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[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2358075]So I'm back home from my trip and I just wanted to clear up some things. I'll start with the objective facts:
I stayed for 3 nights, Thurs-Saturday. From working the numbers, the bar girls are not worth it. They typically fuck you for 15 minutes total. The rest of the time is spent walking around your room, using your shower, and getting dressed. The girls factor in their "prep" time after having sex into your 30 minutes of time. So basically, they spend 10 minutes just showering, getting dressed, and leaving, and taking it off the top of your time. This is the default for most of the girls there.
Now for my thoughts on this: again, as a customer you should never have to stand up for yourself. This is my opinion, but when you hold the dollars, you should be getting exactly what you want. You shouldn't have to negotiate further. It's a simple transaction: here's the money, now deliver me the quality service. If you don't get the quality service, then the girl is a piece of shit and you shouldn't see her again. The problem is almost all the bar girls give shit service. They've been conditioned to do so. They don't care about customer service as another user mentioned. The system is set up to extract as much money from stupid gringos as possible because a ton cycle through Hong Kong every weekend. It's very profitable for Hong Kong and the girls, and not a great service for you, the customer..[/QUOTE]You went on the busiest days bro, it's been said several times on here if you want GFE your going to have a hard time finding it in HK on the weekends. Just curious, how many bargirls were you with over your trip?
Don't forget, regardless of them being sex workers, they are still women LOL. YMMV.
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Yep. HK girls are really tough sharks. Most would play all kinds of tricks against you to make the most money doing the least work. They would milk you dry before granting you any close friendship. A few of my wingmen went dead broke with their favorite HK girls. They no longer remember who they were. I would only do the young and most attractive girls in HK, and they usually give me low local rates because they see me in HK often. A lot of average-looking new girls in HK think they can make $100 sessions. They make me laugh. I would let them go home hungry hehe.
Many street girls are as hot as bar girls. I like to see girls dress tastefully in street clothing like real, normal people to tattooed girls in slutty bikinis in the bar. A few street girls cannot work in HK due to the drinking and cigarette smoke.
Street girls' rates are so low that you can easily try many in bed and find those who will provide honest, sexy sessions. After a few repeats, you can develop rapports with the girls and most would treat you with friendly and sexy attitudes.
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[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2358124]You actually got a Hong Kong chica to go in the shower before having sex?
Good for you![/QUOTE]Literally laughed out loud at this comment so true.
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I missed my opportunity to post about a similar topic recently so here I get a second chance. When I negotiate with street girls by giving them a rundown of what I want some of them stop me and say that I want full service. That can be a problem because if a chica sets her full service price at 500 pesos she might not shave off anything from her price. Maybe it's just me but I see red flags when a chica is unwilling to work with me downstairs. Unless she's offering me stuff other chicas aren't willing to offer.
It goes without saying that I negotiate differently with any given chicas. So here's where I go back and forth on the how much question. It's better to lead in the dance. So you mine as well throw a number. On the flip side there's chicas that no matter what you ask for her price is 200 or 300 pesos. So you could end up overpaying if 300 pesos is your offer or end up giving her what she wanted. A conversation for another day is that chicas in La Zona don't agree on pussy price.
What I want to bring up is that we post on these sites because we want to collude against chicas. But what about those times when we feel we won. Back when I used to report about going up with bargirls at AB for say $40 or anything under $60 should I have reported that? I recently got word that AB has been firing chicas for charging mongers less than $60. I think this may be true because I haven't seen a chica that supposedly got fired cause of this. I can think of another chica that charged me $40 that's not there anymore. That was some time ago though. Another chica told me to keep my mouth shut. And she charged me less than $40. I don't know if this is a thing but sounds about true. If it's happening we don't need to post on these boards to get them in trouble cause there could be a scenario where we can low ball three chicas. The third one accepts the offer and the other two turn on her. So I'm interested to hear about any thoughts on this.
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[QUOTE=GoodQuestions;2358249]should I have reported that? I recently got word that AB has been firing chicas for charging mongers less than $60. I think this may be true because I haven't seen a chica that supposedly got fired cause of this. I can think of another chica that charged me $40 that's not there anymore. That was some time ago though. Another chica told me to keep my mouth shut. And she charged me less than $40. I don't know if this is a thing but sounds about true. If it's happening we don't need to post on these boards to get them in trouble cause there could be a scenario where we can low ball three chicas. The third one accepts the offer and the other two turn on her. So I'm interested to hear about any thoughts on this.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to your base question about whether we should report good deals with chica stage names on this cite. Despite rumors, I don't know who in bar management reads these monger cites. I often report my deals with street girls and walkers, who have much less direct supervision.
Whenever I'm negotiating pesos with a street girl, I do it in whispers in her ear so her wallmates can't hear. And when it comes to sex acts sin condom, that discussion always happens up in my room and never on the sidewalk.
