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[QUOTE=Catalyst] ... The next day I tried Quai 17. This was a more elaborate club ...[/QUOTE]Catalyst, this part of your report caught my eye, as I was in the same club last year (see my report a few pages back). You're right - not much action for a single guy, unless you're a young hunk.

I was lucky in Quai 17 because I was with a girl, so I was allowed into the "couples-only" room. I had fun with a French guy's wife while her husband and my girl cheered on. I enjoyed the pseudo-upper-class astmosphere (the tiny French restaurant inside was great). Well, it was Paris, so we had to have good French food.

I recommend Quai 17 (very classy), but bring your own girl.

PS - Catalyst - I still remember your fantastic porno photo-shoots - will you be doing that again?

[QUOTE=Dreams]Good report! I hope everyone will understand that they need not waste their time and money trying to have a good time in a swinger club without being accompanied. By definition if you are alone, you have to go to club which accept single men, and this is not where swinger couples like to go, except old bitches who want to be gang banged...
There are quite a lot of girls, students or other, who will accept to accompany you for around 200 Euros. That's your entry ticket. In such case, you go to couple's only clubs, and you can really have fun.,Make clear with the girl that she cannot leave the club once you are in.. If so, you will have to leave as well.. But the girls does not need to partticipate if she does n ot want.[/QUOTE]
...a lady acompanying you. Otherwise you're playing roulette with a weighted wheel. I agree with all of what Dreams wrote.

I have been to Quai17, Les Chandelles, L'Escapade, La Cheminee and Au Pluriel. All are very active on Friday and Saturday nights and almost dead the rest of the week, except for La Cheminee which has a Wednesday trio night which can be quite good for a single guy with passable French.

I have paid in the past for a girl to go with me, but in the end you could end up paying for other guys to f*ck her while you're footing the bill. She has to stay with you all night and act like she's your date at least as she's your ticket to getting action with the women there and you won't be able to join any of the couples action if you're trying to get in alone. She's also you're interactive translator for the socializing part which is crucial for these clubs.

The last few times, I've invested time and met online with women who were interested in going to a club echangiste as part of a couple rather than a single woman. Definitely, the only way to travel...

BTW, the sauna clubs while purporting to be swinger oriented are good for making connections with older women or gay men.

As can be read in my previous posts, going to swingers'clubs is my favourite pastime in Paris, mongering wise.

I have read Catalyst's, Dream's and Iseeu's posts and agree with them to a certain extent :

- going to such a club as a single guy can be hit and miss. I recently went to Le 10bis and la Cheminée, on Thursday or Friday afternoons, and was not disappointed. True, you must not be too picky sometimes, and you may have to wait in the street for some time (10bis). But I do not regret going there : there was action and I was more than glad to participate. Afternoons are cheaper than evenings, and the number of single guys considerably lower too.
But I have also had some not so positive experiences (long wait, no couple, no action, etc.). I now stick to my favourite clubs mentioned above.

- Rather than meeting an East European beauty for an hour, whatever the pleasure derived, I now prefer getting in touch with a Parisian "occasionnelle" (who may turn out to be a semi-pro, but what the heck!) who will act a a sesame for entering a swinger's club, and who will let you feel the excitement of "eyeing the cheese" while you are screwing your next door neighbour's wife. you will also screw your afternoon partner and see her screwed by other guys. Well, the works!... I was in such a club last Friday afternoon and am looking forward to spending my €200 ASAP next time I go to Paris. In two and a half hours, I was looked after by three horny, sexy women and looked after two other. I only came twice, but left exhausted and filled with joy. Very pleasant atmosphere, no hassle, everyone is eager to please and be pleased... such sesame women are not hard to find : the missive and vivastreet sites (mentinoed in a previous post) work miracles.


Doesn't anyone agree with me ?

Frenchie

[QUOTE=Piper1]not much action for a single guy, unless you're a young hunk. [/QUOTE]
That wouldn't have helped. There was no action for anyone. Can't say for sure, though, that if one of us had been a hunk one of the girls wouldn't have decided to participate.

