Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[QUOTE=FreeWeed;2885933]Hello,

Trying to dip my toes in the scene again after a break. Would appreciate if you can message me names of tried and tested good ones in Bangalore.

Thanks,

Freeweed.[/QUOTE]Hi bro. Can you dm me. Your inbox is full.

I had to clear my web browser cache, so my saved login of SA got expired. Now when I try to login, it does sends the OTP to my registered email ID but when I enter the same and clock the login button, I sent back to login page asking my email ID.

Is this a symptom of getting banned?

[QUOTE=FunForSandy;3000262]I would disagree with you.

There are still plenty of girls who are willing to meet without any ask for being paid for a meeting over coffee or dinner.

Recently I met someone in a cafe where my bill was just about 500. Decent girl. Talked to me for more than an hour.

I also came across someone who insisted that I buy her gifts. I passed her. At times I give the girls a small gift if the meeting goes well but I avoid those who insist on a gift or being paid.

As Phil said it's a good way to filter out girls.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am in the app for just a couple of months and I will come across more such profiles in future. So far no luck with only WGs popping up in search.

Also, is there any algorithm behind the profiles showing in our searches which bases the searches on the Seeking Tags in our profile? Or everyone in a particular location can see the same set of profiles across the location?

[QUOTE=KynkarX;3000420]Maybe I am in the app for just a couple of months and I will come across more such profiles in future. So far no luck with only WGs popping up in search.

Also, is there any algorithm behind the profiles showing in our searches which bases the searches on the Seeking Tags in our profile? Or everyone in a particular location can see the same set of profiles across the location?[/QUOTE]There is no algorithm. We can all see the same profiles if we filter the same way.

[QUOTE=KynkarX;3000420]Maybe I am in the app for just a couple of months and I will come across more such profiles in future. So far no luck with only WGs popping up in search.

Also, is there any algorithm behind the profiles showing in our searches which bases the searches on the Seeking Tags in our profile? Or everyone in a particular location can see the same set of profiles across the location?[/QUOTE]It can test your patience. There have been times when I came across a bunch of good profiles in a short time and there have been times when one doesn't find a single good profile over a 3-4 weeks period.

Also my account got blocked about a month ago. And I had my last paid subscription in Oct. Nov. So my experience is a little dated.

Best wishes.

[QUOTE=KynkarX;3000122]The ask is now a minimum of 10 K for a casual coffee / dinner meet with dinner bill additional expense for us. They are picky about being only in Star restaurants for dinner / drinks or suave Restobars / Coffee bars. I can only laugh at the expectations and it is some sort of entitlement for them. Some even have the gall to ask why we can't spend at least this much for casual meets. There are way too many WG in the App and almost everyone immediately responds with TG ID.

I am fairly new to this App and been in the App for about couple of months but been following the forum and this thread and since a few months. Got a paid membership in the App about a week back and still getting used to the ways of the App. This thread has been fairly useful. Chivalry, Optimism, Generosity and Trust are what only men folk should have in the App. The ladies expect that from guys but they don't display it themselves or just purely money minded. Will continue in the app to see if there is a gem hidden there somewhere but a fairly slim chance with all other guys in contention. But atleast this is some good timepass nowadays albeit a costly one at that.[/QUOTE]You shouldn't be paying for a casual coffee / dinner meet. I think it is sacrilege. Girls these days are lazy and look for the easiest way to make money / cheat. The situation where they will be doing the most work is meeting and having sex. Usual ways they will try to get money out is.

1) Request advance / Request loan before meeting.

2) Paid coffee meet and then meet for sex. (They are unlikely to meet for paid sex and will disappear).

3) Request cab fare for a meeting for sex (and then disappear).

IMHO, these are all red flags. If one derives sexual / mental gratification by sitting across a table in a crowded cafe making conversation with an often dimwit WG, then paying may be in order. Most serious girls will attend that casual meet and be happy for the meeting and you footing the bill. Asking for payment for a casual meet is just the girl making some money going on a casual date without having to get into the sack. There are many like that.

There are also guys who will take the girl to the hotel room but not fuck them. Girls love these kind of guys.

As the others have said, SA Bangalore is not really worth it. My SA subscription recently got autorenewed and I didn't notice. It was a waste, I didn't use the subscription to meet anyone.

If you have a steady SB, I suggest you hang on to her. A genuine one is hard to come by these days.