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Screw Hong Kong
I used to frequent clip joints in La Coahuila. The bullshit hustle, including the asshole at the entrance charging you 7 dollars for a beer to get in, the girls trying to milk you out of every dime thinking they are the goddesses of this world, the pushy waiters. This shit gets too old. I suggest changing things up and going out to Las Pulgas or some of the other clubs in Tijuana. I meet a variety of non-putas. Either those working in a factory or many that are wealthy. My experiences with these girls is that they are very friendly and appreciative. It is so refreshing to be away from that shitty HK scene. Many of you know what I mean. You've just gotten tired of the money grabbing pay me for my time bitches and scene.
I had a girl in HK take 80 dollars of mine and the knock on the door came in 13 minutes. And then she had the nerve to ask for a propina. Fuck this place. Everybody should boycott Hong Kong and put these narcissistic women and their thieving owners and Managers out of business.
This girl that I paid 80 dollars for with a 13 minutes knock on the door. I got pissed at her and called her a thief and pendeja. Her reply was "You're the stupid one, paying 8.00 a drink all night for women that you think really like you. They don't give a shit about you. And you are a loser for paying women to have sex.
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Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?
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[QUOTE=Necropet;2358424]Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?[/QUOTE]HK bar is filled with people smoking inside. Many of the chica's smoke.
If you are annoyed by smoke, you likely will not enjoy being inside of Hong Kong Bar.
The hotel above HK bar is called Cascades. On Cascades' website, they advertise that some of their hotel rooms are non-smoking rooms.
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[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2358332]Her reply was "You're the stupid one, paying 8.00 a drink all night for women that you think really like you. They don't give a shit about you. And you are a loser for paying women to have sex.[/QUOTE]Daaam, that hurts, not sure how I would've responded to that. LMAO!
[QUOTE=Necropet;2358424]Hey,
I'm going there for the first time during Halloween. Any advice? Oh, and I'm a non-smoker. Is HK a non-smoking bar? Also, do the majority of the putas smoke (gross)?[/QUOTE]No, lot's of cig smoke in the air. A good majority of the girls smoke cigs / mota.
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Two bring two girls up is the price of the room the same? For an hour is the price of the room still the same compared to 30 minutes?
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Eh cut the guy a break. The premise of what he's saying is not untrue. The service at HK is horrendous, borderline criminal at times, that's not breaking any new news. Most of these girls are in clip joint mode and have very little social skills. But I think everyone's POV is right. If you try hard enough you can find a GFE girl that will rock your world. That possibility is there, heck there's gems in any bar and any agency. You just have to follow the scent and seek them out. But not everyone is a regular that goes weekly or monthly and has the time to put in. I personally don't care for sessions at HK anymore for reasons that were mentioned, but it's an amazing place to drink and get a buzz. Maybe the best bar in the world.
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[QUOTE=Klaflare;2358602]Two bring two girls up is the price of the room the same? For an hour is the price of the room still the same compared to 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]You pay double for the room if you bring up two girls.
For one girl, a full hour is $15 more. For an hour for two or more girls, I will need to use my calculator; math is hard!
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Looking to go on Friday but during the daytime. Comparatively speaking will the talent still be top tier?
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[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2358265]I can't speak to your base question about whether we should report good deals with chica stage names on this cite. Despite rumors, I don't know who in bar management reads these monger cites. I often report my deals with street girls and walkers, who have much less direct supervision.
Whenever I'm negotiating pesos with a street girl, I do it in whispers in her ear so her wallmates can't hear. And when it comes to sex acts sin condom, that discussion always happens up in my room and never on the sidewalk.[/QUOTE]Yeah I thought this wouldn't apply to street girls because they give good deals and a lot of them are still around. I'the like to think that management leaves the heavy lifting to the chicas to come to these sites and read up on any chicas offering mongers deals they can't refuse. But in all seriousness they most likely need to be caught in the act.
I've had chicas stare at me in approval of what I'm asking but paranoid her friends will hear. In a recent start a chica said we should move over so some guys wouldn't hear. I don't think they were connected to her but she didn't want anyone listening. I think it was earlier this year where a chica told me up in the room that she'the do BBBJ for a little more. The one thing I didn't like about this is I thought about it for a bit. I didn't have my own room so the time was ticking. I went for it but I don't like burning time.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2358155]Yep. HK girls are really tough sharks. Most would play all kinds of tricks against you to make the most money doing the least work. They would milk you dry before granting you any close friendship. A few of my wingmen went dead broke with their favorite HK girls. They no longer remember who they were.[/QUOTE]This is why I'm not in any danger of getting into a romantic relationship with working chicas. I think the key is I don't spend a lot of money on them so they don't pretend they love me.