And (speaking now to everyone else) I have doubts about paying some 250 euros for a swinger club experience with a hired companion (200 for the girl plus the entry fee). In the clubs that I went to none of the men in couples got anything that I didn't. There was no action period, or at least only with old ugly girls. I only went on one day that was a Friday or Saturday, so that was probably a mistake, but my good experience many months ago was on a Sunday or a Monday. And what stops the girl from taking your 200 and telling you after 30 minutes that your time is up (regardless of what she agreed to earlier)?

[QUOTE=Piper1]I still remember your fantastic porno photo-shoots - will you be doing that again?[/QUOTE]
I'm praying. (I'm also wondering why I don't see reports from others about doing it.)

I will have a long layover at CDG coming up (6AM arrival depart after 4PM). I was wondering if there are any massage places (massage and HJ) aorund there, or any outcall services that offer that to any of the htoels in the area. For these very long layovers I normally get a day room.

Thanks.

I've had a number of good experiences with the services that bring Eastern European girls to Paris. The girls tend to be young (early 20's - 30), quite pretty, and very enthusiastic. 200 Euros includes GFE, BBBJ, CIM, DATY, and multiple shots. Le Guide Rose lists the agency's upcoming schedule. It's not Germany, but it's not bad either, and you know what you're getting.

[QUOTE=Catalyst]That wouldn't have helped. There was no action for anyone. Can't say for sure, though, that if one of us had been a hunk one of the girls wouldn't have decided to participate.

And (speaking now to everyone else) I have doubts about paying some 250 euros for a swinger club experience with a hired companion (200 for the girl plus the entry fee). In the clubs that I went to none of the men in couples got anything that I didn't. There was no action period, or at least only with old ugly girls. I only went on one day that was a Friday or Saturday, so that was probably a mistake, but my good experience many months ago was on a Sunday or a Monday. And what stops the girl from taking your 200 and telling you after 30 minutes that your time is up (regardless of what she agreed to earlier)?


I'm praying. (I'm also wondering why I don't see reports from others about doing it.)[/QUOTE]
The reason why you did not see anybody having fun is because you had to go to clubs which accept single men. As I said in a p[revious post, real swingers don't go there, they go to couples only clubs. Go to La Cheminee on week ends, with a partner, and you will change your opinion. And with regards the fear that the girl will leave too early, you need not pay her before the end of the night. . I never had any problem of that sort.

[QUOTE=Frenchie]As can be read in my previous posts, going to swingers'clubs is my favourite pastime in Paris, mongering wise.

I have read Catalyst's, Dream's and Iseeu's posts and agree with them to a certain extent :

- going to such a club as a single guy can be hit and miss. I recently went to Le 10bis and la Cheminée, on Thursday or Friday afternoons, and was not disappointed. True, you must not be too picky sometimes, and you may have to wait in the street for some time (10bis). But I do not regret going there : there was action and I was more than glad to participate. Afternoons are cheaper than evenings, and the number of single guys considerably lower too.
But I have also had some not so positive experiences (long wait, no couple, no action, etc.). I now stick to my favourite clubs mentioned above.

- Rather than meeting an East European beauty for an hour, whatever the pleasure derived, I now prefer getting in touch with a Parisian "occasionnelle" (who may turn out to be a semi-pro, but what the heck!) who will act a a sesame for entering a swinger's club, and who will let you feel the excitement of "eyeing the cheese" while you are screwing your next door neighbour's wife. you will also screw your afternoon partner and see her screwed by other guys. Well, the works!... I was in such a club last Friday afternoon and am looking forward to spending my €200 ASAP next time I go to Paris. In two and a half hours, I was looked after by three horny, sexy women and looked after two other. I only came twice, but left exhausted and filled with joy. Very pleasant atmosphere, no hassle, everyone is eager to please and be pleased... such sesame women are not hard to find : the missive and vivastreet sites (mentinoed in a previous post) work miracles.


