American Politics

[QUOTE=Canada;2731928]US Bureau of Labor Statistics. [URL]www.bps.gov/ces[/URL].

They post every day. Both good and bad. Don't be lazy. Look it up. Facts are facts and I know you socialists don't like the facts of Biden policies and record inflation.[/QUOTE]Your link goes nowhere, Can'tidea.

[B]Biden still cannot reach Trump level of economy and employment[/B]

If we had data on it, it is doubtful that Trump exceeded POTUS William Henry Harrison's level of economy and employment. It's for damn sure WHH signed and passed more beneficial legislation for the country than Trump did.

Yep, with links:

[B]With Surge in July, U.S. Recovers the Jobs Lost in the Pandemic[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/business/economy/july-jobs-report-gains.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]USA Job growth accelerated in July across nearly all industries, restoring nationwide employment to its prepandemic level, despite widespread expectations of a slowdown as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates to fight inflation.

Employers added 528,000 jobs on a seasonally adjusted basis, the Labor Department said on Friday, more than doubling what forecasters had projected. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3. 5 percent, equaling the figure in February 2020, which was a 50-year low.[/QUOTE]Yes, we had three months of a 3. 5% unemployment rate under Trump, two of which occurred in early 2020. No great feat for someone that inherited a "Full Employment" 4. 7% and declining unemployment rate four years earlier.

And that was before his disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and in 2020 came to fruition and produced four months of double digit unemployment rates and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs as well as destroying global supply chains, closing down worldwide economies and triggering hyper-inflation that Biden had to tackle and tame:

[URL]https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2731968]Your link goes nowhere, Can'tidea.

[B]Biden still cannot reach Trump level of economy and employment[/B]

If we had data on it, it is doubtful that Trump exceeded POTUS William Henry Harrison's level of economy and employment. It's for damn sure WHH signed and passed more beneficial legislation for the country than Trump did.[/QUOTE]Not sure why it isn't opening but stop being lazy.

Just Google: US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Pretty simple. USA government labor information.

[QUOTE=Canada;2732025]Not sure why it isn't opening but stop being lazy.

Just Google: US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Pretty simple. USA government labor information.[/QUOTE]I have provided working links for BLS to substantiate my contentions many times here.

Stop being lazy. Quote the substantiation of what you posted along with a link for it that works like I do.

Simply saying "look at BLS" is not enough. If you accept that as enough substantiation for what is asserted, great, here goes:

Look at BLS and you will see that Repubs were in the White House at the start of every Great Recession, Massive Job Losses and none of the Great Recoveries / Expansions and Job Gains of the past 100 years while Dems have been in the White House at the start of every Great Recovery / Expansion and Historic Job Gains and none of the Great Recessions. Oh, and Trump's record of results on those factors is among the worst in the past 100 years while Biden's so far is among the best.

Really. Don't be lazy. It's simple. Look it up right here:

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Canada;2731934]50 million people can't afford food today because of Biden inflation but it is great that 8.2 million people are getting a rebate. Thanks Joe, Nancy and Chuck for putting so many people into poverty.[/QUOTE]I thought your argument was Biden caused today's inflation by flooding the economy with too much money. But now you're saying people can't buy food with "too much money" in the economy.

Oh, I know. Just look it up at BLS, right?

Looks like Biden's "too much money" in the system didn't increase USA poverty at all. Far from it.

But Repubs'/ Conservatives' political agenda did increase USA poverty. By a lot:

[B]The expanded child tax credit briefly slashed child poverty. Here's what else it did[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2022/01/27/1075299510/the-expanded-child-tax-credit-briefly-slashed-child-poverty-heres-what-else-it-d[/URL]

[B]Child Tax Credit Payouts Biggest in GOP States, Despite No Republicans Voting for Bill[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/child-tax-credit-payouts-biggest-gop-states-despite-no-republicans-voting-bill-1629809[/URL]

[B]Child Poverty Soars After GOP, Manchin Block Child Tax Credit Payments[/B]

