more money then.

This next trip, I'll be even more generous. hell, i've had a great year.

Its' my money, it's my country, and my countrywomen - and i'll do as I damn please.

Let us altogether now get real. nuff said.[/QUOTE]WOW!

Well, since you are a newbie I guess we could expect as much from a newbie like you. Huh newbie?
But your right, they are your women in your country being paid with your money. So that makes you just a plain Prickosaurus. That is your personality not your anatomy

Have I ever posted being righteous about anything? Especially in the PI? Huh? how about it Prickosaurus?

You however have traveled all over the world fucking all of our many pus infested women, especially those from New Jersey as you stated, sometimes paying and sometimes for free. Whew! you are really one of a kind. Where does the line start to smell your shit that doesn't stink?

My post, you idiot, was preaching the same as yours and I was giving some of my own experiences as well. For some reason my post didn't post for a few days. If I had seen your post I wouldn't have bothered, because we were basically expressing the same opinion. To each his own and some are seeking something different from ourselves.

I never brag about what I pay, but I too have paid more to a nice girl from a P. Bugos Street establishment that needed it and I paid her much more than you brag about. But the amount is not important.

I also had a girl from a P. Burgos Street establishment who became sick when she was with me. Not pretend sick mind you but really sick. I had a digital/electronic thermometer with me and she had a temperature of 102.8. I paid for a doctor to come and visit her in my hotel room. Paid for all her medicine, she had an acute case of tonsillitis and let her stay with me in the room until she was well and could go to school and return to work. No sex mind you.

In my post I was merely explaining my experience and that after visiting the EDSA Plaza I did think $3,000.00 was for all night, as that is how long the EDSA girls stay for $1,000.00 at that time four years ago. I was expressing my disappointment that she had to leave early, not that I was disappointed with her or the service for the price.

So Prickosaurus, AKA Mr. Pandasel, after all of 6 post, why don't you retire since your from the PI and can do without any advise from the board. Because I for one can do with none of your opinions, which is what you are giving. Not advise.

Besides your so rich you can certainly find other ways of entertaining yourself.

FF

Mr Pandesal,

Great post.

HRC

Frequent Flier,

As HRC stated, this is a public forum for ALL sorts of information, not just the ten thousand ways to have cheap sex.

Therefore, until Jackson shuts me up, your having more posts should in no way confer you any more status than anyone else, especially newbies, as if we have to pass some sort of self-imposed qualifying test by the likes of you, or affect some learning-from-da-master submissive tone for your benefit.

In an immediate followup, which has yet to appear, i apologized immediately to the "foreigners", for the irony is not lost on this newbie that no matter where I am, whether its in the States or Frankfurt, my US passport don't mean shit - I am a foreigner there.

My reaction is essentially against boorish behavior. While it may have hit more of a nerve because it's the PI, I have felt the same way against Germans in Germany and Japanese in Germany. Assholism is global.

I was simply reacting against what has been a long-running ideology here of getting one over the locals - and I did add that I was no charity ATM, i just give more when I feel like it.

And where I am THE foreigner, I shut up and play it cool.

Interesting how it has to take a newbie's rant for you to come to the defense of good behavior, and not when other decent folk have been attacked here for "ruining it for the rest of us". I am impressed, even touched, with your actions, and on that account, I apologize for misreading your post.

By your territorial and abusive language however, you have confirmed my reservations about posting more here - and no matter where you came from, in whichever country, and despite the validity of some of your points - you're just another loud ass at the bar.

and my rant - yes, that was pure opinion , what else could it be? But then "newbies" are supposed to just take it from you, right, massa?

I will contribute to this board when I can help someone, and mostly shut up, as I have (6 posts remember?) - but won't shy away from defending myself or someone who was helpful to me - and mostly just stay away from that side of the bar where you are. Just like in real life.

Regardless of how valid my thoughts on the matter, I apologize:

1 - To everyone on the board, that you had to see me vent my spleen. My points are valid - my expression was not.

2 - To the "foreigners" - for I too am one. Here in the PI, and elsewhere.