I totally agree here. Last weekend I met a girl for coffee. She travelled from her location to mine and back at her cost for the same, Most genuine girls do that. I have met more than a dozen girls like that and I have only paid for couple of coffee meets because they also had a bad experience with lot of guys doing coffee dates and then blocking or disappear. I paid around 2 k these couple of times that to post having the coffee. The general rule of thumb for a non paid coffee date is you have to travel to the girl.

[QUOTE=FunForSandy;3000262]I would disagree with you.

There are still plenty of girls who are willing to meet without any ask for being paid for a meeting over coffee or dinner.

Recently I met someone in a cafe where my bill was just about 500. Decent girl. Talked to me for more than an hour.

I also came across someone who insisted that I buy her gifts. I passed her. At times I give the girls a small gift if the meeting goes well but I avoid those who insist on a gift or being paid.

As Phil said it's a good way to filter out girls.[/QUOTE]

Another place where you can find hidden gems or newbies is [URL]sugarbabyinida.com[/URL] . However the traffic there is far less than SA, but I have been able to pick up real good ones from there.

[QUOTE=Phil50;3000264]It's been 11 years since I first joined SA and fully agree with your sentiments.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to find the 'hidden gems' on SA. Those that are there spend no more than a month on SA. The people who we'd like to imagine as the ideal SB, have been
replaced by escorts & SPs, college girls who are there because their friends said its easy money. There are also time wasters who take their time to reply and string us along, or platonic / virtual only.
A new category is women who just want to vent at men. Some of the WGs here double their prices because it is SA.

I had some great relationships on SA, but my last good find was two years ago. I had decided to leave SA for good. When I renewed by sub, against my better judgement I found it's only got worse. More working girls, scammers and those with attitude.

I think part of the reason is that we let girls get away with behaviour that will be unacceptable in our professional lives. We will not tolerate a service provider who is habitually late, or cancels without warning, or doubles their rate suddenly or is very rude. Many posts here and in my DM saying 'XYZ girl is not replying/ blocked me' or asking for (GPS amount) what should I do?

Girls get as much for 3-4 hours, as a typical middle class girl with a real job will earn in a month. I don't grudge them that amount, its supply and demand. I do however expect that they will be
polite with no unnecessary nakras and if we aren't interested, no hard feelings.[/QUOTE]

Yes, if you start talking of money that's what everyone will quote. The trick is not to talk of money very soon. For short time you do get good young girls in the average range of 10 K plus minus 2 to 3 K.

You have to look for students, girls from modest background. The older they are the more they charge.

[QUOTE=Punenikhil96;3000106]Are there any available in that range on SA. All that I have spoken to demand atleast 20-25 k.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MBrando;3000580]I totally agree here. Last weekend I met a girl for coffee. She travelled from her location to mine and back at her cost for the same, Most genuine girls do that. I have met more than a dozen girls like that and I have only paid for couple of coffee meets because they also had a bad experience with lot of guys doing coffee dates and then blocking or disappear. I paid around 2 k these couple of times that to post having the coffee. The general rule of thumb for a non paid coffee date is you have to travel to the girl.[/QUOTE]Some of the girls asked me for cab fare which I agreed to and none of them asked for an inflated amount.

The only time I agreed to an advance I was scammed for an absurdly small amount of 1 k!

And believe it or not, I once met a girl and we clicked over lunch. Then we both proceeded to a book store. We both are into reading. And we both ended up buying books for each other. She had travelled a long way and she didn't even ask for cab fare. We later met a few times for intimacy with an allowance. Unfortunately she moved out of Bangalore a few months ago. She was a keeper. And we are still in touch.

[QUOTE=SimplyBad2024;3000570]You shouldn't be paying for a casual coffee / dinner meet. I think it is sacrilege. Girls these days are lazy and look for the easiest way to make money / cheat. The situation where they will be doing the most work is meeting and having sex. Usual ways they will try to get money out is.

1) Request advance / Request loan before meeting.

2) Paid coffee meet and then meet for sex. (They are unlikely to meet for paid sex and will disappear).

3) Request cab fare for a meeting for sex (and then disappear).

IMHO, these are all red flags. If one derives sexual / mental gratification by sitting across a table in a crowded cafe making conversation with an often dimwit WG, then paying may be in order. Most serious girls will attend that casual meet and be happy for the meeting and you footing the bill. Asking for payment for a casual meet is just the girl making some money going on a casual date without having to get into the sack. There are many like that.