[URL]https://cardinalpine.com/story/child-poverty-soars-after-gop-manchin-block-child-tax-credit-payments/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Travv;2731963]In a nutshell, Wokeness replaced the workers with Identity classes. . . Same marxist analysis of oppressor vs oppressee with the solution being revolution and thought police. Result is the victim Olympics we see today competing for bigger and better victim status and government cash.[/QUOTE]I agree that communism a struggle for liberty. The emancipation of the working class from wage slavery and exploitation by the ruling elites. It is a struggle by the oppressed against the oppressor. But then so are all movements to recognise rights or to end exploitation. We can go back in time way before the theory of communism was invented. For example, to the struggles to end the victimisation of Christians during Roman times, to end the rule of monarchy, fuedalism, the persecution of witches, of Catholics, or Protestants, to end slavery (including child slavery) . And on and on. These movements all share the same "wokeness", I. E. An awakening, and understanding, empathy for the plight of the victimised. One can see that this has nothing at all to do with communism, and rather everything to do with the broadening of the "circle of empathy", and societal learning has taught us that the positions we took for granted before were ridiculous, inequitable, unjustified.

To pin wokeness on communism, makes as much sense to pin wokness on Kunta Kinte, or Joan of Arc.

A better analysis is that it is a struggle between short term thinkers aka (Grasshoppers) vs. Long term thinkers aka (Ants).

Why Socialism Is Bad: The Parable Of The Ant & The Grasshopper.

During difficult economic times, Socialism becomes a popular ideology due to the increased amount of economic suffering. But there are some reasons why socialism is bad highlighted below.

When times are good, it's OK if others make a lot of money and do well, so long as you are also doing well. As soon as things turn bad, it then becomes curiously not OK if someone else continues to do well if you are struggling. Why can't we be happy for someone else? Why do we have to bring others down?

My parable: The ant worked hard all summer collecting food and preparing his home for winter. The grasshopper played all summer not doing any work.

When winter came the grasshopper had no food. No worries, the grasshopper elected a socialist leader that took away 40 percent of the ants food and gave it to the grasshopper.

The next year the ant decided that the new government would take care of him the same way so he played all summer too, as did all the other hard working producing ants.

When winter came, there was no food and they all starved to death.

This scenario played out in the America's early history. The Pilgrims started as a socialistic enterprise, which resulted in famine and starvation as the Ants realized they were working to benefit Grasshoppers and did the minimum. . . [URL]https://nevadanewsandviews.com/plymouth-rock-america%E2%80%99s-first-experiment-with-socialism/[/URL].

[QUOTE=JustTK;2732108]I agree that communism a struggle for liberty. The emancipation of the working class from wage slavery and exploitation by the ruling elites. It is a struggle by the oppressed against the oppressor. But then so are all movements to recognise rights or to end exploitation. We can go back in time way before the theory of communism was invented. For example, to the struggles to end the victimisation of Christians during Roman times, to end the rule of monarchy, fuedalism, the persecution of witches, of Catholics, or Protestants, to end slavery (including child slavery) . And on and on. These movements all share the same "wokeness", I. E. An awakening, and understanding, empathy for the plight of the victimised. One can see that this has nothing at all to do with communism, and rather everything to do with the broadening of the "circle of empathy", and societal learning has taught us that the positions we took for granted before were ridiculous, inequitable, unjustified.

To pin wokeness on communism, makes as much sense to pin wokness on Kunta Kinte, or Joan of Arc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2732064]I thought your argument was Biden caused today's inflation by flooding the economy with too much money. But now you're saying people can't buy food with "too much money" in the economy.

Oh, I know. Just look it up at BLS, right?[/QUOTE]Please explain how a family making $30,000 to $60,000 per year who can't afford to buy gas or food benefits from Biden spending hundreds of billions of dollars on 87,000 new IRS agents (KGB) offices and expenses for these agents plus hundreds of billions in subsidies for green energy plus billions of dollars for increase in EPA to fine oil and coal companies. These fines will force oil companies to raise prices and create more inflation. Please explain how it makes the millions in poverty lives better. I guess I don't understand how wasting this money makes Americans lives better.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2732058]I have provided working links for BLS to substantiate my contentions many times here.

