Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2218715]Many girls on DIA put a large city on their profile but when asked they say they are actually out in some province. Usually a 2-4 hour drive or bus ride to get to me. And, of course, they have no money for even bus and no one will lend them money so they ask me for 1-2000 php to get a ride, which they ask be sent to them by Western Union. .......[/QUOTE]They lied about where they are.

The lied about what the bus fare is, 1000 to 2000 will take you a long way by bus in this country, not just a 2 to 4 hour trip.

Why trust them with the fare?

To be fair, sometimes a Jeepney or bike or trike is needed if they are way outside. And it is a trip most visitors would not want to take.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2219273]If they are asking 1000 or even 2000 PhP for the bus then they must be living far far away. To give you an idea: from Manila (Makati) to Angeles takes about 3 hours, depending on traffic, but a ticket is only 150 PhP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2219283]They lied about where they are.

The lied about what the bus fare is, 1000 to 2000 will take you a long way by bus in this country, not just a 2 to 4 hour trip.

Why trust them with the fare?[/QUOTE]Concur. In addition to that, I'm roughly aware of bus / tryke fares (similar everywhere). I tell them that for a first meeting that they must come up with fare to see me, and that I will reimburse (use the word 'give') a reasonable amount for fare (+ foods if its more than about 3 hours) when I meet them, then the same amount upon her leaving. As an example, non-aircon bus from Pampanga is about a 2. 5 hour bus ride and p200 (or less), as per the accounts here of gents taking a bus. Throw in a tryke and a jeep to the bus, you are talking p250. Girls will often mention much larger amounts, asking you for taxi fare (even if you send the taxi amount, she will tryke / bus and pocket the difference).

Recently a girl made a 7-hour bus ride to see me (she's a regular, DON'T do this with a first-time girl, she's not worth it in any circumstance) for a few days. Bus fare each way is 400, and throw in 250 for foods (the bus stops at a resto along the way; a plate of adobo / rice + juice is under p200; as is a McDo value meal). Add in 50 for tryke / jeep to get to the bus from her house, and you have 700 as the trip money. I have made this same trip to a nearby province to see her (and her friends, pictured in the PG), and she's made the trip to see me many times, so I know the amounts, and she's fine with that. However, she would probably ask a newb for 2000 for fare each way.

Also avoid girls who insists on taking a taxi or aircon bus (luxuries). Last month in Cebu, one of my long-time girls (normally takes 2 jeeps to get to me, 20 minutes in clear traffic and 50 minutes in heavy traffic) suddenly asked in txt on her way to me for taxi fare. "When I'm there in taxi you can pay the driver my fare". You MUST be kidding sweetie! She repeated the request, more insistent. No, thanks sweetie, stay home. An hour later the door guard called the room: "Sir, miss Jennylyn is here". Ya, send her up. In the morning she was fine for the usual amount, which included p30 for round-trip jeeps (p7+7 +7+7). She was so offended by the taxi refusal that she returned twice more in a week, and asked for even more nights.

Another thought: Stop chatting girls who are more than an hour outside Manila. What is the need? So many willing girls actually IN the city.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2219809]Thanks Natty. You are right. The days when young hot girls would suck shriveled cocks all night for 1000 pesos are long gone. But if you have the dough and are willing to spend, you can get a good experience. Plenty of hot chicks around.[/QUOTE]That is just depressing for 99% of mongers. LOL! The sole appeal of Angeles City was that pensioners and working class sex tourists could get hot girls to suck their old shriveled cocks all night long for 1,000 pesos. That Angeles City is dead. What remains is something else that is less GFE at higher price.

That is why mongers cry about the demise of "the old Angeles City" because gone are the days of giving hot girls multiple cream pies for a song. The rich man does not have to go to AC to get his old shriveled cock sucked all night by hot models. The wealthy with unlimited funds do not need places like AC but the pensioner and the working poor do.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2219895]That is just depressing for 99% of mongers. LOL! The sole appeal of Angeles City was that pensioners and working class sex tourists could get hot girls to suck their old shriveled cocks all night long for 1,000 pesos. That Angeles City is dead. What remains is something else that is less GFE at higher price.

That is why mongers cry about the demise of "the old Angeles City" because gone are the days of giving hot girls multiple cream pies for a song. The rich man does not have to go to AC to get his old shriveled cock sucked all night by hot models. The wealthy with unlimited funds do not need places like AC but the pensioner and the working poor do.[/QUOTE]This is why I am considering taking sand to the beach on my next visit to AC. Why go to AC? I like the festival atmosphere, do not feel foreigner, can dance the night away with my grand daughters without blinking an eye, can live my younger days etc. Only pussy costs more but not the hotel, food, entertainment. I love the legitimate massage parlors run by Koreans who do a nice job cheap and clean.