Doesn't anyone agree with me ?

Frenchie[/QUOTE]
..., except that I prefer to find an amateur companion that I don't need to pay to join me. It's harder to find, but immensely more rewarding as she is there for a similar reason that I am. If all else fails I agree that the next best tactic is to pay 200 Euro for an "occasionelle".
Also, I stay away from the swinger clubs in the afternoons- it really requires a great deal of patience and luck.... not only are there fewer men there are also very few women if any. Even if the entry fee is lower, my time is also vaaluable...
As Dreams has written, except for possibly nights that limit single men participants like Le Cheminee on Weds. night, the best swinger club experiences are in clubs that are paare only, and for that you have to have an female companion, paid for or otherwise.

Has anyone actually seen Olga? See link. She looks too good to be true. Must be the classic bait and switch, but one can always hope! lol!


[url]http://www.olga-escort.com/?p=aboutme&m=menu1&l=ru[/url]

I did a search for her name and nothing came up.

AT2

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Has anyone actually seen Olga? See link. She looks too good to be true. Must be the classic bait and switch, but one can always hope! lol!

[url]http://www.olga-escort.com/?p=aboutme&m=menu1&l=ru[/url]

I did a search for her name and nothing came up.

AT2[/QUOTE]This girl is Russian - or another girl uses her pictures. The girl on the pictures is from St Petersburg, I had her there 1-2 years ago in St Peter. At that time she was relatively new. She is beautiful, but not outstanding. She gives good service, but not outstanding. She is now on several websites in St Peter. I never went back, because she has a relatively high price and she was not that special. But she speaks excellent English and she gave a great deep throat:).

Damn shite, Gangbang girls are back by January, but the prices have raised: 100€ for playing with a girl surrounded by 35 men. I miss the old times (only a year ago) when all this was about 25€...

Sounds like Paris is definitely dead. I will try to play my young-and-not-so-bad-looking card from now. Denis, did you really score with kijiji and vivastreet?

[QUOTE=Explorer69]This girl is Russian - or another girl uses her pictures. The girl on the pictures is from St Petersburg, I had her there 1-2 years ago in St Peter. At that time she was relatively new. She is beautiful, but not outstanding. She gives good service, but not outstanding. She is now on several websites in St Peter. I never went back, because she has a relatively high price and she was not that special. But she speaks excellent English and she gave a great deep throat:).[/QUOTE]

Explorer69,

Thanks for the info. At her price range, you are right to expect more than just good. I do envy you, though, for having had the opportunity!

AT2

[QUOTE=Little Jared]Damn shite, Gangbang girls are back by January, but the prices have raised: 100€ for playing with a girl surrounded by 35 men. I miss the old times (only a year ago) when all this was about 25€...

Sounds like Paris is definitely dead. I will try to play my young-and-not-so-bad-looking card from now. Denis, did you really score with kijiji and vivastreet?[/QUOTE]

Jared
Yes I did score with kijijij and Vivastreet, but only with girls who responded to the adds I put. The ones placing adds are all pro.
Cost me each time maximum of 100€ for a couple of hours
You will get a lot of response from Blacks and North African Girls but I found a fantastic Asian student and I am still with her, it is why also I am very quiet of the board ;O)
Cheers
Denis

Having found out I need to spend the next week in Paris, I eagerly started reading the forum here to bone up on the scene. After page 3, I guess I should give up now, as the reports are extremely discouraging (not the reports themselves, the scene).
I suppose I could amuse myself with taking pictures of the Eiffel Tower.

Brandon - tsk tsk! Depending on how much time and money you're willing to invest, either pay the big money for an escort (little time commitment, big money), or put some time into the dating sites (little money, big time commitment). There's always the swinger's clubs (some allow single men on certain nights). Any of these options beats the Eiffel Tower. Go back more than 3 pages - heaps on info here, and heaps of fun in Paris.