Stop being lazy. Quote the substantiation of what you posted along with a link for it that works like I do.

Simply saying "look at BLS" is not enough. If you accept that as enough substantiation for what is asserted, great, here goes:

Look at BLS and you will see that Repubs were in the White House at the start of every Great Recession, Massive Job Losses and none of the Great Recoveries / Expansions and Job Gains of the past 100 years while Dems have been in the White House at the start of every Great Recovery / Expansion and Historic Job Gains and none of the Great Recessions. Oh, and Trump's record of results on those factors is among the worst in the past 100 years while Biden's so far is among the best.[/QUOTE]Yes. Look at the facts. According to BIS more people were working under Trump than Biden pre pandemic. Highest rate of blacks and Hispanics ever. Trump inflation near zero. Biden inflation highest in 41 years at 8.5%. Pre pandemic the economy was booming under Trump. Not so with Biden leading USA into a recession. Look back at the last 6 years. Look back at gas prices and inflation. Smart people don't need people to show them links on Biden failed policies. They can see them with their own eyes as they are living them every day. Not just with gas prices and inflation. Biden border polices are hurting millions of Americans daily. His stupidity in Afghanistan, Saudi, China and Iran have been foreign policy jokes. Comparing Trump success to Biden failures is simple if you live in USA. It is black and white. Intelligent people don't need links to see it. They live it every day.

[QUOTE=Travv;2732153]A better analysis is that it is a struggle between short term thinkers aka (Grasshoppers) vs. Long term thinkers aka (Ant.[/QUOTE]Then along came the anteater and ate all those hardworking ants up, bcod its a dogeatdog world and only the fittest survive. This scenario plays put NOW in USA.

P.S., why don't you go live in Congo?

[QUOTE=Canada;2732371]Yes. Look at the facts. According to BIS more people were working under Trump than Biden pre pandemic. Highest rate of blacks and Hispanics ever. Trump inflation near zero. Biden inflation highest in 41 years at 8.5%. Pre pandemic the economy was booming under Trump. Not so with Biden leading USA into a recession. Look back at the last 6 years. Look back at gas prices and inflation. Smart people don't need people to show them links on Biden failed policies. They can see them with their own eyes as they are living them every day. Not just with gas prices and inflation. Biden border polices are hurting millions of Americans daily. His stupidity in Afghanistan, Saudi, China and Iran have been foreign policy jokes. Comparing Trump success to Biden failures is simple if you live in USA. It is black and white. Intelligent people don't need links to see it. They live it every day.[/QUOTE]I always look at the facts. According to BLS Trump's $2.5+ Trillion economic "stimulus" decision in 2017 produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it and not even 1 percentage point increase in GDP growth, his disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and all through 2020 wiped out millions of jobs, skyrocketed the unemployment rate into several months of double digits and plunged us into a deep GDP Growth decline and Recession.

Facts. Easy to research. It's right there in BLS. Click on any of the working links I have provided for BLS over the years.

[QUOTE=Canada;2732366]Please explain how a family making $30,000 to $60,000 per year who can't afford to buy gas or food benefits from Biden spending hundreds of billions of dollars on 87,000 new IRS agents (KGB) offices and expenses for these agents plus hundreds of billions in subsidies for green energy plus billions of dollars for increase in EPA to fine oil and coal companies. These fines will force oil companies to raise prices and create more inflation. Please explain how it makes the millions in poverty lives better. I guess I don't understand how wasting this money makes Americans lives better.[/QUOTE]Well, for one thing, "spending money" is what even the most self-delusional "job creator" conservative pro Repub Capitalist hides under his bed waiting for the Federal Government to do in order to pull us out of every Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produce, such as the recent one Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship produced (sorry, Laura Ingraham, it was his classic crap Repub policies, not his constant lying and mean tweets). So, right off the bat, that is why Biden and the Dems had to do it this time. Same reason FDR had to do it. And Clinton. And Obama. Etc. Even poor people are much, much better off today for their having done that than they were in January 2021.

