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I am sure that some of fellow mongers know this but let me just tell you that we do can get refund of barfine money from bars if the girls behave pretty bad or do not do what they promised to do.

Indeed, I occasionally do this, and I got 100% refund of barfine money on all occasions I asked.

Procedure is easy. Just take the girl back to the bar and complain and talk to mamasan.

You will get refunded (at least based on my own experience).

By the way, on all those occasions, I took the girl back to the bar without fucking her. For example, some girls do not want to fuck in the first place if possibel but just want to get barfine money for sure, so she will try hard not to come to my hotel by sticking to "let's go to more barhopping" and after that "let's go to Skytrack (field disco)" or just comes up with whatever excuse she can.

So I am not sure if we can still get refund after you fucked the girl like trying to ger refund after you used the purchased-product. Possible situation would be that the girls promised to stay until morining but left after just one session or a few hours. But I know that one of a veteran angeles mongers I know did get half of barfine money due to this situation (promised long-time turned out to be just an hour session).

I am not particularly encouraging other mongers to do this, but I am just made that way and my money is hard earned. That's for sure.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1221540]To Manonsanboy,

You don't see too many Chinese from Mainland China monger in AC there are not many even in Manila, the Chinese that you see in AC are from oversea and Singapore, there are enough cheap p4p in China for them and the rich Chinese will go to Macau and Thailand to bang the model and the Hongerkonger are boycott PI.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Not all that many Chinese speak english. AC would be difficult.

[QUOTE=Chute; 1222342]I am sure that some of fellow mongers know this but let me just tell you that we do can get refund of barfine money from bars if the girls behave pretty bad or do not do what they promised to do.

Indeed, I occasionally do this, and I got 100% refund of barfine money on all occasions I asked.

Procedure is easy. Just take the girl back to the bar and complain and talk to mamasan.

You will get refunded (at least based on my own experience).

By the way, on all those occasions, I took the girl back to the bar without fucking her. For example, some girls do not want to fuck in the first place if possibel but just want to get barfine money for sure, so she will try hard not to come to my hotel by sticking to "let's go to more barhopping" and after that "let's go to Skytrack (field disco)" or just comes up with whatever excuse she can.

So I am not sure if we can still get refund after you fucked the girl like trying to ger refund after you used the purchased-product. Possible situation would be that the girls promised to stay until morining but left after just one session or a few hours. But I know that one of a veteran angeles mongers I know did get half of barfine money due to this situation (promised long-time turned out to be just an hour session).

I am not particularly encouraging other mongers to do this, but I am just made that way and my money is hard earned. That's for sure.[/QUOTE]I've returned several girls (un-fucked) also, and have always gotten a full refund.

I've returned girls for the following reasons: bad attitude in the room, not completing sexual acts she promised to in the bar, not disclosing that she was a mother.

I'm all in favor of a win win scenario in AC. Never hesitate to stick up for yourself and your money in AC! I'm on the mongers side 100. We come across seas with money and looking for a good time. We should be able to get at least that for our efforts.

Sorry, for this is just a venting post. A couple nights ago a guy who was sitting next to me at Valhalla Club at closing told one of the 2 girls he was holding to advise her friend as follows: "tell your friend I am going to spank her until she cries, then I am going to comfort her, then I am going to f* her mouth, ass, ears and anything in between, is that OK? I want her to know what to expect." The girl said that is fine, don't worry about my friend. I was heartbroken. I had spoken to this girl earlier and she was just so sweet.

In all fairness he did advise her and she did accept so one could invoke free will. But. Does anyone really believe it?

Got a couple nice experiences taking out waitresses from the Dollhouse. Some of them look much better than the dancers and for some reason they may still be available even late at night. Check out Kaycee, miss Dollhouse 2011 waitress category.

Near miss with a quite beautiful girl at Q bar, her name is Silberjane, surely some mongers know her. 2 turnoffs for me. 1) she left the bar with a monger as I came in, and returned 45 minutes later after texting her friend several times to have me wait. That is nice but what kind of girl sends SMS while in bed with another monger and can get done so quicly to return to the bar. She would only do short time anyway because she "still had work to do" that night and 2) I found out she was only drinking juice because she has UTI. That kind of scared me out, I only found out later it is not contagious. Anyway better safe than sorry.

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1222512]Sorry, for this is just a venting post. A couple nights ago a guy who was sitting next to me at Valhalla Club at closing told one of the 2 girls he was holding to advise her friend as follows: "tell your friend I am going to spank her until she cries, then I am going to comfort her, then I am going to f* her mouth, ass, ears and anything in between, is that OK? I want her to know what to expect." The girl said that is fine, don't worry about my friend. I was heartbroken. I had spoken to this girl earlier and she was just so sweet.

In all fairness he did advise her and she did accept so one could invoke free will. But. Does anyone really believe it?[/QUOTE]You're heartbroken because she willingly accepted and agreed to his terms? Some people endure much worse than that; at least she's being paid for it.

[QUOTE=Mahal;1222515]That is nice but what kind of girl sends SMS while in bed with another monger and can get done so quicly to return to the bar. She would only do short time anyway because she "still had work to do" that night[/QUOTE]All of them?

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1222512]Sorry, for this is just a venting post. A couple nights ago a guy who was sitting next to me at Valhalla Club at closing told one of the 2 girls he was holding to advise her friend as follows: "tell your friend I am going to spank her until she cries, then I am going to comfort her, then I am going to f* her mouth, ass, ears and anything in between, is that OK? I want her to know what to expect." The girl said that is fine, don't worry about my friend. I was heartbroken. I had spoken to this girl earlier and she was just so sweet.