There are also guys who will take the girl to the hotel room but not fuck them. Girls love these kind of guys.

As the others have said, SA Bangalore is not really worth it. My SA subscription recently got autorenewed and I didn't notice. It was a waste, I didn't use the subscription to meet anyone.

If you have a steady SB, I suggest you hang on to her. A genuine one is hard to come by these days.[/QUOTE]That last sentence is so important. If one finds a SB of his liking one should take good care of her.

[QUOTE=FunForSandy;3000614]That last sentence is so important. If one finds a SB of his liking one should take good care of her.[/QUOTE]My current relationship has lasted 7 years and ending as she's moving to a new city, so I totally agree that retaining a SB is better than finding new ones.

The last person I met on SA, ghosted after 4 meets, but I remained in touch. She had a genuine problem and went back to her home town. We are back together now.

I do paid casual meets, when we are in a long term relationship and not every meet has to be sexual. Sometimes we check out a new restaurant, or she's had a tough day at work and just wants to chill in my place over drinks. The rate for that would be a third of an intimate date, so I compensate for her time, but she's not taking advantage by getting the full allowance without going all the way.

What a paid casual date implies is that my partner turns heads when we are in public. She looks like my GF rather than a hooker and we can have a stimulating conversation (not easy when she's half my age). Most on SA wouldn't qualify.

I wanted to share some of my experience with newbie. Been on SA 11 years and had coffee dates with 125 girls. 90% of my time has been with 10% of the girls.

The toe dipper. Unsure of SA. She's typically on the site a few days, gets overwhelmed by messages suggesting she's a working girl and either deletes her profile or is inactive.
You will see plenty of profiles which for e.g. are made 1 month ago, but last active 2 weeks ago.

The Lurker: Worse than the toe dipper, because she will surface once in a way, send short messages and then disappear. My guess is their personal life sucks, but they get a kick from seeing dozens of messages in their inbox, from successful men sending repeat messages, or throwing money at them. You will be led on but no meeting will happen. The free membership for women is a cheap way for them to get self esteem.

Try your luck: On SA because her college friend / colleague said its a way to make easy money. 'You get paid to sit with a guy while he has coffee, or some hot guy will pay you a huge.
amount for sex'. They will quote GPS amounts and won't negotiate.

Old & bitter: Older or div women who hate men. An innocent sentence can spark off a sarcastic remark. My view is that if someone is a regular on the site for a year (the type who joined over
a year ago and are always in the 'recently active' list, their attitude to men changes. You are just another dick and they have learnt how to manipulate you.
All my best SA relationships on SA were those on the site for less than a month.

Of course there are the usual types, we often discuss. The scammer (will take advance and disappear), the SP with cheap girls, the girls who do this for a living etc.

Among all these you might find the occasional diamond in the rough, but it's increasingly difficult and for me, no longer worth it.

[I](Posting on SA on suggestion from [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/member.php?618418-FunForSandy]FunForSandy[/url] ) [/I]

(Read only if you are [B]really looking[/B] for GFE. Many people say GFE but just good sex is not GFE. GFE is an experience with sex being just 30-40% (at least in my case) of the whole experience.).

So I connected with a junior member here who was trying to understand how to navigate through. Thought I'd post this in a more organized way for the benefit of others who might be in the same boat. If you're chasing real GFE and not just hourly action, this might help you structure your journey better.

[B]Step 1: Platforms to Start[/B]

- [B]SA[/B] (Seeking) is good starting point.

- SA is worth trying. Take the subscription once, connect with a few girls, and build your pipeline from there.

[B]Step 2: Mindset & Filtering[/B]

- Don't bend to every girl's whim. You are not here to impress blindly. Be a mix of [I]casanova[/I] and gentleman.

- If a girl doesn't tick the boxes during the chat itself walk away. No hesitation.

- It may feel like you're getting nowhere initially, but trust me when the right girl clicks, you'll know. All the rejections before that will feel totally worth it.

[B]Step 3: Go All-In with the Right One[/B]

- Once you find her, [I]repeat[/I]. Real GFE doesn't come in first meet. It's built across 2-3 meetings minimum.

- I personally prefer overnight meets. It gives you time to build the vibe, slow things down, and make it feel real.

[B]Step 4: Set Expectations Early[/B]

- Be honest. Tell her you're looking for a proper connection, not shot counting.

- Saves both your time and hers.