3 - To those on a fixed income (yes, myself included, in years past and again this new year) –

I was attempting to make the point that sometimes generosity, for its own sake, and for its unintended rewards, is a good thing. In My Own Opinion, and for my own benefit.

4 - to those who disagree and think I'm "ruining it", I have read your rants on this public board and moved on, and you should grant me the same.

While I reserve the right to self-defense, anytime anywhere, this newbie has now vented, too much space for info-sharing has been taken and will now shut up on this thread.

Newbies United Against Territorial Bullies

[QUOTE=Wings2]Most of my visits to Manila have involved trips to either EDSA or P.Bugos area with the occassional stop off at Skyline.

Having heard a lot about Miss Universal I want to make a call in there on my next trip this week - can any one provide any information for me.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Miss Universal is located in Pasay City. Any cab driver can easily take you there. It is a big place with about 200 girls (half GRO/hostess, and half showgirls) with quality around average to above average and a few pretty ones. If you like the dark "exotic" filipina (deemed ugly by locals), you will be in heaven. Ask for VANGIE as your Floor Manager. She is also known by the nickname DILA (which means tongue). Tell her your friend from the USA recommended her.

Barfine (takeout) is expensive. Will range from P6,000 to P8,000 (US$110 - 150) for overnight session w/ you at your hotel. No short time barfines. If you like the girl, make a date w/ her for the next girl. It will be less expensive. All PI hotels are girl friendly.

All this because I pointed out something suspicious. Regardless, using in-call will not get you the highest quality girls. Paying more will not either. The girl gets P and gets the same P if you pay $20.00 or if you pay $200.00. The House gets it. I realize that Go Gos aren't everyone's cup of tea and I myself, get bored there after awhile too. The Casa is similar to a bar without the GoGo atmosphere in that you can buy alcohol and sit and look at the lineup in the light until you decide. You can stipulate you take her for the evening or for a couple hours. Some will stay the night and some absolutely will not. I don't promote bargaining the ladies down to basement prices but, the House gets all the money. Also, remember, she and the House get much less from a real Filipino and many non-US foreigners pay less than Americans. Filipino heritage does not make a Filipino. A foreigner is still a foreigner. Foreigners don't know the system and never will. If you want to "help her", tip her silently.

I left another site similar to this one years ago because I was bored with the no-information posts from first-time one-time traveller-experts.

[QUOTE=Makedono]Had stayed previously at Inter Continental makati but this time due to business arrangement will be staying at Edsa Shangrila, is this near to the famous Edsa redlight area? Further there was info stating there is a big shopping complex nearby..would this be Shoe Mart (SM).

The online site map provided by the Hotel website was not very helpful. I had look at previous threads but info for Shangrila Edsa is very sketchy compared to info on Shangrila Makati.

And one very important question is the hote girl-friendly?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

All PI hotels are girl friendly. EDSA Shangrila is on EDSA not too far from SM MegaMall. But it is a long way away from Makati and a lot more distant than the EDSA Complex which is almost near the Manila Bay (Roxas Blvd) on the Pasay City/Paranaque/Manila side. I would say at least 5 miles away and 20 minues by cab if there is no traffic (will never happen).

Mr. Panesal,

Again you miss the point.

As a newbie I am sure you will miss many.

It is your opinion that is the problem, as you continue to make assumptions on everyone based on your limited knowledge and exposure to a few people and a written post.

I certainly do not impose any test of any kind on any soul in any situation, unlike you I may add.

As to my territorial behavior? Look at my past post? See any ranting or bullying as you put it? Only on the occasion where some high brow like you decided to take a swipe at me for no reason. You thought you should lower your boom on my behavior and I had done nothing. You made the mistake boorish one, not me. I responded in kind to your attack. Something I rarely do. So again I agree. You should limit your post if in only 6 post you managed to already be so boorish. Your brief moment of morality is not very impressive. Only that... a brief moment

Your post really made me mad because you are up on your high horse making all the assumptions so now you get what you give. In this case you have chosen to continue to give and you know nothing about the person who you have laid your assumptions on.

As to your assumption that I have never come to the defense of good behavior I guess you are saying that you exhibited good behavior and I came to that defense. Your assumptions are so feeble even for a newbie.