In all fairness he did advise her and she did accept so one could invoke free will. But. Does anyone really believe it?[/QUOTE]Yes. More than once have rec'd PM here on the board when I discussing a girl with a message like: "I had her two weeks ago. Wow how did you get her to do THAT? She was so sweet and simple." I asked, in the bar, that's how."Honey can you do mouth, pussy, ass, swallow cum, no condom, spanking, pics in my camera, have sex with another girl, and stay until 10am?" To which the response was: "Yes of course its my job. Already you have other girl or you want other girl this bar?" All without bothering with LD. Talking 'specifics' to bargirls is akin to talking about your radiator to your car mechanic. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Where do English speakers use "doing slops"? Most American I know use "sloppy seconds".

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1221877]Unless the girl offers to meet you out side do not ask. It is better to barfine her once then get her number. You can meet her before or after her shift, but expect her to still get other guys and you be doing slops with the other monger if you get her after the shift.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1222611]Yes. More than once have rec'd PM here on the board when I discussing a girl with a message like: "I had her two weeks ago. Wow how did you get her to do THAT? She was so sweet and simple." I asked, in the bar, that's how."Honey can you do mouth, pussy, ass, swallow cum, no condom, spanking, pics in my camera, have sex with another girl, and stay until 10am?" To which the response was: "Yes of course its my job. Already you have other girl or you want other girl this bar?" All without bothering with LD. Talking 'specifics' to bargirls is akin to talking about your radiator to your car mechanic. Like shooting fish in a barrel.[/QUOTE]Seems like you need to open a school for these Mongers In Training.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1222645]Seems like you need to open a school for these Mongers In Training.[/QUOTE]It not just what you say to girls but how, fake it and they know. You can also tell the fakes on the forums while they dream about it others are doing it. No school can teach them.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1222605]All of them?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments all, I see your points, don't particularly care for the patronizing tone of some but oh well. I just don't think the fact that these girls get frequently abused makes it right, but if you do good for you. As I know they have few options and refusing a customer is not well accepted by mamasans or the club. I have gotten close to a few of them over the years, many of them are not perverts, just simple girls from the countryside who need money. Anyway that is a pointless debate so forget about it, again thanks for your comments.

BTW I have never allowed a phone in my bed! Mahal

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1222512]Sorry, for this is just a venting post. A couple nights ago a guy who was sitting next to me at Valhalla Club at closing told one of the 2 girls he was holding to advise her friend as follows: "tell your friend I am going to spank her until she cries, then I am going to comfort her, then I am going to f* her mouth, ass, ears and anything in between, is that OK? I want her to know what to expect." The girl said that is fine, don't worry about my friend. I was heartbroken. I had spoken to this girl earlier and she was just so sweet.

In all fairness he did advise her and she did accept so one could invoke free will. But. Does anyone really believe it?[/QUOTE]LOL maybe you should learn from this guy and perhaps next time try and act up one of your own fantasies rather then get attached to the entertainment. Everyone falls for bar girl here and there but to be heartbroken or keep them in such a high regard is crazy. You do realise that there are assholes outthere that make the girls tattoo their names, burn then, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on them and do far worse then what you just described.

[QUOTE=Mahal;1222515]Near miss with a quite beautiful girl at Q bar, her name is Silberjane, surely some mongers know her. 2 turnoffs for me. 1) she left the bar with a monger as I came in, and returned 45 minutes later after texting her friend several times to have me wait. That is nice but what kind of girl sends SMS while in bed with another monger and can get done so quicly to return to the bar. She would only do short time anyway because she "still had work to do" that night and 2) I found out she was only drinking juice because she has UTI. That kind of scared me out, I only found out later it is not contagious. Anyway better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]Silverjane hm. I barfined her twice. Once as a cherrygirl at Angelwitch about a year / year and a half ago and I had one of those nights where I ended up kicking one girl out of the room, keeping the cherry and girl number 3. She was smart and lovely gave me a blow job and let me come all over her face. Due to what happened that night I kept in touch with the 3 girls including the one I kicked out thats how I remember her. Second time was about 8-9 months ago just after she lost her cheery. I was the second guy that fucked her. From what I can remember it was a great experiance we did it few times and she was egar to learn and to please. Few months ago she blew me off she was suppose to see me in manila but she insisted on bringing a friend last second so whern I said no she didn't come. Since then I have been avoinding Q Bar but tonight I went there few hours ago with girl number 3 who has few friends there. We chatted for about 15 min. She drinks Gatorate because she was in hospital not long ago. Man, she has turned into a stone cold *****. Yes she is still switched on but now its all business. The charm and the spirt that she had when I first meet her are gone. I didn't discuss barfine but I could sense that being with her will be like fucking a doll. She is now into koreans she mentioned some korean disco that she is going to after her shift. Anwyway I say good on you for picking up the bad vibe on this one.

I guess another way to look at it is she is now like us, trying to get best value for her pussy, like I sad smart girl.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1223023]LOL maybe you should learn from this guy and perhaps next time try and act up one of your own fantasies rather then get attached to the entertainment. Everyone falls for bar girl here and there but to be heartbroken or keep them in such a high regard is crazy. You do realise that there are assholes outthere that make the girls tattoo their names, burn then, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on them and do far worse then what you just described.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Imagine the headlines. A sex tourist does some wierd shit to a local girl. Local Girl presses charges resulting in prison for the sex tourist. It just sounds like an accident waiting to happen.