Waiting for brave free market Capitalists to rush in with "their" money to pull us out of these consistent Great Repub Economic Disasters is really Waiting For Godot. He ain't coming.

Beyond that it has now become abundantly obvious from all available data, record of results and easily observable reality over the past 100 years that the Dems' version of Demand-Side tax and economic philosophy and agenda is far and away superior for avoiding deep recessions and massive job losses than the Repubs' idiotic Supply-Side philosophy and agenda, both of which require tax money to be spent somewhere for the benefit of somebody.

Yeah, compared to the massive job losses in the millions, plunging GDP growth and economic disaster that follows virtually every Repub "success" in getting their idiotic Supply-Side agenda into the system, who and where the Dems then must spend tax money to pull us out of it is better for everybody in every income bracket.

Please explain how Repubs giving the already wealthy disproportionately high tax cuts will ever produce as many jobs, improve GDP growth, expand the economy and avoid deeply damaging downturns anywhere near as effectively as the Dem methods have for at least a century.

The Biden / Dem Inflation Reduction Act is another in about a half dozen Biden legislative and stewardship achievements in just 18 months that have already and will continue to recover and create the jobs with higher wages that Trump's classic Repub methods and stewardship wiped out. And that is good and far better than the Repub alternative for any income bracket you want to cite.

Trump's Pandemic-triggered supply chain destruction hyper-inflation is being tamed by Biden's stewardship and the Fed doing what every Fed must do to tame it. Thanks to Biden / Dem policies and stewardship, jobs creation is at high levels and the unemployment rate is at a 50 year low. The last time inflation was as high, thanks to Ronald Reagan's classic Repub policies and agenda no jobs were being created and the unemployment rate was skyrocketing into 10%+ every month for almost a solid year!

Eih, for one thing, "spending money" is what even the most self-delusional "job creator" conservative pro Repub Capitalist hides under his bed waiting for the Federal Government to do in order to pull us out of every Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produce, such as the recent one Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship produced (sorry, Laura Ingraham, it was his classic crap Repub policies, not his constant lying and mean tweets). So, right off the bat, that is why Biden and the Dems had to do it this time. Same reason FDR had to do it. And Clinton. And Obama. Etc. Even poor people are much, much better off today for their having done.

Not sure what you wrote has to do with my question.

I guess since you can't explain why Biden policies are not helping Americans that you agree with me that spending billions on climate control and IRS agents will not help the American people. Thanks.

MAR-A-LAGO — Anonymous sources are alleging that among the documents confiscated from Trump's residence were the top secret plans to the White House. These plans are said to reveal the building's only weakness: a thermal exhaust port only 2 meters wide.

"It's impossible to overstate just how close we came to losing our fully armed and operational Washington the. See. Along with over 80,000 IRS Stormtroopers," said FBI Director Wray. "A direct hit from an AR-15 on the thermal exhaust port on the southeast corner of the White House roof could have set off a chain reaction that would destroy the entire District of Columbia."

Sources also claimed that since Trump's sons had extensive experience bulls-eyeing baby elephants in Africa that are no larger than 2 meters, it was only a matter of time before "insurrectionist rebel scum" made a move to destroy the entire facility.

"Just think — Washington the. See. Could have been destroyed!" said Director Wray. "The FBI just saved Washington the. See. !" Reports confirmed that FBI approval plunged another 12 points after the release of Wray's statement to the American public. . .

At publishing time, sources confirmed that Trump also had possession of the One Ring, which is now being safely returned to the nation's capital. . .

[QUOTE=Canada;2731192]All the illegal crap the democrats and DOJ come up with just make more Americans realize that they will continue to push their communist agenda.[/QUOTE]