I have many times talked to the point of those who take girls back from LA Cafe or the mall or other places and let them leave without offering money. They then brag about a freebie like they are some sort of stud, yea that is why they are in the PI, because they get so much free action at home. Of course I didn't criticize in the wonderful attacking manner that you did Mr. Wonderful, which is why you are so much better than I and the rest of us foreigners.

In my opinion. Just because your PI honey didn't ask for the money does not mean that she did not expect it or isn't in need of the money. If she does ask then the guy reports her as a gold digger. Some girls are to shy to ask for money, but they will accept it if offered. If you offer money and she refuses the money, then you can claim to be the stud of all studs, otherwise you are living in a dream world.

Please do stay on the other side of the bar as I would rather not associate with a person who is so much better than all others. You will know who I am as I treat the girls well and they remember me not just for the money I spend on them, but because I am a generous spirit. Besides, I have already met to many people like you in the PI, some of them PI nationals.

I have many times befriended a group of young Filipino guys who were just sitting in the back of a club on P. Burgos Street watching the show. They were very skeptical at first, but I insisted. Once they saw that I was just being friendly we had a blast on a slow Monday night. Didn't buy them girls as they were probably all dating the bar girls that I was buying drinks for, but made a few new friends.

You went to great lengths to defend the girls of the PI, how about all the citizens of the PI Oh great crusader? How do you treat the male population? Your no better than the rest of us so put your high horse in the stable.

[QUOTE=Mr Pandesal]and my rant - yes, that was pure opinion , what else could it be? But then "newbies" are supposed to just take it from you, right, massa?[/QUOTE]

By the way? massa? What was that?

I'm not sure where you claim to be from, but I believe you mentioned east coast somewhere. I know that where I live on the east coast and where I have traveled in the USA, that is not language that is used and is considered insensitive. You are so considerate of the world not only the PI aren't you?

Another brief moment there?

Should you now apologies again?

FF

[QUOTE=genuis8]All PI hotels are girl friendly. EDSA Shangrila is on EDSA not too far from SM MegaMall. But it is a long way away from Makati and a lot more distant than the EDSA Complex which is almost near the Manila Bay (Roxas Blvd) on the Pasay City/Paranaque/Manila side. I would say at least 5 miles away and 20 minues by cab if there is no traffic (will never happen).[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. I guess I need to plan my time very carefully bearing in mind the distance or try to utilise the service of 'hotel delivery'.

During my previous trip (when I stayed at the Inter-Cont) my Filipino friends brought me to a karaoke joint named 'Aladdin' or something with a famous service called 'three wishes', it was quite an experience where my friends were getting BBBJ from the hostess in the karaoke room as one of the standard 'wish' in the establishment. Unfortunately, I cannot recalled the address. Anyone can help me on this?

[QUOTE=genuis8]Miss Universal is located in Pasay City. Any cab driver can easily take you there. It is a big place with about 200 girls (half GRO/hostess, and half showgirls) with quality around average to above average and a few pretty ones. If you like the dark "exotic" filipina (deemed ugly by locals), you will be in heaven. Ask for VANGIE as your Floor Manager. She is also known by the nickname DILA (which means tongue). Tell her your friend from the USA recommended her.

Barfine (takeout) is expensive. Will range from P6,000 to P8,000 (US$110 - 150) for overnight session w/ you at your hotel. No short time barfines. If you like the girl, make a date w/ her for the next girl. It will be less expensive. All PI hotels are girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Genuis8,

Thanks for the info I have just arrived in Manila and will take a wander down there tomorrow to scope it out.

Cheers

Wings2

[QUOTE=Makedono]Thank you for the info. I guess I need to plan my time very carefully bearing in mind the distance or try to utilise the service of 'hotel delivery'.

During my previous trip (when I stayed at the Inter-Cont) my Filipino friends brought me to a karaoke joint named 'Aladdin' or something with a famous service called 'three wishes', it was quite an experience where my friends were getting BBBJ from the hostess in the karaoke room as one of the standard 'wish' in the establishment. Unfortunately, I cannot recalled the address. Anyone can help me on this?[/QUOTE]

The KTV you are referring to is called GENIE KTV, where all your wishes come true (for a price, naturally). They also have a Massage Parlor, where you can relieve your stress, or you can arrange for the MI (Mission Impossible) in your room, but expect to spend a bit of cash, as this is one of the top nightclubs in town.