I am talking with some normal girls whom I need to convince to come and stay with me. This way I do not need to deal with stuck ups, service dissatisfaction, runners, scams etc. Love to sit nursing my drink in a bar watching all the drama happening around me without the pressure of lady drinks, pressure to select a girl for barfine if I already have a good looking girl beside me. I have done this couple of times before. Did the girls like it? Hard to say. It is their first time seeing a set up like this. Sure they have heard about it but never experienced. They never believed a girl can be dancing on stage for 10 hours and go with a different person every night.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2219895]That is just depressing for 99% of mongers. LOL! The sole appeal of Angeles City was that pensioners and working class sex tourists could get hot girls to suck their old shriveled cocks all night long for 1,000 pesos. That Angeles City is dead. What remains is something else that is less GFE at higher price.

That is why mongers cry about the demise of "the old Angeles City" because gone are the days of giving hot girls multiple cream pies for a song. The rich man does not have to go to AC to get his old shriveled cock sucked all night by hot models. The wealthy with unlimited funds do not need places like AC but the pensioner and the working poor do.[/QUOTE]No tears here, CM. I must be in the 1%. Anyway, in the 80's if you were young, buff and military like me you didn't even have to pay for it, well maybe $10, and it was mmmmmmmmmmm good then as it is now.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2220136]This is why I am considering taking sand to the beach on my next visit to AC. Why go to AC? I like the festival atmosphere, do not feel foreigner, can dance the night away with my grand daughters without blinking an eye, can live my younger days etc. Only pussy costs more but not the hotel, food, entertainment. I love the legitimate massage parlors run by Koreans who do a nice job cheap and clean.

I am talking with some normal girls whom I need to convince to come and stay with me. This way I do not need to deal with stuck ups, service dissatisfaction, runners, scams etc. Love to sit nursing my drink in a bar watching all the drama happening around me without the pressure of lady drinks, pressure to select a girl for barfine if I already have a good looking girl beside me. I have done this couple of times before. Did the girls like it? Hard to say. It is their first time seeing a set up like this. Sure they have heard about it but never experienced. They never believed a girl can be dancing on stage for 10 hours and go with a different person every night.[/QUOTE]BYOB sounds like a good strategy. Many girls from Manila and other cities are eager to accompany fellas to Angeles City to see if the rumors of it being the most sinful city in the Philippines are true. You certainly will not be the first to go that route.

When you take a traveling companion along with you to see all the sordid activities in progress in AC, she puts her pussy to work twice as hard once she sees at the competition doing their best to get a piece of your wallet. LOL!

Hotel, food, and entertainment prices remain the same but pussy prices rise because the 333 Club only collects bragging points for overpaying on pussy, while bargaining hard on the other stuff. LOL! The 333 guys compete with each other to pay more for the same pussy and the market reflects this pricing structure.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2219117]I do not get it. Why worry about chicks that are not where you are or do not plan to be? Nobody goes to Rio and starts worrying about chicks in Sao Paulo. Not like there is a scarcity of chicks in Manila. Just work out of that basket. Then you send all that money and wait all that time and the chick gets there and is not what you imagined and you are stuck with her for a few days. Wonk Wonk.[/QUOTE]That is the best approach if you are stationed in Rio or Sao Paulo. Or Manila, AC or Cebu. But here in the province (bundok), sometimes a promising internet cutie is a bus plus ferry ride away. In that case, my experience suggests never going to meet her myself. If you want to see the place, okay--have a lineup of 3 or 4 to meet. A girl might get her "kilig" (her jollies) just by having a foreigner come to visit. I have never found a keeper by going to meet. Girls coming to my place to meet me, the success rate is about 50%. And some of them are very, very good. There are advantages to having someone from another island. She is not worried about being seen with by whoever, and she has no friends or relatives to tag along or distract her. If she has family or friends already on your island, absolutely do not send her travel money. If her family wants her to visit, they will provide.

Afterthought: with some ferry companies, as with airlines, you can pay for the ticket at your end, with instructions to refund only to you.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2218636]Here is to you the Cup.

Still in talking stage, maybe fake profile. She insists she is real. Unusual for a philippina. If true hoping will not suffocate and die LOL.[/QUOTE]Of course you must validate with Skype or other visual conversation.