[B]Step 5: Budget Strategy[/B]

- Have a number in mind? Quote [I]75%[/I] of it when negotiating.

- If you settle at 85-90%, perfect. Maybe spend 10-15%to make the experience more memorable.

- Again be firm. Walk if you're not comfortable. Repeats only happen if the deal feels fair and the girl clicks.

[B]Step 6: Red Flags to Watch For[/B]

- If the girl doesn't have 5-10 minutes to chat properly before meeting, skip. If she's rushed online, she'll be rushed in person. [B](No exceptions here.)[/B].

- Girls who send menus and rate cards = No. You're looking for GFE, not hourly service providers.

- Don't go only by looks. If there's no convo or chemistry, it's not worth it long term.

[B]Step 7: Heart vs Head Moments[/B]

- Hardest part? When you [I]like[/I] a girl, but your gut says no.

- Go ahead only when both your heart AND head say yes. Otherwise, walk.

- Yes, there are exceptions I've had mine but trust me, you can bend the rules [I]only[/I] after you've mastered them.

[B]Final Words:[/B]

You're not hunting just for sex you're curating a vibe. A feeling. A repeatable, satisfying arrangement.

And that only happens when [U]both[/U] parties are into it.

Set your standards. Filter hard. Engage deep. The real GFE will come.

I have gone to probably last extent of this and have had unbelievable experiences (and not just one or two, but quite a few) in SA that people might not even believe; I strongly believe that ultimately, you get what you [B]really[/B] look for!!

I would invite other seniors also to share their thoughts / comments / experiences regarding this.

Thanks!!

-Imperialist.

[U][b]Adding successive conversation with FunForSandy[/b] [/U]

[B]MR vs SA What Actually Works for GFE?[/B]

MR is certainly very tough when you're chasing real GFE. You can sometimes find that 3-5 meet kind of [I]artificial GFE[/I] (with [U]extreme[/U] filtering), but the [B]real[/B] GFE the kind where both of you actually click is almost impossible on MR.

That's simply because the girls on MR come in with a completely different mindset. It's largely a [I]menu card[/I] market, transactional and price-driven. The warmth and emotional investment needed for GFE just doesn't exist for most of them.

Now SA that's a whole different story.

SA is definitely a long game. It requires long-term investment, in both [B]money[/B] and [B]time[/B]. But the returns can be huge if you play it right. Not the place for guys who just want a weekend hookup or a one-time fix. This in fact, is changing the meanting of Sugar Arrangements and driving the market in a very different direction. Something the core SA wasn't really built for.

Yes, you [I]can[/I] find good matches on SA, and I've been lucky across all types from quick flings to long-term GFE. But I'll be honest: [U]short-term 'fun' GFE[/U] is super costly on SA, especially because some fellow mongers go all out and drive the prices up in that zone.

If you're smart, selective, and play for repeats that's where SA truly shines.

Some great advice by Imperialist. I could not have put it better and agree with all his points. I've had some great GFE's on SA which have lasted years. What I think works:

A GFE requires us to have common interests, not just her body. My partner whom I've been seeing for 7 years, shares my liking for craft beer, 70's music and checking out new restaurants. We come from similar social backgrounds. If you're seeing each other 50+ times, there's got to be things that attract you other than sex, which is why no more than half our dates are sexual. Staff in the better hotels can tell if the lady checking in with you, is your spouse, GF, or a hooker and treat her accordingly. That comes from their body language.

There has to be some give and take in a long term relationship. I've broken up with my partner of 7 years, 4 times and she once. My partner in a another city meets me only for a holiday together, that we jointly plan, or once a year when visit her city.

In a long term relationship, you have to mean something more to her than allowance. I am not looking to be the highest bidder for her body, though I won't substitute allowance by some BS like.
'I will be a mentor'. If you can genuinely provide something she needs that money can't buy, that really helps.

Find out what she is looking for. If someone needs quick money fast, that's not going to be a GFE. It is impossible to control who your partner sees, but if for e. G. She has a full time job and can only meet once a week and you are able to meet her financial needs, she will not be inclined to see others or have a reason to continue to be on SA.
My partner's expenditure slightly exceeds her salary and seeing me couple of times a month, even if one meet is non sexual, meets our needs.
My older travel partner does not need money, but we both enjoy trips which give us memories of a lifetime, that she could not afford herself.

We mongers are in it for different reasons too. Let's not judge each other.