It is located a ways out of Makati in the town of CAINTA, just outside the Metro Manila border.

[QUOTE=genuis8]The KTV you are referring to is called GENIE KTV, where all your wishes come true (for a price, naturally). They also have a Massage Parlor, where you can relieve your stress, or you can arrange for the MI (Mission Impossible) in your room, but expect to spend a bit of cash, as this is one of the top nightclubs in town.

It is located a ways out of Makati in the town of CAINTA, just outside the Metro Manila border.[/QUOTE]Dear Genius8. Take you again for the info. It was a long way from Inter-Cont..but since we went there after dinner (almost 10 p.m.) traffic was not that bad and better on the return journey.

Now I recalled more about the establishment. The Karaoke was on the 3rd or 4th Floor and the massage on the lower floor. My friends had good time having BBBJ in the room (light off) but with the TV on, there was ample opportunity to see the live show. One of the girls opened the connecting door to the next room upon hearing a vry loud music & abacadabara....we saw a naked gal dancing and performing some suggestive moves on the customers (also colleagues of ours). Regret I didn't have the exact price but it was not that expensive, something in the region of a total of P5000 to P7000 for a 2 hours session (drink, foods (fried chicken wings, fruits etc),rooms and 3 girls-selected from an 'aquarium style' room-all dressed in red evening gowns) for 3 of us and additional tips from my friends for the BBBJs rendered. Love to go there again..but doubt I would have a chance though.

[QUOTE=HarryDHo]

HRC,

Its not my intent on "offending" you however, your post is absurd! Think about it. $100 - $500 is a huge difference. Also, in-call is the worst way to go. Somethin's up here. There, info for ya!

You want to do something different? There will be a man sitting outside each 3 star and above hotel. Give him a description of what you want or ask him to take you around. There's a real night out that most here haven't experienced.[/QUOTE]HarryDHo,

I personally hate getting in discussions with you since you do not seem to understand meanings of the reports. So for the last time and only for your benefit I will answer to you. Let me start with basics. The definition of word absurd is "so unreasonable as to be ridiculous." I can see how these prices can seem ridiculous for you and I already made a point regarding this issue. However, for others it seems to be a fair price. For example, when we had our business partners from China and Singapore, they wanted celebrities for their weekends in Boracay or El Nido and they were paying about $3000 per lady. What I'm trying to say by citing these examples that the sex industry is not limited to your world of under $50 pussies (or should I say $30?). I admit though that the distribution of users of sex services is more skewed towards lower prices. However, there are plenty of users who are willing and do pay much higher prices. I hope that answers your comment about the price difference.

Regarding your comment about the in-call, it just shows your ignorance. Never in the post I mention or suggested in-call. When using escort services, I have ladies coming to my place or a hotel. I assume that you either did not even read the post carefully or you are confused about the word in-call. You might not have the dictionary handy so Jackson was kind enough to provide forum abbreviations. So please check that.

Regarding your suggestion of using services of "a man sitting outside each 3 star and above hotel," what you're suggesting here is use of just a different pimp from what I was mentioning. I did use the services of these guys few times and most of the time I was dissatisfied. I felt I was better off picking those girls myself. I really wished that I could get some info at that time about good providers without wasting my time and money trying to discover it myself. That exactly was the reason why I decided to reply to the request of one forum member. I did not expect that it would create such a mess.

Finally, you seem to jump on the band wagon by picking up on so-called newbies. The fact that you might be an expert in getting free or cheap pussy does not make an expert in the forum. It seems to me that by showing your ignorance about the sex industry you could actually be considered a newbie.

Regards,

HRC

Sorry, made mistake on my earlier posting, it should be between P5000-P7000 per person. However, it was all paid for by the local business partner. Al in all, it was a fun filled evening.

To HRC, Mr Pandesal and HarryDHo. Would you guys please stop it. Enough already!

Just tell us where, what and how much.

If you want to engage in personal squabbles please use the "private messages".

Thank you