[QUOTE=Cbea20;2220293]That is the best approach if you are stationed in Rio or Sao Paulo. Or Manila, AC or Cebu. But here in the province (bundok), sometimes a promising internet cutie is a bus plus ferry ride away. In that case, my experience suggests never going to meet her myself. If you want to see the place, okay--have a lineup of 3 or 4 to meet. A girl might get her "kilig" (her jollies) just by having a foreigner come to visit. I have never found a keeper by going to meet. Girls coming to my place to meet me, the success rate is about 50%. And some of them are very, very good. There are advantages to having someone from another island. She is not worried about being seen with by whoever, and she has no friends or relatives to tag along or distract her. If she has family or friends already on your island, absolutely do not send her travel money. If her family wants her to visit, they will provide.

Afterthought: with some ferry companies, as with airlines, you can pay for the ticket at your end, with instructions to refund only to you.[/QUOTE]What happens when she takes a combined 7-hour bus and ferry ride to come meet you and she is a real woofer? Do you just break out two paper bags and fuck her anyway? It would be a real dick move to hand her return fare and reimbursement at the door. You would at least have to put her up for the night, as it would be too late to send her back after such an exhausting journey. In that case, you may as well just fuck her with the lights off. LOL! You are going to pay anyway, and you cannot use the room to screw other girls for the night.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2218379]That will leave me with a call centre girl, lives and works close and likes to come over at 6 AM, a student with some of the best oral skills I've seen and a shop girl who likes to bring a friend once in a while.

All were Tinder or Pinalove finds.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your roster considerations. It's amazing how the system works and over a short time I assume those empty slots will be filled again, there will be another cull and the overall quality of your herd will further improve.

I also have 2-3 regulars whom I am happy with. Just don't want hassles sometimes. Then I always need to have some crazy diversity for no reason.

BD.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2219895]The rich man does not have to go to AC to get his old shriveled cock sucked all night by hot models. The wealthy with unlimited funds do not need places like AC but the pensioner and the working poor do.[/QUOTE]Are you certain rich men do not go to AC to get laid? At the time I was in AC (around mid-August), ABC Hotel was full and LGH had just a few smoking rooms left. Now surely, these rooms are not being occupied by pensioners, are they?

Also, we often talk about the 333 brigade throwing money around. FYI I noticed there were quite a few westerners too who participated in the mindless act of "making it rain" at clubs like Atlantis, Ra and even Lancelot. Hell, there were some 60+ westerners doing the rain thing at a Perimeter bar like Det5. Imagine.

BTW the new Lancelot absolutely sucks. The format, the decor, the girls, the manager. Depressing.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2220612]Whose definition of "rich" are we using?

Mongers would look at how much another guy HAS: nice car, house, income, bank account etc.

Girls look for how much a guy is SPENDING and do not care about the above definition.

That's why there are so many guys in AC who are "rich" for two weeks and why they are so popular.[/QUOTE]LMAO.

As a monger I only look at girls. Their face, their tits, their skin tone, and where possible, their pussy.

As a rule, the guy who is in a mongering destination for a short holiday will always spend more than the average Joe who resides there, even if he is hunting bargain BJs down blow row from toothless grannies. No brain surgery here.

I read back a few pages about rich and poor mongers in Angeles. Jackson, who owned this site, did visit Bangkok and stayed in Nana, evidence that rich mongers exist and they stay in monger hotels. I don't really get the uber rich, visiting Las Vegas and similar places and flushing $$ away. Americans explained to me why they prefer the glamour of Vegas to some cheap Indian reservation that also has the same basic amenities.

In Angeles and similar places, I want cheap women I can bonk without taking a serious financial hit. I could bonk hookers in Europe at the same rate but go broke at a much quicker rate.

In somewhere like Angeles, I also want to go around dressed down and for the woman to know I pay so she performs. I also do not want to be magnet for muggers and nor do I want to be somewhere where getting mugged is par for the course.

Angeles has the advantage of tonnes of pussy but its tourist reputation does put up the price. Smaller places have plenty of women but less to do besides jerking off into them. My ideal place would be moderately priced, plentiful women but not too mercenary regarding clock watching and Pampanga's other stunts. To get that place involves a lot more homework and down time.

Does anyone know why Cebu has its own forum here and is not in the main Philippine one?

It does not appear to be getting much action and I think that it should be merged into the main Philippine one. It is kind of hard to find unless you know where to look for it as it doesn't show up in all the lists.

Anyone support that idea? Anyone oppose?

We can take the pulse of the members here and ask Jackson to make changes if that is the group consensus.

For anyone who does not know how to find it, go to the top of the page showing the path and click on Asia, scroll down to the detailed list and you will see The Philippines, The Philippines Cebu and finally the Philippines Dragon Slayer which has not had a post in a couple of years.